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The district plans to use $30 million in tax money to fund the first $31,000 devices, but is looking for other options to fund the rest

Apple scored a major contract last month to deploy iPads in a Los Angeles school district, and more details about that deal are trickling out. 

CITEworld reports that the Los Angeles Unified School District will receive 31,000 iPads this school year as part of phase one of the overall iPad deployment. This first phase is currently in action, delivering iPads to 49 of the district's 1,124 K-12 schools.

The district has 640,000 students total, and the goal is to have an iPad for each student. The LA Unified School District plans to complete the rest of the phases under the contract with Apple by late 2014, when each and every student should have an iPad of their own. 

The contract between the LA school district and Apple is worth $30 million, but students will get to use them for free. The district plans to use $30 million in tax money to fund the first $31,000 devices, but is looking for other options to fund the rest.

"The most important thing is to try to prepare the kids for the technology they are going to face when they are going to graduate," said Mark Hovatter, the chief facilities executive for the LAUSD. "This is phase one, a mix of high school, middle school, and elementary students. We're targeting kids who most likely don't have their own computers or laptops or iPads. Their only exposure to computers now is going to be in their schools."

The iPads aim to offer students a more well-rounded education by providing a firm grip on technology and how to use it in various situations such as testing, studying and communicating with teachers/students; interactive lessons; reference videos; digital textbooks (book publisher Pearson currently has a contract with Apple to use its textbooks on the iPads); schedules drawn up by teachers, and educational software.   

Apple won the contract with the LA district last month when the Board of Education voted 6 to 0 to approve it. The board came to this conclusion after receiving positive input about iPad use from teachers and students. The iPad was also the least expensive device. 

The iPads will come pre-loaded with educational software, but won't include a keyboard. They have a three-year warranty that includes free replacement devices up to 5 percent of the value of the purchase price. 
 
The school district has committed to spending "hundreds of millions of dollars" with Apple over the next two years, since they chose the company as their only tablet vendor. 

Source: CITEworld



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iPad
By jatkinsaut on 7/26/2013 1:14:31 PM , Rating: 3
That is nearly $1000 each. Seems like there would be some sort of quantity discount. I would think $300 each for a midrange model would be the market price.




RE: iPad
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/26/2013 1:19:29 PM , Rating: 2
Seems a little steep to me considering the ones with wi-fi and cellular for the 128gb is 929 on Apple.com.... unless the math is incorrect?


RE: iPad
By BRB29 on 7/26/2013 1:52:03 PM , Rating: 2
It's probably because they have a unique warranty deal with apple since it will guarantee to break a lot. I think the statistics was around 3x more likely to break when issued to elementary kids.

A lot of charter and private schools already have contract with apple for the past few years for ipads. It started since the Ipad2.


RE: iPad
By kleinma on 7/26/2013 2:38:08 PM , Rating: 5
There was a chart a while back with a breakdown, and it turns out having traditional textbooks even at the rate they need to be replaced for newer versions, was like 4x cheaper than rolling out iPads over the course of like 10 years with one or the other. However, since people just feel compelled to change things that aren't broken, the nearly broke state of California can spend more money so that kids can forget what books are.


RE: iPad
By Mint on 7/26/13, Rating: -1
RE: iPad
By Schrag4 on 7/26/2013 4:52:36 PM , Rating: 3
Mint, do you know how to use a tablet? Did you grow up using one? My guess is "Yes" and "No." The kinds of jobs that might require tablet usage probably won't be jobs they get right out of high-school. They'll get a chance to learn to use a tablet in their higher education, if necessary. Not only that, but just like you and I, when these kids get old enough to finally get a tablet, since they are centered around entertainment, there's a high liklihood that they'll teach themselves the ins-and-outs pretty darn quickly. It's funny how you learn how to use the fun tools faster than the tools you don't like using, isn't it?

Also, this will target kids whose parents can't afford a tablet. How about the kids whose parents can afford a table but are unwilling to spend the money on one since it's just a media consumption "toy"? Are those kids out of luck? It's not their fault their parents are stingy.


RE: iPad
By Mint on 7/28/2013 5:10:56 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
The kinds of jobs that might require tablet usage probably won't be jobs they get right out of high-school.
Jobs that don't even need high school will be using tablets. Even flipping burgers is going to need machine interfacing in 5-10 years when fast food joints can only stay competitive by automating almost everything and having minimal staff.


