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LG Android devices will receive 4.0 in 2012

Not to be outdone by the likes of Samsung and HTC, LG Mobile announced yesterday on its official Facebook page that its Android phones would also be receiving Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich).

The Seoul-based electronics manufacturer has been taking a beating in the smartphone market, despite its Optimus line of Android devices.

But it hasn't given up on Android, as evidenced by yesterdays announcement of a "global upgrade" for its range of devices, beginning in the second quarter of 2012 with the LG Optimus LTE, Prada phone by LG 3.0, Optimus 2X, Optimus Sol, my Touch Q, and the LG Eclipse.

The LG Optimus 3D, Optimus Black, Optimus Big, Optimus Q2, and Optimus EX will also receive Ice Cream Sandwich, but not until Q3 2012.

"LG will be taking all possible measure to offer a smooth OS upgrade in a timely manner. The exact start dates can vary by market, as each country can have different requirements, depending on the carrier and the smartphone model," the company said on its Facebook page.

While the news would appear to be welcome for Optimus users, the comments on the Facebook post have been less than glowing. "[G]et off your ass LG... if hackers can get a basic version working in less then 2 days.. you really should work harder," wrote one commenter.

"This is the worst Christmas gift you could give us :( What the hell takes you 6 months? You write Android from scratch again? No I know what it is. It's that crazy "launcher" you put on the well designed ICS one," wrote another.

Source: LG Mobile Facebook

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Some sort of balance?
By Mitch101 on 12/27/2011 12:00:54 PM , Rating: 3
I have had several Android based devices and now I wont give Android a second look for my next tablet, phone, whatever device. Im not being a hater I rather like there being an alternative to Apple and Microsoft and the OS was very attractive initially but the problem is your playing roulette with any Android based device. The OS changes too rapidly and support for updating to the latest is nearly non existent. I think of Android and the devices that run them as disposables. You will get some patching but to upgrade expect to purchase a new device. Apple isn't far behind from taking a similar approach too. Siri could have been provided to iPhone 4 users but is not. I personally think of Mobile devices as small computers because they are today but they aren't very upgradable when it comes to an new OS. Really this is due to the manufacturers of the devices and not the OS but if Android is going to get my dollar they are going to have to force all Android based device to support OS upgrades for at least 2 years. We don't deal with this shenanigans on Computers why are we tolerating it on tablets and phones which cost more than most computers today?

RE: Some sort of balance?
By augiem on 12/27/2011 1:44:48 PM , Rating: 2
Phones have been disposable for the last decade or more. Most of the time the hardware wears out before the software. And AFAIK the very notion of upgrading the OS didn't even exist until the last few years. (iOS, WebOS, Android, Win7P era -- not sure if BB had this in the "old days", but certainly no feature phone or pseudo smart phone did).

Disposable = more profit. Just look at how many phones come out every year. It's clear the companies are trying to push a 6 mo - 1 yr "upgrade" cycle. Americans are slowly catching up with the Philippines and other asian markets in their addiction to new phones. Sad because at the same time, this is generating an incredible amount of unnecessary electronic waste when the technology could be pefectly good for 99% of what anyone would want to do on a smart phone for at least 3-4 years. It's likely the hardware won't run that long (some button will stop working,etc), and of course nobody's going to get their ego fix by showing off their 4 year old status symbol of their wealth and general hipness. Ugh.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By kmmatney on 12/28/2011 3:21:29 AM , Rating: 2
Well, my iPhone wasn't disposable. I bought a 3GS for $199 in 2009. I used it over 2 years and sold it for $240 after upgrading to a 4S. The 3GS was jailbroken and I always preserved the baseband when updating the OS, and this added a lot of value.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By StanO360 on 1/3/2012 1:52:07 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously? Your worried about disposal your talking about 50mx50mx10m for all the phones and tablets in the world in a plastic and clay lined land fill.

No one forces anyone to replace their phone, I see people using phones with pull up antennae. The reason people replace it is because it isn't good enough anymore. Or it's replaced because it breaks. People generally act rationally in their best interests. Plus, you don't add in all the savings that phones add, lots of gas (not getting lost, calling instead of driving when on the road), some people don't buy a camera if the have a good cell phone camera, etc.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By augiem on 12/27/2011 1:50:42 PM , Rating: 2
Also, The new race is on for the fastest whiz bang graphical wonder wow in the palm of your hand. So as long as engineers can keep beefing up the SoC every few months, the lust for having the "best", newest, most awesome thing will continue to drive the pump and dump cycle. A stabilized platform means stagnation to the companies though, so the only way that'll happen is if the public loses interest, which is the opposite of the trends.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By Booster on 12/27/2011 2:47:09 PM , Rating: 4
"The OS changes too rapidly and support for updating to the latest is nearly non existent."

Not quite. The majority of apps in Android Market require a mere 1.6, some can even do with 1.5.

