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The Lite-On DX-4O1S external drive  (Source: PLDS)
Hook a Blu-ray Disc drive up to your laptop

With Blu-ray Disc now the clear victor in the high-definition format war, those cautious about buying hardware can spend with ease. Those with home theater PCs or laptops will be pleased to learn that Philips & Lite-On Digital Solutions (PLDS) will be soon releasing its first USB external BD-ROM drive in Q2 2008.

“Due to recent market developments we can expect an increasing volume of movies to be released in high definition on Blu-ray Discs,” said Jelmer Veldman, European Marketing Manager at PLDS. “The market adoption of Blu-ray as the optical disc standard for High Definition content results in a growing demand for Blu-ray playback solutions. The portable external Lite-On BD-ROM drive allows users to playback their Blu-ray discs on any PC via a USB 2.0 cable.”

The upcoming model, designated the Lite-On DX-4O1S can read Blu-ray Disc media at 4X, single-layer DVD at 12X, dual-layer DVD at 8X, and CD media at 32X maximum.

Those who prefer internal drives can find the Lite-On Blu-ray Disc drives for around $150.

Alternatively, HTPC addicts may consider the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive, now on clearance for $50. While HD DVD may have limited future potential, the Xbox 360 add-on, which works with natively with Windows Vista, is an affordable option to view today’s high-definition content.



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Hardly
By Yawgm0th on 2/27/2008 6:39:03 PM , Rating: 2
The real first external BD burner: http://www.primera.com/bravo_xr_blu-ray_disc_publi...

Granted, all you need is a IDE to USB bridge board or SATA to USB bridge board. BD-RE works just fine with existing boards. Nevermind eSATA...

Pure marketing fluff to call this the first external BD-RE drive.




RE: Hardly
By AlphaVirus on 2/27/2008 9:21:12 PM , Rating: 2
From the website you posted.
quote:
Ideal for mid- to large-sized companies and organizations including government and military, medical records and imaging systems, banking, insurance, back-up and archival, high-definition video, digital movie post production and more.

So what were you saying?

And might I add
quote:
Just $5,295 (MSRP)

Sooo, when do you plan on buying one of these? If you do get one, buy us all one since you are so rich buddy.


RE: Hardly
By JoshuaBuss on 2/27/2008 11:41:12 PM , Rating: 3
the price doesn't change the fact that it's been out far longer than this.


RE: Hardly
By Yawgm0th on 2/28/2008 3:22:05 AM , Rating: 3
I didn't say it or in anyway imply that it was competition for the device in the article. It did, however, contain the first commercially-available external BD-RE drive, proving the one and only point my post was making.

Thank you for your excellent display of reading comprehension.


RE: Hardly
By AlphaVirus on 2/28/2008 11:16:14 AM , Rating: 1
Apples and Oranges, you are providing a Commercial brand external while the article is showing a consumer brand. Just because it has been out for 10 years does not mean it is a feasible options for the average joe to go to their local walmart and purchse. Also a drive with a base price of over $5,000 is not something a consumer is looking for.

So when do you plan on buying your kid that blackberry again? Or were you planning on the Vertu?

You called the article "market fluff" which was pointless, that was my point.


RE: Hardly
By deeznuts on 2/28/2008 12:51:57 PM , Rating: 2
Article didn't mention commercial vs. consumer, just said "first"

Anyways who cares.


Cool, but...
By porkpie on 2/27/2008 6:43:40 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder if it'll boot a BD movie any faster than my standalone player? Waiting 45 seconds to start watching a movie sucks.




RE: Cool, but...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 2/27/2008 8:59:45 PM , Rating: 4
That's not much of a function of the player as it is a function of the processor behind it. This is why the PS3 is much faster to load a Blu-Ray movie, the hardware is meant to play modern 3D games, playing a movie is a walk in the park. Stand alone players are about playing a movie, and require lower hardware specs, resulting is slower startup and load times.


RE: Cool, but...
By tallcool1 on 2/28/2008 7:39:25 AM , Rating: 2
Which is probably why a lot of people on the AVS forums recommend the PS3 as the best Blu-Ray player available.
Not only does it have a powerful processor, it costs about the same as a stand alone, its fully upgradable to whatever Blu-Ray spec comes out, has wired and wireless internet connectivity, etc...

