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Man stabbed wife to death after she change marital status to single on Facebook

Social networking sites are hubs for people from all over the world, from all races and of both sexes. The sites are used to keep in touch with friends, family and to find new friends. The popular social networking sites have had their problems though.

One of the most popular of the social networking site is Facebook. Facebook has been at the center of more than one controversy, the most recent being the removal of images of mothers breast feeding from the site.

Breastfeeding mothers may or may not be disturbing to most users of the site, but one thing that is universally disturbing for Facebook is when the site is flash point for a serious crime. A man named Edward Richardson from Staffordshire England was enraged by something his estranged wife posted on Facebook.

The man found that his wife had changed her status from married to single on the site and became enraged. After trying to contact his estranged wife via text messages and getting no response, Richardson traveled to the home of his wife's parents, where she had been staying.

He then broke a window out of the front door, entered the home and killed the woman in what is being called a "frenzied and brutal attack". After killing his wife, the man attempted to take his own life but failed to do so.

Richardson was sentenced to 18 years in prison recently for the brutal murder. Detective Inspector Andy Wall said, "She had decided that her marriage to Edward Richardson was over but this was clearly something he could not accept. The consequence was that Sarah lost her life in a brutal attack at her husband's hands in her family home. The verdict cannot bring Sarah back but we hope that it gives her family some form of comfort."



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That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 10:45:21 AM , Rating: 5
18 years? Seriously? This country really needs to pull it's head out of it's ass.




RE: That's It?
By Motoman on 1/27/2009 10:47:18 AM , Rating: 5
Yup. Shoot him. Now.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 10:50:24 AM , Rating: 5
Shotgun slug would be a whole lot cheaper than keeping him in prison. It's not like this was an accident, he willfully went in for no real reason and killed her.


RE: That's It?
By DASQ on 1/27/2009 11:31:25 AM , Rating: 5
Shotgun slugs cost a fortune compared to .22LR


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 11:32:51 AM , Rating: 5
I'm trying to be humane here. Shotgun slug to the head is pretty much dead before you even have time to register it, especially at close range. .22LR, well that is a crap shoot.


RE: That's It?
By Motoman on 1/27/2009 11:37:20 AM , Rating: 5
Throw him off a bridge. Good fun, right up to the end.


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 12:57:22 PM , Rating: 5
Golden.

You know though, if we're gonna go with fun, you should strap a firecracker or two to his nuts. That way you get a two-for-one, his embarassment of having his nuts cooked off and a pretty light display :-)

But that wouldn't be humane, now would it? heh


RE: That's It?
By Motoman on 1/27/2009 2:41:05 PM , Rating: 3
Er, well, I was thinking that being thrown off the bridge would be fun for *him* right up to the very end. In as much as it can be fun to be "flying." As they say, it's not the fall that kills you...


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 2:48:15 PM , Rating: 5
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You know though, if we're gonna go with fun, you should strap a firecracker or two to his nuts. That way you get a two-for-one, his embarassment of having his nuts cooked off and a pretty light display :-)


Why don't we just go back to medieval torture? Clearly you get enjoyment from the suffering of others, so you might as well go all the way, right?

How do you condemn a guy for murder, then get enjoyment from thinking about sick things you would do to a guy?

Mine was in aim to be quick and painless and clear out someone who really doesn't deserve life at that point. Torturing the guy does nothing but take away rights and make you as bad as him.


RE: That's It?
By VashHT on 1/27/2009 3:42:30 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously some people have no problem lowering themselves to the level of those that they condemn...


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:02:58 PM , Rating: 3
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Why no torture?


Because punishment is not meant for your pleasure, it is meant to hopefully correct or clean up society. Removing the murderer from society stops future murders that he may commit as he is obviously willing for trivial reasons in this case. Torturing him is pointless beyond your sick enjoyment. It is no different than the sickos who torture animals. You are just as bad, you just think you are better.

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The guy deserves to feel pain, how much pain do yout hink he has caused for everyone of his wifes family members? Putting a simple bullet in his head wont show him the true pain caused by his actions.


Solves absolutely nothing. Doesn't fix the problem and is a huge waste of time to boot. Bullet is cheap, efficient and treating him better than he may have treated someone else. We are not barbarians, if you condone that behavior, I'm sure the Middle East would be more than happy to take your crazy ass.

The bottom line is you want to torture people without consequences, but you can't unless you have a decent reason. You are just as sick, you just realize the consequences are too high, so you try to find a loophole.


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 5:22:17 PM , Rating: 3
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your crazy ass.


Oh believe me, not the first time I have been told that, most definately not the last.

quote:
The bottom line is you want to torture people without consequences, but you can't unless you have a decent reason. You are just as sick, you just realize the consequences are too high, so you try to find a loophole.


I also realize I am too cynical and too cold hearted sometimes for my own good because of a few life experiences.

But you people that are humane, I guess you still justify swabbing an inmates arm with alcohol before the lethal injection goes into thier arms? Now tell me that isn't a huge waste.

I enjoy chaos in general, whether I am apart of it or not. Let me enjoy it while you all fret over it.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:49:44 PM , Rating: 2
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I also realize I am too cynical and too cold hearted sometimes for my own good because of a few life experiences.


No, you are just a jackass, big difference. What you don't understand is if you are killing someone, it "teaches" them absolutely nothing to torture them first. It is merely a way for you to get arousal and excitement.

quote:
But you people that are humane, I guess you still justify swabbing an inmates arm with alcohol before the lethal injection goes into thier arms? Now tell me that isn't a huge waste.


Lethal injection is actually not a great way to go, they consider it painless, but they say there are plenty of times it is quite painful but since it seizes the body, you can't hear it. Swabbing the arm really is just a medical habit most likely, as any germs wouldn't really begin to become a problem in an injection site till the next day or at least many hours later.

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I enjoy chaos in general, whether I am apart of it or not. Let me enjoy it while you all fret over it.


No, you merely enjoy the pain of others. One day you may find yourself on the wrong side of that system and I'm sure you will fight not to be killed or tortured. If it were truly chaos, most likely you wouldn't be so happy about it, especially if you found yourself against multiple people who have the same intentions as yourself.


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 6:29:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No, you are just a jackass.


That I am. No doubt about it.

quote:
What you don't understand is if you are killing someone, it "teaches" them absolutely nothing to torture them first. It is merely a way for you to get arousal and excitement.


It may not teach them anything but they, in thier last moments of life, will show absolute fear.

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No, you merely enjoy the pain of others.


If I enjoyed the pain of others, I would be in a position in life with more power so I can take advantage of that power to cause pain.

I just believe in eye for an eye...


RE: That's It?
By Baov on 1/27/2009 10:21:40 PM , Rating: 2
An eye for an eye is about taking, not giving.


RE: That's It?
By plonk420 on 1/27/2009 10:49:05 PM , Rating: 2
quality humans this Saw generation has created...


RE: That's It?
By masher2 (blog) on 1/27/2009 5:10:10 PM , Rating: 2
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Any man that even lays a finger on a woman, child or animal (Micheal Vick anyone?) needs to be tortured and then shot.
I was with you right up to the Vick part. As much as I like dogs, they're still just animals. The death penalty for "laying a finger on an animal" is ludicrous.