So what's the point in constantly updating to new Android versions? ICS is horrible IMO, that People thing threw me off. Look what they've done with Contacts.

I can only hope Samsung will fix those ICS insanities with their TouchWiz.

Happy Galaxy S user here. Quite satisfied with 2.3.6 and see no real reason or benefit to jump to 4.0, especially without TouchWiz enhancement. Actually I plan on using my current phone with 2.3.6 until Android 5.0 devices come out. Heck, I have a friend with Cupcake OS and he doesn't complain.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By cmdrdredd on 12/27/2011 7:41:02 PM , Rating: 2
The whole point of running a vanilla OS is to eliminate TouchWiz, Sense, Motoblur etc etc as well as bloat apps that you don't need. ICS is perfect IMO. The facebook app needs an update so it can sync contacts to what you have in your people app, but everything is multiple times better than Gingerbread in my experience.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By Booster on 12/28/2011 7:08:57 AM , Rating: 1
"ICS is perfect IMO"

It's perfect allright. Even the phonebook is gone, ICS is more like Windows Phone now which I will never buy because of it's stupid interface and absence of a phonebook.

In 2.3 (at least with TouchWiz) the phonebook is absolutely perfect and pretty much on par with what they have in iOS. But in ICS and Windows Phone there are just stupid bigass tiles to scroll through. No thank you. I'd either wait until Samsung can fit a normal phonebook in ICS with their TouchWiz or wouldn't even bother at all.

Plus there probably won't be any major apps compatible exclusively with ICS, they should all run on 2.3, too.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By omnicronx on 12/28/2011 9:11:05 AM , Rating: 3
How is it gone?

People->Defaults to contacts.. (same amount of button presses, nothing to see here)

Its the same thing with a different name, but also has the ability to have groups.. (Touchwiz already has favorites)

And once again stop commenting from a dev perspective as you clearly are not a dev, and are speculating at best. (I am a dev and while I cannot be certain, I disagree with your statements)

RE: Some sort of balance?
By Myrandex on 12/28/2011 11:48:05 PM , Rating: 2
Lack of a phone book in Windows Phones? Are you serious? Let me guess, you just looked at a screenshot of a home screen, didn't see anything titled 'Phone book', and decided to make a lame unintelligent remark from that one piece of exposure.

I tell ya what, I'll share a little bit of hard to find info...the default location of the upper right hand corner contains something called 'People', which once it is clicked on, something appears that is noticeably similar to a contact list, which I would assume is what you are referring to as a Phone book. What's even nicer is one swipe to the right and I can see what is going on with those people.


RE: Some sort of balance?
By Booster on 12/29/2011 1:54:29 AM , Rating: 2
something appears that is noticeably similar to a contact list

I've used a WinPhone quite a bit actually and sir there is no contact list. Screw that abomination 'People' - together with almost complete lack of options it turned me against WinPhone for good. One can only lament ICS went with a similar concept and while it's still way better than what's in Windows Phone, still quite frustrating.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By omnicronx on 12/28/2011 9:02:02 AM , Rating: 2
Why the hell is this guy rated up.

Touchwiz is terrible, and 99.9999999% of the SGS community would tend to agree.

And what exactly have they done with the contacts? (I'm running ICS on my SGS looking at the contacts app right now and i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about) As you just seem to be complaining for the sake of complaining.

You also clearly have a lack of knowledge from a dev perspective, so I'm not sure why you are commenting on the version from either. The majority of apps require at least 2.*, not 1.6. Not to mention ICS is a pretty major dev release, just from dabbling with the SDK I can see some pretty significant changes that will impact previous versions and will most likely result in unsupported versions of android.

RE: Some sort of balance?
By Booster on 12/28/2011 4:55:49 PM , Rating: 2
And what exactly have they done with the contacts? (I'm running ICS on my SGS looking at the contacts app right now and i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about)

Maybe you also like how Contacts are done in Windows Phone? With ICS it's basically the same thing now. Totally unusable and looks like garbage.

The advantage of a Google phone
By jRaskell on 12/27/2011 11:52:59 AM , Rating: 4
This was probably the single greatest reason I waited for and upgraded to a Galaxy Nexus. After having two Motorola phones, and repeatedly being disappointed with their support of future versions of the Android OS (and seeing that all the other manufacturers had varying levels of support as well, none of them exactly stellar), I decided to hold out for the next Google phone, the one platform that has always had excellent (if not perfect, very near so) support for new releases of the OS. I just hope that track record doesn't fall apart now that I've jumped on their bandwagon. At the very least, I don't have to wait for ICS.

RE: The advantage of a Google phone
By cooperaaaron on 12/27/2011 11:59:48 AM , Rating: 3
Now that Google owns Motorola's phone division, you might wanna rethink that....

