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Hardware Michael Bay Back on Blu-ray Bandwagon
Marcus Yam (Blog) - October 24, 2007 3:22 PM
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"Transformers" director says his money is on Blu-ray Disc

Director Michael Bay’s latest effort, the Transformers movie, immediately broke home video release records on October 16. Transformers on HD DVD became the fastest selling high-definition release in history, with 100,000 copies sold on the first day.

190,000 copies were sold over the first week, leading Paramount to boast Transformers as, “the fastest and best-selling week one release on either high definition format as well as the best selling HD DVD ever.”

Despite Bay’s great success on HD DVD with Transformers, the action director is showing little faith in the future of the high-definition optical format. Speaking to USA Today regarding the smashing release of Transformers on high-definition, Bay commented on Paramount and DreamWorks’ decision to go HD DVD-exclusive saying, “It's short-sighted and it has delayed consumers' moving to HD (home video). As a director, my critical eye is that Blu-ray is where my money is. Consumers are smart, and they are going to wait it out.”

Michael Bay’s Blu-ray-backing comments are the latest in a string of lines critical of Paramount and DreamWorks’ deal with the HD DVD camp. Immediately following the exclusivity announcement, Bay posted on his website, “I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me.”

Bay later backpedalled on his blog to a different tune, praising HD DVD’s hardware pricing and said that he might indeed be back to direct Transformers 2.

The Transformers director’s critical view of the home market release isn’t limited to just the HD DVD version, however, as he also told the paper that the DVD release was “not as good as it could have been.”

“I was traveling promoting (Transformers) while they were doing the DVD,” Bay said. “You try to guide people as to what to do (in making it), but ultimately if you rush your date, you are not going to get the DVD as good as it could be. … Studios want to pump this stuff out, and my job is to care about it and try to put the right people on it. They just see it as a show they are selling, and I see it as a movie. That's how your movie lives on, in the DVD format.”

Whether or not Bay is satisfied with Paramount’s high-definition format of choice, his movie will also live on in HD DVD format.

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Question
By The0ne on 10/24/2007 4:03:19 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone wonders what Speilberg is thinking about Michael Bay? I think about this all the time and I think he's laughing :)




RE: Question
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/24/2007 4:14:30 PM , Rating: 5
I doubt speilberg really cares. Him and Lucas are sitting back talking about old times, and staying out of this sort of stupidity. Bay is just a hot head and doesn't know when to be quiet. I think the guy just loves to be in the news.


RE: Question
By Locutus465 on 10/24/2007 5:46:09 PM , Rating: 2
I just wonder what makes him think Blueray is where the money is... Would he be getting more royalties if blueray won? I doubt it.... For a directors perspective, the media really shouldn't matter much... But I guess everyone has to have their opinion, which is fine... I guess perhaps when he said that's where the money is he was referring to the fact that blueray players are more than 50% more expensive than comprable HD players and he's figuring bigger profit margins?


RE: Question
By Link on 10/24/2007 10:34:35 PM , Rating: 3
It's because they went with HD-DVD, they could only use Dolby-Plus due to lack of disk capacity. If they went with BR, the movie could have better sound with either Dolby TrueHD or Uncomressed PCM the same picture qualty.
Besides, 300 clearly showed people buy more BD than HD-DVD, so Bay was right that BR is where the money is.


RE: Question
By Locutus465 on 10/24/2007 11:49:02 PM , Rating: 2
Bays comments make it seem as if he beleives he will be better off economically with a blueray win... If that's the case he's delutional, once the victor is decided people will buy that format...


RE: Question
By melgross on 10/25/2007 11:43:47 AM , Rating: 2
You misunderstand his statement. He's saying quite clearly that going HD-DVD only, is giving consumers less choice, and prolonging the day when we will see one format win out, as he obviously knows that Blu-Ray sells many more copies of a film than does HD-DVD. His own friends seem to be Blu-Ray owners.

Introducing this in both formats would have allowed consumers to make that choice, which would have resulted in more Blu-Ray copies being sold (because that's what always happens), and therefore brought the day closer when only one format would survive, presumably Blu-Ray.

