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  (Source: Washington Post)
A court-ordered injunction has permanently shut down the popular file-sharing site.

It's the day the music died for one well-known p2p music sharing site. Limewire is out of the file-sharing business.  

In response to a lawsuit filed four years ago by the Recording Industry Association of America, earlier this year, the courts found the p2p file-sharing site 
liable for copyright infringement.   On Tuesday, the U.S. District Court in New York took it a step further and forced the Lime Company to shut down Limewire for good with a permanent injunction.

The permanent injunction calls for Limewire to disable the searching, downloading, uploading or file trading of its p2p software and to block the sharing of unauthorized music files.

Judge Kimba Wood ruled that record companies "have suffered – and will continue to suffer – irreparable harm from LimeWire's inducement of widespread infringement of their works".

The Lime Company put up a legal notice on the Limewire site that states:

This is an official notice that LimeWire is under a court-ordered injunction to stop distributing and supporting its file-sharing software. Downloading or sharing copyrighted content without authorization is illegal.

In a press release issued by the Lime Company, Limewire's CEO George Searle said, "Naturally, we’re disappointed with this turn of events. We are extremely proud of our pioneering history and have, for years, worked hard to bridge the gap between technology and content rights holders. However, at this time, we have no option but to cease further distribution and support of our software."

Lime Group spokeswoman Tiffany Guarnaccia maintained that the company will not go out of business. Limewire will continue to operate its online store and the company has made plans to launch a subscription based music service on the site.

While this is a victory for the RIAA, users are already moving to other file-hosting sites, like Rapid Share, MegaUpload and Frostwire, according to some reports.

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Three points of light
By ElementZero on 10/27/2010 10:24:41 AM , Rating: 5
Only three points to be made here:

1) While I don't necessarily condone the music "sharing" *cough* piracy *cough* business, the RIAA does suck
2) Like the last paragraph stated - one p2p file sharing app down, 5 more come to life
3) People moved on from Limewire a long time ago, so it hardly has any effect to the piracy scene anyways. This would be comparative to someone today saying "Hey! We just banned leaded gas in our state!"

RE: Three points of light
By Luticus on 10/27/2010 10:45:39 AM , Rating: 5
I quit using lime waire a LONG time ago. Limewire is like a corner girl... sure, she'll turn tricks but she'll also leave you with an infected dippy stick!

RE: Three points of light
By billshut on 10/27/2010 7:17:46 PM , Rating: 3
Hell yes! The last 4-5 years, Limewire has probably had just as many, if not more, Trojans as it's had legitimate files to be shared!

Every time I see someone's computer with Limewire, I advise them to get rid of it. Every time I see someone that paid for Limewire pro, I shed a tear for their stupidity. :(

RE: Three points of light
By Lerianis on 10/28/2010 4:24:32 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. Personally, I switched over to Shareaza, before I dropped ED2K and Gnutella totally, a long time ago.

Shareaza is open-source, made by someone who actually cares about ease of use and performance, etc. etc. etc.

Way better than LimeWire ever was.

RE: Three points of light
By Denigrate on 10/27/2010 10:45:41 AM , Rating: 3
I don't believe that file sharing actually hurts record labels as much as they would like everyone to believe. The percentage is likely immaterial.

The quality of the record labels product is the real issue. In today's market, record labels should be obsolete anyway. The "service" they provide can be done by the artists themselves. Currently, the only money most artists make is from tours/live shows.

RE: Three points of light
By Denigrate on 10/27/2010 10:47:26 AM , Rating: 3
Oh, and if you like an arist. Go see them live, and buy their music via download. Don't steal it.

RE: Three points of light
By SlyNine on 10/27/2010 10:53:50 AM , Rating: 2
You and I have different definitions of the word "steal". But I do agree you should support content you enjoy.

RE: Three points of light
By Luticus on 10/27/2010 10:56:51 AM , Rating: 2
Absolutely, unless you want your favorite artist to give up creating art because they can't support themselves anymore.

RE: Three points of light
By Chudilo on 10/27/2010 11:46:06 AM , Rating: 5
I would like Britney Spears and Lady Gaga to stop creating junk that the recording industry is trying to pass as art, but I don't think they will hear me!
If the recording industry started listening to people that can actually pay for music they want to listen to, instead of listening to 10-15yr olds that scream the loudest, maybe they would be able to make some money.

This may come as a surprise to the Recording Industry but I got news for them : "Most Grownups have no time to sit around looking for a place to steal music. Grownups know what they want and are willing to pay a reasonable amount for what they want."

Let me buy the songs that I want (individually in full non-lossy quality) and play stuff that I might also like based on what I bought(as ads for other things they might want me to hear). I think Pandora and Similar services got the right idea.That's all there is to it.

I don't care what these people wear, who they sleep with or what they said about who/whatever. I just want to listen to good music whenever I feel like like it, on whatever the player I have, without having to deal with all the DRM B.S. and other crap they want to throw at me.

