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Man stabbed wife to death after she change marital status to single on Facebook

Social networking sites are hubs for people from all over the world, from all races and of both sexes. The sites are used to keep in touch with friends, family and to find new friends. The popular social networking sites have had their problems though.

One of the most popular of the social networking site is Facebook. Facebook has been at the center of more than one controversy, the most recent being the removal of images of mothers breast feeding from the site.

Breastfeeding mothers may or may not be disturbing to most users of the site, but one thing that is universally disturbing for Facebook is when the site is flash point for a serious crime. A man named Edward Richardson from Staffordshire England was enraged by something his estranged wife posted on Facebook.

The man found that his wife had changed her status from married to single on the site and became enraged. After trying to contact his estranged wife via text messages and getting no response, Richardson traveled to the home of his wife's parents, where she had been staying.

He then broke a window out of the front door, entered the home and killed the woman in what is being called a "frenzied and brutal attack". After killing his wife, the man attempted to take his own life but failed to do so.

Richardson was sentenced to 18 years in prison recently for the brutal murder. Detective Inspector Andy Wall said, "She had decided that her marriage to Edward Richardson was over but this was clearly something he could not accept. The consequence was that Sarah lost her life in a brutal attack at her husband's hands in her family home. The verdict cannot bring Sarah back but we hope that it gives her family some form of comfort."

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That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 10:45:21 AM , Rating: 5
18 years? Seriously? This country really needs to pull it's head out of it's ass.




RE: That's It?
By Motoman on 1/27/2009 10:47:18 AM , Rating: 5
Yup. Shoot him. Now.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 10:50:24 AM , Rating: 5
Shotgun slug would be a whole lot cheaper than keeping him in prison. It's not like this was an accident, he willfully went in for no real reason and killed her.


RE: That's It?
By DASQ on 1/27/2009 11:31:25 AM , Rating: 5
Shotgun slugs cost a fortune compared to .22LR


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 11:32:51 AM , Rating: 5
I'm trying to be humane here. Shotgun slug to the head is pretty much dead before you even have time to register it, especially at close range. .22LR, well that is a crap shoot.


RE: That's It?
By Motoman on 1/27/2009 11:37:20 AM , Rating: 5
Throw him off a bridge. Good fun, right up to the end.


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 12:57:22 PM , Rating: 5
Golden.

You know though, if we're gonna go with fun, you should strap a firecracker or two to his nuts. That way you get a two-for-one, his embarassment of having his nuts cooked off and a pretty light display :-)

But that wouldn't be humane, now would it? heh


RE: That's It?
By Motoman on 1/27/2009 2:41:05 PM , Rating: 3
Er, well, I was thinking that being thrown off the bridge would be fun for *him* right up to the very end. In as much as it can be fun to be "flying." As they say, it's not the fall that kills you...


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 2:48:15 PM , Rating: 5
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You know though, if we're gonna go with fun, you should strap a firecracker or two to his nuts. That way you get a two-for-one, his embarassment of having his nuts cooked off and a pretty light display :-)


Why don't we just go back to medieval torture? Clearly you get enjoyment from the suffering of others, so you might as well go all the way, right?

How do you condemn a guy for murder, then get enjoyment from thinking about sick things you would do to a guy?

Mine was in aim to be quick and painless and clear out someone who really doesn't deserve life at that point. Torturing the guy does nothing but take away rights and make you as bad as him.


RE: That's It?
By VashHT on 1/27/2009 3:42:30 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously some people have no problem lowering themselves to the level of those that they condemn...


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:02:58 PM , Rating: 3
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Why no torture?


Because punishment is not meant for your pleasure, it is meant to hopefully correct or clean up society. Removing the murderer from society stops future murders that he may commit as he is obviously willing for trivial reasons in this case. Torturing him is pointless beyond your sick enjoyment. It is no different than the sickos who torture animals. You are just as bad, you just think you are better.

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The guy deserves to feel pain, how much pain do yout hink he has caused for everyone of his wifes family members? Putting a simple bullet in his head wont show him the true pain caused by his actions.