Despite the number of supporters of HD-DVD on these forums, consumers seem to be buying Blu-Ray in preference to HD-DVD.

That seems to frustrate the HD-DVD backers here.


RE: Question
By Locutus465 on 10/25/2007 1:21:17 PM , Rating: 4
So far "consumers" pretty much strictly means "early adopters" who don't shy away on spending a good deal on whatever technology they persive as being the best... I agree that as a whole early adopters to this point seem to like blueray... The sony name helps (yes folks, sony actually has a good name in electronics) and the greater storage capacity at launch help push the perception that Blueray is superior despite it's short comings as a technology for watching high def movies (inconsitant BDJ, rampent MPEG2, cost (manufacturing and consumer)).

We're now getting to the point where HD-DVD (but not blueray) is accessable to a much wider audiance (Toshiba A2 retails $220 on amazon, A1 is sub $200). So the Win I'm seeing this holiday season for HD-DVD will come in the form of a the vast number of HD-TV owners out there who want HD home movie tech (HD-DVD/BD) but have been holding out because the technology was considered too new/expensive. With HD-DVD hovering at and just under $200 "santa" may be delivering a larger number of HD-DVD players (and media) than Blueray...

This is obviously 100% speculation on my part, so take it as you will.


RE: Question
By DingieM on 10/25/2007 3:11:15 AM , Rating: 3
Almost nobody can recreate TrueHD and/or uncompressed PCM because those receivers are too plain expensive. And than one needs good quality speakers to hear the difference, and than one needs a good room for audible quality. Almost nobody has that.

Like he said, customers are smart, but they want cheap devices and no fuss with DRM imparing Blu-Ray. HD-DVD is clearly better with that respect.
If people would really care about HD, than you would see it already, but its not.

Its really *that* simple.

And besides, Transformers is not a quality movie, its just entertainment.


RE: Question
By michal1980 on 10/25/07, Rating: -1
RE: Question
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/25/2007 7:17:00 AM , Rating: 1
Pure conjecture on your part. "300" proves nothing. Show me a clear pattern of ratio's on dual format releases, and then we'll talk, otherwise you have no argument.


RE: Question
By GreenyMP on 10/25/2007 9:48:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
"300" proves nothing

You are in denial. It proves a lot. It may not be a large enough sample to do any real statistical analysis, but I think I remember you and the rest of the HD-DVD supporters saying, "Blu-ray only sells more because they have better titles. Wait until a title releases on both formats -- then we will see which one sells more." Now you want a trend. Oh, "...and just wait until Wal-mart starts selling sub $200 players". When faced with plain-as-day statistics, you still deny the nose on your face.


RE: Question
By Shoal07 on 10/25/2007 10:50:55 AM , Rating: 2
While I’ll admit that the “audiophile” market is niche, it is not as small as you make it sound. Actually, the majority of your early HDTV and HD player adopters are likely also audiophiles with Receivers and speakers. A receiver can handle PCM pretty easily, it is the UNCOMPRESSED audio, most receivers have no problem with it. If yours does, you can use the separate 5.1 or 7.1 analog inputs and bypass the processor. I don’t care HOW you compress a signal, PCM is the PURE signal. I would take PCM any day, which is why I went w/ Bluray. And by most receivers, I mean at about ~$799 and up. People who spend $3k on a big HDTV and zip on their speakers are just plain missing out. You should spend at least as much on your audio system (receiver or pre/pro and amps, + speakers) as you do on your TV. I spent about 1k/2k on receiver/speakers (not including my new sub) almost 2 years ago and they’re perfect. Plus, unlike the TV, I could get 25+ years out of the speakers (given I don’t abuse them).

PCM FTW!


RE: Question
By Etsp on 10/29/2007 5:03:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
While I’ll admit that the “audiophile” market is niche, it is not as small as you make it sound.

That pun wasn't on purpose was it? XD


RE: Question
By Belard on 10/25/07, Rating: 0
RE: Question
By FITCamaro on 10/25/2007 8:43:46 AM , Rating: 3
A lot of people don't care if it doesn't do 1080p since 1080i looks just as good and a lot of people have 720p TVs.