BTW, will this external blu-ray drive work with a 360?


RE: Cool, but...
By kmshark on 2/28/2008 4:30:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
its fully upgradable to whatever Blu-Ray spec comes out,


I keep seeing people say this about the PS3, but it can NOT support the newer high-definition Audio formats, and no upgrade will fix that. Many can argue that this is irrelevant to most people, but for a videophile like me, it is the reason I don't own a PS3. The PS3 is not any "perfect" blu-ray player, there is no such thing, or even close... HD-DVD was much closer with it's units, just part of the reason I wished they had won.. but I'm happier just that someone won... need LOTR and many many other movies in HD.. can't wait...


RE: Cool, but...
By Mojo the Monkey on 2/29/2008 1:06:07 PM , Rating: 2
I agree that its a superior BD player, but are they ever going to allow more connectivity than bluetooth? An adapter, perhaps?

I am in a situation where its inconvenient to use the PS3 due to lack of RF remote support, or in the alternative, IR relays from an RF receiver. A lot of people are starting to use all-in-one remotes with RF to control their systems, and the ps3 (at least for the moment) is an obstacle to the single-remote goal. I cant REALLY complain, but I'm so close!

maybe i'm wrong... I just didnt find any solution when I checked 2 weeks ago. Other than that, its a great BD player.


Not bad but
By djc208 on 2/27/2008 6:00:09 PM , Rating: 2
Ok, so internal drive in a USB enclosure, not really groundbreaking. The thing that concerns me is that if a bare BD drive is $150, it's going to be a while before a complete player is below $200. Oh well, I'll just keep enjoying my HD-DVD movies until the prices settle out.

I like the idea of integrating one of these into my HTPC but the expense to upgrade it to support HDCP and H.264 playback eat a lot of the cost difference from buying a stand-alone player.




RE: Not bad but
By eye smite on 2/27/2008 6:14:55 PM , Rating: 4
Yeah, I think I'll wait as well, like a yr or so til prices come down out of the clouds. Maybe they'll come down sooner, but I'm thinking they'll stay pricey for a while.


RE: Not bad but
By Screwballl on 2/27/2008 6:42:51 PM , Rating: 2
agreed... I, like a majority of the market, will wait until I have a TV that can display HD content (outside of my recently built PC).
Once the TVs and players come down in price is when more of the market will jump for it. Until then most of us are happy with regular old DVD (and a few VHS only titles)


RE: Not bad but
By daftrok on 2/27/2008 7:00:31 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed. I'm just hoping that the 360 gets a price drop to the holy grail price of 199/299/399 so that the PS3 will be forced down to the 299/399 price and then I can snag the 299 PS3. Ahh what a happy day that will be: a PS3 costing as much as a launch PS2.


RE: Not bad but
By crazyblackman on 2/27/08, Rating: -1
Xbox 360 drive MOUNTS in Vista...
By Anonymous Freak on 2/27/2008 6:20:16 PM , Rating: 2
The Xbox 360 HD DVD drive may mount discs just fine in Vista, but Vista still has no built-in HD DVD playback software. You need something like PowerDVD Ultra to play the content.

Although, I *DID* just pick up one of the XB360 HD DVD drives for $50. I figure for $50, I will get a 'backup' way of playing my movies when my HD DVD drive dies, plus I get six free movies. (Three of which I may have been willing to pay for, which makes it worth $50.) And, once somebody makes a one-step method for ripping HD DVD movies, I'll be set. (I've tried the ten-step method, and it does work, but is time consuming.)




By VoodooChicken on 2/28/2008 1:27:42 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. A LEGAL copy of PowerDVD Ultra comes in at $100, and I haven't had much success with WinDVD or Nero Showtime with hi def movies of either format.

PLUS, even though Windows XP and Vista recognize the drive, you can't update the firmware and HDCP through Windows Update. I had to get my brother to flash the drive with the October Update to get anything newer beyond King Kong to work.