Solves absolutely nothing. Doesn't fix the problem and is a huge waste of time to boot. Bullet is cheap, efficient and treating him better than he may have treated someone else. We are not barbarians, if you condone that behavior, I'm sure the Middle East would be more than happy to take your crazy ass.

The bottom line is you want to torture people without consequences, but you can't unless you have a decent reason. You are just as sick, you just realize the consequences are too high, so you try to find a loophole.


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 5:22:17 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
your crazy ass.


Oh believe me, not the first time I have been told that, most definately not the last.

quote:
The bottom line is you want to torture people without consequences, but you can't unless you have a decent reason. You are just as sick, you just realize the consequences are too high, so you try to find a loophole.


I also realize I am too cynical and too cold hearted sometimes for my own good because of a few life experiences.

But you people that are humane, I guess you still justify swabbing an inmates arm with alcohol before the lethal injection goes into thier arms? Now tell me that isn't a huge waste.

I enjoy chaos in general, whether I am apart of it or not. Let me enjoy it while you all fret over it.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:49:44 PM , Rating: 2
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I also realize I am too cynical and too cold hearted sometimes for my own good because of a few life experiences.


No, you are just a jackass, big difference. What you don't understand is if you are killing someone, it "teaches" them absolutely nothing to torture them first. It is merely a way for you to get arousal and excitement.

quote:
But you people that are humane, I guess you still justify swabbing an inmates arm with alcohol before the lethal injection goes into thier arms? Now tell me that isn't a huge waste.


Lethal injection is actually not a great way to go, they consider it painless, but they say there are plenty of times it is quite painful but since it seizes the body, you can't hear it. Swabbing the arm really is just a medical habit most likely, as any germs wouldn't really begin to become a problem in an injection site till the next day or at least many hours later.

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I enjoy chaos in general, whether I am apart of it or not. Let me enjoy it while you all fret over it.


No, you merely enjoy the pain of others. One day you may find yourself on the wrong side of that system and I'm sure you will fight not to be killed or tortured. If it were truly chaos, most likely you wouldn't be so happy about it, especially if you found yourself against multiple people who have the same intentions as yourself.


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 6:29:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No, you are just a jackass.


That I am. No doubt about it.

quote:
What you don't understand is if you are killing someone, it "teaches" them absolutely nothing to torture them first. It is merely a way for you to get arousal and excitement.


It may not teach them anything but they, in thier last moments of life, will show absolute fear.

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No, you merely enjoy the pain of others.


If I enjoyed the pain of others, I would be in a position in life with more power so I can take advantage of that power to cause pain.

I just believe in eye for an eye...


RE: That's It?
By Baov on 1/27/2009 10:21:40 PM , Rating: 2
An eye for an eye is about taking, not giving.


RE: That's It?
By plonk420 on 1/27/2009 10:49:05 PM , Rating: 2
quality humans this Saw generation has created...


RE: That's It?
By masher2 (blog) on 1/27/2009 5:10:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Any man that even lays a finger on a woman, child or animal (Micheal Vick anyone?) needs to be tortured and then shot.
I was with you right up to the Vick part. As much as I like dogs, they're still just animals. The death penalty for "laying a finger on an animal" is ludicrous.

Somehow, I suspect by "animals", you mean "only the fuzzy, cute animals". Should someone be a convicted felon for killing a rat in his house? Or a host of cockroaches (yes, they're animals also). What about a feral cat that's killing endangered bird species? Or the lice in a child's head of hair?


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 5:27:17 PM , Rating: 3
Heh, I shoulda forseen someone looking right past that one. You got me there, to a degree.

But I didnt nec. mean just the cute fuzzy animals. What I meant more or less by that is anyone who attacks any kind of animal (aren't cockroaches an insect?) with malicious intent (and by that, an intent out of anger or enjoyment or just plain old cruel nature).

It is one thing to kill rat because it is bothering your family but a whole other to kill it to get your jollies off.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:39:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It is one thing to kill rat because it is bothering your family but a whole other to kill it to get your jollies off.