Regardless of whether it supports 1080p, the vast majority of people are going to buy the cheapest thing they can. So HD-DVD has an edge. Price wins format wars. Not features. That said, HD-DVD supports all the same features Blu-ray does except the extra layer of DRM on the disc.

And you've been able to pick up HD-DVD players for $199 several times.


RE: Question
By RMSe17 on 10/25/2007 9:23:02 AM , Rating: 1
Look.. It doesn't take a high school degree to see which format is better. All you have to do is go to www.newegg.com and look at the blank media and burners.

I see BluRay BURNERS that I can buy. I see BluRay MEDIA that I can buy to put stuff on. I DO NOT see HD-DVD blank media OR burners. This is so simple, a little kid will get it. BluRay wins, HD-DVD is a bunch of [you fill in]...


RE: Question
By DingieM on 10/25/2007 10:04:53 AM , Rating: 1
Tunnel vision.

So newegg is in the US the only choice? grow up.
There is very small percentage using HD media for backups. Thats right, buy a burner for backing up. Now what: with the DRM impaired BluRay you may not even copy/backup your own disc.

Blu-Ray wins? Don't make me laugh.

People want cheap things and don't care about the best quality, so what would they like to have? A good price-quality ratio and features...than there is only one clear and objective choice: HD-DVD

Its simple as that.

Except it.


RE: Question
By Locutus465 on 10/25/2007 9:31:16 AM , Rating: 1
Toshiba A2 player costs $250 at best buy (can be gotten cheaper), as you point out the cheapest set top BD player currently available is $500... Thus, 50%... My math skilz are 1337 yo ;)


RE: Question
By Parhel on 10/25/2007 10:25:55 AM , Rating: 2
In that case, you could say that Blu-Ray players are 100% more expensive than HD-DVD players.


RE: Question
By leexgx on 10/25/2007 3:24:58 PM , Rating: 2
$400 for an PS3 now and it can play games, use the internet, Folding@home, and play BD, and when thay sort it out be an media center as well (HDD is user upgradeable)


RE: Question
By ChipDude on 10/25/2007 3:54:59 PM , Rating: 2
400 dollars for a PS3 WOW...

It plays no games my kids are interested.
Already got a computer with a key board to surf the net.
Folding home.. why should I care?

250 bucks I got a wii with games my kids want
For 200 bucks I'll have a HD-DVD player that will win the format wars. Factor in the money spent on games I'm way ahead vs have some high tech Cell machine that with few games and soon no movies to play too.


RE: Question
By leexgx on 10/25/2007 9:58:32 PM , Rating: 2
Folding@home Gives you the option.... does not mean you have to use it, just its probably an good idea to turn it on

For 200 bucks I'll have a HD-DVD player that will win the format wars :) (don't quote me on this but that may not be an Full 1080p ones),

you have you option i have mine the thing is i Want Blu-ray to win not saying it will win but from the sales of BR that says other wise

both will never die PS3 will make sure of that and HD-camp well other company's will still push that drive as well, and likely the Next Xbox that comes out probably have an HD-DVD drive in it (but it make more common sense to use an BR drive as it can store Allot more content)

and on the pc side as to my other post BR offers better disk size compared to an HD-dvd disk, Plus the fact you cant even Buy an HD-dvd burner yet (not that i have seen one yet only BR burners Probably due the the fact the size BR can store compared to an HD-dvd makes common sense)


RE: Question
By Locutus465 on 10/25/2007 4:23:03 PM , Rating: 2
I really wish people would stop posting like I can go out to walmart after work today and get a PS3 at this price... This is up and coming still... And even then, you have to be interested in the game selection available to the PS3, or watching blueray movies, even then you need $400 disposable income which is still asking alot (particularly for families)...


