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MSI P35 Platinum

P35 Neo

P35 Neo Combo
MSI has no less than five P35 Express motherboards ready to launch

MSI is preparing its new Intel P35 Express powered motherboards, with support for DDR3 and/or DDR2 memory. The new P35 Express powered lineup includes five new models ranging from the flexible P35 Neo Combo to the flagship P35 Diamond.

Leading MSI’s P35 Express lineup is the DDR3 packing P35 Diamond. This model features four DIMM slots with support for DDR3-1066/800 up to 8 GB. Users hesitant to adopt DDR3 memory so quickly can opt for the P35 Platinum, which features four DDR2 DIMM slots. MSI also has a hybrid version of the P35 Diamond and P35 Platinum, the P35 Platinum Combo.

MSI’s P35 Platinum Combo packs four DDR2 and two DDR3 DIMM slots. The flexibility of the P35 Platinum Combo allows users to have up to 8GB of DDR2-800/667 or 4GB of DDR3-1066/800 memory. As with most combo memory supporting motherboards, the P35 Platinum Combo will not function with both types of memory installed.

All three P35 Express powered motherboards have similar feature sets, despite the different memory configurations. MSI packs its high-end P35 Express motherboards with two physical PCIe x16 slots, one full-speed and the other x4 electrically. Two PCIe x1 and two PCI slots are also available for expansion.

New to the high-end P35 Express lineup is the integration of Realtek’s ALC888T high-definition audio codec. Realtek previously announced the ALC888T over a year ago. The integrated Realtek ALC888T allows users to connect standard house phones to PCs for VoIP services. The Realtek ALC888T also allows users to use VoIP services while the system is off. MSI currently supports SkyTel and Skype VoIP services with its ALC888T powered motherboards.

All three high-end P35 Express powered motherboards feature Intel’s ICH9R south bridge. The ICH9R powers four internal SATA 3.0Gbps and two e.SATA ports. MSI installs a secondary Marvell storage controller for one more SATA 3.0Gbps and one IDE port.

Catering to mainstream users are the P35 Neo and P35 Combo. MSI’s P35 Neo offers four DDR2 memory slots while the P35 has two DDR2 and two DDR3 memory slots. Both boards have identical expansion and storage configurations. MSI packs the mainstream P35 models with one PCIe x16, three PCIe x1 and two PCI slots for expansion.

The mainstream P35 Express lineup lacks e.SATA ports. Nevertheless, MSI equips the P35 Neo and P35 Combo with four SATA 3.0Gbps powered by Intel’s ICH9 and one SATA 3.0Gbps powered by a separate Marvell controller. The Marvell controller also provides an IDE port. Since MSI has opted to equip its mainstream P35 Express lineup with Intel’s ICH9, there is no RAID support.

Aside from feature differences, all five P35 Express powered motherboards support LGA775 processors up to 1333 MHz front-side bus. MSI supports all Core architecture processors including Core 2 Extreme, Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium E2100 and Celeron 400-series. Netburst processors are no longer officially supported, due to Intel no longer validating the processors with its Bearlake chipset family. Nevertheless, MSI will support Intel’s upcoming Penryn family of 45nm processors.

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why won't legacy die?!
By Lazarus Dark on 5/3/2007 5:42:16 AM , Rating: 2
The Marvell controller also provides an IDE port.

Why? Intel had the sense to drop ide a year ago from its chipset, but even their mobos had ide from a seperate controller. Why are they still putting ide on? A pci pata card or a pata-sata adapter can be had for less than twenty bucks for your few pata drives left. Sata dvdrw drives can be found now for twenty bucks. All hdds are sata. What a waste of boardspace and money.

And other legacy? Intel won't drop support for ps2 and lpt ports until ich10 in '08. Pci just won't die. Vga should die too, why would I buy a vga monitor and why do some graphice cards, even the cheap ones, still have a vga? Dvi-vga adapters come with every graphics card for older monitors, I bet a lot of you have a handful in a drawer. Any other legacy hardware, there is a usb adapter for all of them. Mac users are perfectly happy throwing away all there stuff once a year and getting a whole new comp, why is it so hard for pc users to upgrade once every 10 years?

By Cobra Commander on 5/3/2007 9:20:43 AM , Rating: 5
There are numerous good reasons why legacy hardware exists (D-Sub 15 pin - NOT "VGA" - is what you're referring to..."VGA" is not just a port on a videocard). Care to speculate the percentage of SATA optical drives out there? The dominance of IDE-based optical devices alone makes it worthwhile for IDE to continue. Talking about a waste of money - the cost of adding that PATA controller is significantly-less (for both manufacturer and consumer) than $20, not to mention the lack of hassle for the average end user to open their computer up and install a peripheral. Get some perspective or experience - people cling on to legacy devices for a lot of reasons and this is no different than any other point in time in desktop computing.