Somehow, I suspect by "animals", you mean "only the fuzzy, cute animals". Should someone be a convicted felon for killing a rat in his house? Or a host of cockroaches (yes, they're animals also). What about a feral cat that's killing endangered bird species? Or the lice in a child's head of hair?


RE: That's It?
By Crysalis99 on 1/27/2009 5:27:17 PM , Rating: 3
Heh, I shoulda forseen someone looking right past that one. You got me there, to a degree.

But I didnt nec. mean just the cute fuzzy animals. What I meant more or less by that is anyone who attacks any kind of animal (aren't cockroaches an insect?) with malicious intent (and by that, an intent out of anger or enjoyment or just plain old cruel nature).

It is one thing to kill rat because it is bothering your family but a whole other to kill it to get your jollies off.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:39:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It is one thing to kill rat because it is bothering your family but a whole other to kill it to get your jollies off.


Directly contradicting your previous statement of wanting to torture, don't you think?


RE: That's It?
By theapparition on 1/27/2009 5:44:45 PM , Rating: 2
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As much as I like dogs, they're still just animals. Somehow, I suspect by "animals", you mean "only the fuzzy, cute animals". Should someone be a convicted felon for killing a rat in his house? Or a host of cockroaches (yes, they're animals also).

And we’re different? Homo sapiens are also just animals. I don’t see why you should stop the differentiation right there.
Clearly, the OP meant to convey that someone who takes pleasure out of torturing “fuzzy, cute” animals is in the need of serious rehabilitation (or removal from society). It is no coincidence that many violent offenders have a history of animal abuse leading back to childhood. It is this callous lack of compassion for other living animal companions that is indicative of psychopathic behavior.

Death penalty is perhaps too harsh. But the current levels of punishment for animal abuse are far too lax.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 5:53:44 PM , Rating: 3
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And we’re different? Homo sapiens are also just animals. I don’t see why you should stop the differentiation right there.


Very true, we are merely primates. Our certain traits have put us high in the pecking order, but we are animals none the less.

I agree that torturing any animal is despicable, killing on the other hand I usually take no issue with as long as it has good reason and is done as humanely as possible.

Also, yes, the punishment at the very least should include psychological treatment for sure to determine if they are even able to be rehabilitated.


RE: That's It?
By Parhel on 1/27/2009 6:31:42 PM , Rating: 2
If we're no different, than eating a steak or going hunting would be the moral equivalent of shooting one's wife. Or, more to the point, it would be OK as long as one ate her afterwards.


RE: That's It?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/27/2009 5:42:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
How do you condemn a guy for murder, then get enjoyment from thinking about sick things you would do to a guy?


Easily.


RE: That's It?
By Rob94hawk on 1/27/2009 9:51:46 PM , Rating: 1
People like you are the reason this country's prisons are filled will psycho murderers. After they brutally murder someone they know they are going to get pampered and fed for their entire length of their sentence.

I hate bleeding heart liberals like you. If rehab actually worked we wouldn't have repeat offenders.


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/28/2009 3:16:01 AM , Rating: 2
lol


RE: That's It?
By MisterChristopher on 1/28/2009 5:09:53 AM , Rating: 2
It is pretty easy to condemn this person for murder and then wish the same upon him. This was horrific and brutal. He deserves no less. Actually he deserves more considering that in taking that persons life, he hurt a lot of other people by taking a cherished person away from those who loved her. His suffering should be at least more than the suffering of those that he affected with his actions.

Of course here in America, people have freedom from cruel and unusual punishment (except enemy combatants). So, clearly the best punishment in this case is a quick humane execution.


RE: That's It?
By Samus on 1/28/2009 3:24:50 PM , Rating: 3
I'd make throwing him off a bridge a televised event. Even those not ready Feb 17th can tune in!


RE: That's It?
By ThisSpaceForRent on 1/27/2009 1:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
If you shot him in the back of the head you'd be good to go. Shooting him in the face may or may not be fatal, even at point blank range.


RE: That's It?
By dgingeri on 1/27/2009 6:23:05 PM , Rating: 2
I got a better idea: (one stolen from Larry Niven) for criminals like this, put them under as for a surgical procedure, then take them apart. We have far too many people in this country needing organs, and people like this need to be put down for the sake of civilization. Why not use these criminals as organ donors?


RE: That's It?
By Nexos on 1/28/2009 6:14:56 AM , Rating: 3
The chinese have been doing that for quite some time now.


RE: That's It?
By fictisiousname on 1/28/2009 10:11:15 AM , Rating: 2
"I'm trying to be humane here. Shotgun slug to the head is pretty much dead before you even have time to register it, especially at close range. .22LR, well that is a crap shoot"

True. Yet some people apparently have crap for brains, eh? ;-)


RE: That's It?
By HelToupee on 1/28/2009 9:30:45 AM , Rating: 2
Nah. Captive-bolt gun.


RE: That's It?
By timmiser on 1/28/2009 8:58:26 PM , Rating: 2
How about that thing from No Country for Old Men?


RE: That's It?
By SpaceJumper on 1/27/2009 11:12:39 AM , Rating: 2
I agree 100%


RE: That's It?
By FaceMaster on 1/27/2009 10:52:47 AM , Rating: 2
I still don't get why some one who loves another person would kill them. Oh well.


RE: That's It?
By Moishe on 1/27/2009 11:03:00 AM , Rating: 5
Cuz it's not love.

The dude is obviously pretty "off" in the head and has no business being in society.


RE: That's It?
By SlipDizzy on 1/27/2009 11:02:15 AM , Rating: 4
So not only is this guy a murderer, but also a failure. I agree with Gzus666, its a lot cheaper to just shoot him now then to leave him in our jail systems.

18 years?!?! Don't people get more years for selling drugs?


RE: That's It?
By JonnyBlaze on 1/27/2009 11:35:57 AM , Rating: 2
yep. i know someone right now facing 15 years for a drug charge


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/27/2009 11:47:53 AM , Rating: 2
How many people did that kill?

*ding*


RE: That's It?
By Raidin on 1/27/2009 12:37:40 PM , Rating: 4
People who bought the drugs did it knowingly, and then used them knowingly (most likely). You can't be blamed, or charged, for deaths of your clients.

They don't put gun store owners in jail when the customers kill themselves or others with the guns they bought, even if the gun sale was illegal.


RE: That's It?
By on 1/27/2009 12:48:09 PM , Rating: 2
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You'll f1nish me.


RE: That's It?
By wordsworm on 1/27/2009 12:59:56 PM , Rating: 4
By that logic, people who sell cigarettes should also be put into prison. Then there are cars, guns, and knives, to name but a few.

Drugs are a choice, the man is just a supplier making a living. Shouldn't be a crime at all.


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/28/2009 3:14:03 AM , Rating: 2
the *ding* was because the answer was probably zero.


RE: That's It?
By ira176 on 1/28/2009 12:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately, due to the money making opportunities, and that competative nature of the illicit drug business, people are being shot and stabbed to death all the time.


RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 12:35:49 PM , Rating: 2
18<15 ...???

