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Millions of pirated CDs and DVDs seized in summer operation

The Motion Picture Association announced the conclusion of Operation Takedown Monday, which it says resulted in the arrest of 461 suspected pirates in the countries of China, Malaysia, Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, and Taiwan.

Additionally, the group says it was able to seize more than 7.5 million pirated CDs and DVDs, as well as 1,000 CD/DVD burners and caught more than 56 cammers in the act of surreptitiously recording a feature film in theaters.

Operation Takedown ran from May to July 2008.

The press release, posted to the MPAA’s website on behalf of the MPA (PDF), notes that “governments across the [Asia-Pacific] region began to tighten their laws on camcording,” including reward and public outreach programs in Thailand, and plainclothes police officers that patrol cinemas in Hong Kong. Critics say that these government initiatives are a direct result of Hollywood lobbying efforts.

Both the MPAA press release and independent reports confirm an upsurge in legislation against piracy amongst Asian nation, particularly against the practice of recording movies while they are playing in movies – a process called camcording. Throughout the world, movie theater employees are being trained – often by MPAA representatives -- in the use of night vision goggles to monitor a movie crowd, in order to spot patrons attempting to record a film. Such initiatives appear to be working, with arrest announcements popping up in the news on a regular basis.

Indeed, the MPAA recently began to take a novel approach to its anti-piracy efforts, particularly in the case of DVD-sniffing dogs Lucky and Flo. The dogs are so effective, in fact, that at least one piracy syndicate offered a bounty in return for their “elimination”. On a more controversial note, the organization also cultivates an educational program aimed at elementary and middle schools, where students fill complete workbooks filled with anti-piracy materials and prompts.

The MPAA claims that it has lost more than $6 billion USD to piracy in 2005, and says its 2007 efforts resulted in more than 36,200 legal cases and 13,000 police raids, with a grand total of more than 31 million pirates CDs and DVDs seized.



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By tastyratz on 8/19/2008 8:43:46 AM , Rating: 5
About time someone who deserved it was a primary focus for piracy. I'm glad they nabbed these guys and happy to see them go down. Plenty of people steal songs/movies from the internet but the illegal operations burning and turning for profit are physically stealing their profits, not figuratively. Busting them isn't bad press (unlike going after single mothers and grandmothers)




RE: good
By kelmon on 8/19/08, Rating: -1
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By Radnor on 8/19/08, Rating: 0
RE: good
By omnicronx on 8/19/2008 4:15:39 PM , Rating: 2
I can't disagree more, as I've said before, If I can go for a walk downtown and see cops passing right by drug dealers on known corners whom anyone can tell that they are selling drugs, then I do not see why this logic should not be applied anywhere else.

Go after the big fish, the scene ripping groups and those that illegally distribute that media/software. Going after the little fish does nothing with organized crime and drug dealers, why on earth would it work in this situation. The only people that it deters are those that are directly affected by court proceeding, and lets just say 2000 out of 300 million are not very good results.

Once again I do not condone peoples actions here, but lets put things into perspective here. From my view point, I don't see that going after a few students and mothers whom I have yet to hear of anyone that has had a considerable amount of stolen property get charged. I have friends with 1TB of music!!! thats millions upon millions of dollars worth of damages, why are they going after people sharing 10 songs in kazaa?


RE: good
By kelmon on 8/20/2008 3:01:44 AM , Rating: 2
I suspect that they simply want to send a message that it doesn't matter how much stuff you downloaded/uploaded, if you get caught then you will be taken to court. Of course, it would be preferable to remove the supply of counterfeit goods from circulation, but if you can reduce demand for it by putting people off the idea of getting it then that works as well.

I admit, it does seem ethically iffy to go after those people who are less able to defend themselves - they are indeed the "low-hanging fruit". However, if it is proven that they did indeed knowingly break the law then they are just as guilty as anyone else. There is no excuse for this regardless as to who you are.


RE: good
By rs1 on 8/19/2008 5:40:47 PM , Rating: 3
You know, there's a world of difference between people being responsible for their actions, and imposing unnecessarily draconian consequences on them for actions which don't cause anybody any harm. You seem to have confused the two concepts.


RE: good
By kelmon on 8/20/2008 2:54:24 AM , Rating: 1
I'm sure there is a world of difference but that's not the point. It is clearly enshrined in law that it is illegal to download and distribute copyrighted material. You don't get the right to decide which laws do or do not apply to you. If you don't like the laws in your country, either take action to get the laws changed or go to one that supports your views. Equally, you do not have the right to determine what is harmful and what is not.

So, no, I haven't confused the concepts. If you knowingly break the law and get caught then I have absolutely no sympathy for you, particularly if you got caught for stealing non-necessary items like media.