RE: The advantage of a Google phone
By jRaskell on 12/28/2011 9:50:17 AM , Rating: 2
It'll be at least 6 months to a year before we start seeing how all that plays out with new phones, so no, there's nothing to rethink there. It may very well have an influence on my future purchases, but that's 2 years down the road now.

RE: The advantage of a Google phone
By phantom505 on 12/27/2011 12:35:59 PM , Rating: 2
I have ICS (CM9) on my Droid 3. It's not perfect, but perfectly functional. Phone doesn't work, some codecs are buggy. I don't use the stupid camera on phones, so that's not even a worry.

Hardly worth saying that's a reason to not like a company. Where there is a will there is a way.

By phantom505 on 12/27/2011 12:37:32 PM , Rating: 2
Phone doesn't work

CAMERA... doesn't work <sigh>

By Chadder007 on 12/27/2011 12:41:26 PM , Rating: 3
Perfectly Function /= "Phone doesn't Work"

RE: The advantage of a Google phone
By jRaskell on 12/28/2011 9:48:54 AM , Rating: 2
I had my OG Droid rooted in the first week of owning it. Went through nearly a dozen different ROMs. None of them were anywhere near as stable as the phone was unrooted. I spent over a year trying out different ROMs and dealing with all sorts of problems. Just about every single ROM would give me some random Force Close on an app at least once a day, some far more often, and others had more severe issues, like the phone just locking up, requiring a battery pull to reset.

After dealing with all that, I finally just unrooted my phone, and it worked 10 times better after that. So, I won't be doing any more rooting and playing with any more custom ROMs. Just not something I want to deal with.

By StanO360 on 1/3/2012 1:56:42 PM , Rating: 2
I think the point of your post is, buy a phone based on how it is sold (imagine that!) and assume that is what your going to get. If it gets better, great, if not you won't be disappointed.

FYI, I rooted, but didn't change the rom on my Optimus V and it is infinitely better due to the hardware limitations of that cheap phone.

bad arguments
By cmdrdredd on 12/27/2011 12:01:15 PM , Rating: 2
You could say the same stuff about any phone. I remember when gingerbread came out and ppl said "oh but you could root and have it over a month ago". True but if they look i guarantee there are some issues with the os on a device when it has not been thoroughly tested and maybe tweaked. I remember on some phones the app store didn't work right. Wouldn't it be better to wait for official release and support than to try to deal with issues like that? I think so personally. Further, how do we know there isn't some agreement with samsung to keep the new android os exclusively on the galaxy nexus for a limited time? It is possible, but i realize unlikely given the openness of the os in general. Any number of reasons can be surmised about the delay if you want to call it that. However, using the argument that someone who rooted their phone could have it now is ridiculous. You could also grab a copy of windows 7 from torrents before it released. You just had to deal with some issues that were inevitably fixed when the official release surfaced. It's not much different here. They should be happy they get it at all. Hell LG doesn't have to keep updating multiple devices with different specs.

Drivers Drivers Drivers
By cserwin on 12/27/2011 12:21:16 PM , Rating: 2
LG is coming late to the game with ICS? Fine, that's their party at retail.

But at least they could release driver code so that the independent efforts can move faster.

Seriously, you want someone to buy your phone on a 2 year contract, and then provide no support? And then impede the abiltiy of your customers to support themselves by witholding drivers?

LG == DB

Thanks LG, but
By DeluxeTea on 12/27/2011 9:23:25 PM , Rating: 2
Please release Gingerbread for your other phones before even mentioning ICS. We've been waiting since September.

What's so great about ICS?
By Dug on 12/28/2011 11:53:56 AM , Rating: 2
I mean you bought the phone knowing what functionality it had. Does upgrading to ICS give some wonderful, can't live without, super duper app? Or is it just basically a UI change.

I personally have rooted and upgraded my EVO, but honestly, I haven't found anything that excites me from stock. It still works as a phone, I can text, email, run all apps, etc.

Timeline disappointment?
By CZroe on 12/28/2011 1:32:52 PM , Rating: 2
It may seem like a long time but it's in-line with the rest of the industry. I'm going to be waiting just as long for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich on my Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY even though it was one of the first to be announced for ICS.

By freeman70 on 12/28/2011 8:56:57 PM , Rating: 2
It is very simple. Manufacturers want to maintain their revenue stream. If they release OS updates for most of their older phones, a lot of people will have no reason to buy a new phone to get the latest features. If HTC releases ICS for my Incredible S, will I be more or less inclined to buy a new phone? Most likely, I will be less inclined. However, it is a double-edged sword. If they don't provide updates for a certain period on relatively new phones, people will shun their brand and buy another. The only manufacturer who can do this successfully without a heavy backlash is Apple. Apple makes decent products but I am sad to say the blind stupidity of a lot of Apple fans allows them to get away with murder in the market. Just look at the price of Apple accessories and you will understand. Their customers flock to get gouged. Now, the Android variants, taking their cue, are using the same tactics.

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