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Logitech Desktop Cordless Wave keyboard and mouse  (Source: Logitech)
Logitech announces new corded and cordless "wave" design keyboards

Logitech unveiled today its new groundbreaking keyboard design that veers away from the traditional "straight" keyboard.  The new "wave" design allows users to comfortably use their keyboards without having to change the way they type.  The two new keyboards styles released are the Logitech Wave Keyboard and the Cordless Desktop Wave, featuring the Logitech Comfort Wave Design.

The aspects of the new keyboards that set it apart from the rest are the three new features.  They each sport a wave key-frame design, a U-shaped constant curve, and a cushioned, contoured palm rest.  According to Logitech, users will not have to retrain their hand for typing, unlike other contour keyboards on the market.

“With the increased awareness and demand for comfort in our day-to-day lives, Logitech’s new products offer a timely solution,” said Denis Pavillard, vice president of product marketing for Logitech’s keyboards and desktops. “According to a study at Harvard, for Logitech, the average person types approximately 2 million keystrokes every year. That’s equal to 200 hours of typing. The Logitech Wave Comfort Design will delight people by offering the perfect balance of comfort and usability.”

The new keyboards also offer larger, easy to see and use hotkeys which can be mapped to launch certain desktop items.  Also, the new accessory features a type-speed indicator and an error-rate tracker that calculates the number of time a user hits the backspace key.

The Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave keyboard-and-mouse is to be expected to be available beginning in late August for $89.99.  The corded model will be released at the beginning of October for $49.99.

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Looks familiar
By Omega215D on 7/27/2007 2:36:17 AM , Rating: 2
The Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 has a similar layout, but it is wired and lacks a cushioned palm rest, then again it is $15 in some stores.

So it really isn't ground breaking.




RE: Looks familiar
By budapest on 7/27/2007 2:38:29 AM , Rating: 3
Thats what I thought too! But then I went to www.logitech.com/wave and saw some more in depth photos.

Now instead of similar, it's a little bit different

Ground breaking stuff indeed.

End sarcasm.


RE: Looks familiar
By retrospooty on 7/27/2007 12:11:27 PM , Rating: 2
I took a look at Logitech's site, it does have some interesting differences. I would say if you are unhappy, or more importantly uncomphy with your current keyboard it is worth a look. Most local Best Buy type stores have them on display within a month or so of release, so you can feel it up.


RE: Looks familiar
By abhaxus on 7/27/2007 12:16:11 PM , Rating: 5
If only shopping for a new girlfriend was as easy as going to best buy to see a new model and "feel it up."


RE: Looks familiar
By retrospooty on 7/29/2007 9:52:03 AM , Rating: 2
LOL. The problem with that is, no matter how good they might feel at first, they change after a few months when you take them home.


RE: Looks familiar
By oTAL (blog) on 7/30/2007 10:08:14 AM , Rating: 3
Sorry about your luck man...
On the other hand, I'm a geek with a hot girl and I LOVE it!
Muahahahahahahahaha!

It looks really stupid to brag in real life, so I thought I'd take this chance and do it online *lol*

P.S. Truth is, reading the post I find it's almost as stupid as it would be in real life, but it still feels damn good!

And you know something? Having the hottest girlfriend of all your friends and co-workers is way more satisfying than having the highest PCMark score.


RE: Looks familiar
By Vanilla Thunder on 8/1/2007 5:18:02 PM , Rating: 2
No link to a photo? I think you're just trying to boost your e-penis, and happen to be another geek who rubs one out to C2D ads every night.

Vanilla


RE: Looks familiar
By harshbarj on 7/27/2007 2:59:23 AM , Rating: 3
If you looked at the photo you'd see it's curved in 2 ways. Not only are the keys arranged in a wave pattern but they are also sunk in were your hands rest.

The two keyboards are quite different. And if it works it would be ground breaking (although I would never use one).


RE: Looks familiar
By jconan on 7/27/2007 6:24:00 AM , Rating: 2
Strange for some reason I've always called it the natural 2000 but here's the link http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard... without wrist rest and natural ergonomic keyboard 4000 series with wrist rest and a little bit more keys. However the usb on the 4000 is not compatible with ps/2 to usb conversion. I'm not sure about the 2000 though.


RE: Looks familiar
By Gul Westfale on 7/27/2007 8:43:10 AM , Rating: 2
the keyboard on some acer laptops has the same curve to it as well, so i don't see the groundbreaking here either...