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By mmntech on 1/27/2009 11:03:12 AM , Rating: 3
It depends on the mitigating circumstances of the crime. It was second degree murder and "crimes of passion" is a legitimate legal defence under common law. Other things factor into sentencing as well, such as past criminal history, if the accused was prone to violence, and victim impact statements.

I do agree though that 18 years does seem a little lenient. Typically, a case like this would get 25 years without parole. Still, I've seen criminals get less for greater crimes. Sounds like this guy obviously has mental issues. Hopefully he'll get some counselling before they release him.


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/27/2009 11:50:51 AM , Rating: 2
Well we don't know what, if anything, she did to him either, not that anything (except perhaps her trying to kill HIM) would excuse what he did. The world is not black and white, however.


RE: That's It?
By Ard on 1/27/2009 12:16:22 PM , Rating: 2
I was thinking the same thing, though at common law the defense of "heat of passion" only applied if a husband literally caught his wife having sex with another man. Nothing else could satisfy that defense. Given that that's not the case here, I'd imagine the defense managed to convince the jury that voluntary manslaughter was more appropriate than first degree murder, which is why the sentence seems so light.


RE: That's It?
By arazok on 1/27/2009 11:17:04 AM , Rating: 5
Compared to the rest of the world, Americans have very stiff sentences. I had a friend who got stabbed 3 times by some piece of crap a few years ago. The guy got 6 months. I don’t think you would see that in America. Pot heads get 25 in some states.

I’d bet that this guy would get 10 years in Canada for this crime, and he’d be out in 6. I’d agree that 18 years is short for murder, but it’s no picnic.

The one thing I’ll never understand is why no country in the world treats pedophiles like the true pieces of crap that they are. I don’t know one person who doesn’t regard these people as worse than murderers, yet no country seems to lock them up for any significant amount of time.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By Ard on 1/27/2009 12:14:11 PM , Rating: 5
Rape is far more than mere assault and the damage it causes isn't just simple emotional harm. To characterize rape in that manner trivializes just how serious it is. especially the rape of a child. Would I rank pedophilia/rape higher than murder? No, but it's a pretty damn close second in my book. There's no excuse for any crime but you can't honestly sit there and tell me that the loss of money and material items, which you can get returned, can even begin to compare to the rape, and violation, of a woman or child.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:33:21 PM , Rating: 5
You're obviously not familiar with what you call "mental anguish" and that it "only affects you as much as you let it."

Read up on post-traumatic stress disorder. And before you call the affected weak, remember that it's equally likely to occur to a rape victim, a GI, a Ranger/Seal, or anybody else exposed to truly brutal circumstances.

PS-It's not just ladies who get raped. I'd imagine a male rape victim would be at least as likely to suffer from PTSD after a rape as a female would.

Fact is rape is neither about the physical violation or the gratification of the perp. It is purely about power and security. Once you've experienced that level of insecurity it's hard to recover. For anybody. Normal doesn't feel safe anymore and when normal |= safe a person tends to have trouble.

Knowing the general sentiment of many posters here, I should probably just have kept all the real knowledge and education on the sideline rather than try to expose the unwilling to the facts, but oh well. Flame on, undereducated college-age male hardasses!


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:53:43 PM , Rating: 5
I can't believe you think theft is worse than rape. Thefts are often recovered, and when they're not the victim is awarded restitution (though it's often not paid). Physical things heal and physical things can be replaced-that's where you get screwed up. You think that replaceable things are important because evidently things you can't see have no value. In reality you're exactly bass-ackwards. Physical things have little value because they are widely shown to not correlate with happiness, whereas love, security, and fulfillment are not touchable or replaceable but correlate with happiness.

I know that some people don't suffer from PTSD even though they were exposed to the same stimuli-that's a very interesting and current field of research right now. Hopefully it can be figured out and translated into treatment modalities that help those who are affected. One thing that I can tell you is likely to not be born out as the reason: because they decided to be OK. If that's the reason that PTSD doesn't work the same in every case I'll stop posting here forever. There's no doubt that PTSD can be exacerbated by people fixating on and being obsessed with their troubles. However, that doesn't change the initial circumstances and it does not cause the PTSD, it worsens symptoms.

The comment about assaults and thefts leading to similar symptoms is both true and misleading. Both of those can be related to similar symptoms. However, there are degrees of affectedness, and it would be really unusual to see a person who had a purse snatched or who got sucker-punched in a bar have the same sorts of difficulties as a rape victim.


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 1:16:08 PM , Rating: 3
Thanks for the compliment. Sorry about the insult, I should have just gone with "*dons asbestos hat*". :)


RE: That's It?
By Myg on 1/27/2009 12:37:22 PM , Rating: 5
Just being brutally honest here.

If you don't sort your head out with what is real and what isn't. One of these articles might be about you one day...


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/28/2009 3:19:26 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
There's no excuse for any crime


That's not explicitly true. I will continuee to smoke the herb.

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can even begin to compare to the rape, and violation, of a woman or child.


or a man!


RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 12:19:31 PM , Rating: 5
Walk down a dark alley and have a guy hold you down while another beats you and steals your wallet.

Then...

Walk down a dark alley and have a guy hold you down while another rapes you.

I bet you change your rankings after that.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 12:36:45 PM , Rating: 5
Well, I would personally be much more upset about being anal raped as opposed to someone stealing my identity or kicking my ass. That's just me though and obviously you feel otherwise. I am very much in the camp that rapists and child molesters should be eligible for the death penalty.


RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:40:36 PM , Rating: 5
No doubt. Obviously not well thought out by our friend. I have had my ass kicked a few times and that's ok with me-makes for some funny stories. Had I been raped, I doubt I'd joke about it.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 1:05:42 PM , Rating: 5
s-t-I-g-m-a

It's not "a few minutes" of pain as you state. If you have really met 3 women (you tip off your age by calling them girls) who have been raped and are ok, that's good and I'm happy for them. Please don't take their lucky outcomes and try to make a case that rape is not so bad-you really cannot win that one and you're just typing to read your own words at that point because frankly it insults your own intelligence.

Sound like with your concerns about ID theft you should get Lifelock. ID theft is a royal pain, but as it's become more common law enforcement, lenders, and everybody else in commerce has moved to change practices and it is not as common to have the nightmare you're describing as it would seem.

I again refer to the fact that physical things can be replaced. If you're that closely tied to your car or your house over your sense of safety and the world being trustworthy then Maslow would have loved to meet you before publishing his theories.

Bottom line is it's not like you're just going to be walking to work, get raped, pick up your pants and get there 5 minutes late and be like, "Yeah, sorry I'm late. Got raped on the way. Ummm, donuts!" It's ridiculous to debate that point.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By HeelyJoe on 1/27/2009 3:31:47 PM , Rating: 4
What are you even talking about? Why would you think without emotion when you are thinking about a situation that is traumatic primarily because of emotion?

Emotions can't be controlled by logic. Get over it and move on.


RE: That's It?
By MrX8503 on 1/27/2009 3:36:02 PM , Rating: 3
"Once again, too much emphasis is put on emotion. For the most part a worthless thing causing poor decisions and screwing up many a life. It has it's occasional benefits, but they seem to be few and far between by comparison."

