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Gateway P-7908u FX Edition

MacBook Pro 15" 2.66 GHz model + Windows 7

Microsoft's Zune HD 32 GB

iPod nano 16 GB edition

iPhone 3GS 32 GB edition
Microsoft, Apple, dominate the first edition of this year's list of must have gadgets

Need some ideas about what to buy for your love ones (or yourself) this holiday season?  Well, I've compiled the first entry in a two part list of some of the best products on the market.  Feel free to chime in and let me know what you think about my choices, whether you agree or disagree!

Laptops:

Gateway P-7809u FX Edition
My first pick is the new (and ultimate) mid-range laptop bargain, the Gateway P-7809u FX Edition.  As a gamer, I can appreciate the laptops impressive specs -- a new Nvidia 260M GTX GPU with 1 GB of video memory (112 CUDA cores), Windows 7, an Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 2.53 GHz CPU, and 4 GB of DDR3.  ASUS has a similarly priced offering, the even-more-verbosely named G51Vx-X3A.  However, it only offers a 320 GB hard drive and 15" screen, versus the 17" WVGA screen and 500 GB hard drive on the Gateway model.  Either laptop is a solid pick, but when add in that the Gateway is only $1149 -- $50 cheaper than the ASUS, the winner seems clear. 

Two great upgrades for your new gaming laptop would be a solid state drive (as the hard drive is a weak 5400 RPM) and Windows 7 Professional edition.

MacBook Pro 15" 2.66 GHz Model
The aforementioned Gateway is a bulky beast at 9.01 lbs. and it only has 3 hours of battery life.  But what if you could retain much of that performance in a much slimmer package and get great battery life?  That's the potential of the MacBook Pro 15" 2.66 GHz edition, my entry-level recommendation for high end buyers, and likely my most controversial pick.  While not for the faint-of-wallet, I can recommend the 15" 2.66 GHz and up MacBook pros as they come with a 9600M NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT combo that allows for decent graphics.  While obviously inferior to the 260M GTX, this GPU is actually pretty powerful as far as mobile GPUs come. 

Make no mistake here -- hardware-wise you're accepting an inferior GPU and paying more.  What you get in exchange is an able laptop, which will be worth it for some.  The 15” MacBook Pro weighs a mere 5.5 lb and is slender thanks to the aluminum unibody.  And the battery life is a whopping 7 hours.  While a netbook would offer similar grab-and-go potential, with a MacBook Pro you can actually game and do graphical editing on-the-go.  Gaming, you ask?  Well, of course you need to buy a copy of Windows 7 to do that.  Windows 7 (via bootcamp) is essential, in my eyes, for a Mac owner.  I admit I'm a bit biased -- I don't like my 'Nix variants (be they BSD, Linux distros, or OS X) quite as graphically rich as OS X, and when you add that you can't reasonably game in it, Win 7 seems a necessity.  An SSD is another solid upgrade.

MP3 Players:

Microsoft Zune HD 3.3" 32 GB MP3/MP4 Player
While the iPod Touch would certainly be a safe pick here, there's a lot to like about the Zune HD.  It features a great looking 3.3" OLED display that's arguably superior to the Touch's slightly larger 3.5" display.  It features touch technology, like Apple's toy, but adds an FM/HD tuner.  It also claims longer audio battery life (33 hours, versus Apple's 30 hr).  Video look gorgeous for such a small screen thanks to the new NVIDIA Tegra mobile GPU.

While app selection isn't on par with Apple's App Store, there are some nice ones out there that flex the player's graphical muscle.  Project Gotham Racing: Ferrari Edition offers graphics on par with anything the iPhone/iPod Touch can throw at it, and there's a number of puzzle games in the vein of what'd you find on Pop Cap.  All things considered, the $289 Zune HD 32 GB seems a slightly better buy than the $299 iPod Touch, especially if you're going to watch video.

Apple iPod nano 16 GB
The iPod nanos were always nice, but I never felt particularly compelled to buy one.  That could all change with the latest generation of nanos.  For only $179 you get an iPod that can finally play FM radio (including pausing it -- recording would be nice, but oh well).  And you get a larger vibrant screen, while the weight stays just over 1 ounce. 