RE: Looks familiar
By GoodBytes on 7/27/2007 3:38:11 PM , Rating: 2
not they are not. This keyboard has keys that are higher then others on the same keyboard, the keys height makes a wave.

See the fallowing picture from Logitech site:
http://www.logitech.com/repository/543/jpg/4782.1....


RE: Looks familiar
By CascadingDarkness on 7/27/2007 4:54:26 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly right. Revolutionary because it doesn't just curve, it "waves" in a three dimensional pattern for best height placement.

I for one own only Logitech products. They are more expensive than most, but the designs are all well thought out for comfort and function along with little bonuses (such as hotkeys/buttons).

If only they could make SetPoint not be so awful.


RE: Looks familiar
By afkrotch on 7/29/2007 12:34:39 AM , Rating: 2
Take this...
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard...

Add in this...
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/kb_essential720...

And you get the Logitech's wave keyboard. Not revolutionary in the least.

As for extra buttons, I'm lean towards having zero extra buttons. 104 keys and that's it. Last keyboard I bought was a $10 Dell keyboard. Zero extra buttons. Shoot, the thing barely had extra plastic that hung off of it.

http://snpi.dell.com/sna/images/products/large/DJ3...

A thing of beauty. Course I'll probably get the card reader version, as I need it for Web Outlook access at home. It took me a while to decide on getting the keyboard, because of the Prnt Srn, Scroll Lock, and Pause keys were moved, but I now know that I don't use those buttons enough to care. I no longer use a kvm switch, I only use Prnt Srn every so often, and I never use the Pause/Break button.

I don't care that they make keyboards with extra buttons, I just wished more companies would produce your simplistic 104 keyboards in updated styling.

I use Lian Li cases for their great layout and simplistic design. I have a BenQ monitor for it's simplistic design. I use my Dell keyboard for it's simplistic design. I have a Microsoft Laser mouse which is somewhat simplistic. It has two extra buttons, but they are hardly noticeable and I only use the left side button (as a back key in Explorer or IE).

I do wish that the Dell keyboard should have come with a couple USB ports on it. Like my Happy Hacker Keyboard Lite 2. Now my HHK Lite 2 is super simplistic, while at the same time not. Take a keyboard, strip off all your Function keys (F1 - F12), and numpad. It's nothing more than the keys that line up with your Ctrl keys. 65 keys total. To access your F1 - F12 keys, you'll have to press the Fn key and 1 (F1), 2 (F2), etc. Same things for your numpad and so forth. It's much like a laptop keyboard.

http://pfuca-store.stores.yahoo.net/haphackeylit1....

It's a nice keyboard, but also annoying, as I bought it in Akihabara, so it's in a Japanese layout. So certain keys don't actually type what's on it and I'm use to the US layout. So trying to find forward slashes or back slashes is a bunch of key pushing until I find it.


RE: Looks familiar
By Vanilla Thunder on 7/27/2007 1:06:06 PM , Rating: 1
I've been using the MS Ergo 4000 for about a year now, and I love it. There's not much to complain about on this board. Granted, the gullwing design does take some getting used to, in the long run this thing will save your wrists and hands. The 4000 also has a nice feature set, and media buttons if you need them. I'd highly recommend it to anyone looking for an ergo board.

Vanilla


RE: Looks familiar
By Vanilla Thunder on 7/31/2007 10:17:53 AM , Rating: 1
How do I get downrated for liking my keyboard? What a bunch of shit.

V


RE: Looks familiar
By Vanilla Thunder on 8/1/2007 5:15:37 PM , Rating: 1
To the cheeky bastards who downrate for no reason.... FUCK YOURSELVES.


Bleh
By Harkonnen on 7/27/2007 3:33:12 AM , Rating: 4
Why is it so hard for a company to make a STANDARD wireless keyboard?

No extra media buttons and crap I'll never ever use. All I want is a wireless keyboard with the 104 or 110 keys(not sure of exact number) that looks nice. If they want to design one like that I will buy it.




RE: Bleh
By michal1980 on 7/27/2007 6:33:23 AM , Rating: 2
because the standard these days is having the keys.

welcome to the 21st century


RE: Bleh
By psypher on 7/27/2007 9:50:58 AM , Rating: 1
Sooooo true.