Now there's a new problem cropping up with PowerDVD, so far Across the Universe (Blu) is the only problem movie I have, but there's no selectable controls or direct access to anything beyond the menu.

So stick with Blu 2.0 standalone players unless you REALLY like tinkering with HTPCs


Stupid
By zaki on 2/27/08, Rating: 0
RE: Stupid
By crazyblackman on 2/27/08, Rating: -1
RE: Stupid
By whirabomber on 2/28/2008 7:49:41 AM , Rating: 2
You mean like my PS3 that died due to a fan failure and has a title listing roughly the same size as the list of new GameCube games? Or the fact that if I have to send off my 360 I can keep my hard drive, but my PS3 was simply swapped out for a refurb (new??) without swapping out my HD hence loosing anything I had saved on my original PS3's HD? Like I love spending hours fiddling with PS3's lowest common denominator store to re-find my favorite trailers, demos, add-ons, etc? Give me a break.

Anyways, I bought another 360 HD DVD player as a spare, and if I were to pay $10 a piece for the "free 5 movies" I will essentially be getting a free, spare 360 HD DVD player. That and I can still get HD DVD movies at least the end of March, even longer for a few companies (Dream Works for one).

Oh, per the "rebate" form, today is the last day (28 Feb) to buy (at least) a 360 HD DVD and get the free movies. Ironic if you think about it...

In other notes, HD DVD *really* isn't dead - it is Monty Python Holy Grail dead. Samsung is still going to make its combo drive, a few movie houses are locked into HD DVD only, you can buy combo drives for your PC, and unlike Betamax tapes, well cared for HD DVDs won't wear out any time soon.

And sadly, even thought HD DVD is just wheezing, Blu-ray is a step back technology wise from HD DVD. Blu-ray needs a new version (2.0) to have what HD DVD started off with (PIP, download on demand, online updates, etc). HD DVD (disks) is cheap and easy to produce, blu-ray (disks) required some re-tooling to manufacture. I guess this whole format war is akin to finding the winner of "the Bachelor" had stuffed her bra, has false teeth, and is only 16.


RE: Stupid
By zaki on 2/28/2008 12:39:41 PM , Rating: 2
good story


RE: Stupid
By crazyblackman on 2/28/08, Rating: 0
Yawn....
By kilkennycat on 2/27/2008 7:41:27 PM , Rating: 1
For my PC, I shall just wait for the sub-$100 Blu-ray burner. Should be here by the end of 2008, since Sony recently announced a manufacturing-cost breakthrough on the Blu-ray laser assemblies.




RE: Yawn....
By djc208 on 2/28/2008 7:05:30 AM , Rating: 2
I'll believe it when I see it. A PC read-only BD drive may drop below $100 before the end of the year but I wouldn't expect the burners to get there anytime soon.


And!
By Cygni on 2/27/2008 6:00:28 PM , Rating: 2
And the 5 free movies deal still applies on the 360 drive, for a few more days.




The Xbox DX-4O1S?
By Lord 666 on 2/27/2008 6:13:44 PM , Rating: 2
So how long will it be before there is a Xbox 360 version?




RE: The Xbox DX-4O1S?
By crazyblackman on 2/27/08, Rating: -1
RE: The Xbox DX-4O1S?
By DingieM on 2/28/2008 4:17:21 AM , Rating: 1
Nothing to do with ignorance, which makes you quite ignorant of the situation and thoughts of others.

I have an Xbox360 and willing to purchase the coming Blu-Ray add-on, if its not to expensive. I have a real life to conduct too you know.

Wow you mean to say PS3 is the real next-gen and the Xbox360 is not? Wake up dude, I don't really call a device with an underdeveloped graphics processing unit next-gen (PS3).
The PS3 isn't blowing the Xbox360 out of the water at all, and its not going to either in the long run if you understand technology inside and developer friendliness.
And in a couple of years the new gen will be coming. And there is always the choice for a PC.

Or just wait for a stand-alone Blu-Ray player which does cost a lot less than a PS3. Don't expect the PS3 to drop further in price anytime soon.


RE: The Xbox DX-4O1S?
By anonymo on 2/28/08, Rating: 0
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