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Former Linspire CEO bumps heads with current Linspire CEO

The recent announcement regarding the sale of Linspire to Xandros caused a mini-uproar in the Linux community, with shareholders a bit baffled by the company's sale to Xandros.  The latest critic of the deal who has been angered is Linspire's former president and CEO, Kevin Carmony, who voiced his displeasure in several blog postings.

After coming into existence in 2001, Linspire, formerly known as Lindows, was one of the first companies to try and market the Linux operating system specifically to Microsoft Windows users.  After coming under legal fire from Microsoft over alleged trademark infringement, Lindows became Linspire, and continued to push its OS.

Linspire and Freespire received lukewarm support over the years, though gained notoriety with its Click 'N Run service that gives users the opportunity to run applications from other Linux distributions in Linspire.  The company's latest OS, Linspire 6.0, was not well met among Linux enthusiasts, and the company quietly faded back into the shadows.

Xandros has transitioned away from home users and now offers its OS to companies to bundle with their low-cost notebooks and PCs, such as the ASUS Eee PC and similar products.

Current Linspire CEO Michael Robertson justified the sale of the company, with the deal stemming from "years of frustration in trying to achieve the goal of desktop Linux."  Although products such as the ASUS Eee PC, smartphones and similar products offers an appealing market for Linux, Robertson was extremely frustrated that he couldn't bring Linux to the masses.

Minority shareholders, including Carmony, were not given much forewarning into the deal, who posted the three-paragraph letter to shareholders onto the Internet.

In a blog posting, Carmony calls the deal a "midnight, back room sell off" that took place without a proper shareholder meeting.  He goes on to state the deal was made to help "Robertson drain the company of its cash and resources," "help Roberston save face," and "give Xandros a press release and perhaps some way for them to spin this to investors to raise money."

Robertson responded by stating all Linspire assets related to the sale will eventually be distributed among all 100 Linspire shareholders.  Preferred stockholders, who offered up the most cash when the company was started, will be the first to receive their shares.  Robertson and company also will not be forced to hold a stockholders meeting because of Delaware law that says a public meeting isn't required to sell the company.



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Good
By mendocinosummit on 7/7/2008 10:40:20 AM , Rating: 2
I don't care how or why it was done. This needs to keep happening so we have around two Linux OS's to compete against windows. Currently there are to many for many common programs and games to take Linux seriously.




RE: Good
By Inkjammer on 7/7/2008 12:11:50 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, and not even the Linux geeks are able to really agree on the "definitive" distro. Linux has a lot of potential, but it's openness is what holds it back at times because of the endless variety (and compatability issues therein).


RE: Good
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/7/2008 1:38:50 PM , Rating: 2
Sad but true. The Linux geeks want the total freedom they currently enjoy but fail to recognize that the world just doesn't work that way.


RE: Good
By Ringold on 7/7/08, Rating: 0
RE: Good
By sprockkets on 7/7/2008 5:11:06 PM , Rating: 4
So, your Firefox, Thunderbird, Audacity, SumatraPDF, GIMP, VLC, OpenOffice, MySQL, Apache Web Server, PHP, WinDirStat, XMPEG, LAME, ogg/Vorbis, FLAC, winLAME, Blender, x264, Portableapps.com, HandBrake, all suffer from being GPL or opensource? All have usability issues? Sure, some are more popular than others, but I fail to see how Firefox is held back.

Vorbis was developed so that people could stop worrying about who owns the MP3 format. From what we have seen, since so many claim to own it due to patents, Microsoft was on the short end of the stick on their infringement case.

You do realize it was the open sourcing of the defunct Netscape browser that led to Mozilla, then to the stand alone browser Phoeniz, then to Firebird, to the current Firefox?

Or, Netscape could have just let it die and we would be all still using IE6 and its wonderful "standards"?

Do you really think that these apps could be developed as well as they are without the community help? While it is fine that uTorrent is not open source, what does it stand to lose by doing so? If someone took the code and made it better, it would have to be just as open as the previous version.

Do you really think you can develop something as complex as an OS with just a handful of paid developers? Microsoft spent billions to make Vista, and what did that give them?

There are a lot of good projects that die and thanks to the GPL, someone picks up where they left behind.

Have you ever suspected GPL software of spyware? Can you say the same for closed software? Hard to hide spyware in human readable source code.

Sorry Master Kenobi, we don't have any need to sacrifice our freedoms for market share.


