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Lenovo Q100  (Source: Engadget)
Lenovo offers new computing devices for home users

Lenovo was one of the later entrants into the netbook market with its S10 and S12 machines. The company is also getting into the nettop market and has announced three new computers that are aimed at home users.

The Lenovo IdeaCenter D400 home server is intended to host and store digital content on a home network like photos, video, and music from multiple computers. The D400 supports up to 8TB of storage cobbled together from different types and capacity hard drives. Other features of the D400 include quintet of USB ports and an eSATA port for external storage. The D400 will start at $499.

Lenovo also unveiled the IdeaCenter Q100 and its big brother the Q110 nettops. The main difference between the two is that the Q110 sports some NVIDIA Ion action. Both of the nettops cram their hardware into the same 6 x 6.3 x 0.7 inch chassis and run Atom 230 CPUs, 1GB of RAM for the Q100 and 2GB of RAM for the Q110, 160GB of HDD storage for the Q100 and the Q110 gets 250GB.

The Q100 runs Windows XP and only sucks down 14 watts of power when idle and 40 watts at full load. The Q110 runs Windows Vista and has an HDMI out for connecting to your big screen. The Q100 will sell for about $249, the Q110 will sell for $349, and they should ship in September.

Lenovo also pulled the wraps off an IdeaCenter Q700 multimedia system that is described as a DVD-like home theater PC. The machine promises connectivity for cameras, smartphones, and other devices allowing the video stored on them to be seen in HD on the big TV. The machine sports Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs and up to 1TB of storage.



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Q110... Atom 330?
By therealnickdanger on 8/19/2009 11:40:45 AM , Rating: 5
Seems like a waste of the Ion platform to not use the dual-core Atom. In either case, the computer is still CPU-limited, but why not give it every fighting chance? It seems counterintuitive to supply a "nettop" with Ion and HDMI output, which implies attaching it to 1080p display, then cripple it with a single-core Atom.

Perhaps they will learn their lesson and release a Q120.




RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By Parhel on 8/19/2009 11:56:22 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. The chips aren't so different in price or power requirements either. Doesn't make sense. It could probably handle running most emulators, though, which is why I'd consider one. But put the 330 in it and I'm sold.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By MikeMurphy on 8/19/2009 4:05:18 PM , Rating: 2
I'm waiting for a device like this based on a dual-core Atom, ION chipset and a simple built-in TV tuner.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By iamezza on 8/19/2009 11:58:26 AM , Rating: 1
and while they are at it why not put Windows 7 on it too? A single core atom and Vista would run slow as molasses but a dual core and 7 might be respectable.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By BZDTemp on 8/19/2009 12:24:29 PM , Rating: 2
W7 is not here just yet.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By iamezza on 8/25/2009 5:33:33 PM , Rating: 2
While it hasn't been publicly released, the manufacturers already have the final version of Windows 7. And waiting for it's release would only delay the product for 1 month and it would run much better.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By EasyC on 8/19/2009 12:14:35 PM , Rating: 2
I absolutely agree. I assembled an nVidia ION system much like this for the same price. 150$ for the Atom330/ION mobo, 45$ for 4GB's of ram, 85$ for case w/powersupply and 320GB 7200 notebook hard drive for like 75$.

I used this machine to replace my cable box lol. I need to upgrade it though because the 330 can't keep up with full screen flash.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By Parhel on 8/19/2009 12:21:01 PM , Rating: 2
What mobo and case did you use, if you don't mind me asking?


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By EasyC on 8/19/2009 4:46:49 PM , Rating: 2
mobo: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/ipx7a_ion330

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...

its one of the smallest cases I was able to find. It's a smidge bigger than 1/2 a PS3. I built it for gaming (ROMS) / media pc that was hooked into my home theatre system.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By 91TTZ on 8/19/2009 1:46:00 PM , Rating: 2
That seems like a lot of money for the performance that's delivered. I built an Athlon X2 7850 system for less than that and it's quite a bit faster. I guess if your primary constraint was heat dissipation then the Atom system is worth it, but in most cases people are buying them for the hype and nothing else.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By EasyC on 8/19/2009 4:41:49 PM , Rating: 2
You can build a faster system, but its not necessarily less. The main cost difference here is mobo/cpu because HD and RAM are the same. I can't find any mini-itx boards for Intel or AMD that match the onboard 9400. Not to mention the AMD processors are most 65W+ which requires a bigger powersupply. Now you are starting to get into the bigger cases and more power consumption.

