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The latest campaigns against the Grand Theft Auto come as little surprise to anyone, but still serve up interesting societal questions

Perhaps the biggest video game release of the year, Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto IV is an iconic example of the power of the video game industry.  EA Games is desperate to acquire Take Two, almost entirely out of a desire to get its hands on the lucrative franchise.  Sony is hoping the system will help re-energize Playstation 3 sales.  And movie executives are fearful that the game will ruin their summer blockbusters by stealing away their viewers' time.

The power of GTA IV, though, as always is not merely in sales, but in shock.  On top of its extreme violence, usage of profanity, drugs and alcohol the new game pushes the envelope featuring masturbation, fellatio and intercourse -- though stopping short of full nudity sex scenes.  In an era, seen by some as prudish, in which parents are more appalled by sex, a biological function, than severed heads it seemed inevitable that the game would draw some high profile criticism.  Now the critics have come out, both with some familiar and unfamiliar faces.

First up is a new foe -- Mothers Against Drunk Driving.  The group is incensed at the game for providing depictions of driving intoxicated.  It is lobbying the Entertainment Software Ratings Board to change the game's rating from "Mature" to "Adults Only."  Such a change seems unlikely, but if it happened, it would mean that the game would be unable to be carried at many major retail stores.

MADD released a statement saying, "Drunk driving is not a game, and it is not a joke.  Drunk driving is a choice, a violent crime and it is also 100 percent preventable."

The organization is also trying to convince publisher Take-Two Interactive and developer Rockstar Games to stop distribution of the popular game "out of respect for the millions of victims/survivors of drunk driving."

In GTA IV players can "drink" at bars and then afterwards have the option of hailing a taxi, walking off their intoxication, or throwing caution to the wind and driving drunk.  When driving drunk the view blurs and its harder to steer.  Players recover from intoxication after several minutes in-game.

Rockstar shot down MADD's requests in a public statement in which it said, "We have a great deal of respect for MADD's mission, but we believe the mature audience for 'Grand Theft Auto IV' is more than sophisticated enough to understand the game's content.  For the same reason that you can't judge an entire film or television program by a single scene, you can't judge 'Grand Theft Auto IV' by a small aspect of the game."

Meanwhile a familiar foe of the video game industry is rearing his ugly head.  Jack Thompson, scolded by the Florida Supreme Court for his record of junk lawsuits against video games is back at it.  He's calling on a Florida U.S. attorney to sue Take Two and retailers for offering the game.

He raves in his letter, "Indictments should be returned against Take Two corporately and its Chairman, Strauss Zelnick, along with other Take Two officers. Indictment should also be against Sony and Microsoft which are making this pornographic game available to minors, and openly so, on their PS3 and Xbox systems.  Further, indictments should be handed down against Wal-Mart, Best Buy, GameStop, and all other retailers distributing this game to minors at their retail stores, openly, to kids who are only seventeen."

Then in a comical moment he compares the game to the polio virus.  He continues, "Grand Theft Auto IV is the gravest assault upon children in this country since polio. We now have vaccines for that virus ... The 'vaccine' that must be administered by the United States government to deal with this virtual virus of violence and sexual depravity is criminal prosecutions of those who have conspired to do this.  If you doubt me, look at the aforementioned streaming audio/video. It will make you sick."

As "evidence" Thompson offers up a link to a graphic video from IGN entitled "Ladies of Liberty City," which is viewable online, and definitely not a good idea for those of you reading at work.  While the only likely ramification of Thompson's tirade is the furthering of his public reputation of somewhat of a joke, it does continue to illustrate the controversy over whether video games merit the same depictive rights as other forms of graphical media.

However, controversy certainly isn't stopping customers. GTA IV is expected to set both sales and profit records, as analysts predict it to sell around 9 million copies, and make $400M USD at launch.


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Irony
By MozeeToby on 5/1/2008 12:24:17 PM , Rating: 5
What's ironic is that the game specifically says "Driving in this condition is a bad idea, better call a cab". The scene in question is designed to teach you how to use the cabs in the game. If you drive anyway the police will arrest you, even open fire on your car if hurt someone and refuse to stop. The game is actually very clearly anti-drunk driving.




RE: Irony
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/1/2008 12:29:11 PM , Rating: 3
Hmmm, maybe I should have done that :) I took Michelle to a bar on our second date and got plastered. She asked me to take her home, so I hopped back in my SUV and drove her home without getting into an accident or getting pulled by the cops. I guess that saved me fare for the taxi :-)

Didn't bother her though... and I scored with her the next night, so all is well in Niko's eyes (DualShock3 FTW) :)


RE: Irony
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 5/1/2008 1:14:51 PM , Rating: 5
Haha I'm so not interesting in the random dating minigame. I took her bowling once and figured this was the dumbest shit I've ever seen in a video game (I haven't played the Sims much) -- there's no story value in doing that right?


RE: Irony
By BladeVenom on 5/1/2008 1:39:05 PM , Rating: 5
If you hated that, you'd best steer clear of Japanese PC games.


RE: Irony
By afkrotch on 5/2/2008 12:53:34 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, but in those type of games, you have sex with them. Fully mosaic'd out and all.