That'd all be fine and dandy, but Apple had to outdo themselves and throw a camera on the thing.  Picture quality is low (VGA resolution -- 640x480), but the thing can also take video, which is a nice perk.  Often times I find that such low-end cameras (such as those on cell phones) are most handy as they allow shots when you don't have your camera around.  While the iPod nano's camera will be put to shame by most cell phone cameras, it's still a compelling feature in case you don't have your phone at hand.  With 24 hours of audio playback and solid headphones for a packaged offering, the iPod nano seems a great buy.

Phones:

iPhone 3G S 32 GB
While Droid may finally provide the iPhone a solid competitor, it's main advantage is its network -- Verizon.  If you can stomach AT&T's less than optimal coverage, the new iPhone 3G S 32 GB model will provide you with unbeatable entertainment value.  With well over 100,000 apps it's head and shoulders above the competition.  Over a third of the apps are games, making it a solid alternative to mobile gaming consoles like the PSP Go or Nintendo DSi.

The improved camera (which now takes video), ability to send MMS texts, shoot video, and copy and paste are all welcome additions in the latest model.  However, the biggest improvement is perhaps the faster CPU/GPU combo that are allowing for some dynamite apps.  Given Apple's at times tight control of the app store, the less able AT&T network, and some quality issues, I do have my misgivings about the device, but in all it's hard to find a competitor that's better in terms of an entertainment phone (Tip: For business, get a Blackberry, though I wouldn't recommend the Storm/Storm 2, as the Storm was, and is, a mess in my opinion).

Disclosures: The author is currently writing an iPhone game and currently owns a Blackberry Storm by RIM on the Verizon network, an iPod Classic 160 GB edition, a Sony Vaio AR750E/B (with Windows Vista Home Edition), and a MacBook Pro 15" 2.8 GHz edition (with Windows 7 Professional).



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Gaming Notebooks are good buys?
By ImSpartacus on 12/9/2009 12:26:41 PM , Rating: 5
I have always been of the school of thought that people get ripped off when they buy a gaming notebook, let alone a Gateway.

And then your alternative was the 15in Macbook? /facepalm

Your list needs balance. Throw a solid netbook/ultraportable on there. The Acer 1410 and Asus UL30Vt seem like solid picks.

And of course I must suggest the MBP13 because I own one and love it. Normally you pay more for a smaller product. Apple's lineup is the opposite. So why not just snag the smallest, cheapest Macbook Pro? Seems like sound logic to me. That is, if you can rationalize putting "Macbook" and "logic" in the same sentence.

But your cellphone and MP3 player choices were good. I have only seen an iPod Touch in action, but the Zune HD seems like a fantastic product as well. But where's my Droid? That thing is sweet.

I'll be waiting for Part II.




RE: Gaming Notebooks are good buys?
By JasonMick (blog) on 12/9/2009 1:16:06 PM , Rating: 4
Thanks for the comments!

I admit, my list was unapologetically biased by my own personal tastes as a mobile gamer, hence the "Jason's Holiday Gift Guide Part I -- Laptops, MP3 Players, Phones" ;)

This list is largely targeted at mid to high-range busy buyers with a bit of disposable income to buy fun toys.

I agree with your assessment somewhat that laptop gamers get the short end of the stick for how much they're paying, but for busy people on the go who don't want to haul around some sort of case, I think laptop gaming is great. As a gamer who travels a lot and is very busy I find that laptop gaming has been my only real choice of late, as I'm seldom home, even when I'm taking a break. Again, not everyone lives this kind of lifestyle and a dedicated PC makes (more) sense for some.

My recommendations were by no means meant to be a broad list by product segments... for that I recommend Anandtech's periodic hardware notebook buyers' guides, which I find quite enjoyable. If I did have to recommend a small laptop I would suggest an Eee PC + SSD for a low end option (actually just told my Dad who was looking for a netbook to buy this) or for those with a lot of disposable income a MacBook Pro 13" as you suggest. The MacBook Pro's lack of decent graphics, though, disappoints me. While the Eee PC is actually worse in graphics, its better in terms of battery life (with the 10.5 hr edition), and even smaller, and much cheaper so I'd definitely suggest considering it as your first option. The Acer 1410 is another good pick for a netbook and the Asus UL30Vt is another great slightly-more-expensive long-battery life option, with better hardware than the 13" MacBook Pro, so I would second your suggestions as well.