RE: good
By mindless1 on 8/20/2008 3:14:26 PM , Rating: 2
Sure, break the law and you should have to face the consequences, but that is only justice if the punishment fits the crime, if we as a people deem it appropriate punishment which I'd be willing to bet isn't the case. I've yet to hear from a majority who think sharing a few songs is worthy of several thousands of dollars in damages.


RE: good
By kelmon on 8/21/2008 3:04:51 AM , Rating: 2
Well, that's something that I can't help you with. The justice system tends to be used as a political tool to deal with crimes perceived by the people in a way that they see fit in order to secure popularity, i.e. "we're being tough on the crimes you think are important". In this respect the best that you can do, as a people, is express dissatisfaction with the current arrangement to your local political representatives or even vote against them next time. However, be under no illusion, whatever the punishment it needs to be severe enough that it will dissuade others if you hope to stop the crime from happening in the first place. Clearly there is no point giving a punishment that is effectively a slap on the wrist, particularly if it takes a long time to deliver that punishment.

Still, this doesn't change the thrust of my argument here - people don't get to choose which laws do or do not apply to them and the punishment, whether you agree with it or not, for breaking them is clearly displayed. I'd have sympathy if the person was breaking the law to, for example, feed their starving family, but not for downloading music by DMX. No one has an excuse for doing that.


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By mindless1 on 8/21/2008 5:31:24 AM , Rating: 2
You are 100% wrong. The punishment cannot be just if it's an attempt to dissuade others.

Look at the simple facts, these cases are about actual damages, not your idea of teaching someone else to do what you think they should. If some other person breaks a law and causes damages, that other person is the one who should pay the remainder, NEVER trying to make someone else a scape-goat.


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By Samus on 8/20/08, Rating: 0
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By mindless1 on 8/20/2008 3:18:08 PM , Rating: 2
Assassin to judge: Your honor, I wasn't the one making the decisions, someone else was in charge and I was just doing my job.

I don't buy the argument that individuals can shun their responsibility if knowingly working for a company breaking the laws. It takes all of them to do that, not just a handful of men wanting it to happen.


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By Inkjammer on 8/19/2008 9:11:36 AM , Rating: 5
On Manas Air Base, Kyrgyzstan (a United States Air Force base) you could buy counterfeit iPods at the AAFES Green Beans coffee shop for the longest time.

I was there for over a year, and once a month, they'd invite the Russians and Kyrgyz nationals as part of a bazaar to sell their "warez". They'd sell pirated and counterfeit movies, games and electronics to our troops (some of whom were none the wiser). And nobody cared. It was essentially U.S. government approved piracy, as we invited them onto the air base, knew what was going on, shrugged it off. They claimed "copyright" didn't apply to the military in times of war, so they could do whatever they want. Meanwhile, our troops got ripped off...

So yeah... I'm all for busting the pirates trying to make money off of warez, rips and games. A download is one thing, a burned disc with a price tag is another. People like Jammie Thomas and others are just victims of a system that can't profit on its own and instead goes after average consumers in an attempt to make ends meet. It's nice to see some real pirates get their for a change instead of single moms and people who shared a small handful of albums.


RE: good
By nvalhalla on 8/19/2008 10:12:40 AM , Rating: 3
In Iraq and Kuwait I bought movies from street vendors for $5 a piece. All were burned copies, most were cams of movies still in theaters. When we were going home customs agents checked everyone for contraband (severed ears, grenades, ect.) and told us we could keep one copy of each movie we bought from the vendors. Everyone knew they were pirated, no one cared.


RE: good
By TheDoc9 on 8/19/2008 11:00:29 AM , Rating: 2
Because it's a joke, and people in the real world realize this. They also realize that if you put your life on the line your a hero and having a movie or song is actually OK in the grand scheme of things.


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By thornburg on 8/19/08, Rating: 0
RE: title
By Shooks on 8/19/2008 8:30:04 AM , Rating: 5
Motion Picture Association , not Motion Picture Association of America


RE: title
By the goat on 8/19/2008 8:45:38 AM , Rating: 2
Why did Shooks get rated down? He is 100% correct. The MPA is the group that operates on the world scale. The MPAA only operates in the USA.


Imaginary Numbers
By EricMartello on 8/19/2008 11:35:10 PM , Rating: 2
Does this mean that for the next fiscal year, the MPA & MPAA will show at least $6 billion in additional revenue? How about at least $3 billion more? Maybe?




RE: Imaginary Numbers
By mindless1 on 8/20/2008 3:25:00 PM , Rating: 2
Of course not, and their excuse will be that some other pirates simply took up the slack in the pirate market so all piracy must be eliminated. They'd be right on a small scale, other pirates will end up with more demand now but it won't change the cultural attitudes and demand for the pirated works.


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