RE: Irony
By nugundam93 on 5/5/2008 1:20:23 AM , Rating: 2
the ones most fun are those with full animation, like in sexy beach. some just have stills with sound (background music, voices). :D

i sure did waste some time playing them too way back. hahaha.


RE: Irony
By AlphaVirus on 5/1/2008 2:26:04 PM , Rating: 2
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there's no story value in doing that right?

I questioned this, I do not know but it does not hurt to have a female to tag along. I'm hoping towards the end of the game, she will turn into a Bonny and Clyde deal. :)


RE: Irony
By AlphaVirus on 5/1/2008 2:24:23 PM , Rating: 5
I did the same thing "Hey a martini glass on the map, must be a bar" so I took her there. After the date was over, he is stumbling around but I was not about to leave my car so I hopped in and drove off. The car started to drift and swerve and the visuals began to blur. This was fun and all but it actually made me slow down to prevent crashing my car.

I would have scored the next date but I accidently pressed the L1 button and fired my pistol off while driving her home. She starts to scream and hops out the car...lets just say she does not like the violent lifestyle.

I still am trying to get her to go on another date with me. After I spent all that money on nice clothes, shoes, etc and finding the nicest neighborhood to steal a decent car.


RE: Irony
By afkrotch on 5/2/2008 1:09:48 PM , Rating: 2
lol.

I want to play this game so bad, but our local store (AAFES) is sold out. It'll probably be another month or two before I see it on the shelves again.

Have no fear, for play-asia is here. I want to get Minna no Golf 5, as the US version (Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds has terrible voices), and Fate/Tiger Colosseum along with GTA IV. Yes yes, I love my PS3. That's not to say I hate my Xbox 360. I blew $240 on a single game and two XBL point cards in Feb. That's more than GTA IV, Minna no Golf 5, and the F/T Colosseum game. $40 USD more.

Another week and I'll be getting drunk and driving over ppl's moms...in-game of course.


RE: Irony
By AlphaVirus on 5/7/2008 2:58:34 PM , Rating: 2
Its almost been a week, have you been able to purchase GTA4?


RE: Irony
By killerroach on 5/1/2008 12:29:14 PM , Rating: 5
And that will deter MADD from rasing a stink... why? :)

Publicity is publicity for an advocacy group, especially if you haven't been drawing the headlines in recent years due to guns, gods, or Gore. So I take it their "G" word to score a quick headline, therefore, is "GTA"...


RE: Irony
By HOOfan 1 on 5/1/2008 12:29:31 PM , Rating: 5
Jack Thompson could probably find something "offensive" and "violent" to campaign against in a My Little Pony game.

You cannot reason with the unreasonable.


RE: Irony
By JasonMick (blog) on 5/1/2008 12:45:33 PM , Rating: 4
Of course, I mean clearly "My little pony" is a euphemism, and you can imagine what it means.

And you think that's bad how about
Disney's The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Underseas Adventure

"Adventure" under her "sea", huh? Not on my watch!

Darn video game manufacturers, what will they unholy next??? Oh the humanity!


RE: Irony
By kinnoch on 5/1/2008 4:51:57 PM , Rating: 5
"Everythings better, down where its wetter, take it from me."

Sabastian said it himself in the song "Under the sea"


RE: Irony
By mles1551 on 5/1/2008 1:04:52 PM , Rating: 3
I heard he tried to stop the release of Hello Kitty Island Adventures b/c of its Nazi overtones.

Anyone watch Boston Legal last night? Just think they tried to make this guy look like a Presidential candidate.


RE: Irony
By spluurfg on 5/1/2008 2:06:41 PM , Rating: 2
I just think the funniest thing is that the devs were already making fun of him and other such 'values' activists in the game, because they were expecting this:

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/games/2008/GTA...


RE: Irony
By Synastar on 5/1/2008 3:44:04 PM , Rating: 3
You have to wonder if JT's hoping in some twisted way that someone will murder him and make him a martyr so he can prove his point and go down in history.


RE: Irony
By FITCamaro on 5/1/2008 1:07:42 PM , Rating: 5
I agree. When I read they were upset about the drunk driving, I thought, "If anything the game goes to show what can happen if you try to actually drive drunk." It does anything but promote it. I would understand them getting upset if you could go out drinking and then get in the car and drive normal as that would show what they're inferring. But it doesn't.

The fact of the matter is the game is rated M. It's for people 17+. It clearly states on the box all the things that are in the game. Language, violence, drug use, sex. They don't hide any of it. If you don't want your kid playing it, then don't buy it. If they buy it and you catch them playing it, take it away. For the rest of us that enjoy the game, leave us alone.

I was quite surprised when I picked up a hooker, chose the $70 option, and the chick climbed in Niko's lap and started f*cking him.


RE: Irony
By Sulphademus on 5/1/2008 1:31:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Further, indictments should be handed down against Wal-Mart, Best Buy, GameStop, and all other retailers distributing this game to minors at their retail stores, openly, to kids who are only seventeen."


People like to act like teenagers have their heads buried in the sand. They have their heads in the sand if they think highschool is Little House on the Prarie.
I mean, come on, how many of us were devirginized prior to age 18?