When I'm at work, if a keyboard doesn't have hotkeys that I can set to Access, Excel, Word, Groove and a calculator, then it isn't worth it. My current work keyboard has a button for Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook, Search(set to Google), Home (set to Dailytech), and a VoIP (which I have set to Groove instead) as well as your standard media buttons, a calculator button and 4 programmable keys. It's perfect for work.

When I'm at home, I a wireless keyboard with volume control and other media keys because sometimes my remote control isn't as close as my keyboard.

And on my laptop, I want a seperate number pad (I am 6'8", so carrying around a 17" laptop isn't that big of a deal for me. it's like a 14" laptop for a normal sized person.)

So as you can see, people have different needs for their keyboards and subsequently there are different styles of keyboards to fill those needs. Above all, even with all the features that I want on my various keyboards, I want them all to be attractive. Logitech does a pretty good job with that request.


RE: Bleh
By rikulus on 7/27/2007 8:51:40 AM , Rating: 2
I feel the same way, and have been quite happy with the Logitech EX110. It does have Play/skip and volume controls, but at least they are very subtle. It keeps the overall keyboard fairly compact.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...


RE: Bleh
By Screwballl on 7/27/2007 10:07:06 AM , Rating: 2
I agree 100%

Release 2 versions, one with and one without the buttons.

I buy my keyboards based on this exact factor, if it has the buttons and they are any bigger than the "F" keys then I do not buy it. If there are more then 4 or 5 "extra" buttons then I do not buy it. My latest and newest keyboard was $5 at newegg, just a simple rosewill with the keys like a laptop (flat type rather than raised type). It does have a few basic silver function buttons like volume up/down and mute but thats pretty much it, they are so small it looks more like trim than buttons.

The problem nowadays is that people are lazy, one button should do what they want and all the buttons should be in one place. Volume, power, sleep, monitor off, mute, internet, email, search, etc... what is so hard about double clicking OE or Thunderbird icon on the desktop? How hard is it to right click the volume icon in the taskbar? People have gotten lazy...

No thanks I will stick with the basics.


RE: Bleh
By SirLucius on 7/27/2007 11:45:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The problem nowadays is that people are lazy, one button should do what they want and all the buttons should be in one place. Volume, power, sleep, monitor off, mute, internet, email, search, etc... what is so hard about double clicking OE or Thunderbird icon on the desktop? How hard is it to right click the volume icon in the taskbar? People have gotten lazy...


It's not laziness. It's called efficiency. I work with Photoshop and Painter all the time and having the extra keys really comes in handy. It's not a matter of being too lazy to go to the desktop and double clicking on an icon. It's just more efficient to hit one button and have a program launch. The same can be said for media keys. While working on an image I don't want to have to stop, right click on the volume icon, and raise the volume. I'd much rather just push a button up or down while still drawing with my pen tablet. Even with my tablet, I can program the side buttons it has to do different things, even according to the program I'm currently running. This comes in very handy when switching between multiple programs, and when browsing multiple folders. And the less I have to worry about menial tasks and operations, the more I can focus on cranking out good artwork.

While I understand that you personally might not have need for extra buttons, saying that people use them just because they're lazy is ignorant on your part.


RE: Bleh
By CascadingDarkness on 7/27/2007 5:15:47 PM , Rating: 2
Have to second this. Who wouldn't launch their most used programs with one touch, either at work or home.

The only thing that burns me is buttons you can't reprogram or disable. I don't use Outlook at home for good reason, so why would I want a button that launches the abomination when I hit it accidentally?

SetPoint is nice when it works . I can rebind them to almost anything, even multi-key shortcuts, to launch programs.


RE: Bleh
By Lord Evermore on 7/29/2007 9:32:12 PM , Rating: 2
Most users probably have their hands on the mouse the majority of the time anyway, or on neither the mouse or keyboard. I'm not opening and closing the same apps so horribly often that having to use the mouse to click an icon is a big deal, I can't understand that anybody would be. Besides, there's always the Quick Launch toolbar, which for some reason Microsoft decided to hide by default. Restoring that and putting in shortcuts to the most common apps I open is one of the first things I do on any system.

One doesn't need to right-click the volume icon in Windows to change volume, just click and wait one second.

What I don't get is why split keyboards died out. It's SO hard to find any now, and most of them are overpriced or overdesigned with extra buttons I don't need/want.