RE: Question
By leexgx on 10/25/2007 9:40:33 PM , Rating: 2
well at the end of this yr or close to it i getting an PS3 any ways, the use we going to get out of an Stand alone player cant justify it as it may not get used alot but for Xmas and games for that time it will

why buy an player that can Only do one thing (well 2 or 3 if you take the DVD player or cd video), when the PS3 can do more then 1 thing
why should i be forced to buy an HD-dvd player when Daft company's singe an deal for 18 months to do HD-dvd only there loss in $$ as if thay sold in HD-dvd And Blu-ray we come to the 2x the sales of Blu-ray to HD-dvd again as all sales seem to have proven it (2x more profit + the sales of HD-dvd as well so its an win win if thay sell to both now and have now Held back Witch format will be main leader even thought seems likely BR is out selling better)

going to ask one of my friends any way how you get video to it (convert stuff he had his for an bit) so i can send it to the PS3 over the network cable, as until an blu-ray burner comes cheap enough, as cant be having HD content like Transformers IN hd-dvd only convert it and burn it to an BR disk, or convert it see if it can HD files from the hdd

BR offers More space per Single disk if i was using HD-DVD i Will have to use more then 1 disk (tv side that be one less Season per disk) and that cost more in the long run and i have to contend with more disks and places to put them

in the UK any way


Quick work on the icon
By killerroach on 10/24/2007 3:24:37 PM , Rating: 5
Most recent South Park, in fact...

"No, Mr. Bay, those aren't ideas, those are special effects."
"I don't know what's the difference."
"Of course you don't."




RE: Quick work on the icon
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/24/2007 3:33:13 PM , Rating: 5
LOL, great moment. However, the best part... hands down was the Saving Private Ryan sequence.

Ronald McDonald walking around and then picking up his severed arm had me rolling. I was laughing for about a minute straight :-)


RE: Quick work on the icon
By hr824 on 10/24/2007 3:40:56 PM , Rating: 2
Watching Butters get kicked bt terrioist was sad and funny at the same time.

BTW the best part of the transformers HD DVD was in the extras.... The look on Bays face when informed that a car hurrled through the air by a nitro catapult was logged in a second story window instead of landing on the street like ot was suposed to.


RE: Quick work on the icon
By Anh Huynh on 10/24/2007 3:48:52 PM , Rating: 2
Butter's is my favorite character. There's not a single episode with Butter's that doesn't crack me up.

Same goes for Cartman :D.

I can't wait for tonights episode!


RE: Quick work on the icon
By kinnoch on 10/24/2007 6:44:20 PM , Rating: 2
nothing beats butters using the urinal. Cracks me up every time.


RE: Quick work on the icon
By FITCamaro on 10/24/2007 3:44:38 PM , Rating: 2
The second part is tonight. Rejoice.

I was laughing my ass off at that whole episode.


RE: Quick work on the icon
By Gul Westfale on 10/24/2007 3:46:28 PM , Rating: 2
"are you going to rape us?"
"no."
"ok then."

now we have to wait for parts 2 and 3... I NEED MORE CHEESY POOF!


RE: Quick work on the icon
By helios220 on 10/24/07, Rating: -1
RE: Quick work on the icon
By shabby on 10/24/2007 4:46:59 PM , Rating: 2
Hahah best lyrics ever :D


RE: Quick work on the icon
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/24/2007 5:22:52 PM , Rating: 2
Oh man, I can't wait until tonight! :)


RE: Quick work on the icon
By FITCamaro on 10/24/2007 10:32:56 PM , Rating: 2
Let's rape them.

No we should rape and kill them.

No, lets kill them, then rape their bodies. And use their blood as lubricant!

Man I'd hate to meet the kid that imagined those things.


RE: Quick work on the icon
By Gul Westfale on 10/25/2007 11:04:57 AM , Rating: 2
i guess you never saw "blood orgy" then?


RE: Quick work on the icon
By jtemplin on 10/24/2007 8:41:24 PM , Rating: 2
Screw Bay and screw the format wars...all we need is 2-d cutouts in a simple palette!

Hooray South Park!


Michael Bay....
By daftrok on 10/24/2007 4:31:22 PM , Rating: 5
SUCKS. I really wished Steven Spielberg directed this movie instead.