RE: iPad
By someguy123 on 7/28/2013 8:16:30 PM , Rating: 3
Why the hell do people NEED tablets in schools? They're designed to be as intuitive and easy to use as possible, hence big colorful buttons that you poke with your fingers. They already have big button touchscreens with large text/pictures at restaurants for the staff to use. I'm pretty sure they weren't brought up with tablets yet still manage just fine. If you can't figure out what a button does when it has the word "hamburger" printed right on it then the problem lies elsewhere.


RE: iPad
By Reclaimer77 on 7/26/2013 2:29:03 PM , Rating: 3
Why would the Government care about getting discounts? Its our money they're spending, not theirs.

Governments actually goes out of their way to waste as much capital as possible. The past five years should make that readily apparent to anyone.

The only thing that's stopped California from following Detroit into bankruptcy is that Republicans periodically wrestle the budget out of Democrat control.


RE: iPad
By kleinma on 7/26/2013 2:41:36 PM , Rating: 1
So the government of california just has one bank account that several people can write checks out of? Everything in government is broken down into groups, and budgets are assigned everywhere. Just because its tax payer money, doesn't mean there is an endless supply of it. If the iPads for school children budget can't be met, they don't just go and take money from the california highway repair budget to cover the difference...


RE: iPad
By Reclaimer77 on 7/26/2013 5:35:19 PM , Rating: 3
Please tell me you aren't this neive...

Most States are in some kind of debt situation. Yes, they DO spend money as if there's an endless supply. When its other peoples money being spent, you have zero incentive to care about a budget.

Come on, this is basic basic stuff.


RE: iPad
By batjohn on 7/26/2013 11:57:23 PM , Rating: 2
Naive? When insulting someone try to use proper spelling... Speaking of basic things...

A bit Cynical as well aren't we?


RE: iPad
By Reclaimer77 on 7/27/2013 1:09:07 AM , Rating: 2
/shrug

I was posting that on my phone and made a typo, it happens. Sue me :)

quote:
A bit Cynical as well aren't we?


Well no I don't think so. I'm just saying how it is. You have to be willfully ignorant not to see the culture of waste and incompetence that has permeated every level of governance in this nation.

The fact that he specifically used the highway/road funds as his example, when it's the single biggest source of pork barrel and non-road funding out there, kinda disqualifies him as an informed debater.


RE: iPad
By kmmatney on 7/28/2013 1:33:54 PM , Rating: 2
It's mainly the pensions. My wife works part-time for the school district in the elementary school program. The former director of the program was recently able to retire, with his full salary for life, at age 51. He worked for the school district for many years, starting out as a teacher's aid, and then as a teacher. He did a crappy job, so they kept moving him around, and he eventually spent the last 5 years as the director of the preschool program (still doing a crappy job) with a significant pay raise. Even though he spent the majority of his years at a lower wage, on retirement he gets his final, highest salary, for life, at age 51! And he gets the pension even if he gets another job. What other sort of job, besides government, gets that sort of benefit?


RE: iPad
By Nutzo on 7/26/2013 6:14:31 PM , Rating: 3
California has been raiding the transportation budget for years so they could keep on spending.

As for LA, they have some of the worse pot-hole filled streets of any major city in the country. One of the reasons is the lack of funds for road repair, yet they have plenty of money from the city budget for education that gets spent on junk like this.


RE: iPad
By shadowamazon on 7/26/2013 2:43:28 PM , Rating: 2
because if you did not waste all the money you were allocated with. Next year you will have less to waste with. Less money = less swagger.


RE: iPad
By Piiman on 7/27/2013 10:22:49 AM , Rating: 2
is 31,000 the number? the story keeps referring to the first $31,000 which a dollare amount. Confusing. if it is the number they will need another 600 million to get the rest. crazy


RE: iPad
By Ghost42 on 7/29/2013 1:31:03 AM , Rating: 2
The article isn't clear on it, however it says the contract is worth $30mil and that they plan to get iPads for all 640k students by late 2014. Which would work out to about $47 an iPad and not $968. At least I would hope so anyway, but this is Cali we're talking about.