Directly contradicting your previous statement of wanting to torture, don't you think?


RE: That's It?
By theapparition on 1/27/2009 5:44:45 PM , Rating: 2
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As much as I like dogs, they're still just animals. Somehow, I suspect by "animals", you mean "only the fuzzy, cute animals". Should someone be a convicted felon for killing a rat in his house? Or a host of cockroaches (yes, they're animals also).

And we’re different? Homo sapiens are also just animals. I don’t see why you should stop the differentiation right there.
Clearly, the OP meant to convey that someone who takes pleasure out of torturing “fuzzy, cute” animals is in the need of serious rehabilitation (or removal from society). It is no coincidence that many violent offenders have a history of animal abuse leading back to childhood. It is this callous lack of compassion for other living animal companions that is indicative of psychopathic behavior.

Death penalty is perhaps too harsh. But the current levels of punishment for animal abuse are far too lax.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:53:44 PM , Rating: 3
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And we’re different? Homo sapiens are also just animals. I don’t see why you should stop the differentiation right there.


Very true, we are merely primates. Our certain traits have put us high in the pecking order, but we are animals none the less.

I agree that torturing any animal is despicable, killing on the other hand I usually take no issue with as long as it has good reason and is done as humanely as possible.

Also, yes, the punishment at the very least should include psychological treatment for sure to determine if they are even able to be rehabilitated.


RE: That's It?
By Parhel on 1/27/2009 6:31:42 PM , Rating: 2
If we're no different, than eating a steak or going hunting would be the moral equivalent of shooting one's wife. Or, more to the point, it would be OK as long as one ate her afterwards.


RE: That's It?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/27/2009 5:42:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
How do you condemn a guy for murder, then get enjoyment from thinking about sick things you would do to a guy?


Easily.


RE: That's It?
By Rob94hawk on 1/27/2009 9:51:46 PM , Rating: 1
People like you are the reason this country's prisons are filled will psycho murderers. After they brutally murder someone they know they are going to get pampered and fed for their entire length of their sentence.

I hate bleeding heart liberals like you. If rehab actually worked we wouldn't have repeat offenders.


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/28/2009 3:16:01 AM , Rating: 2
lol


RE: That's It?
By MisterChristopher on 1/28/2009 5:09:53 AM , Rating: 2
It is pretty easy to condemn this person for murder and then wish the same upon him. This was horrific and brutal. He deserves no less. Actually he deserves more considering that in taking that persons life, he hurt a lot of other people by taking a cherished person away from those who loved her. His suffering should be at least more than the suffering of those that he affected with his actions.

Of course here in America, people have freedom from cruel and unusual punishment (except enemy combatants). So, clearly the best punishment in this case is a quick humane execution.


RE: That's It?
By Samus on 1/28/2009 3:24:50 PM , Rating: 3
I'd make throwing him off a bridge a televised event. Even those not ready Feb 17th can tune in!


RE: That's It?
By ThisSpaceForRent on 1/27/2009 1:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
If you shot him in the back of the head you'd be good to go. Shooting him in the face may or may not be fatal, even at point blank range.


RE: That's It?
By dgingeri on 1/27/2009 6:23:05 PM , Rating: 2
I got a better idea: (one stolen from Larry Niven) for criminals like this, put them under as for a surgical procedure, then take them apart. We have far too many people in this country needing organs, and people like this need to be put down for the sake of civilization. Why not use these criminals as organ donors?


RE: That's It?
By Nexos on 1/28/2009 6:14:56 AM , Rating: 3
The chinese have been doing that for quite some time now.


RE: That's It?
By fictisiousname on 1/28/2009 10:11:15 AM , Rating: 2
"I'm trying to be humane here. Shotgun slug to the head is pretty much dead before you even have time to register it, especially at close range. .22LR, well that is a crap shoot"

True. Yet some people apparently have crap for brains, eh? ;-)


RE: That's It?
By HelToupee on 1/28/2009 9:30:45 AM , Rating: 2
Nah. Captive-bolt gun.