I did include a blurb on Droid, ya must have missed it. I've played with it and really like it and would definitely consider getting it as an iPhone alternative, if it ever gets more apps. Consider me biased, though, as I said I'm working on an iPhone app (I'm doing the art for it) so that sways me a bit. I might be crazy, but if I had the money I might buy a Droid and an iPhone and switch it up each day (and tell my friends to try my other line if they couldn't get ahold of me).

I think you'll like the next guide better -- it focuses on hardware components, more than this one.


RE: Gaming Notebooks are good buys?
By Moishe on 12/9/2009 1:44:44 PM , Rating: 3
I've got no problem with bias on a list like this. My list would look significantly different than yours.

I do think that the iPhone is a downright CRAPPY gaming platform. Sure it can do some gaming, but the control scheme is literally garbage for many games. Some games are suited to the touch screen, but most aren't. It'll always be an ipod first, a phone second, and a gaming platform third (or less).


By MozeeToby on 12/11/2009 10:40:43 AM , Rating: 2
Even the Motorola Droid with a full keyboard isn't great for games. Games designed to utilize the touch screen or tilt sensors seem to be the most playable; SNES games (via a $3 emulator without jailbraking the phone) are pretty much limited to strategy/racing (using the tilt sensor for left/right control), but I haven't tried much more than that yet as I got sucked into Chrono Trigger for the fifth or sixth time in my life.


RE: Gaming Notebooks are good buys?
By AssBall on 12/9/2009 2:47:33 PM , Rating: 2
Those 17 inch Gateway FX are the shiz. Good call there, Mick.


By Jedi2155 on 12/9/2009 9:41:34 PM , Rating: 2
I whole heartedly agree here! I bought the last generation 7805u FX back in January all for $1250. The only spec differences are 2.26 GHz, 9800m GTS, 320 GB 7200 RPM, Vista, and 1920x1200 instead of 1440x900 resolution screen.

I absolutely love my gateway and quite a few people have given me stares about it as well (not just bad zomg 17" HUMONGOUS stares) but wowza's at the speed. I never had a problem bringing it to all my classes and to work and I'm middle size 140 lbs.


By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2009 3:38:24 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I admit, my list was unapologetically biased by my own personal tastes as a mobile gamer, hence the "Jason's Holiday Gift Guide Part I -- Laptops, MP3 Players, Phones" ;)


Yeah no kidding. Could you plug any more Apple products ? Geeze


By quiksilvr on 12/10/2009 12:08:23 AM , Rating: 3
OMG Jason just admitted he's unapologetically biased by his own personal tastes! ITS STEP ONE! 11 to go and you'll become an unbiased, factual writer! I'm so proud :D


RE: Gaming Notebooks are good buys?
By Ryanman on 12/10/2009 3:40:42 AM , Rating: 2
Writing an unbiased gift list is impossible. This was was thorough at the very least, which is more than I can say for others I've found on the net. Looking forward to part II.


RE: Gaming Notebooks are good buys?
By Omega215D on 12/9/2009 1:28:57 PM , Rating: 2
Actually those Gateway gaming laptops are priced very competitively and are built quite well. The battery life is also good considering what's inside the machine.

The ZuneHD is quite a media player. The sound quality is great compared to the iPod Touch (yeah, I own both) and the screen is just as responsive. The player feels quite solid yet is still light and not too noticeable in the pocket like my iPod Touch was.


By Cheesew1z69 on 12/9/2009 1:32:53 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed on the Gateway, I have the 7805U and LOVE IT. It plays my games at decent FPS when I need it.


By Fenixgoon on 12/9/2009 2:18:05 PM , Rating: 2
actually, anandtech's review of the gateway P-series was quite favorable, IIRC.


