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Microsoft releases its quarterly financial report and gives itself a pat on the back

Microsoft released a glowing analysis of its Q2 results earlier yesterday.  The report focused heavily on strong sales and takes a rather self-congratulatory tone, which may sound eerily familiar to some recent Macworld attendees.

Microsoft describes sales as "robust" leading to revenue increasing to $16.37 billion, a 30% growth.  However, the large increase in revenue Microsoft acknowledges is due in part to $1.64 billion in deferred revenue from the second to third fiscal quarter of 2007.  Without the deferral the revenue increase would be a more modest, but still respectable, 15% increase.

Despite somewhat sour opinions of the operating system around the Internet, Microsoft's Windows Vista is clearly not hurting for sales.  A total of 100 million Windows Vista licenses have been sold.  Exactly where this places Windows Vista when compared to competitor Apple's OS X is unknown.  According to Apple, 2 million copies of Leopard were sold in the first week, roughly matching Vista's initial sales pace by some estimates. 

Kevin Johnson, president of the Platforms and Services Division at Microsoft, expressed happiness with Vista, stating, "We are pleased with the progress of Windows Vista in the market.  We’ve hit our stride with partners and customers and are looking forward to the release of our first service pack later this quarter."

Microsoft also pointed in the report to the positive progress in its Zune business, including the release of new flash based iPod shuffle/nano competitors, though it declined to list specific sales figures.  Microsoft also reported that the total number of Xbox 360s jumped to 17.7 million worldwide, up 70% from the previous year.

Microsoft recently faced rough PR and legal times, as it is under investigation again by the EU after already surrendering one major fine.  Further, new reports allege that Microsoft skipped quality testing and knowingly released defective Xbox 360 hardware to beat Sony to launch.



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Humor
By TomZ on 1/25/2008 2:37:43 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
A total of 100 million Windows Vista licenses have been sold. Exactly where this places Windows Vista when compared to competitor Apple's OS X is unknown.

That's funny, Jason - you seem to imply their sales could possibly be roughly comparable. LOL.




RE: Humor
By MatthiasF on 1/25/2008 2:52:41 PM , Rating: 5
According to figures from MacWorld, there have been more copies of Vista sold than there are copies of Mac OS X in the wild.

Source:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/01/macworld-mac...

quote:

Since its release at the end of October, the OS has sold five million copies, which means that 20% of Mac users are using it.


Five million at twenty percent equates to 25 million total Macs with OS X.

Vista sold 100 million copies so far and most of us haven't even bothered to touch it yet.

I think that's pretty impressive for an operating system that's such a huge pain in the ass.


RE: Humor
By Griswold on 1/25/2008 3:14:25 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
I think that's pretty impressive for an operating system that is claimed to be a huge pain in the ass.


There, I corrected it for you.


RE: Humor
By Samus on 1/25/2008 6:26:13 PM , Rating: 3
haha. i agree wholeheartedly


RE: Humor
By Mitch101 on 1/25/2008 3:18:16 PM , Rating: 3
Lately Vista has been very good to me. SP1 should make it the way it should have been released.

Graphics performance is still not on par with XP but if you disable the DX10 components its close if not faster in some games on Vista. The problem is you need a $230.00+ video card to be happy with Vista and gaming otherwise you will just complain about Vista being slow in gaming. When they make the Sub $100.00 video card then Vista will be where its at.

Its a learning curve but I am adopting Vista finally.


RE: Humor
By othercents on 1/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: Humor
By Griswold on 1/25/2008 4:09:03 PM , Rating: 5
Sometimes the problem does indeed sit in front of the keyboard, though.


RE: Humor
By Mitch101 on 1/25/2008 4:11:53 PM , Rating: 5
PEBCAK
Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard


RE: Humor
By Oroka on 1/25/2008 4:26:21 PM , Rating: 3
PEBCAK

*added to personal vocabulary


RE: Humor
By diablofish on 1/26/2008 2:38:35 PM , Rating: 3
I also use PICNIC:

Problem in Chair, Not in Computer


RE: Humor
By Aloonatic on 1/28/2008 5:46:36 AM , Rating: 2
You guys are so funny, legends in your own comments.

The truth is, there are a lot of problems with Vista, hence the constant updates and the need for a service pack after only a year.