RE: Michael Bay....
By maverick85wd on 10/24/07, Rating: -1
RE: Michael Bay....
By daftrok on 10/24/2007 11:46:05 PM , Rating: 5
Saving Private Ryan, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Munich, Minority Report, SCHINDLER'S LIST, Empire of the Sun, E.T!, JAWS. Are you just THAT retarded?


RE: Michael Bay....
By Locutus465 on 10/24/2007 11:52:40 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree... Based on what I've seen from Bay v. Spielberg I'm guessing it's likely the movie would be better... Perl harbor was a nightmare... Yes... Lets frankenstine together a full length love story feature film with a full length war movie... The sad part is I actually very impressed with the war movie half of the film... Perhaps he should have stuck with that.


RE: Michael Bay....
By maverick85wd on 10/25/2007 11:37:10 AM , Rating: 2
I never said Spielberg was a bad director. Many of the movies you listed are a few of my favorites as well, particularly Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List.

However, War of the Worlds was one of his more recent films and was similar to how Transformers would be made since it was mostly computer animated.... and I didn't think War of the Worlds was that great.

I was really just trying to make a witty remark, apparently my sense of humor was not appreciated! lol...


RE: Michael Bay....
By leexgx on 10/25/2007 3:17:52 PM , Rating: 2
at least the movie would of been in Both formats then


How big is this guy's head?
By gochichi on 10/24/2007 4:32:09 PM , Rating: 4
This guy is definitely not up for employee of the year.

I can kind of see where he's coming from, but he underestimates how much regular people care about the difference between $400.00 and $200.00 for a player. People that have real jobs, that's what this guy doens't understand at all.

See, regular people that have good jobs... wouldn't stab their employers in the back with their bloggs, because it would be a ridiculous risk to take over what boils down to nothing much.

I understand that this guy is rich, I don't know what thay feels like. But is he really SO rich that he can just test his luck like this? I mean, and Transformers has so little to do with him anyway... I mean come on, it's based off of a cartoon we grew up with and loved...




RE: How big is this guy's head?
By HotdogIT on 10/24/2007 5:01:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
But is he really SO rich that he can just test his luck like this?


Umm.. yes?


RE: How big is this guy's head?
By rbrown84 on 10/25/2007 9:33:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'm so tired of hearing this from some idiots out there. HD-DVD players are NOT $200 cheaper than blu ray players, go check on Bestbuy.com if you don't believe me. The only HDDVD player that is $100 cheaper is the 720p/1080i one. But when it comes to 1080p, BOTH HDDVD and blu ray players are at $400 (counting the new 40GB ps3). The only way I can see that you get a $200 HD-DVD player at 1080p is if you buy used on ebay or amazon...

And if I'm going to spend the same amount of money for a high def movie player ($400) then i might as well go with blu ray since they have more movies/studios


RE: How big is this guy's head?
By Locutus465 on 10/25/2007 11:31:01 PM , Rating: 2
Amazon has the A2 at $220 and the A1 at $180... That's right now, you can buy them at those prices those very second... Please show me were I can get a $400 blueray player *right now*... Even later this year when the PS3 finally drops in price, it's still going to be $200 more expensive... If you prefer to buy your high def player at a brick and morter store, go to walmart and pick up an A2 at $200...


Consumers are smart? hahahalololol
By Shadowmaster625 on 10/24/2007 5:07:26 PM , Rating: 3
If consumers were smart they wouldnt be buying lead coated toys made in china. They wouldnt be buying any toys made in china. "Here you go son, this toy is given to remind you that you wont have a job when you grow up. HA HA HA"




By rtrski on 10/24/2007 5:20:42 PM , Rating: 2
"...but don't worry son, just teethe on it, ingest a bit of that tasty paint, and you'll be retarded enough to be unemployable, anyway!"


By sviola on 10/24/2007 5:49:27 PM , Rating: 3
If consumers were smart they'd never buy any crap from Sony (proprietary formats that last less than a year) or Apple (way overpriced not the best in market items).


By timmiser on 10/24/2007 7:18:17 PM , Rating: 2
Are you saying that you would never have bought your kids any toys made in China?

Or any toys made in China with lead?

Prior to this making the headlines, how just exactly are consumers the idiots?