What is life without emotion? You seem to be satisfied with material things void of any kind of human emotion. You are human correct? The human mind is quite complex and isn't as black/white as you make it seem to be.

I can guarantee you that if you talk to a rape victim I'm pretty sure its not going to be black/white. You just don't get over it the next day as if you lost your ipod or something.
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Once again, too much emphasis is put on emotion. For the most part a worthless thing causing poor decisions and screwing up many a life. It has it's occasional benefits, but they seem to be few and far between by comparison.
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Once again, too much emphasis is put on emotion. For the most part a worthless thing causing poor decisions and screwing up many a life. It has it's occasional benefits, but they seem to be few and far between by comparison.
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RE: That's It?
By fraks on 1/27/2009 3:54:16 PM , Rating: 3
Guys, Gsuz666 obvioulsy has some sort of chip on his shoulder and equates all "right and wrong" with his anger with or at religion (based on name alone and snippets taken from his posts)... unstable dude... no sense in engaging him.


RE: That's It?
By Parhel on 1/27/2009 4:50:02 PM , Rating: 4
If you looked at the several unflattering comments he's made about his mother (which no real man would publicly say regardless of what his mother is like) it's very likely that the chip on his shoulder is rooted in his relationship with her.

The religion thing, like the rape thing, is just your usual troll material. Trolls say anything at all to get a rise out of people. They don't really believe what they say, but they are addicted to feeling they get from making others angry. Based on the style, timing and frequency of his posts I'm convinced that this is the same person who posts under the name Pirks.


RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 1:06:38 PM , Rating: 3
I think you've spent too much time listening to pay-to-protect-your-credit advertisements. There are several steps that can be taken to prevent everything you just described, particularly if you know that your information has been stolen. What you described is much more common in cases that the victim is unaware that their information has been compromised and the thief has ample time to exploit the information.

Regardless, I'm not going to bother arguing with you. You are obviously incorrigible and I truly believe you speak mostly out of ignorance and I hope that you never have to test your beliefs in a real life situation. We will simply have to agree to disagree on this topic.


RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 1:18:55 PM , Rating: 2
I like the high road. High road is good.


RE: That's It?
By mholler on 1/27/2009 1:28:01 PM , Rating: 2
Well, to continue down the road we were on would inevitably have led to a pointless flame war. I enjoy a good debate, but there is no middle ground in this case.


RE: That's It?
By Griff726 on 1/27/2009 12:36:57 PM , Rating: 3
I propose an experiment. Let's have a well hung gentleman penetrate gzus666 in the mouth and anus and see if he still feels the same way. I highly doubt it.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 1:22:15 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I see rape as less annoying to get my life back together from. Maybe because I'm not a homophobe retard like you. You crap out your anus frequently, it isn't like nothing ever moves through that hole.


Truly an impressive look into the extremes of human thought.

Impressive, and yet so deeply disturbing.

I used to think you had at least brain-one on your shoulders G. From now on I will have very little desire to debate with you.

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/2009 1:40:04 PM , Rating: 2
Well said Suntan. I couldn't agree more.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 2:34:14 PM , Rating: 3
It was "subjective" to think that all of Germany's problems were the result of the Jews...

It is "subjective" to think that all black people are lazy bums that sit on their front porches...

It is "subjective" to say that being forcibly sodomized against your will by a stranger is akin to taking a #2 in the bathroom...

Doesn't mean I can find much common ground with people that have these feelings.

You're certainly free to have the feelings you do, as am I free to have both the feelings of disgust and sympathy for you.

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 2:52:35 PM , Rating: 2
I didn’t comment at all about your personal little ranking system.

As for what you said and how it relates to racists and dictators, my point was that all of those are points of view that I can not condone as merely a “difference of subjective opinion.”

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 3:00:49 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
As for what you said and how it relates to racists and dictators, my point was that all of those are points of view that I can not condone as merely a “difference of subjective opinion.”


No, it was an attempt to discount the person you are speaking to by comparing them to something that is pretty much universally despised.

A legit comparison to this would be if we were arguing which hurts more, getting shot in the leg or the arm. Just cause I might think arm and you leg doesn't mean either of us are all for people being shot. Comparing someone's opinion of something deplorable being lower on the ranking than another deplorable act is not comparable to something universally hated and known to be bad.

I see the game you are playing, especially with your cute little "disgust and sympathy" comment. You are disgusted that I am less bothered by rape than theft and murder? You have sympathy for the same thing?

It is a difference of opinion that still means we agree that all of them are not good things. Stop pretending you are the moral high ground and somehow above me.


RE: That's It?
By bmeanleet on 1/27/2009 3:19:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
As for what you said and how it relates to racists and dictators, my point was that all of those are points of view that I can not condone as merely a “difference of subjective opinion


Well Said.

quote:
No, it was an attempt to discount the person you are speaking to by comparing them to something that is pretty much universally despised.


Personally the way i read it he was not trying to discount you by comparing to things that are EQUALLY despised. you think that murder or rape is hated less than anything that suntan stated?


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 3:29:54 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Personally the way i read it he was not trying to discount you by comparing to things that are EQUALLY despised. you think that murder or rape is hated less than anything that suntan stated?


When did I say any of them were fantastic and fun? I didn't condone any of them, merely reordered them in my list of what I feel should be punished the hardest. The problem is he decided my reordering opinion was equivalent to being a murderous dictator or a racist.


RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 3:59:33 PM , Rating: 2
Look dude, you are totally missing the point. It isn’t about comparisons. It isn’t about which is better or worse, it isn’t about arms vs. legs and it isn’t about rape vs. theft vs. murder. It is about you being rather disconnected from the norms of your environment.

Once again, so that you don’t stray too far from the point, you stated:

quote:
I see rape as less annoying to get my life back together from. Maybe because I'm not a homophobe retard like you. You crap out your anus frequently, it isn't like nothing ever moves through that hole.


I shouldn’t have to break it down, but you don’t seem to understand the reason why people are treating you like a mental pariah.

First off, say a rape would be “less *annoying*?” Sorry, but that shows a rather large disconnect for the severity of the trauma. If you’re just playing it down to come of as a tough guy, that’s one thing, but if you really feel that way, I would hazard to guess you have a screw loose.

I won’t say much about the homo comment. Although to think that homosexuality has any impact on a person’s aversion to being raped is, again, a disturbing disconnect between yourself and the rest of society.

Lastly, the idea that “poop comes out” so being sodomized must not be too big of a deal is just plan weird and disturbing. Even when being discussed in a setting like a web forum overrun by adolescents.

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 4:17:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Look dude, you are totally missing the point. It isn’t about comparisons


It was about comparisons just a few posts ago, but now it's not? Once again, it is a matter of which one is worse on our list. Depending where you rank rape, murder and theft is an opinion and has nothing to do with condoning any of them.

quote:
First off, say a rape would be “less *annoying*?” Sorry, but that shows a rather large disconnect for the severity of the trauma. If you’re just playing it down to come of as a tough guy, that’s one thing, but if you really feel that way, I would hazard to guess you have a screw loose.