RE: Good
By InternetGeek on 7/7/2008 6:37:52 PM , Rating: 2
You make it sound as if closed-source software was made with the intention of spying of you because only 3-4 people are involved in the software process. There's actually a lot of people around the world that have to the source if they are part of the project. And people who use the software and review the way it behaves so there's nothing there they cannot like. For example, .NET 1 was made open source and there wasn't any report of spyware of any kind in it. If anything, if you want quality software look for it from known sources (being a neutral as I can here).

When he said usability I don't think he refers only to UI. But also to software that works well with each other. Not as part of a process but to satisfy a person's needs. Ever tried to copy paste between several different applications in Linux? Yeah they've come a long way in that area, but there's still a lot of improvements to make. In Windows, you already have that, all the way through. Same applies to a lot of other things in Linux when compared to Windows. It's only a matter of Software Engineering, not of how great a coder you are.

It is a matter of market share. Personal freedoms have nothing to do with software. Privacy, in other hand, does. And it's only a matter of best practices and such.


RE: Good
By MamiyaOtaru on 7/8/2008 7:24:56 AM , Rating: 3
The Linux geeks want the total freedom they currently enjoy but fail to recognize that the world just doesn't work that way.

I think we do recognize it. But we are not the world. We want it our way.

That's another thing they need to work on in the growing up process; realizing that 95% of the people using software could not care less if they have access to the source code

Duh. If you don't care about the source code, I don't really care if you use Linux. Don't. People should stop trying to make it something it isn't and just stay with Windows.

Of course there is a group of OSS evangelists who seem to think everyone should use Windows. Well, I agree; they should grow up. And the rest of you should stay away.

Open source is not a featured selling point.

It is for us. Again, the rest of you can GTFO and use Windows (or OSX).

If Linux should ever happen to receive the polish you crave, feel free to try it but don't ever expect polish > Open Source.


RE: Good
By MamiyaOtaru on 7/8/2008 7:28:08 AM , Rating: 2
"Of course there is a group of OSS evangelists who seem to think everyone should use Windows." should read "Of course there is a group of OSS evangelists who seem to think everyone should use OSS ".

I even previewed, several times :( First class tickets on the failtrain.


RE: Good
By InternetGeek on 7/7/2008 4:38:54 PM , Rating: 2
Man, at least some sense in this OS debate. Technology should be transparent because 90% of people dont know, dont care and are not interested in technology itself. They want to solve their problem. And they want to do cool stuff.

If you guys read Citibank's ATM article yesterday and thought nothing much of it, I was actually scared. There's a bunch of cyber-criminals making us look stupid and making people think the old ways were better, while we're stuck discussing the philosophy of software.

If anything we should be working to make things operate with each other in the best way.


RE: Good
By jonmcc33 on 7/8/2008 7:30:15 AM , Rating: 2
Be careful, you might get attacked by some Ubuntu fanatics. The only distro of Linux I ever really liked (after trying all the popular ones) was OpenSUSE. That's because Novell took the time to put some polish and quality into the product.

Being purely open source isn't the way. Making a high quality product worth replacing Windows will be what wins people over.


RE: Good
By Screwballl on 7/7/2008 4:09:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This needs to keep happening so we have around two Linux OS's to compete against windows.


exactly... right now Ubuntu seems to be leading the pack and going in the right direction. If there are too many to choose from then support will be sporadic... its like all the different versions of Vista... pick one or two and stick with it and support it. But do NOT get so limited that it becomes OSuX


Ubuntu FTW
By mattclary on 7/7/2008 10:57:47 AM , Rating: 2
Canonical is irrelevant




RE: Ubuntu FTW
By mattclary on 7/7/2008 10:58:34 AM , Rating: 2
OOPS!!! I meant Linspire is irrelevant. :embarassed:


RE: Ubuntu FTW
By mendocinosummit on 7/7/2008 2:28:06 PM , Rating: 2
I like Ubuntu.


RE: Ubuntu FTW
By Omega215D on 7/7/2008 2:52:56 PM , Rating: 2
nah, i'm not into pokemon =P

http://xkcd.com/178/


RE: Ubuntu FTW
By mendocinosummit on 7/7/08, Rating: 0
"Let's face it, we're not changing the world. We're building a product that helps people buy more crap - and watch porn." -- Seagate CEO Bill Watkins



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