As for the Wave, it's nothing new. There've even been "gaming" keypads designed like that. But since it's Logitech doing it now, instead of some generic brand or one that doesn't have a big retail presence, it'll sell. Of course, it's probably no better than a flat keyboard in that it'll cover only a portion of the population in terms of finger lengths and agility, it'll just be a different portion than regular keyboards. So maybe in that way it's a good thing, makes it so more people have a more custom fit.

I have to say I haven't seen a Logitech mouse that's been usable for years, since the days of 2 buttons and scroll wheels being the hot new thing. Their keyboards have been completely unimpressive too. But the same goes for Microsoft. Overengineered keyboards and mice with niche features used by a small number of people, while many may buy the mice but not actually use it as anything more than a 2-button scroll mouse. I wonder what the volumes actually are between MS's basic mouse models and the Explorers and others.

I use IntelliMouse Opticals, after sticking with Optical Web (ball) for a long time until optical was good enough. No other design looks the least bit comfortable or as usable. I'm using some generic brand split keyboard that cost 10 dollars, and I bought one for home and one for work. Split keyboards made my wrist pain go away.


RE: Bleh
By Oregonian2 on 7/27/2007 4:27:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The problem nowadays is that people are lazy, one button should do what they want and all the buttons should be in one place. Volume, power, sleep, monitor off, mute, internet, email, search, etc... what is so hard about double clicking OE or Thunderbird icon on the desktop? How hard is it to right click the volume icon in the taskbar? People have gotten lazy...


I quite agree we shouldn't be so lazy. We should use typewriters or use longhand with a pen on paper and then use postal mail. What is our younger generation coming to?


Drivers?
By kelmon on 7/27/2007 3:16:37 AM , Rating: 2
OK, here's the thing. Logitech, I really do like the hardware that you produce. It feels good in the hand and fills the requirements that I have - your VX Revolution is damned close to the perfect laptop mouse in my opinion (previous article comments, however, did suggest that adding Bluetooth would have been a winner in my opinion). Your new keyboard looks really nice and I'd be right there in the queue for one except for one reason...

...your software drivers suck.

The OS X Logitech Control Center software does the following in my experience:

1. Fails to identify the product plugged in, or
2. Crashes my laptop

OS X is renown (more or less) as being a stable OS but yet you manage to produce drivers that crash it. I have uninstalled your killer drivers, am using a 3rd party driver and you know what? IT DOESN"T KILL MY LAPTOP!

Write some decent drivers for the Mac and I'll throw money at you. If someone produces some 3rd party drivers for this keyboard then I'll consider it but I doubt that this will happen.

While this comes from the Mac perspective I have heard that your drivers pretty much blow for Windows as well so sort it out already.




RE: Drivers?
By psypher on 7/27/2007 9:39:36 AM , Rating: 2
being as mac has something like 7% of the market, and most mac users use the pretty white mac peripherals to go with their pretty white computers, I'm sure that logitech isn't too worried about losing your business... mac money is like icing on the cake, not something to define your business from (except for ipod accessories). I know that products should work as advertised, but if a product is pc ready and stable, release it and worry about fixing it for macs later.

(typed on a logitech keyboard with setpoint installed, as well as navigated around with a MX revolution)


RE: Drivers?
By Flunk on 7/27/2007 10:06:08 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't matter anyway, they already have his money.

Macs are terrible for driver support, the only reason it doesn't seem that way is that it is a closed platform so Apple knows what equipment to expect and includes all the necessary drivers so that you don't have any issues. Logitech doesn't have that luxury.


RE: Drivers?
By kelmon on 7/27/2007 11:36:28 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps if Logitech was sued under the Trades Descriptions Act then they might get their act together. If you are going to say that something is "Mac Compatible" then it better damned well be without crashing your computer.

At the end of this there is no excuse for bad drivers, period. If a 3rd party can do a better job than the manufacturer then there's something very wrong.

I should note that Microsoft's drivers were, in my experience, excellent for my old IntelliMouse Explorer. If "the enemy" (just be dramatic here, kids) can do a good job of making Mac drivers then why can't Logitech?


RE: Drivers?
By Lord Evermore on 7/29/2007 9:37:32 PM , Rating: 2
Well you have to prove that it was their drivers and solely their drivers causing the crash. It could be the combination of their drivers which are perfectly good with some other driver or application which has a bug which causes the system to crash when Logitech's drivers interact with it.