The same was true of XP of course (I couldn't tell you when sp1 came out for Xp tho) but I'm sure you have never had any problems with that either as you mere presence in front of a machine can make it work without any problems.

I don't know why so many people get so defensive when someone makes a reasonable comment about the shortcomings of Vista???

Vista is having problems but they are not all necessarily of MS's making. Driver support and such is still a problem.

Can we not all stop these silly "I'm so amazing" comments and admit that Vista isn't perfect either?

No OS is!

There are problems with Vista, even if they are simply where icons are placed and the look of file explorer etc, so the question is; are they really worth it to the average consumer?


RE: Humor
By Oroka on 1/25/2008 4:25:14 PM , Rating: 4
Some people just dont like Vista because it is not XP. Alot of the buggy talk still floating around is from the betas. Only copy of Vista I have ever removed was Vista Beta 1 from my system. It just wasnt stable enough. I have been using Vista on my main rig and lappy since Beta 2. Once RTM was out, 9/10 of my issues with Vista dissappeared, the rest have been rectified with new software releases by the respective software makers.

Why do I have a higher success rate than others seem to have... I dont install Vista on a system that is barely able to meet min system requirements. On a newer computer with 2GB RAM and a medicore Videocard, Vista is a champ. My brother got a free computer from somewhere with Vista Home Basic on it, ran like shit. Quick check... oh, it only has 512MB DDR2. $30 2GB DDR2 kit... he hasnt complained since. If you have a decent system and dont count every FPS is your games... Vista is the best route.

I have installed Vista on... about 18 systems that I built and sold (Basic, Home Pre, and Ultimate), and not a single person has complained to me about Vista specifically.

Vista is not perfect, and XP is certainly not perfect. XP SP2 and SP3 should not even be called 'XP'. Other than a common interface, it is largly a new beast since way back in 2001.

If Vista wasnt around, people would still be bitching about XP. Wait for Win7/Vienna, that will be a much better M$ OS.


RE: Humor
By Locutus465 on 1/25/2008 4:44:10 PM , Rating: 2
Seconding just about everything you wrote... Heck, I just bought an HP Pavillion dv6609wm laptop with the following configuration:

Athlon 64 X2 (1.8GHz)
1GB Ram preconfigured (upgraded to 2)
160GB 5400RPM sata drive
GForcego 7150M (no integrated memory, shares main system memory).

I wouldn't game on this rig, but it's taking over my main development machine duties with SQL Server 2005 and VS.Net 2005 installed and the only complaint is a slow initial boot because of the extra resources taken by SQL Server, other than that the system runs like a champ.


RE: Humor
By Staples on 1/25/2008 5:13:57 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with most of what you say. Most of the negativity is without a doubt heresay. Well if you hear it on the internets, it must be true. And then everyone goes around repeating it. I love asking these guys what problems they have had to justify their comments and you would be surprised, most of them have no response because they have never actually used the OS.

I have been running Vista since Feb. It did have some stability problems back then in the fact that it couldn't stay up more than a afew days without being rebooted however now it works rather well. The NVIDIA drivers were not so good then either but since Sep, they are now comprable to XP.


RE: Humor
By wordsworm on 1/25/2008 8:29:28 PM , Rating: 2
Did you mean heresy or hearsay?

Vista Home Basic is a joke. Can you imagine choking a computer at 1GB of memory when you need that just to slowly chug along? You have to upgrade it just to be able to use a decent computer that can run it. Getting Vista 32 with 4GB of RAM isn't exactly the smartest thing to do either. Vista 64 is much better, as long as you're careful to make sure you have compatible peripherals and hardware, there's no reason to hobble your computer with 32 bit software.

I can't imagine why anyone would disable DX10. That's one of the biggest reasons for moving forward with the new OS. My 64 bit rig can run 32 bit 3dmark06 at 10k+, which is enough for most games.


RE: Humor
By Hydrofirex on 1/25/2008 7:58:56 PM , Rating: 2
I would never go back. I use XP and I cringe. It's so annoying the way it detects hardware - are you telling me I can't search through the start menu - where are my gadgets?! Nothing is wrong with Vista, it's just a bunch of little improvements that make it drastically superior to XP. I haven't had to fight Vista once to get it to do what I want - but XP was always a battle.