For the person who wants a capable system that uses very little power, the ION/330 combo is the best.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By sdsdv10 on 8/19/2009 5:25:09 PM , Rating: 5
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I need to upgrade it though because the 330 can't keep up with full screen flash.

For the person who wants a capable system that uses very little power, the ION/330 combo is the best.


Not trying to be a jerk here, but how can it be "the best", if it already needs upgrading because it can't do something you would like it to do?


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By EasyC on 8/20/2009 6:16:12 AM , Rating: 2
I wish there was an edit button. I tested out full screen flash on my netbook (1.6ghz single core atom) and it works fine. So I gotta tweak the software settings or double check the drivers instead.

And not trying to be a jerk here, but if you read my post I state its the best solution for low power and small form factor PCs.


RE: Q110... Atom 330?
By 91TTZ on 8/20/2009 10:06:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
You can build a faster system, but its not necessarily less.


Yes, I built it for less money. I saw the prices that you said you spent, and I bought my parts for less than that.


Tip of the hat from a hater.
By Smilin on 8/19/2009 11:44:30 AM , Rating: 3
So I'm not a big Lenovo (or IBM) fan but that's some slick looking engineering and I must give them props.

Although I won't be buying one I wish them the best of luck in whipping (and motivating) some competitors with this.




RE: Tip of the hat from a hater.
By MrBlastman on 8/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: Tip of the hat from a hater.
By Parhel on 8/19/2009 12:10:28 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Lenovo acquired the rights to IBM's PC division back in 2005. They have nothing to do with IBM anymore.


True, but they were the manufacturing partner for a long time before that.

quote:
As for Lenovo though, they are Chinese. For that reason alone they are likely to suffer quality issues until the Chinese figure out that cheap is not always the best way to go.


Have you ever used a Thinkpad, or had to support them? They're the highest quality business class laptop on the market, bar none.


RE: Tip of the hat from a hater.
By VaultDweller on 8/19/2009 12:17:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Have you ever used a Thinkpad, or had to support them? They're the highest quality business class laptop on the market, bar none.


Depends on the product line. The new low-end SL series is probably on par with most other brands, but doesn't really live up to the ThinkPad name.

The T and R series ThinkPads, though, are probably the most robust notebooks on the market.


RE: Tip of the hat from a hater.
By Belard on 8/19/2009 3:01:09 PM , Rating: 2
The SL is fine. Its really more like a slick modern version of an R series with less options, but built in mass production.

Screen, keyboard, electronics, etc... all good.

If someone wants an affordable Thinkpad, the SL500 starts at about $550 (Core2Duo / 2GB) which is about $50~100 cheaper than the R-Series.

A co-worker has a SL, its a good unit. Easily better than typical HP.


RE: Tip of the hat from a hater.
By MrBlastman on 8/19/2009 12:31:58 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, I've used Thinkpads; though to be fair I have not used one in two or three years. I have no idea how their quality is nowadays actually. In the past though, when Thinkpads were part of the IBM brand, I always held them in high regards. I suppose you could say I was using this as an opportunity to sensationalize the Chinese quality problems without regards to the brand. :)


RE: Tip of the hat from a hater.
By Parhel on 8/20/2009 10:31:39 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I suppose you could say I was using this as an opportunity to sensationalize the Chinese quality problems without regards to the brand.


That really made me laugh. :)

I think a few years ago a lot of people were worried that the transition would result in lower quality Thinkpads, but that hasn't been the case at all.

In fact, my dad bought an IdeaPad (their new home model notebooks) a few months ago, and it was remarkably solid as well.


RE: Tip of the hat from a hater.
By 91TTZ on 8/19/2009 1:52:16 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
As for Lenovo though, they are Chinese. For that reason alone they are likely to suffer quality issues until the Chinese figure out that cheap is not always the best way to go. I'm sure their manufacturing standards will improve, it has to--or more people will suck down melamine and other wonderful chemicals.


There is nothing stopping the Chinese from producing high quality products like everyone else. The only reason that they often aim for the low end is because they are extremely competitive in that area due to the low cost of labor.

High end products like the MacBook Pro are made in China, too.


By SilthDraeth on 8/19/2009 11:32:02 PM , Rating: 2
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