RE: iPad
By Ghost42 on 7/29/2013 1:34:26 AM , Rating: 2
To expand what I mean by clear, no where in the original article does it say that it's costing $30mil for the first 31k iPads. It specifically says they are "free".


I don't buy their reasoning
By Schrag4 on 7/26/2013 1:57:34 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
"The most important thing is to try to prepare the kids for the technology they are going to face when they are going to graduate," said Mark Hovatter, the chief facilities executive for the LAUSD.


I personally disagree with this philosophy. I think the "most important thing" for K-12 should probably be literacy and basic math skills, which have nothing to do with technology. If you're talking about preparing for a specific career, isn't that training and/or education that happens after high-school?

quote:
"This is phase one, a mix of high school, middle school, and elementary students. We're targeting kids who most likely don't have their own computers or laptops or iPads. Their only exposure to computers now is going to be in their schools."


When I was growing up, very few people had personal computers, but somehow I (and everyone older than me) was able to figure out how to use them proficiently.

Having a fancy toy in class is no substitute for hard work. I'm not suggesting these cannot be good learning tools, I just question the reasons they gave, and I really question whether each child will get $1000 worth of education out of their device.




RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Nutzo on 7/26/2013 2:11:08 PM , Rating: 3
iPads are media consumtion devices, not work devices. Nobody is going to get a job because they know how to use an iPad.

Teach them to read, write and understand math and science if you want them to get a good job.


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Mint on 7/26/13, Rating: 0
RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Mint on 7/26/2013 4:09:08 PM , Rating: 2
(sorry, meant technological, not technical)


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By jimbojimbo on 7/26/2013 5:08:23 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah, it's so hard to use any tablet. Touch then read then touch. Oooh. Here's a $100k/year job because of that.


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Mint on 7/28/2013 5:02:54 AM , Rating: 2
Goodness, don't you people have an ounce of imagination?

I'm not talking about $100k jobs.

I'm talking about low wage workers, like:
-warehouse workers doing inventory
-machine operators using electric manuals
-auto mechanic following video instructions
...or any number of menial tasks assisted by tablets 5-10 years from now.

If a task involves some text entry, you going to hire someone that types 20 words a minute on a touchscreen over someone that wastes time typing 4 words a minute?

Most jobs that don't get replaced by robots down the road will require some sort of information handling, like adeptly navigating manuals, using search tools, copying and pasting, taking pictures and putting them in trouble reports, etc.

There's nothing hard about anything we do on PCs, yet we still see people inept at using them. I can say,

"Yeah, it's so hard to use any PC. Click then read then click. Oooh."


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By TSS on 7/28/2013 5:55:52 PM , Rating: 2
- If you cannot figure out how to handle a tablet, i do NOT want you taking inventory for me.
- Electric manuals? What, do you beam those into your head like the matrix? Surely you ment "Digital" manuals. Which you had known would you read more instead of play around with those fancy games on your iDevice. Anyways this is not relevant because girls always go for the manual first while men don't need them at all.
- If you cannot figure out how to pull up a video on a tablet i do NOT want you fixing my car. In fact if you still need to pull up the manual to fix the car, i do not want you to fix my car and go get somebody who actually knows what's wrong because you won't find that in the manual.

If i'm going to hire somebody for text entry i'll hire somebody who can do 400 words on a keyboard not 20 on a toutch device. Lol.

Any jobs that are not going to be automated are going to be 2 kids of jobs:
1. The stupidest of stupid, where handling a tablet is of secondary concirn to cleaning out the poop from toilet no.3,
or 2. The smartest of smart, AKA either maintaining or building the actual robots doing most of the work. If you can do that i'm willing to bet you can figure out how a tablet works.

The "ineptness" you describe with PC's aren't when they work. It's when they break. Having a tablet from a young age isn't going to change anything. In fact your own arguement works against you - most people entering the workforce now have grown up with or around PC's, yet by your own admission they are still inept at them.

Guess what - people who do not want to figure out technology, will never figure out technology. But the kids who wanted to read might get distracted by all these fancy games and stuff you can do on an ipad when the teacher's not looking.

Parental locking that stuff out defeats the whole purpose of a tablet as then the tablet is going to be as boring as a book - might as well use a book then.

None of your arguements hold water. Probably because you're much more focussed on that damn media device then what the job would actually require you to do - to WORK. Society doesn't run on paper-pushers.