I chalk this one up to expectations. It's like when you hype the hell out of a perfectly good movie which is then ruined because it could never really be as good as you would like. And, this is actually mostly Microsoft's fault for stripping it of all the really compelling features. Hell, they even drew out the X64 transition by backing out of only offering it that way.

HfX


RE: Humor
By Locutus465 on 1/25/2008 4:38:29 PM , Rating: 2
My Geforce 7800GT only hurts with Crysis, other than that everything is about as playable as it was in XP. This wasn't the case initially, but it seems that nvidia is finally on the ball with drivers. Now if only if they would bother to update the nforce 4 sli (amd) drivers.


demand?
By headbox on 1/25/2008 2:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
I think Vista's "success" has to do with strong computer sales where it is the standard OS included with PCs. I doubt off the shelf sales are impressive.




RE: demand?
By maven81 on 1/25/2008 3:07:42 PM , Rating: 2
You'd be surprised... the best buy next to my house was sold out. Granted I don't know what their initial stock was, but I was still very surprised... If you believe the (anti) hype no one is dumb enough to be shelling out for the ultimate package...

I actually went out and bought the 64 bit upgrade, and aside from the UAC crap it works rather well. Not sure what all the complaining is about.


RE: demand?
By Spivonious on 1/25/2008 3:15:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Not sure what all the complaining is about.


Totally agree with you. Vista (64-bit Home Premium) has been rock solid since I installed it a month ago. Even the UAC has died down, and what's an extra click anyway?


RE: demand?
By phattyboombatty on 1/25/2008 3:42:17 PM , Rating: 3
Same here. I've had Vista since last April with no problems at all. Not a single lock-up, unintended reboot, or BSOD since I started using it. The OS runs as smooth as silk and feels fast and responsive. I've always wondered whether the legions of Vista haters have actually used the OS, or whether they are just a bunch of lemmings repeating what they've heard from someone else.

When I installed Vista, I did a duel boot with XP because of all of the bad publicitly involving Vista. I was fully expecting to have to fall back on XP repeatedly, but I haven't used XP since I installed Vista.

Also, I don't mind the UAC. When I'm installing a new program and I get the prompts, it just reminds me that my OS is doing its job and keeping my PC secure.


RE: demand?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/25/2008 3:56:03 PM , Rating: 2
Ultimate 64 for over a year now, with no problems. I've switched over to it at work as I'm one of the pilot testers, so far no problems here either.

P.S. Lotus Notes sucks. Can't believe IBM sells this thing.


RE: demand?
By EntreHoras on 1/25/2008 4:29:17 PM , Rating: 2
Why the rant on Lotus Notes?
I agree with you, but why you mention it?


RE: demand?
By onwisconsin on 1/25/2008 4:09:26 PM , Rating: 2
Amen...Vista Home Premium x64 here. No problems whatsoever. Although I disabled the UAC...no use for me on a home computer


RE: demand?
By ChronoReverse on 1/25/2008 4:21:11 PM , Rating: 2
Same here. I dual booted XP and Vista 32 for a bit until I realized that I never go into XP. A couple months back, I tried the same with Vista 64 and Vista 32 and I've found that I have yet to find a reason to boot back into Vista 32.


RE: demand?
By schnazzer on 1/25/2008 4:26:37 PM , Rating: 2
I have Ultimate 64, and besides iTunes not working (just released the 64 bit version for iPhone) and Cisco vpn client, I've had no other problems. Cisco, I understand is not going to make the client compatible with 64bit vista and so I'll have to use AnyConnect.


RE: demand?
By anotherdude on 1/25/2008 7:40:55 PM , Rating: 2
Ditto here.
Vista 64 ultimate, core 2 duo @3.4 ghz., 6 gig RAM, 8800 GTS(640)
Love it. Not slow or buggy and I run a lot of apps. and games. Not too bad on my laptop either, which has a dual core Athlon and 2 gig ram.

Something odd is going on with all this vista bashing. I guess the tech writers need something to squawk about. They love to have a 'winner' (Leopard or even XP) and a 'loser' (Vista).

Dvorak goes on and on about how bad vista is and has even started a 'vista death watch' and he freely admits he's never used it!