Essentially, wipe the hard drive, restore it to the factory state, install the Logitech drivers. If it crashes at that point, then you can blame the drivers. Considering they must not crash every machine, your suit probably wouldn't get anywhere.

Microsoft probably makes good drivers for Apple systems just to help keep the DoJ off their backs. "Look! We not only make software for Macs that's comparable to Windows versions, but we also make sure our hardware works on a Mac!"


groundbreaking?
By mdogs444 on 7/27/2007 8:32:15 AM , Rating: 2
Two things I have never considered "groundbreaking"

1. Keyboards
2. Mice

Yes, we use them more than any other peripheral, but they are two pieces that dont have much room to change and still be effective to average joe user. Sure, you can add more and more buttons to the keyboard for "music", Volume, etc, but its not like they are positioned to where you can hit them in between keystrokes without thinking or looking. YOu cant do much to change a mouse - the "trackball" was ok, but you can't use it for games, its very difficult. And you can add more buttons to them for back, forward, up, down, etc...but in the end, its still an optical mouse with a left button, right button, and wheel.

Big whoop i say.




RE: groundbreaking?
By lumbergeek on 7/27/2007 12:37:42 PM , Rating: 2
I really wish that MS and Logi would refresh the Optical Trackball. True, they're useless for gaming, but I currently have 2 MS Trackball Optical for use. They fit my hand well and I don't have to grip it, which causes tendonitis in my wrists. The Trackball keeps me from having Carpal Tunnel surgery. As for gaming? Sure, they suck. So you plug a regular mouse into a USB port when you're gaming....


RE: groundbreaking?
By emboss on 7/27/2007 2:21:11 PM , Rating: 2
Both keyboards and mice can be groundbreaking if you throw them off something high enough. You can even reach rockbreaking with some rackmount equipment.


RE: groundbreaking?
By Lord Evermore on 7/29/2007 9:39:56 PM , Rating: 2
Terminal velocity might be kinda low, particularly for a keyboard with all those protrusions, and they're so lightweight generally that the momentum is low, so the damage to the ground might not be too much.


Not a headline.
By PaxtonFettel on 7/27/2007 6:06:20 AM , Rating: 2
This appears to be an advert.

For what appears to be a rebranded MS product.

*sigh* Dailytech, I expect better.




RE: Not a headline.
By daBKLYNdoorman on 7/27/2007 7:05:08 AM , Rating: 1
If you're saying this article is like an advertisement, then you might as well say that tens of other articles are also adverts. Just because DailyTech notifies you of new products and their prices doesn't mean that they are trying to convince to buy them.


RE: Not a headline.
By Lord Evermore on 7/29/2007 10:00:22 PM , Rating: 2
It reads like an alternate version of the press release. But that's something that quite a lot of "news" posts on many sites do when they really are just mentioning what a company says in a press release. They could just link to the damn thing and be just as effective.

Describing something as "groundbreaking" and the other adjectives used gives it an air of trying to convince the reader that the writer is actually impressed and advocating whatever the article is about. "News" posts are informative, not opinionated (ideally).

Incidentally, 200 hours is only 8 and a third days. And it's not like we spend more than a few seconds to a few minutes at a time typing. There's also no point of reference. Is 2 million keystrokes actually a lot? I don't know, do you? How did they come up with the calculation of 200 hours for 2 million keystrokes? That's 2.77 keystrokes per second. Is that the actual average? Or do we type faster or slower? Those 2 million keystrokes could as easily have been typed at 1 key per second (and for anybody over about 40, probably are). Or even typing at 2.77 keys per hour, in one year that could mean typing for one minute every 45 minutes. They describe it like we're chained to the keyboard for hours at a time and not able to let our fingers rest for a moment, rather than typing in bursts.

So basically, the idea that this design is automatically going to mean huge comfort changes for everybody is just silly, and they use hyperbole, unsupported numbers, and measurements without scale to make it seem great.


What would be cool is LCDs on all the keyboards
By Sazar on 7/27/2007 4:27:56 PM , Rating: 2
I am addicted to the information I can get from my G-15 keyboard's LCD panel and wish more keyboards adopted something similar.

This is nice in terms of ergonomics but, why not remove some tasks from your screen/sidebar or whatever so it's available at all times (date/time/system temperatures/clock speeds/system usage %'s/game information (i.e. Prey or ET:QW style)/email/whatever else you can program in there).