So the wording bothers you? That seems odd to me. Would replacing "annoying" with "horrible" make it better for you? To me it means the same thing, it is a comparison of ranking, the wording I chose to define it should have no real impact in that case. I could have said "less peachy" it is still a just a comparison. I say annoying all the time for crappy situations, just how I speak at times.

quote:
I won’t say much about the homo comment. Although to think that homosexuality has any impact on a person’s aversion to being raped is, again, a disturbing disconnect between yourself and the rest of society.


Right, cause if he was raped by a woman I'm sure he would be traumatized for life. Most men welcome this. Look at the kid that was nailing his teacher, had that been a male teacher and female student they would want the teacher hung. But since it is the other way around, most people said "lucky kid". Now if it was a male teacher and male student, they would be even more grossed out, mainly cause of a natural aversion to homosexuals. Does it make sense? Not to me.

quote:
Lastly, the idea that “poop comes out” so being sodomized must not be too big of a deal is just plan weird and disturbing. Even when being discussed in a setting like a web forum overrun by adolescents.


Well, in comparison to possibly being maimed, killed, beaten or robbed, I'm not really that concerned.


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/2009 5:02:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Right, cause if he was raped by a woman I'm sure he would be traumatized for life. Most men welcome this. Look at the kid that was nailing his teacher, had that been a male teacher and female student they would want the teacher hung. But since it is the other way around, most people said "lucky kid". Now if it was a male teacher and male student, they would be even more grossed out, mainly cause of a natural aversion to homosexuals. Does it make sense? Not to me.
A high school male (who wants nothing more than to have sex with anyone) having sex with his teacher is very, very different than what's being discussed in this thread. We're not talking about statutory rape, we're talking about non-consensual, forced sex. That's not something any male, female, homosexual or heterosexual person "welcomes".


RE: That's It?
By Suntan on 1/27/2009 5:05:34 PM , Rating: 2
You spend too much time arguing with other people about what you think they said and not enough time listening to what people are actually saying to you.

I am not going to go on further with this. The statements you have made make you out to be a socially disturbed person. You can justify it any way you want. You can continue to try and claim I have said things I have not. It doesn’t change the fact that based on the comments you have made, you come off as a rather messed up individual with a very sad disassociation to reality.

I'm out.

-Suntan


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/2009 1:24:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Maybe because I'm not a homophobe retard like you. You crap out your anus frequently, it isn't like nothing ever moves through that hole.
With any luck, you'll look back at this post in utter disgust. Stick to defending your opinions; attacking others makes you look petty.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 2:24:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
With any luck, you'll look back at this post in utter disgust. Stick to defending your opinions; attacking others makes you look petty.


But proposing rape on someone is fine? Makes sense. So if I merely wished death upon him rather than calling him a homophobe, things would be fine?


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/2009 4:46:28 PM , Rating: 2
I was commenting on your actions/statements, not anyone else's. Furthermore, poor decisions isn't justified by someone else's poor decisions.


RE: That's It?
By ebakke on 1/27/2009 4:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
Bah! *aren't


RE: That's It?
By nixoofta on 1/27/2009 1:54:53 PM , Rating: 2
Let's not forget the crap that comes out of our mouths...:P


RE: That's It?
By Myg on 1/27/2009 12:32:06 PM , Rating: 1
Death is preferred over Rape; yes.

Not for love of violence, nor hate of sex (what stupid assertions; must of grown up in a chat room) Just for the fact that Death is peace and Rape is continued life, just a few thousand times more torturous. Suicide isn't an option; so, that's it really.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 12:36:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Suicide isn't an option; so, that's it really.


Explain why it wouldn't be an option? If it was really that bad, but again, people blowing things out of proportion. Oh golly, the same holes that have been or will be hammered on by someone else got the same treatment forcefully. You get one chance to live, seems like death would suck comparatively.


RE: That's It?
By sgw2n5 on 1/27/2009 3:39:20 PM , Rating: 2
I totally agree with you. Rape is terrible, yes, but there are far worse things that could happen than somebody forcing them self upon your bum.

I would rather be raped by Mike Tyson thrice daily for a solid week than be physically crippled by a mugger or lose an appendage or something along those lines. Yeah, after Mike I would probably slip into a depression or have anxiety attacks for a while, but life goes on.

I had something very terrible happen to me in my childhood, and I think it is a travesty for something bad (that you fully recover from, physically anyway) to mar the rest of your entire life.

I agree, you only have one chance to live. Sometimes, really bad crap happens, but you keep on keepin' on.

Oh, saying that rape is equivocal to murder is completely idiotic. Both the rapist and the murderer are farking scum, but the rapist probably doesn't deserve death, while the murderer does.


RE: That's It?
By technohermit on 1/30/2009 9:25:12 PM , Rating: 2
What about the months of waiting to find out if the rapist had HIV, or some other life-threatening disease? Have you considered that mental anguish? Or say, it's a woman, or worse, a 12-year old girl, and the rapist has HIV, and maybe gets her pregnant too? Is that the same as your wallet getting stolen?
You guys are tools if you think rape<stolen wallet and a punch to the eye.
You see most pedophiles know their victims on a personal level, too, so it ruins the trust of the victim to the point of not even trusting anyone at all. So you wouldn't just go home and sleep it off. Let's say that is the same as your thief now knowing your home address.
However, the mental stress of having your father rape you probably outweighs the chances of a thief causing you pain. Geeze. Not to mention it's probably going to happen over and over until they get caught.


RE: That's It?
By sgw2n5 on 1/27/2009 3:47:43 PM , Rating: 2
Erm, no.

Death is ceasing to exist, nothing is worse than ceasing to exist. Death in no way shape or form is preferred over rape. Both suck tremendously, but once your dead, that's it.


RE: That's It?
By masher2 (blog) on 1/27/2009 5:14:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Death is ceasing to exist, nothing is worse than ceasing to exist
Perhaps you've heard of the phrase, 'death before dishonor'? Many cultures have considered other events to be worse than death. Even today, I'm sure most of us would take death over a lifetime of torture.


RE: That's It?
By sgw2n5 on 1/27/2009 5:27:41 PM , Rating: 2
Well, that's like your opinion, man.

I'd consider death before a life of torture, but more than likely I'd choose the life of torture and either escape or die trying. I don't think I would ever willingly submit to death if any other option were available.

As far as 'death before dishonor' is concerned, I honestly couldn't care less whether other people think I did the honorable thing. Let them do it if it is that important to them. Honor, like everything else, is subjective.

People tend to romanticize death, some even celebrate it. Death is a terrible thing, the worst thing. There likely isn't a magical sky wizard waiting with open arms, there is no eternity of happiness, you don't get your own personal condo up in the clouds when you pass away. When you die, you simply cease to exist. What could possibly be worse?


RE: That's It?
By HeelyJoe on 1/28/2009 4:18:42 PM , Rating: 2
Explain to me how ceasing to exist is bad. How are you planning to care about ceasing to exist after you cease to exist?


RE: That's It?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/27/2009 5:52:37 PM , Rating: 1
After reading this joke of a post on morality and punishment, I find it pretty ironic you see yourself fit to judge the other poster on torturing murderers. Not that I agree with him, but it's clear you don't have it all together upstairs either if you rank thieves higher on the list, or equal to, pedophiles and rapists.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think if you polled people they would rank their child's innocence and virginity a little higher on the list of priorities than an Xbox or a flat panel TV. And I doubt "religion" has anything to do with it.