Ed Bott has an interesting take on who's getting Vista and who's choosing XP. According to the Dell figures home users are choosing Vista and corporate are choosing XP. Corporate historically has been slow to change. Little incentive really, since XP works and they would need to go through a lot of trauma and expense to switch - lots of PCs out there still running 512 RAM, or less! No point putting Vista on them


RE: demand?
By DingieM on 1/28/08, Rating: 0
Statistically Speaking...
By AstroCreep on 1/25/2008 3:54:49 PM , Rating: 2
...someone must be please with Vista.
Why not be Microsoft that's pleased? :p




RE: Statistically Speaking...
By Denigrate on 1/25/2008 4:00:19 PM , Rating: 2
I've been pleased with Vista, but then I had low expectations. My low expectations were exceeded, so I'm happy. I apply the same thing to movies, expecting them all to suck, so that when they are mediocre I'm pleasantly surprised.


RE: Statistically Speaking...
By wien on 1/25/2008 6:50:51 PM , Rating: 2
That doesn't change the fact that you just had a mediocre experience at the theatre. :) "Could have been worse" just isn't good enough for me.


Somewhat bittersweet
By Puddyglum1 on 1/25/2008 3:04:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Despite somewhat sour opinions of the operating system around the Internet...
Bother... rephrase this as "some sour opinions" or "bittersweet reception". You've just generalized all opinions of Vista on the Internet.




RE: Somewhat bittersweet
By Aloonatic on 1/28/2008 5:50:21 AM , Rating: 2
You mean everything I read on the internet isn't fact?

Good Lord *faints*


Am I just thick headed?
By NullSubroutine on 1/26/2008 7:59:50 AM , Rating: 2
I am giving no opinion on Vista but even though Vista sold 100 million copies, if Vista would not have been released would they have sold 100 million copies of XP? More than 100 million? Less?




RE: Am I just thick headed?
By bangmal on 1/26/2008 11:09:55 AM , Rating: 2
You can still buy XP, preloaded or oem or retail or whatever.
The choice is there.


70% is ALOT
By TimberJon on 1/25/2008 2:34:54 PM , Rating: 1
Pleased but not caravanning to the bank like Nintendo. I believe they did really well but the report on them not testing the product thoroughly prior to ship is pretty bad..




RE: 70% is ALOT
By 91TTZ on 1/26/2008 11:31:37 AM , Rating: 2
What does "ALOT" mean?

Is it anything like "a lot"?


MS
By billybob24 on 1/27/2008 9:39:53 AM , Rating: 1
Had massive, massive, profit increase and Dailytech tries to mute the headline and the information as much as possible. Speaking only of a mild increase in revenue for example. And not including anywhere in the story MS's 79% quarterly profit rise.

We all know Dailytech is paid by Sony, but just as an example I looked at the "related headlines when I clicked on this story and the Sony story in the sidebar. Related for MS:

"Microsoft Insider: Xbox 360 Team Knowingly Launched Faulty Hardware
January 24, 2008, 10:00 AM
EU Looks For More Anti-competition Gold in the Microsoft Mine
January 16, 2008, 11:01 AM
Microsoft Launches New Zunes
October 2, 2007, 11:30 PM
Microsoft Loses $690M EU Antitrust Appeal"

So that's three negative MS headlines, and one that's sort of neutral.

So then I clicked on the Sony story on the sidebar, itself a positive headline, "Sony Develops Smaller, Cheaper Blu-ray Disc Laser Unit". And what were the four related headlines to that story?

"PlayStation 3 Now Costs Sony $400 to Manufacture
January 14, 2008, 6:29 PM
Sony Aims for PS3 Profitability by Next Year
January 8, 2008, 6:08 AM
Samsung Player Brings Blu-ray Disc Hardware to $299
December 10, 2007, 3:10 AM
Thanks Sony: 40GB PlayStation 3 Uses 65nm Cell Afterall
November "

4 stories blowing sunshine up Sony's ass. 4 positive headlines, all related to Sony doing something good.

I know Dailytech is paid by Sony, but it's kind of ridiculous how obvious it really is.




RE: MS
By billybob24 on 1/27/2008 9:45:07 AM , Rating: 1
LOL, even more hilarious, after I posted this comment I looked down and what is the qoute I just happen to see staring at me from the bottom of Dailytech?

>>"I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For [Paramount] to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks!" -- Movie Director Michael Bay>>

I just really want people to be aware the Dailytech is paid by Sony to promote Blu Ray, that's all.


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