The artists contract with the recording industry to help them store what they have created and distribute it to the people that want to pay for it. The rest of the crap they do is a waste of time for them and the consumers. So unless they can pay for the rest of the crap with ads, and ads alone, stop holding your potential customers for ransom for the crap they never wanted.

RE: Three points of light
By Luticus on 10/27/2010 12:07:15 PM , Rating: 2
I agree 100%

RE: Three points of light
By sprockkets on 10/27/2010 10:35:57 PM , Rating: 2
I would like Britney Spears and Lady Gaga to stop creating junk that the recording industry is trying to pass as art, but I don't think they will hear me!

Would you enjoy this?

Unfortunately, smut sells. She made nothing compared to what she makes now. The market has spoken.

RE: Three points of light
By LordanSS on 10/27/2010 11:43:28 AM , Rating: 5
There's a lot of "digital music piracy" going on, and a good deal of that is caused by the record labels/RIAA themselves.

I haven't bought a single music CD for over 8 years, up until recently. During one of the times I had to move, some of my CDs went missing (don't get me started on that), including my favorite from my Kiss collection, the Alive III album.

Tried to find that CD for sale locally here in Brazil, to no avail. After the death of music stores (they pretty much ceased to exist in here, you either buy CDs on large department stores or "hypermarkets", and they only sell current trash, not older classics). I actually found one copy for sale on an used CD store, but the disc was pretty scratched and I didn't want to buy it like that.

Turned my attention to online stores, like Amazon and *gasps* even iTunes. Yeah, they had the album... they had the tracks.... but nope, they won't sell to me. Country not supported.

Luckily, a friend of mine from the UK was coming over for a visit, so I asked him if he could bring me the CD in case I bought from Amazon-UK and had it shipped to him. I went the long way to try and get my hands on an original, but I bet many people around here, that were willing to make the purchase, just ended giving up and torrenting the MP3s from somewhere. My CD is stored, but now I have FLACs out of it ;)

In short, to hell with you RIAA and even game publishers. You folks have no idea how hard it is for us, in South America, to get this kind of stuff. Steam, D2D and Impulse have helped me a lot, but if a publisher blocks a title from being sold to my region, I'm SOL. Lame.

RE: Three points of light
By Spivonious on 10/27/2010 11:32:36 AM , Rating: 1
I agree with you when it comes to major labels (and members of the RIAA), but many small record labels pour money into supporting musicians that they contract.

Pirating music hurts everyone. The band might get a couple more people at shows, but sales of records go down the tubes, record companies don't get the money to support and promote the musicians, and the musicians are unable to live off of their art, even though tens of thousands of people listen to them.

RE: Three points of light
By just4U on 10/27/2010 11:48:42 AM , Rating: 2
"..... and the musicians are unable to live off their art."

Really? Most musician's don't make a whole helluva lot off of record sales. Infact very few do. The money they make comes from the venue they play at. Music downloads don't really hurt them at all.. Infact for many it likely gives them more exposure then what they might otherwise be used to.

RE: Three points of light
By donjuancarlos on 10/27/2010 1:33:44 PM , Rating: 2
The quality of products definitely has decreased. But it's because Record labels can't afford to take chances on original artists anymore. Hence all the cheesy straight-off-the-assembly-line pop crap.

About time.
By Chris Peredun on 10/27/2010 12:08:09 PM , Rating: 3
As far as computers that have been brought to me for repair/reformat, the ratio of "has Limewire installed" to "infected with a veritable cornucopia of viruses, spyware, and trojans" has been pretty much 1:1.

RE: About time.
By Luticus on 10/27/2010 12:21:34 PM , Rating: 2
I second this! Limewire = impending virus...

RE: About time.
By ninjaquick on 10/27/2010 12:26:17 PM , Rating: 2
Oh man soooooo true... So true. I have not once fixed a computer that wasn't dead due to Ares or Limewire.

RE: About time.
By The Raven on 10/27/2010 3:11:38 PM , Rating: 2
Guns don't kill people: people kill people

Limewire doesn't infect computers... ;-)

RE: About time.
By Targon on 10/27/2010 6:04:17 PM , Rating: 2
No, Limewire is an infection in its own right.

RE: About time.
By The Raven on 10/29/2010 11:46:55 AM , Rating: 2
Freedom is also infectious ;-)

RE: About time.
By fcx56 on 10/28/2010 7:20:29 AM , Rating: 2
...computers infect computers?

Oh, wait, with Limewire they do!

RE: About time.
By The Raven on 10/29/2010 11:48:36 AM , Rating: 2

RE: About time.
By Lerianis on 10/28/2010 4:26:35 AM , Rating: 2
Hmm.... question here: is it ONLY computers that have Limewire installed, or those that have ANY ED2K or Gnutella software installed?

If it is the former..... I'm thinking perhaps Limewire was purposefully shipped with a trojan horse.

What next?
By tayb on 10/27/2010 9:46:59 PM , Rating: 2
City of Dallas is sued by MADD because some drunk guy drove on the roads they paved?

File sharing isn't illegal. Providing means to share files isn't illegal. This ruling is nonsense.