Damn you're one thick a-hole.


RE: That's It?
By icanhascpu on 1/27/2009 8:14:21 PM , Rating: 1
You and Crysalis99 are a couple of retards.


RE: That's It?
By SpaceJumper on 1/27/2009 11:17:31 AM , Rating: 2
He may get a parole in 5 years.
Send him to China and let him face the firing squad. They will terminate him slowly.


RE: That's It?
By masher2 (blog) on 1/27/2009 11:28:04 AM , Rating: 5
> "This country really needs to pull it's head out of it's ass. "

By the way, this happened in Britain. But in the US, his sentence could well be comparable...with him getting out even sooner due to good behavior.


RE: That's It?
By bighairycamel on 1/27/2009 11:46:43 AM , Rating: 5
Oh, well if he's british the headline should have read...
Balmy chap slotted the missus with a chib and gets time in the reformatory.


RE: That's It?
By menace on 1/27/2009 5:25:04 PM , Rating: 2
heheh

Actually, the British would say "barmy" not "balmy". Balmy is a US definition erroneously derived from barmy. Barmy is the froth from fermenting yeast and a crazy person is stereotypically foaming at the mouth, i.e. barmy.


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 11:50:25 AM , Rating: 1
I wish that was more clear in the article, but yea, it most likely would have been similar here anyway.


RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:37:02 PM , Rating: 2
You wish it would have been more clear?

Staffordshire England is not in Kentucky, you know that right? How could it be more clear than to state the city and country? Read much?


RE: That's It?
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 2:21:53 PM , Rating: 2
I skimmed, missed it.


RE: That's It?
By Steele on 1/27/2009 8:13:31 PM , Rating: 1
THANK YOU!!!!

Masher, I don't usually agree with you much, but THANK YOU! If I were a woman, I'd offer to have your baby right now.

The whole attitude here so far has been:
"Murderer! Let's take a belt sander to his balls!"

"Only 18 years? The US sucks, because this definitely happened in the US because it says so in the article and I'm a douchebag!"

"Lets impale him in the skull with a live swordfish!"

"Wow, I'm not at all surprised that this crime happened in the US because I hate America and legalize drugs because I'm a retard!"

"We should sodomise him with a shop vac!"

"Look, another American committing a crime in America! America sucks! I suck!"

"This douche should forced to give fellatio to a donkey and have his organs harvested and fed to wild pigs!"

"Oh great, another murder in some American town. The guy will only serve like 8 minutes. I'm gonna go skull-fuck myself."

Gawd! READ, PEOPLE!


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/27/2009 11:48:55 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
18 years? Seriously? This country really needs to pull it's head out of it's @ss


trouble is nu labour think their sh!t don't stink.


RE: That's It?
By Aloonatic on 1/27/2009 12:23:18 PM , Rating: 2
The real trouble is that we have a liberal/socialist media (especially the BBC) who are blatantly Nu Labour biased who waste no time attacking the conservative party and try hard to support Labour when they can.

The BBC are still telling us that we are in a "down turn" rarely using the word recession as that is a negative word that people do not like so they are spinning away for Labour. Only "Tory" governments have recessions apparently.

Another case in point, there was a phone in about 4 Labour lords who offered to amend law in return for £120K and they never mentioned that they were Labour lords, only mentioning a party name when comparing the story to a the Tory (another name for the conservative party, often used as an insult these days with historical negative overtones and it's nearly always used by the BBC) cash for questions scandal from the 90s.

As far as the sentencing goes, this is actually a pretty hefty sentence. He'll be out of prison on a tag in 6 or 7 years if he's a good boy. That's if he wants to leave of course, depends on what his situation was like and where he's sent of course. I'm sure he'll be sent to cat 1 prison to start with but after a while he'll be sent to one of the softer prisons and he'll be proficient at Halo X and up to date with all the sport from the satellite TV that is a human right now apparently.


RE: That's It?
By MrPoletski on 1/28/2009 3:26:31 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The real trouble is that we have a liberal/socialist media (especially the BBC) who are blatantly Nu Labour biased who waste no time attacking the conservative party and try hard to support Labour when they can.


Why don't you complain then because the BBC must legally retain impartiality.

Oh and what do you make of the daily mail? good and impartial? lol

quote:
The BBC are still telling us that we are in a "down turn" rarely using the word recession as that is a negative word that people do not like so they are spinning away for Labour. Only "Tory" governments have recessions apparently.


Could that have been because a recession requires two consecutive quarters of GDP contraction?


RE: That's It?
By Aloonatic on 1/28/2009 4:46:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why don't you complain then because the BBC must legally retain impartiality.

You're quite right, it must but it doesn't mean that it will.

You are talking about the BBC who's Director General was replaced when he didn't agree with New Labour and dared to question them over WMDs, which it turns out never did exist. Ever since then they have been a good little state media organisation relying on press releases from New Labour rather than finding things out for themselves.

quote:
Could that have been because a recession requires two consecutive quarters of GDP contraction?


And what have we had? Oh yes, two quarters of contraction, after a quarter of (conveniently) 0% growth too. The last quarter being the worse for 20 odd years. Still, the BBC will often refer to the current financial situation as a "downturn" even though recession was for a long time obviously about to be officially confirmed and virtually inevitable. For some reason the term "downturn" is not one that I remember being used too much in the past in situations like these either.

A lot has to do with the organisation and superior media handling abilities of New Labour over their political competitors. They have recognised that you can do what they like and can be as poor a governing party as they want but as long as they keep the media on a tight leash and control what is let out then they are golden. A little fear in the state broadcaster goes a long way too and does them no harm of course.

quote:
Oh and what do you make of the daily mail? good and impartial? lol

Wow, you are so hip and cool, you sighted the Daily Mail. Wow, you are on the cutting edge of contemporary comedy and have not been at all influenced by the media, no not at all.

FYI, The Daily mail can write what it likes. If I don't buy it and read another news paper I cannot be fined or sent to prison for not giving The Daily Mail some money. The same cannot be said of the BBC though. I have to pay for it and it dominates the broadcast media in the UK.

There are plenty of papers that are at the opposite end of the political spectrum as the Daily Mail, yet they don't get attacked as often, if at all. Why is that? Oh yeah, as I said, the majority of our media is liberal/socialist biased and attack anything remotely conservative.

It's good to see that you have not been affected you hip young trendy thing you. Lol, daily mail, yeah, they wear cardigans and think every second person is an illegal immigrant, ha ha ha haaaa, what do they know???? Ha ha ha. The country has never been in such good shape and almost everything The Daily Mail complains about is not a problem at all. Oh wait....


RE: That's It?
By Fusible on 1/27/2009 12:47:08 PM , Rating: 2
In the U.S it would be life almost automatically, death sentence in California, especially Texas.


RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 12:57:33 PM , Rating: 2
Probably a life case. Death penalty is not a done deal anywhere.

I just hope the two of them didn't have any kids. Hopefully not since none were mentioned.