That would be perfect :)




By Lord Evermore on 7/29/2007 9:44:12 PM , Rating: 2
Proper typing skill means you're looking at the monitor or whatever paper data you're inputting, not your keyboard. I suppose in some limited cases it would be convenient, but it wouldn't be so great that it did something that could't be handled otherwise. A clock on the wall or desk by the monitor, if you need to see the time while in a fullscreen game. Why would you need to see the clock speed continuously? Any of those other things would be such a rare need that it'd be a waste to spend extra on a keyboard like that.


G15 it
By GoodRevrnd on 7/28/2007 4:09:02 AM , Rating: 3
Put the damn wave curve on a G15 and then maybe you'll have something groundbreaking.




Does anyone remember...
By Justin Case on 7/28/2007 9:27:09 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone remember the Cherry ErgoPlus? Now that was a good keyboard. Not only could you adjust the shape (in two axes), but it actually had quality keys, something that can't be said about most modern keyboards.




RE: Does anyone remember...
By mxzrider2 on 7/29/2007 3:35:41 AM , Rating: 1
ever used a saitek eclipse or gamers board? guess not. i have tried all the ergonomic boards and used regular ones all my life. but those boards ( one which is in front of me as i type.) are the best for me. and i beat the shit out of them. this one i have had for 1 year. i take my computer with me to several places and it gets beat around. and since i play games i get frustrated and beat my fists, my head, mouse, throw it and it stills keeps coming back for more. i would not use another type of board unless it can take that kind of abuse and still type with out too much of a leaning curve, we all learned to type on this kind of board, should be easy.


Key depth
By ninjit on 7/27/2007 3:07:31 AM , Rating: 2
I never heard about the MS Comfort curve before you guys mentioned it, but after looking it up I agree this new logitech does look similar, however from what I gathered from their website, the "wave" design actually relates more to depth of the keys:

From some of the profile shots, you can see how the keys seem to form two indentations where the hands would rest - it probably helps promote a more uniform resting bend for all the fingers, personally I can see how this might improve comfort.

Then again, I've been using the same PS2 Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro Mouse/keyboard combo for 11 years now - I've definitely got my money's worth out of them, and they've stood up to abuse for that whole time admirably - but it may be time to upgrade.
:)




Actually...
By Boztech on 7/27/2007 4:57:53 AM , Rating: 2
This is more like the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 without the split in the center.




Not MS Product
By Misty Dingos on 7/27/2007 7:45:07 AM , Rating: 2
And it seems that sadly the Logitech guys seem to be copying designs from MS now and not the other way around. I use a MS 4K at home. I got my boss at work to get me one there also. I would not trade it for anything that Logitech has on the market. WAIT stay your venom for the moment! It looks like to me that the guys at Logitech have finally realized that the straight keyboard is bad. This is all about ergonomics. Something that MS has been doing for a long time. I know that there are some of you out there now so mad that drool is dribbling down your chins. And I am sure that thoughts like this are staining your cortex. "He said straight keyboards are bad! You will never take my straight keyboard from me! Curved is for sissies! Death to the infidel!"

Ergonomics is the key kids.

While living in Alaska I sold firearms (legally) and when someone came to asking what pistol they should buy for personal defense I would put in their hands at least five first rate pistols. They were all good guns but individual ergonomics would mean that invariably one firearm would fit them better than the rest. Everyone's hands are different. So when I bought the MS 4K I had tried out the competition and it fit my hands the best. I do recommend it to anyone who will listen. But then again I recommend ergonomic keyboards to anyone who will listen. I have yet to meet the person that arms are three inches apart (straight keyboards are horrors and should be thrown into the ash can of history).

Now as far as mice go I am still in the Logitech camp (I do not understand how a company can understand ergonomics so well for mice have so ignored it for keyboards.) But I think that MS is catching up and fast.




Groundbreaking?
By Treripica on 7/27/2007 11:11:59 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe 12 years ago.




Wireless Keyboard Only
By BMFPitt on 7/30/2007 10:54:41 AM , Rating: 2
I have a wireless mouse that I like, I want to get a nice wireless keyboard, but it seems like you can't without buying a mouse, too. Why can't they just sell standalone wireless keyboards?




Buggy key placement
By BikeDude on 7/29/2007 3:43:41 PM , Rating: 1
I'm sorry, but the "new" positions for the keys in the middle is just plain wrong.

I have always been puzzled why they grew the Delete key in an area where many users are used to hitting the Home and End keys.




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