MIT students don't really do mornings, or worry about what they're
wearing, so I can't imagine she'd even think about her clothes before
heading out to pick up a friend at the airport before 8am."
"Thankfully because she followed our instructions, she ended up in
our cell instead of a morgue," Pare said. "Again, this is a serious
offense ... I’m shocked and appalled that somebody would wear this type
of device to an airport."
"In a sentence, I'm an inventor, artist, engineer, and student, I love to build things and I love crazy ideas."
quote: but certainly taking the person in for questioning isn't out of line
quote: I have no idea what a real bomb looks like, but I don't think it's a plastic board with a 9-volt battery on it.
quote: So mixing in a little lime green food colouring with my plastique makes it perfectly okay to bring into an airport?
quote: If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but I can't see a bill - I'll still put money on it being a duck rather than a goose with a speech impediment.
quote: Yeah, and have your kid carry it. No one will suspect a thing. Or just shape it like a Snickers bar and seal it in a Snickers wrapper and you're set. Do you see how rediculous this can get? There are detection technologies that overcome all of this.
quote: The police over-reacted, but it is understandable. The idea of prosecution, in my opinion, is a violation of her constitutional rights. She should be cleared and she should sue the hell out of the police dept. for false arrest when this is over.
quote: Say what?
quote: if the objective was to detonate it prior to or entering the secured area
quote: If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but I can't see a bill - I'll still put money on it being a duck rather than a goose with a speech impediment.The "looks like a duck" saying had better not be new to you, or I'm going to feel really old.
quote: What does that matter? What would then be the difference of detonating it there or in a store or square?
quote: Since when do geese and ducks look the same? Your point is lost.
quote: I fail to see
quote: The police did not get a close look at the device
quote: The police did not get a close look at the device.
quote: Police quickly realized that the device she had been wearing was entirely harmless.
quote: They had a person that did break several laws, and they arrested her accordingly.
quote: She intentionally went to an airport with a device she clearly meant to look like a bomb.
quote: We caught an innocent MIT student!!
quote: That said, I'm somewhat sympathetic to the girl. A 19-year old who has gown up in an intensively technical environment very well may not have sufficient common sense to see that perspective.
quote: I must ask, is the art worth your life?
quote: If the thing in any way actually resembled a bomb, then you'd have a leg to stand on. I mean, did you see the picture?
quote: So in you view a plastic board with a 9-volt battery on it is what a bomb looks like?
quote: So now when we want to express ourselves, we must stop and consider...
quote: This is a responsibility that we do have. I cannot go around flipping people off, as this is a horribly offensive action. Even if that really was expressing myself, it is still a duty that I, as a citizen of the United States and freely speaking person, must fullfill.
quote: and they have to save face somehow. Apparently, that way is to protract the legal dealings, and emphasize the "disorderly conduct" line
quote: There is nothing illegal about wearing electronic art. Nothing.
quote: Believe me, it is very suspicious that we do not know the color of this play-doh. I must believe that it is some absurd color and the police do not want to look any more like the idiots they are on this issue. Our legal system must have a heck of a lot of free time to waste it on stuff like this.
quote: ...you're quite wrong.
quote: You're quite the debater.
quote: So, while I understand the point you are trying to make, I do not see it. As far as I know, walking around flipping people off is illegal. There is nothing illegal about wearing electronic art. Nothing.
quote: holding a large block of play-doh
quote: I'll give you a clue - a person walking in with a bomb is going to conceal it - they're not going to be asking about arriving flights.
quote: Also, she was not in the secure area of the airport.
quote: Sure, I want my police to protect my family, too, but I also don't want the police to so overzealous they put my family in harm's way.
quote: Would you be able to live with yourself?
quote: I don't get the "it did not look like a bomb" argument. You act like the police had a chance to see it from closer than 10 feet first.
quote: Let me ask you think: what do you think a "typical" bomb would look like at an airport? Probably would be a suitcase or backpack filled with explosives.
quote: I think the cops did a great job -- unless they really do press charges
quote: They are pressing charges - I haven't heard anything about them dropping the charges. They have to save face, you know!
quote: It sounds like you are of the opinion that she is innocent period, end of story.
quote: and if it had been C4, a terrorist would not be carrying it in their hands
quote: Perhaps the issue isn't fear, but ignorance. Security personnel should know what a bomb looks like, right?
quote: How are police to tell the difference between that person and this foolish MIT student?
quote: Funny, isn't it exactly the job of the police to be able to tell the difference between a criminal and an ordinary citizen? I mean, doesn't the failure to distinguish between a criminal and an ordinary citizen point to a real problem somewhere?
quote: But if it was just the circuit board, then the police clearly overreacted.
quote: Any reasonable person who looks at this can clearly tell it is not a bomb.
quote: ask random people if they think it is a bomb, and how many "yes" answers do you think you'll get?
quote: So by your definition, any device with wires and a battery looks like a bomb? You probably wouldn't set foot in any kind of electronics lab, then - you'd be scared to death.
quote: Second, you insist that it's the job of the police to tell the difference. But you still don't say how they are to tell.
quote: Even though it was nothing more than a silly circuit board and a piece of play-doh (that part still strikes one as odd), it created a dangerous situation. While such events didn't happen in this case, this situation could have resulted in a crowd panic and someone being trampled, or an accidental police shooting of perhaps an innocent bystander. Many of these incidents also result in flight delays and other inconvenience to thousands of people.
quote: Why do you suppose the police didn't show the "play-doh" to the press? The only thing they showed was the shirt, and based on that alone, they clearly overreacted.
quote: The putty was a “very small amount in the shape of a rose,” Simpson’s current attorney Tom Dwyer said yesterday. Simpson intended to give the rose to her boyfriend, Dwyer said.Wark said that there was no mention of the putty in the police reports used to file the charges.
quote: Gee, the police failed to mention it was a small amount in the shape of a rose. Idiots.
quote: Sources say that the shirt was a sort of homemade tech-art statement and that Simpson frequently wore the shirt.