RE: That's It?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/27/2009 1:03:07 PM , Rating: 2
Texas has installed a fast lane and does something like 50% of all US executions. Texas, the way its meant to be...


RE: That's It?
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 1:15:00 PM , Rating: 2
What the guy in the story has going for him is that being a Brit it's very likely he's white.

Texas has 71% white population and 30% white DR population. Without a history of violence, he'd get life at worst.

Actually, he's not eligible, even in Texas:

Texas Capital Offenses:
The following crimes are Capital Murder in Texas:

murder of a public safety officer or firefighter;
murder during the commission of kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, or obstruction or retaliation;
murder for remuneration;
murder during prison escape;
murder of a correctional employee;
murder by a state prison inmate who is serving a life sentence for any of five offenses (murder, capital murder, aggravated kidnapping, aggravated sexual assault, or aggravated robbery);
multiple murders;
murder of an individual under six years of age.


And the 'fast track' still has the average inmate on DR for 10 years. Is that still 'the way it's meant to be'?


RE: That's It?
By dickeywang on 1/27/2009 2:03:49 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone know how much jail time he would've got if this man were in the U.S.?


RE: That's It?
By kayronjm on 1/27/2009 5:27:36 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, also impressed. What a maniatic bastard. I hope he dies.


RE: That's It?
By Josh7289 on 1/27/2009 6:10:50 PM , Rating: 2
I say lock him in jail for life. Real jail. Not fake prison stuff.

And I hope no one blames Facebook for this. The man was clearly on the breaking point in the first place.


Gzuz666
By KeepSix on 1/27/2009 1:54:21 PM , Rating: 2
SCENARIO #1: A man sneaks into the maternity ward of the hospital and steals a baby's pacifier.

SCENARIO #2: A man sneaks into the same maternity ward and sodomizes a baby.

Are you suggesting that these two acts merit the same punishment? Is that what you're saying?

I've been beaten, nearly to death. I've been robbed of every material possession I owned. I got over it. My mother was raped 25 years ago, and she is still trying to deal with it. It ended her marriage, her career, and her social life.




RE: Gzuz666
By VashHT on 1/27/2009 3:50:43 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah how anyone could rate material possessions so highly is kinda sick, he must consider sex to be no big deal or something which I find pretty strange.


RE: Gzuz666
By sgw2n5 on 1/27/2009 4:18:01 PM , Rating: 2
Get over yourselves. He said that HE would rather be raped than have his identity stolen. Do you really think that he would rather a baby be raped than a pacifier stolen?

Hell of a strawman you have going on there.


RE: Gzuz666
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 4:22:13 PM , Rating: 2
It is the unfortunate thing I deal with since I'm in the minority position. I respond with an opinion, I don't think anyone should be forced to abide by it as such. Clearly in a democratic decision, mine would not be favored, but I stand by my position either way.


RE: Gzuz666
By sgw2n5 on 1/27/2009 4:31:10 PM , Rating: 2
Well, for what it's worth, I happen to agree with most of your points.

sgw2n5's scale of badness--
1)Murder (by a large margin)
2)Assault to the point of permanently maiming another person
3)Sexual assault and battery
4)Assault and battery
5)Theft
6)Farting in the elevator


RE: Gzuz666
By masher2 (blog) on 1/27/2009 4:45:41 PM , Rating: 2
> "how anyone could rate material possessions so highly is kinda sick"

If someone steals something you've spent 10 years working for, they've essentially stolen 10 years of your life. In that perspective, theft is partial murder.

If someone gave me the choice between having my life savings stolen at age 55, or being murdered at age 70, I'd take the murder without a second thought. I don't think there's anything "sick" about that.


RE: Gzuz666
By sgw2n5 on 1/27/2009 5:35:36 PM , Rating: 2
Or you could submit to having your life savings stolen, live, and find a creative way to both recover your savings and satisfy your desire to confer swift and terrible retribution.

You know you'd have the motivation!


A Different Perspective
By Machine350 on 1/27/2009 2:24:50 PM , Rating: 2
Be careful before passing judgement.
I loved my wife with all my being. Then I found out she was cheating on me with someone she met on myspace. I was completely devastated and became enraged enough that murderous thoughts did creep into my head. Thank God for self control and rational thought. I'm not justifying what this guy did by any means, I'm just saying that I can see how someone gets to that point. It's easy to say "Throw him off a bridge." But what if it was you?




RE: A Different Perspective
By Gzus666 on 1/27/2009 2:28:45 PM , Rating: 2
Or, like normal people, you realize your girlfriend/wife isn't your property and she may do whatever she wishes. If she chooses to hurt your feelings, grow up and deal with it and move on. Why do some guys seem worse with emotions than women?


RE: A Different Perspective
By superkdogg on 1/27/2009 3:19:45 PM , Rating: 2
It's so tempting to just take the bait and get after you for passing judgement on people for having emotions and not fully controlling them.

Instead of that, I'll just say that you have to realize that most people are not going to respond to things the way that you evidently do-with little emotion or controlled emotion. Believe it or not, I generally think like you say you do-that people should use rational thought to tone down emotions, especially unpleasant ones. I tell people all the time that stimulus doesn't equal an emotion, because if it did everybody would react the same to the stimuli. The brain does process the information and assign emotions most of the time. I'll concede that point to you.

Real life is never as simple as "just control your emotions" or "just suck it up and keep going." If it were, there wouldn't be many problems around.

I give the guy props for sharing a story that doesn't necessarily win him many points, and also for keeping a grip during an exceptionally tough time.


RE: A Different Perspective
By sgw2n5 on 1/27/2009 4:24:38 PM , Rating: 2
Something truly awefull happened to me in my childhood. I had two options; deal with it an move on or not deal with it and let it ruin my entire life.

quote:
Real life is never as simple as "just control your emotions" or "just suck it up and keep going." If it were, there wouldn't be many problems around.


Actually, real life is exactly that simple. Either you deal with your problems and emotions in a rational matter, or you don't, and your emotions and problems subsequently consume you.


RE: A Different Perspective
By superkdogg on 1/28/2009 9:40:33 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Actually, real life is exactly that simple. Either you deal with your problems and emotions in a rational matter, or you don't, and your emotions and problems subsequently consume you.


Well, you're right to the degree this plan would work in pretty much all instances. Its the execution and the unintended side effects (having to rationally consider if you want to be joyous or excited) that are a bear. Again, I'm a believer in the theory and a big fan of Albert Ellis who penned many books on this sort of response. It's just not easy to execute, especially since brain plasticity often yield teens and young adults who are literally designed to deal with chaos and have to start at ground zero as far as managing themselves when in crisis.


"I'm not saying he should have killed her,....."
By Spuke on 1/27/2009 5:34:30 PM , Rating: 2
"...but I understand."




By Machine350 on 1/27/2009 5:58:36 PM , Rating: 2
LOL! Chris Rock, right?


By Spuke on 1/28/2009 11:34:06 AM , Rating: 2
That's correct. ;)


anyone care to explain?
By LumbergTech on 1/27/2009 8:08:15 PM , Rating: 2
Breastfeeding mothers may or may not be disturbing to most users of the site, but one thing that is universally disturbing for Facebook is when the site is flash point for a serious crime. A man named Edward Richardson from Staffordshire England was enraged by something his estranged wife posted on Facebook.

what does this mean (bolded)?