I think you made it clear who the idiot is.


Headline here (intentionally) misleading ?
By softwiz on 10/24/2007 3:57:40 PM , Rating: 3
It seemed like the USA Today article (and this blog post) were mostly rehashing old news mixed in with very little new information. Anyone agree ?

It seemed Mr. Bay was making more complaints about the DVD release than anything else. There wasn't much new revelation in that article about the HD-DVD release. That was pretty unexpected given the headline here.




RE: Headline here (intentionally) misleading ?
By Marcus Yam on 10/24/2007 4:06:50 PM , Rating: 2
I'm just assuming that his comments on Blu-ray were made during the same USA Today interview when he spoke about the DVD release.

The headline was not (intentionally) misleading, as I think that Bay said what he did fairly recently. Given our previous coverage of Bay's views on HD DVD/Blu-ray, it seemed only right to follow-up.

I suppose we could have went on the the "Bay not happy with DVD release" angle, but if you know Michael Bay, rarely is he happy with anything.

His outspokenness on the high-def format war is the news item here.


By softwiz on 10/24/2007 4:30:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I suppose we could have went on the the "Bay not happy with DVD release" angle, but if you know Michael Bay, rarely is he happy with anything.


Yep. He's dissed DVD, HD DVD so Blu-ray's number must be up. It's only a matter of time. I wouldn't be surprised to hear him say something along the lines of "DVD, Blu-ray, HD DVD...three formats and not one can accurately portray my vision! Can't someone bring out a proper format ?!" (Kidding)


By Johnmcl7 on 10/24/2007 8:39:28 PM , Rating: 2
I certainly agree with you, I was a little puzzled with the article after reading the headline as it refers to the DVD release specifically. From what I've heard (not looked into it at all as I went for the HD DVD) the DVD release isn't a great one so his comments make sense.

On the other hand, it would be great if he went with his original threat and didn't have anything to do with Transformers 2 - while I think the Transformers themselves are stunning the rest leaves a lot to be desired, even in its current state it could be easily cut down and produce a far better film.

John


Looks like Bay wants to direct a Sony movie
By wallijonn on 10/24/2007 3:43:19 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe Tim Story (Fantastic Four) and Sam Raimi (Spiderman 3) will complain that their movies should be released on HD-DVD.




By shaw on 10/25/2007 8:11:13 AM , Rating: 2
The first Fantastic Four movie totally messed up Dr. Doom so got a thumbs down for me. The second movie did Dr. Doom perfectly, but then screwed up Galactus so another thumbs down. Then again I'm not sure if the problem here is the director or the writer, but it's probably the writer.


michael's bay big secret revealed...
By dare2savefreedom on 10/24/2007 6:25:06 PM , Rating: 2
The reason is he such a great guy is probably he wears underarmor.
Thanks michael for caring about us.




By maverick85wd on 10/24/2007 7:02:04 PM , Rating: 2
???


"Back"???
By Cobra Commander on 10/24/2007 3:54:16 PM , Rating: 1
Michael Bay AFAIK has done nothing but bitched about he HD-DVD exclusivity from Day 1, has he not? How is he "back" (on the wagon) therefore?




RE: "Back"???
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/24/2007 4:08:57 PM , Rating: 2
He was quiet about it for a while, now hes back to flapping his jaw.


And I should give a #!$* why?
By SiliconAddict on 10/25/2007 12:31:20 AM , Rating: 1
Michael Bay's concept of a plot is intense music, a bunch of guys in military drab walking across an open field in slow motion, and "A reason to come home". The guy knows how to make a see-it-once summer blockbuster hit, but overall has about as much real talent as Peewee Herman.
Hell look at any REAL director who is worth anything and they wouldn't give a shit about BR or HDDVD. Makes me wonder who is paying him off that he gets so bent out of shape. As if he has some thing to loose if one platform wins over the other.
So what if HD-DVD looses at the end of the day. Does this moron really thing that Transformers or any of his others movies won't ever make it on the "winning" platform.
Moron.