RE: That's It?
By timmiser on 1/28/2009 8:58:26 PM , Rating: 2
How about that thing from No Country for Old Men?


RE: That's It?
By SpaceJumper on 1/27/2009 11:12:39 AM , Rating: 2
I agree 100%


RE: That's It?
By FaceMaster on 1/27/2009 10:52:47 AM , Rating: 2
I still don't get why some one who loves another person would kill them. Oh well.


RE: That's It?
By Moishe on 1/27/2009 11:03:00 AM , Rating: 5
Cuz it's not love.

The dude is obviously pretty "off" in the head and has no business being in society.


RE: That's It?
By SlipDizzy on 1/27/2009 11:02:15 AM , Rating: 4
So not only is this guy a murderer, but also a failure. I agree with Gzus666, its a lot cheaper to just shoot him now then to leave him in our jail systems.

18 years?!?! Don't people get more years for selling drugs?


RE: That's It?
By JonnyBlaze on 1/27/2009 11:35:57 AM , Rating: 2
yep. i know someone right now facing 15 years for a drug charge


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/27/2009 11:47:53 AM , Rating: 2
How many people did that kill?

*ding*


RE: That's It?
By Raidin on 1/27/2009 12:37:40 PM , Rating: 4
People who bought the drugs did it knowingly, and then used them knowingly (most likely). You can't be blamed, or charged, for deaths of your clients.

They don't put gun store owners in jail when the customers kill themselves or others with the guns they bought, even if the gun sale was illegal.


RE: That's It?
By wordsworm on 1/27/2009 12:59:56 PM , Rating: 4
By that logic, people who sell cigarettes should also be put into prison. Then there are cars, guns, and knives, to name but a few.

Drugs are a choice, the man is just a supplier making a living. Shouldn't be a crime at all.


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/28/2009 3:14:03 AM , Rating: 2
the *ding* was because the answer was probably zero.


RE: That's It?
By ira176 on 1/28/2009 12:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately, due to the money making opportunities, and that competative nature of the illicit drug business, people are being shot and stabbed to death all the time.


RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 12:35:49 PM , Rating: 2
18<15 ...???

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By mmntech on 1/27/2009 11:03:12 AM , Rating: 3
It depends on the mitigating circumstances of the crime. It was second degree murder and "crimes of passion" is a legitimate legal defence under common law. Other things factor into sentencing as well, such as past criminal history, if the accused was prone to violence, and victim impact statements.

I do agree though that 18 years does seem a little lenient. Typically, a case like this would get 25 years without parole. Still, I've seen criminals get less for greater crimes. Sounds like this guy obviously has mental issues. Hopefully he'll get some counselling before they release him.


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/27/2009 11:50:51 AM , Rating: 2
Well we don't know what, if anything, she did to him either, not that anything (except perhaps her trying to kill HIM) would excuse what he did. The world is not black and white, however.


RE: That's It?
By Ard on 1/27/2009 12:16:22 PM , Rating: 2
I was thinking the same thing, though at common law the defense of "heat of passion" only applied if a husband literally caught his wife having sex with another man. Nothing else could satisfy that defense. Given that that's not the case here, I'd imagine the defense managed to convince the jury that voluntary manslaughter was more appropriate than first degree murder, which is why the sentence seems so light.


RE: That's It?
By arazok on 1/27/2009 11:17:04 AM , Rating: 5
Compared to the rest of the world, Americans have very stiff sentences. I had a friend who got stabbed 3 times by some piece of crap a few years ago. The guy got 6 months. I don’t think you would see that in America. Pot heads get 25 in some states.

I’d bet that this guy would get 10 years in Canada for this crime, and he’d be out in 6. I’d agree that 18 years is short for murder, but it’s no picnic.