RE: anyone care to explain?
By superkdogg on 1/28/2009 9:45:42 AM , Rating: 2
This particular article juxtaposes the real meaning of the phrase. Normally flash point is similar to an idiomic use of boiling point, but obviously a flash point is much higher in science thus the usage in language is more dramatic.

In this case, he takes the phrase and makes it literal, meaning essentially the place where a fiery/explosive situation started. It would have the same meeting if "the point of ignition" were written instead of "flash point". Trouble is that a "flash point" is not a geographical place, but a point on a temperature scale, but the author doesn't use it in the literally correct way.


RE: anyone care to explain?
By superkdogg on 1/28/2009 9:46:21 AM , Rating: 2
This particular article juxtaposes the real meaning of the phrase. Normally flash point is similar to an idiomic use of boiling point, but obviously a flash point is much higher in science thus the usage in language is more dramatic.

In this case, he takes the phrase and makes it literal, meaning essentially the place where a fiery/explosive situation started. It would have the same meeting if "the point of ignition" were written instead of "flash point". Trouble is that a "flash point" is not a geographical place, but a point on a temperature scale, but the author doesn't use it in the literally correct way.


Where's Jack Thompson when you need him?
By 306maxi on 1/27/2009 10:52:45 AM , Rating: 2
Facebook trains you to kill your spouse!!!!!!




By PhoenixKnight on 1/27/2009 11:57:41 AM , Rating: 2
The guy could possibly have played a video game at some point in his life. Clearly it lead him to commit the murder.


he didn't play video games?!?
By MadMan007 on 1/27/2009 11:52:25 AM , Rating: 2
Takes the heat off video games but some nutty politician will probably try to expand draconian measures to include social networking.




RE: he didn't play video games?!?
By Ratinator on 1/27/2009 1:05:13 PM , Rating: 2
I was suprised the article didn't somehow try to link this to video games. How about we just understand that some people are going to do dumb stuff whether they play video games or not.


I'm surprised
By BruceLeet on 1/27/2009 4:04:57 PM , Rating: 2
I'm surprised that his council didn't go with the "heat of passion" defense that would have gotten him Manslaughter, after all it is usually tied with homicides that involve spouses or couples.

He could've have gotten a much lesser sentence.




RE: I'm surprised
By ira176 on 1/28/2009 12:23:51 PM , Rating: 2
I think it might be harder to prove that the murder committed here is a crime of passion. The man texted his wife with no response, then he went to her parents house where she was staying, broke in then killed her. I think there was a little more planning involved here. Time passed from the time he texted to the time he drove to the house (doesn't say how much) and he should have had enough time to come to his senses. It's not like they were both together, and she admitted to him that she cheated on him and then he beat her to death.


2 sides to the story
By AlmostExAMD on 1/28/2009 1:13:39 AM , Rating: 1
How can some of you post comments like that when they are only giving one account of the whole story at least what i read on here?
Of course he should be severely punished for the outcome of his actions but what is his side of the story?
Maybe the poor bastard slaved his entire life to give her a good life, working long hours breaking his back,overtime,weekends,then giving up some little of his own pleasures so he can buy his Miss's nice gifts every so often. One day he comes home the house is cleaned out there is no message or explanation, He tries to contact her but no response. Logs onto facebook or some other social site to see if there is any message she may have left,Only to find she has switched marital status to single?

Well I'm sorry but I would lose the absolute plot and probably end up doing something stupid as I'm sure a lot of you would wether you like to admit it or not.

Not every guy is an asshole some of us try and do the right thing, no cheating at all,working very hard to provide good life for wife and kids etc etc
If on the other hand he was a bastard and abused her in some way then fair enough he should be shot on the spot, save tax payers dollars in prison time, But I would sure like to know both sides of the story first.
And same applies if it was reversed and woman was the culprit and man the victim,only fair!
There is always 2 sides to the story, Unfortunately the media like to only portray the sad and sorry side as it gets more attention/ratings.
Rule of thumb,Guys can take a beating, broken bones/bruises heal in weeks/months so it's no big deal, but the psychological trauma that girls can do lasts for years even a lifetime so DON'T DO IT. Men let it all build up inside then release it in a rage,Likewise girls can not take a beating like a guy but are somewhat better at dealing with mental anguish from talking and getting it out of the system so guys DON'T LAY A FINGER ON THEM.
It's a balancing act!




RE: 2 sides to the story
By danchen on 1/28/2009 4:17:47 AM , Rating: 2
I've got to agree with you.

My initial reaction was "what an nutjob ! He deserves to die." like everyone else here. After reading your post, i realise that perhaps there is another side to the story and he may have been a victim himself.

However, the fact remains that you can't kill someone just because they betrayed/wronged/back stabbed/pissed you off.
Its just not right - both socially, morally and logically

BTW, he's dumb. there are so many other ways to deal with her (both legally or illegally). Walking right up to her and killing her like that is just asking for it.

Over here my country (Singapore), the law system would probably cane him 36 strokes. (don't laugh, the whips are so strong, it basically rips skin off)
Then they would hang him.


Comfort...really?
By Whaaambulance on 1/27/2009 11:15:39 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The verdict cannot bring Sarah back but we hope that it gives her family some form of comfort


Really? I am sure her family feels comfortable about the fact that this man who killed their daughter gets basically a slap on the hand and can be out in time to kill the rest of them.

UK is one backwards ass place.




Hmmm
By strikeback03 on 1/27/2009 11:56:59 AM , Rating: 2
My cousin did this. Hope her ex isn't that crazy.




Meh
By xxsk8er101xx on 1/27/2009 12:21:07 PM , Rating: 2
Someone that carries pot gets that amount of time if not more. Kill someone in cold blood without mercy and you get the same jail time.

That's just great...




LOL @ All the sheep
By EricMartello on 2/2/2009 3:54:14 PM , Rating: 2
For a "technologically savvy and educated crowd" the majority of you come across as toothless rednecks who can't process words with more than 5 letters (sorry for using big words).

Nobody bothered to ascertain the full scope of the situation to perhaps gain a better understanding as to why the man chose this course of action. Was he insane? What is insane - disagreeing with the sheep? Right...

It is people like you - quick to jump on bandwagons and resistant to independent thinking - that are the true problem with society. You're lack of ambition, complacency and generally underwhelming levels of common sense and intelligence are a big part of the reason the world has many of the problems it does. These are the idiots...

...Who buy SUVs without a genuine need for them, then complain about higher gas prices.

...Who accept loans they cannot pay back then wonder why they're losing their home/car/whatever else they couldn't afford.

...Who constantly place price above quality, then complain their jobs are being outsourced and that products don't last long enough.

...Live wastefully and then wonder why natural resources are diminishing.

...Do not contribute anything useful and primarily have a parasitic effect on the world.

...Who are quick to judge without having all the facts, and blindly agree with a crowd of equally stupid people, all too weak to speak their mind.

So really, he killed his wife - it happens...but the representation of what is happening here is much worse.




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