RE: What next?
By Lerianis on 10/28/2010 4:28:13 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I really hope that Limewire appeals the decision to the Supreme Court, because it is an ASININE decision that forgets safe harbor and numerous other facets of law.

The Horror!
By Hyperion1400 on 10/27/2010 1:21:07 PM , Rating: 2
Judge Kimba Wood ruled that record companies "have suffered – and will continue to suffer – irreparable harm from LimeWire's inducement of widespread infringement of their works".

Oh the suffering! What ever will the record companies do with the billions of dollars they already make in a year? They may have to downgrade from an Olympic sized swimming pool filled with dimes to a more reasonably sized pool.

Can't stop the signal
By DominionSeraph on 10/27/2010 1:26:45 PM , Rating: 2
Now seeding Limewire Pro.

By sweetspot on 10/27/2010 2:11:09 PM , Rating: 2
The main deal with digital downloading most folks dont realize and the long term effects, and what type of media to use going forward for such cases.

1. LP Records - not in use anymore
2 Casset tapes - not in use anymore
2. CD Roms - in use but sliding away
3. digital downloads - in use but for how long

See the trend in technology, the point being if you like old music or even newer stuff, how do you preserve, your right to keep and use what you paid for when technology changes.

You are forced to re-pay for the new format even though you paid for those songs already.

Technology changing re-purchases has nothing to do with the bands or music industry at all, as the songs dont change, just the media delivery systems do.

How about when that digital download site goes out of business, then how will someone get a copy of what they paid for, if they lose their mps aka Hard drive crash or something, and with bad economy, businesses are folding quickly now. How long will a digital site be up 5 maybe 10 years ?

Think long term and you will see how these effect things better. Short term effects, most folks dont see or realize when they spend what will happen later on.

99% of the world is short term thinkers, which is why most of the worlds people are genreally poor.

Prison time should be mandatory
By Beenthere on 10/27/10, Rating: -1
RE: Prison time should be mandatory
By geddarkstorm on 10/27/2010 2:09:45 PM , Rating: 4
Yes, because downloading or sharing a digital song is worst than say arson, or burglary, or any non violent/drug felony, all of which on average have less than a five year sentence! Surely, you are a forefront of reason, for obviously sharing digital songs is even more evil than burning down a church.

You know, how about we leave prisons for those who are ACTUALLY A DANGER TO SOCIETY and thus need to be penned up for everyone's protection. That would save us on a lot of money, space, time, and retardedness.

I'm sorry, but sharing songs may be a civil court problem, but it's still the lowest order of "crime" I can even imagine. Now, making PROFIT off of it, without all due royalties, now you've actually taken a step into a real crime and violation; but that's still civil court.

RE: Prison time should be mandatory
By acer905 on 10/27/2010 2:27:57 PM , Rating: 2
Well, he did say "all facilitators of piracy"

Now, this is where things get a bit tricky. Who exactly fits that definition. Generally in the pirating world there are people who upload, and people who download. (With the fun mid ground of torrent engines, where generally everyone does both)

Based on this, the facilitator would seem to be the uploader, because they are creating an unauthorized copy of something. However, because of the way that downloading works, the downloader is also creating a copy. So, are both facilitators? Or does the classic principle apply.

Generally, anything broadcast over public airwaves is free for anyone to use, with the only significant exception being profiting from it (at least during a time other than its broadcast, i don't recall anything stating you can't charge admission to your house for people to see something as it is broadcasted) Based on the freedom of the airwaves, you can record anything for personal use.

An extension of this would seem to indicate that anything that has ever been broadcasted on open airwaves is free for anyone to utilize because ultimately the broadcasters have paid for the content. Radio stations have commercials for the same reasons networks do, to fund content.

The station gets content receivers, which in turn makes the advertisers want to give money to the station. The station uses the money to pay the content providers to give them content. This new content attracts/keeps the content receivers. All the content is paid for, with the rights for anyone to receive it. Essentially, broadcast media belongs to the public.

So then, really the only facilitators of piracy seem to be the ones who make available content which has, at the point of availability, never appeared in broadcast form.

By The Raven on 10/27/2010 3:22:00 PM , Rating: 2
Well, he did say "all facilitators of piracy"

Well, he did say...

Yes, because downloading or sharing a digital song is worst than say arson, or burglary, or any non violent/drug felony, all of which on average have less than a five year sentence!

I think you missed his point.
This goes for uploaders and the software coders and those with servers directing people to the content (or actually hosting the content itself).

RE: Prison time should be mandatory
By iceonfire1 on 10/27/2010 2:12:41 PM , Rating: 2
No kidding! If only we had thought to imprison those bastards who came up with the Internet!

By The Raven on 10/27/2010 3:26:28 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah!! Now we just have to go after phpBB, AT&T, Rapidshare, Microsoft, ...

Get your pitchforks people!!!

RE: Prison time should be mandatory
By JakLee on 10/27/2010 5:02:07 PM , Rating: 3
wait, what? Why is Al Gore going to prison for teh interwebs?

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