The one thing I’ll never understand is why no country in the world treats pedophiles like the true pieces of crap that they are. I don’t know one person who doesn’t regard these people as worse than murderers, yet no country seems to lock them up for any significant amount of time.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By Ard on 1/27/2009 12:14:11 PM , Rating: 5
Rape is far more than mere assault and the damage it causes isn't just simple emotional harm. To characterize rape in that manner trivializes just how serious it is. especially the rape of a child. Would I rank pedophilia/rape higher than murder? No, but it's a pretty damn close second in my book. There's no excuse for any crime but you can't honestly sit there and tell me that the loss of money and material items, which you can get returned, can even begin to compare to the rape, and violation, of a woman or child.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:33:21 PM , Rating: 5
You're obviously not familiar with what you call "mental anguish" and that it "only affects you as much as you let it."

Read up on post-traumatic stress disorder. And before you call the affected weak, remember that it's equally likely to occur to a rape victim, a GI, a Ranger/Seal, or anybody else exposed to truly brutal circumstances.

PS-It's not just ladies who get raped. I'd imagine a male rape victim would be at least as likely to suffer from PTSD after a rape as a female would.

Fact is rape is neither about the physical violation or the gratification of the perp. It is purely about power and security. Once you've experienced that level of insecurity it's hard to recover. For anybody. Normal doesn't feel safe anymore and when normal |= safe a person tends to have trouble.

Knowing the general sentiment of many posters here, I should probably just have kept all the real knowledge and education on the sideline rather than try to expose the unwilling to the facts, but oh well. Flame on, undereducated college-age male hardasses!


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:53:43 PM , Rating: 5
I can't believe you think theft is worse than rape. Thefts are often recovered, and when they're not the victim is awarded restitution (though it's often not paid). Physical things heal and physical things can be replaced-that's where you get screwed up. You think that replaceable things are important because evidently things you can't see have no value. In reality you're exactly bass-ackwards. Physical things have little value because they are widely shown to not correlate with happiness, whereas love, security, and fulfillment are not touchable or replaceable but correlate with happiness.

I know that some people don't suffer from PTSD even though they were exposed to the same stimuli-that's a very interesting and current field of research right now. Hopefully it can be figured out and translated into treatment modalities that help those who are affected. One thing that I can tell you is likely to not be born out as the reason: because they decided to be OK. If that's the reason that PTSD doesn't work the same in every case I'll stop posting here forever. There's no doubt that PTSD can be exacerbated by people fixating on and being obsessed with their troubles. However, that doesn't change the initial circumstances and it does not cause the PTSD, it worsens symptoms.

The comment about assaults and thefts leading to similar symptoms is both true and misleading. Both of those can be related to similar symptoms. However, there are degrees of affectedness, and it would be really unusual to see a person who had a purse snatched or who got sucker-punched in a bar have the same sorts of difficulties as a rape victim.


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 1:16:08 PM , Rating: 3
Thanks for the compliment. Sorry about the insult, I should have just gone with "*dons asbestos hat*". :)


RE: That's It?
By Myg on 1/27/2009 12:37:22 PM , Rating: 5
Just being brutally honest here.

If you don't sort your head out with what is real and what isn't. One of these articles might be about you one day...


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/28/2009 3:19:26 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
There's no excuse for any crime


That's not explicitly true. I will continuee to smoke the herb.

quote:
can even begin to compare to the rape, and violation, of a woman or child.


or a man!


RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 12:19:31 PM , Rating: 5
Walk down a dark alley and have a guy hold you down while another beats you and steals your wallet.

Then...

Walk down a dark alley and have a guy hold you down while another rapes you.

I bet you change your rankings after that.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 12:36:45 PM , Rating: 5
Well, I would personally be much more upset about being anal raped as opposed to someone stealing my identity or kicking my ass. That's just me though and obviously you feel otherwise. I am very much in the camp that rapists and child molesters should be eligible for the death penalty.


RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:40:36 PM , Rating: 5
No doubt. Obviously not well thought out by our friend. I have had my ass kicked a few times and that's ok with me-makes for some funny stories. Had I been raped, I doubt I'd joke about it.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 1:05:42 PM , Rating: 5
s-t-I-g-m-a

It's not "a few minutes" of pain as you state. If you have really met 3 women (you tip off your age by calling them girls) who have been raped and are ok, that's good and I'm happy for them. Please don't take their lucky outcomes and try to make a case that rape is not so bad-you really cannot win that one and you're just typing to read your own words at that point because frankly it insults your own intelligence.