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Motoman on 7/26/2013 6:23:28 PM , Rating: 3
Don't be retarded. "Knowing" how to use a tablet is roughly equal to knowing how to use a microwave.

Language skills, math and science, and above all else critical thinking skills are what we need to be teaching children.

This horribly moronic iPad boondoggle is nothing more than a bookmark in the 100-pound tome titled "Why we're all so f%cking stupid."


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Camikazi on 7/27/2013 12:55:16 AM , Rating: 2
I taught my mother to use a tablet, my 83 almost 84 year old never had a computer in her life, can barely work a cable box mother. Do you honestly think anyone teen or mid 20s age can't learn to use one on their own?


By HoosierEngineer5 on 7/27/2013 10:19:56 AM , Rating: 2
I work for a large engineering company. Not only don't they supply everybody with iXXX devices, they "won't provide PDAs for anybody". Guess how many iXXX devices you find here. Zero.

These things are playtoys for the kids, and cool gadgets for the teachers. It also gives the administrators a chance to look like they are doing something.

They would probably be better off buying 2x the number of PCs and trying to teach the kids from them.


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By YearOfTheDingo on 7/27/2013 7:29:18 PM , Rating: 2
I disagree. I've been in restaurants where the wait staff use tablet computers to take order. In the fastfood industry touch-screen interface is already ubiquitous.


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Motoman on 7/27/2013 11:29:15 PM , Rating: 2
So your argument is that we should be preparing our children for a career at McDonald's?

Because that's basically what you're doing if you spend more than 5 minutes teaching someone to use a tablet.

Worst. Waste. Of. Education. Dollars. Ever.


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By YearOfTheDingo on 7/28/2013 8:39:48 AM , Rating: 1
Like it or not, the vast majority of these kids will end up with these jobs. It's hardly a good use of money to prepare them to be professionals that they have little chance of becoming.


RE: I don't buy their reasoning
By Motoman on 7/28/2013 11:04:32 AM , Rating: 2
Translation:

"There's so little hope for kids these days that we may as well not even bother trying. F%ck 'em."

You're a horrible person. And retarded. Because if you can't figure out how to "use" a tablet in about 5 seconds...you're retarded.


By YearOfTheDingo on 7/28/2013 1:19:33 PM , Rating: 1
It's a mistake to assume the children in question have the same cognitive ability as yourself. Simple questions: Did you graduate from high-school? Are you functionally literate?


What a complete waste of taxpayer money.
By MrBlastman on 7/26/2013 2:07:02 PM , Rating: 5
To paraphrase, they are being put in schools to "prepare children for technology they will face in the real world."

Well, guess what? Real-world work isn't done on an i-pad. It is done or a PC or a notebook. Not a darn keyboardless tablet device. If this weren't in LA or Commiefornia, I wouldn't believe it was happening, but, it is.




RE: What a complete waste of taxpayer money.
By BRB29 on 7/26/2013 2:09:42 PM , Rating: 5
It's just marketing BS. Apple doesn't care about education. They care about education dollars buying their ipads.

I know a lot of state are looking into technology to solve their failing education problem. They're just ignoring the real problems of our education system and looking for a quick fix so people would think they are doing something about it.


By jimbojimbo on 7/26/2013 5:13:04 PM , Rating: 4
It's the same strategy they've used before with schools. They give them "discounted" computers in the hopes the kids learn it and decide to only buy those products in the future. They have tons of Macs to schools and when students got out because they are so narrow minded the only computer they would even consider was a Mac. It's even like that now in the graphics world. PCs are much more flexible than Apples but any graphic designer will get a Mac because that's what they used in school. Photoshop may have worked better on a Mac 20 years ago but they work just as well on Windows now. People remain ignorant to that.


By Piiman on 7/27/2013 10:38:17 AM , Rating: 3
Yep if Apple really cared they could easily afford to donate 640,000 to the schools.


By Lord 666 on 7/26/2013 7:03:37 PM , Rating: 2
Access to iPad or any other mobile Internet access is a useful thing when it is coupled with a compelling curriculum. Purchasing text books is the most absurd idea when the content can be accessed electronically. If there is a discussion or current event that enhances curriculum, it can be accessed by all users.