RE: why won't legacy die?!
By deeznuts on 5/3/2007 12:50:13 PM , Rating: 2
So I should spend an extra $40-50 for something it probably cost the manufacturer a few bucks to do, and take up space? It takes up as much space as ... an ide port. Get over it.

RE: why won't legacy die?!
By encryptkeeper on 5/3/2007 2:23:40 PM , Rating: 2
Pci just won't die. Vga should die too, why would I buy a vga monitor and why do some graphice cards, even the cheap ones, still have a vga?...why is it so hard for pc users to upgrade once every 10 years?

You have a good point. Why doesn't everyone drive a Cadillac or BMW? Why doesn't everyone buy a 500,000 dollar house and a 10,000 dollar PC? Because not everyone is a spoiled whiny little rich 14 year old like yourself. People may wait ten years to buy a new car, or a new dishwasher or something like that. But parts in a computer can be individually replaced. Say my video card goes out on my VGA monitor. I'm totally happy with my current monitor, or I don't want to invest the money in the one I would get if I needed to replace the monitor. Why should I go buy a new monitor when my video card goes out? This is why boards still include IDE, PCI slots and PS2 ports. So stop whining.

P35 Heatpipes
By psych2l on 5/3/2007 12:28:07 AM , Rating: 1
They actually look worse than gigabyte bearlake mobos...
Plus I think they ripped off the heatpipes on the P35 board from rollercoaster tycoon (or sonic...), but if it works I would get it.

RE: P35 Heatpipes
By Talcite on 5/3/2007 12:42:12 AM , Rating: 2
I was just going to say that those heat pipes on the platinum look pretty retarded =/. Heat pipes are supposed to transfer heat between point A and point B. I don't know why they designed it this way.

Heat pipes are supposed to cool at the final destination, thus condensing the liquid inside and then returning to the heat source. Putting a heat sink 1/2 way through the pathway would cause it to condense before it reaches the final destination, thus not being as effective.

RE: P35 Heatpipes
By vanka on 5/3/2007 3:56:18 AM , Rating: 2
Putting a heat sink 1/2 way through the pathway would cause it to condense before it reaches the final destination, thus not being as effective.

Not necessarily. The purpose of this particular heat pipe is to silently cool the north/southbridges; placing a heat sink at the half-way point may seem to reduce efficiency and leave more of the heat near the center of the case, but there are probably valid design reasons for it.

The biggest reason I can think of for the extra heat sink is the amount of heat the two chips produce. If a heat pipe overheats (all the fluid inside it evaporates and cannot condense) the conductivity drops to 1/80th of a functioning heat pipe (assuming the heat pipe metal is copper). Therefore while the extra heat sink may drop the efficiency of the heat pipe a few percentage points, it prevents the efficiency from dropping 99 percentage points in case of overheating.

RE: P35 Heatpipes
By AstroCreep on 5/3/2007 5:49:31 PM , Rating: 2
lol, I was looking at it myself going 'WTF?'.
I dunno; we'll have see how it performs, despite the odd look.

By xsilver on 5/3/2007 8:36:55 AM , Rating: 2
is anyone excited about ddr3 for desktops?

care to elaborate why? price? performance? e-wang?

RE: ddr3?
By jkresh on 5/3/2007 3:01:32 PM , Rating: 2
Just as with ddr2, ddr3 will likely be mostly useless on desktops for the first few months (to maybe a year), then bandwidth will ramp up enough to overcome the latency issues and it will be useful.

RE: ddr3?
By AstroCreep on 5/3/2007 5:51:52 PM , Rating: 2
I was under the impression DDR3 has better latency than DDR2 (comparatively speaking, of course).
Reason I say that is because of the speculation a few years ago about AMD leap-frogging DDR2 in favor of DDR3. (I know it didn't happen, but still...)

Platinum Combo Eh?
By coldpower27 on 5/3/2007 10:42:45 AM , Rating: 3
That motherboard is just what I would like, or the Neo Combo, I will have to decide which is better for me.

color coordination
By codeThug on 5/3/2007 2:28:43 AM , Rating: 2

For those of you in the U.K., that would be smurphy.

Ugly boards
By Min Jia on 5/3/2007 4:02:08 AM , Rating: 2
The Asus P5K3 Deluxe looks better.

Heatpipes and sata ports
By ali 09 on 5/3/2007 6:43:13 AM , Rating: 2
The heatpipes on this are terrible - they are on my 6 year old Aopen MB. Also, only 5 Sata ports!! My new comp is going to have 3 sata hdd's and 2 sata dvd drives - all full already. 6 is at least the minimum i reckon. if Intel is going to drop ide support from the southbridge, then they need more sata ports.

Support for Penryn??
By AnotherGuy on 5/3/2007 1:21:23 PM , Rating: 2
"Nevertheless, MSI will support Intel’s upcoming Penryn family of 45nm processors."

These boards will support Penryn and Conroe at the same time?
When are these boards coming out then?

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