Sound like with your concerns about ID theft you should get Lifelock. ID theft is a royal pain, but as it's become more common law enforcement, lenders, and everybody else in commerce has moved to change practices and it is not as common to have the nightmare you're describing as it would seem.

I again refer to the fact that physical things can be replaced. If you're that closely tied to your car or your house over your sense of safety and the world being trustworthy then Maslow would have loved to meet you before publishing his theories.

Bottom line is it's not like you're just going to be walking to work, get raped, pick up your pants and get there 5 minutes late and be like, "Yeah, sorry I'm late. Got raped on the way. Ummm, donuts!" It's ridiculous to debate that point.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By HeelyJoe on 1/27/2009 3:31:47 PM , Rating: 4
What are you even talking about? Why would you think without emotion when you are thinking about a situation that is traumatic primarily because of emotion?

Emotions can't be controlled by logic. Get over it and move on.


RE: That's It?
By MrX8503 on 1/27/2009 3:36:02 PM , Rating: 3
"Once again, too much emphasis is put on emotion. For the most part a worthless thing causing poor decisions and screwing up many a life. It has it's occasional benefits, but they seem to be few and far between by comparison."

What is life without emotion? You seem to be satisfied with material things void of any kind of human emotion. You are human correct? The human mind is quite complex and isn't as black/white as you make it seem to be.

I can guarantee you that if you talk to a rape victim I'm pretty sure its not going to be black/white. You just don't get over it the next day as if you lost your ipod or something.
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Once again, too much emphasis is put on emotion. For the most part a worthless thing causing poor decisions and screwing up many a life. It has it's occasional benefits, but they seem to be few and far between by comparison.
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Once again, too much emphasis is put on emotion. For the most part a worthless thing causing poor decisions and screwing up many a life. It has it's occasional benefits, but they seem to be few and far between by comparison.
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RE: That's It?
By fraks on 1/27/2009 3:54:16 PM , Rating: 3
Guys, Gsuz666 obvioulsy has some sort of chip on his shoulder and equates all "right and wrong" with his anger with or at religion (based on name alone and snippets taken from his posts)... unstable dude... no sense in engaging him.


RE: That's It?
By Parhel on 1/27/2009 4:50:02 PM , Rating: 4
If you looked at the several unflattering comments he's made about his mother (which no real man would publicly say regardless of what his mother is like) it's very likely that the chip on his shoulder is rooted in his relationship with her.

The religion thing, like the rape thing, is just your usual troll material. Trolls say anything at all to get a rise out of people. They don't really believe what they say, but they are addicted to feeling they get from making others angry. Based on the style, timing and frequency of his posts I'm convinced that this is the same person who posts under the name Pirks.


RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 1:06:38 PM , Rating: 3
I think you've spent too much time listening to pay-to-protect-your-credit advertisements. There are several steps that can be taken to prevent everything you just described, particularly if you know that your information has been stolen. What you described is much more common in cases that the victim is unaware that their information has been compromised and the thief has ample time to exploit the information.

Regardless, I'm not going to bother arguing with you. You are obviously incorrigible and I truly believe you speak mostly out of ignorance and I hope that you never have to test your beliefs in a real life situation. We will simply have to agree to disagree on this topic.


RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 1:18:55 PM , Rating: 2
I like the high road. High road is good.


RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 1:28:01 PM , Rating: 2
Well, to continue down the road we were on would inevitably have led to a pointless flame war. I enjoy a good debate, but there is no middle ground in this case.


RE: That's It?
By Griff726 on 1/27/2009 12:36:57 PM , Rating: 3
I propose an experiment. Let's have a well hung gentleman penetrate gzus666 in the mouth and anus and see if he still feels the same way. I highly doubt it.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 1:22:15 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I see rape as less annoying to get my life back together from. Maybe because I'm not a homophobe retard like you. You crap out your anus frequently, it isn't like nothing ever moves through that hole.