RE: And I should give a #!$* why?
By BansheeX on 10/25/2007 1:37:11 AM , Rating: 2
Pee-Wee Herman has no talent? Pee-Wee is hilarious and Pee-Wee's Big Adventure is one of the greatest movies of all time.


Where the money is at
By Griswold on 10/25/2007 5:27:55 AM , Rating: 2
Right now, the money is where DVD is. Not HD-DVD or BR-Disc, but the good old DVD.

I read somewhere, while the flick sold 190k HD-DVD copies in the first week, the DVD sales were upwards 4.5 million copies on the first day . So, while everyone and their mother touts HD sales, the HD sales figures crumble like an old cookie compared to the oh so outdated DVD - for obvious reasons:

Bay is right, the fans will wait out. We'll wait out until combo players are really affordable and then we'll buy one and forget about any format woes. Anything else doesnt really make sense unless you got money to burn. But I'll admit, if I wanted to buy a HD capable player, it would be a HD-DVD one right now, because its cheaper.

Michael Bay is still a nutsack.




RE: Where the money is at
By Belard on 10/25/2007 7:49:22 AM , Rating: 1
Yes, the market is waiting to see which format wins... the retail stores ARE not going to SUPPORT 2 simular formats! There isn't room for 3 version of the same movie (DVD, HD-DVD, BR) - they're not exactly happy to have to make room for a HD format.

If Parmount stayed Neutral, fine... and we'd see BR versions of Transformers sell like hot-cakes over HD-DVD version. Remember folks, HD-DVD camp paid Parmount to come to their side. But if Parmount/Dreamworks went to BR instead, it would have been most likely the last straw to break HD-DVD.

Uh... you're a bit OFF on youe HD-DVD is cheaper... the price difference is actually $50 for a 1080p Toshiba vs Sony, Samsung's units... both with better warranties too.
And a $400 PS3 can duke it out with Toshiba. Check out pricing... For the most part, there are 3 HD-DVD players from Toshiba to choose from - PERIOD ($300/400/500) vs 8 models of BR from Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp - with Phlips and Pioneer jumping in within the next few weeks.

Michael Bay is a nutsack... most of his movies are dead-brain... Transformers is his best work... behind THE ROCK... the rest, er.. pretty much stupid junk... that looks kinda cool.


When I read this...
By evildorf on 10/24/2007 6:12:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Bay posted on his website, “...No Transformers 2 for me.”


Sweet. Please let this be true whether or not he backpedalled.




Finally saw Transformers...
By mruffin75 on 10/25/2007 8:53:48 AM , Rating: 2
And I must say..

Please for the love of god...Michael Bay...PLEASE keep to your word and NOT come back for Transformers 2..

The movie, instead of being freaking great...was just "OK"..

There were too many Bay-ism's in the movie.. plus waay too much advertising...
Anyone remember the brand of the memory card used in the movie? It was too freaking obvious! They may as well have just stopped the movie and played an advertisement for Panasonic instead..




Yawn....
By mcnabney on 10/25/2007 12:09:49 PM , Rating: 2
Wake me when 4K gets here for home use.......




Where to put your money?
By ChipDude on 10/25/2007 3:50:46 PM , Rating: 2
You put it on the platform that will be cheapest and still offer what the consumer wants. That is going to be HD-DVD, don't let the PS3 numbers skew things.

This Holiday everybody will have the opportunity to get a 199 HD-DVD. Who cares that there are a few million PS3 sold. In the end Sony won't be giving away Blue-ray players for 99 bucks next year so rest assured HD simply can't lose, they have the fundamental advantage called PRICE.

http://bigtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/10/25/hd...




Michelle gay
By mrdeezus on 10/25/07, Rating: 0
How big is this guy's head?
By gochichi on 10/24/07, Rating: -1
RE: How big is this guy's head?
By psychotix11 on 10/25/2007 10:11:16 AM , Rating: 1
I don't think he cares about the "regular" person, he also doesn't care about uncompressed HD either, because let's face it, out of the fraction that have an HD player, an even smaller fraction have the proper receiver and speakers for it to matter.

The real issue is that blu-ray has more DRM. Bad for you and me, great for corporations.

If you love DRM, buy blu-ray and support it.


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