Another good example... would there be a Let Me Google that for You site if everyone knew how to search for something? Instead of asking a dumb question, research the premise first and then ask something intelligent.


By Fritzr on 7/28/2013 11:15:57 PM , Rating: 1
The casino I work for (5 restaurant venues & 7 bar venues) has just started using iPod touch for the servers and bartenders to enter orders ... no more scribbling and running over to the POS terminal ... now they hold the POS terminal with credit card scanner in their hand at the table.

iPads for the schools though is to make sure the students learn early that the only tablet computer they should buy is an Apple tablet computer. As far as actual usability, repeated studies have shown that the current gen tablet designs do NOT work in school. You cannot view multiple textbooks or textbook & workbook at the same time. In K-12 this might be less of a problem but at the college level it has been a deal killer in every trial I have seen a report on. (including 'real' OS netbooks and tablets due to screen size)

TL;DR form: Apple customer indoctrination, to be followed by "Mommy I need the Apple tablet because that is what we have at school".


Games
By rich_92 on 7/26/2013 12:54:25 PM , Rating: 2
How the heck are they going to prevent them from playing games and other non sense?




RE: Games
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 7/26/2013 1:01:28 PM , Rating: 2
Built-in Parental Controls?


RE: Games
By BRB29 on 7/26/2013 1:48:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Built-in Parental Controls?

Yep or just limited to school intranet where they can't download games from the app store.


RE: Games
By Flunk on 7/26/2013 2:20:39 PM , Rating: 2
That's just going to teach the kids how to hack parental controls. That's what we did when I was in school, the administration never managed to stop us from getting around anything they tried.

In hindsight I learned a lot from it, probably more than from the actual computer classes.


price per ipad
By agent2099 on 7/26/2013 1:30:17 PM , Rating: 2
Is my math right? They are paying $967 per ipad? Love seeing those tax dollar being spent wisely.




RE: price per ipad
By FlyBri on 7/26/2013 2:14:46 PM , Rating: 2
It's not just the iPad they are getting. For one, every iPad will come preloaded with educational software, which can cost quite a bit extra. In addition, every iPad has a 3 year warranty w/ a free replacement program. When you add all that up, the cost makes much more sense...


RE: price per ipad
By Rukkian on 7/29/2013 1:51:16 PM , Rating: 2
They are only entitled to 5% replacement according to the article.


More wasted money
By Nutzo on 7/26/2013 2:05:26 PM , Rating: 2
The schools keep complaining they're broke, but they have $30 million for this waste of money. Just like all the schools that went out and bought netbooks when they where popular (at least the netbooks where cheaper and more durable).

They can't teach them to read, but at least they will learn how to press the pictures on the touch screen, Guess you could count this as training to be a fast-food order taker.

I would estimate that over half these will be broken or stolen before the year ends.
Wonder if the press will report how many kids are injured or killed by some thug stealing thier iPad? (It's already happened at one eastern school district)




Seed the children
By Nephelai on 7/27/2013 7:06:26 AM , Rating: 2
"prepare children for technology they will face in the real world."

Next we'll be supplying school children cars because you may be exposed to one or at least required to drive one in your first job.

This is nothing more than a product seeding exercise.




Work From Home
By jimmorris on 7/28/2013 8:29:59 AM , Rating: 2
I freelance over the internet and earn about 80-85$ an hour. I was without a job for 7 months but last month my paycheck with big fat bonus was $15000 just working on my computer from my home for 5-6 hours. Here's what i have been doing-----> http://www.Gig25.com




And in other news...
By ammaross on 7/29/2013 1:17:16 PM , Rating: 2
And in other news...

There's a new crime wave hitting schools in California. Thieves broke in to several schools in the golden state looking for a different form of gold: Apple iPads, left unguarded at night, stacked neatly in classrooms all over the state.




Preparing?
By KFZ on 7/29/2013 4:12:15 PM , Rating: 2
A $1000 tablet does not "prepare" kids for a world of technology, it teaches them nothing in and of itself.

If this was about exposing kids to technology and teaching them what it's about, you can do that with a Raspberry Pi and actually show them what makes it possible to feed peoples' addictions to cat pictures rather than waste obscene amounts of taxpayer money for kids to spend their time wiping their dirty fingers across an overpriced piece of glass.

This is why the US public education systen needs a kick in the ass.




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