Truly an impressive look into the extremes of human thought.

Impressive, and yet so deeply disturbing.

I used to think you had at least brain-one on your shoulders G. From now on I will have very little desire to debate with you.

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/2009 1:40:04 PM , Rating: 2
Well said Suntan. I couldn't agree more.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 2:34:14 PM , Rating: 3
It was "subjective" to think that all of Germany's problems were the result of the Jews...

It is "subjective" to think that all black people are lazy bums that sit on their front porches...

It is "subjective" to say that being forcibly sodomized against your will by a stranger is akin to taking a #2 in the bathroom...

Doesn't mean I can find much common ground with people that have these feelings.

You're certainly free to have the feelings you do, as am I free to have both the feelings of disgust and sympathy for you.

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 2:52:35 PM , Rating: 2
I didn’t comment at all about your personal little ranking system.

As for what you said and how it relates to racists and dictators, my point was that all of those are points of view that I can not condone as merely a “difference of subjective opinion.”

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 3:00:49 PM , Rating: 1
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As for what you said and how it relates to racists and dictators, my point was that all of those are points of view that I can not condone as merely a “difference of subjective opinion.”


No, it was an attempt to discount the person you are speaking to by comparing them to something that is pretty much universally despised.

A legit comparison to this would be if we were arguing which hurts more, getting shot in the leg or the arm. Just cause I might think arm and you leg doesn't mean either of us are all for people being shot. Comparing someone's opinion of something deplorable being lower on the ranking than another deplorable act is not comparable to something universally hated and known to be bad.

I see the game you are playing, especially with your cute little "disgust and sympathy" comment. You are disgusted that I am less bothered by rape than theft and murder? You have sympathy for the same thing?

It is a difference of opinion that still means we agree that all of them are not good things. Stop pretending you are the moral high ground and somehow above me.


RE: That's It?
By bmeanleet on 1/27/2009 3:19:00 PM , Rating: 2
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As for what you said and how it relates to racists and dictators, my point was that all of those are points of view that I can not condone as merely a “difference of subjective opinion


Well Said.

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No, it was an attempt to discount the person you are speaking to by comparing them to something that is pretty much universally despised.


Personally the way i read it he was not trying to discount you by comparing to things that are EQUALLY despised. you think that murder or rape is hated less than anything that suntan stated?


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 3:29:54 PM , Rating: 1
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Personally the way i read it he was not trying to discount you by comparing to things that are EQUALLY despised. you think that murder or rape is hated less than anything that suntan stated?


When did I say any of them were fantastic and fun? I didn't condone any of them, merely reordered them in my list of what I feel should be punished the hardest. The problem is he decided my reordering opinion was equivalent to being a murderous dictator or a racist.


RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 3:59:33 PM , Rating: 2
Look dude, you are totally missing the point. It isn’t about comparisons. It isn’t about which is better or worse, it isn’t about arms vs. legs and it isn’t about rape vs. theft vs. murder. It is about you being rather disconnected from the norms of your environment.

Once again, so that you don’t stray too far from the point, you stated:

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I see rape as less annoying to get my life back together from. Maybe because I'm not a homophobe retard like you. You crap out your anus frequently, it isn't like nothing ever moves through that hole.


I shouldn’t have to break it down, but you don’t seem to understand the reason why people are treating you like a mental pariah.

First off, say a rape would be “less *annoying*?” Sorry, but that shows a rather large disconnect for the severity of the trauma. If you’re just playing it down to come of as a tough guy, that’s one thing, but if you really feel that way, I would hazard to guess you have a screw loose.

I won’t say much about the homo comment. Although to think that homosexuality has any impact on a person’s aversion to being raped is, again, a disturbing disconnect between yourself and the rest of society.

Lastly, the idea that “poop comes out” so being sodomized must not be too big of a deal is just plan weird and disturbing. Even when being discussed in a setting like a web forum overrun by adolescents.

-Suntan


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