RE: Gaming Notebooks are good buys?
By aqaq55 on 12/15/09, Rating: 0
Too late!
By SiliconJon on 12/9/2009 12:22:46 PM , Rating: 2
I was done over a week ago, but thanks! Ahhh, and all done online. Twas' an easy Christmas shopping this year, knock wood because not quite all of the presents have yet arrived.




RE: Too late!
By ImSpartacus on 12/9/2009 12:28:01 PM , Rating: 2
Don't worry, there will still be time for some stress!

Half of the presents will get lost in the mail. The other half will be DoA.

Happy holidays!


RE: Too late!
By kattanna on 12/9/2009 12:30:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
knock wood


oh come now, lets leave poor tiger out of this, doesnt he have enough mistresses already?


RE: Too late!
By amanojaku on 12/9/2009 1:27:17 PM , Rating: 2
You can never have too many mistresses, as long as you aren't paying for them.


RE: Too late!
By kattanna on 12/9/2009 3:22:51 PM , Rating: 3
considering he just lost a sponsor, hes paying for them now


RE: Too late!
By erple2 on 12/10/2009 11:13:18 PM , Rating: 2
Spoken like a person that's never had a mistress. In the end, you always pay for them. And pay a lot for them.


Zune
By Morphine06 on 12/9/2009 1:22:27 PM , Rating: 2
I don't own a Zune. (yet)

But I started using the Zune software on my PC and fell in love with it. It actually made me want the hardware to sync with it.

My 80GB Cowon X5 (rockbox) just died so I think I get to pull the trigger soon.




RE: Zune
By Moishe on 12/9/2009 2:00:52 PM , Rating: 2
I wish someone would come up with a control standard so that all new cars can control all compatible media players. This whole iPod plug thing is really nice, but it fails if you choose not to buy into Apple's stuff.


RE: Zune
By noirsoft on 12/9/2009 5:03:14 PM , Rating: 2
Doesn't SYNC do a decent job of controlling most MP3 players?

Yes, certainly less optimal than a true standard, but I somehow doubt that Apple would endorse a standard that let people use their iPod accessories with a non-Apple player, which a universal control protocol and plug would do. They have a vested interest in locking people into their brand, and such a standard would benefit everyone except Apple.


RE: Zune
By Moishe on 12/10/2009 1:27:16 PM , Rating: 2
The only way to unlock that would be to create a new standard that did the same thing (or better) and have that standard become popular. After awhile, Apple would have to cave if 90% of vehicles supported the new standard.

Most mp3 players don't have bluetooth. Maybe of them don't even include an external control scheme.


RE: Zune
By smackababy on 12/9/2009 2:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
I had an original Zune when it launched and bought the ZuneHD upon release (32GB model) and I love it. It is a fantastic MP3 player. The only downside I can even think of is there is no volume rocker. You have to do that with the touch screen, so it is difficult to do in the pocket.


RE: Zune
By theavner on 12/9/2009 4:28:07 PM , Rating: 2
There's a volume rocker on the upper left edge of the ZuneHD.


Macbook + Windows 7 = crappy battery life
By Devo2007 on 12/9/2009 5:23:43 PM , Rating: 2
You go and proudly boast about the Macbook's 7-hour battery life, and then indicate that you don't like the look of OS X.

Unfortunately, putting Windows 7 on a Macbook is a surefire way to kill your battery life quickly. You will not get anywhere close to 7 hours of battery life on that setup.




RE: Macbook + Windows 7 = crappy battery life
By benx009 on 12/9/2009 8:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
Can you even get 7 hours of battery life on Mac OS X L/SL? Even with low brightness and light word processing/web browsing going on, I hear that you can only achieve 4.5-5 hrs tops. Of course, what do I know, I don't own a MBP:P I'm a recent Mac convert though (got tired of the memory leaks, the viruses, the BSODs, etc.) and it sucks knowing that I may have to wait till Feb. or March of next year for the MBPs to get refreshed so I can finally snag one:))


By Devo2007 on 12/9/2009 8:25:43 PM , Rating: 2
Take a look at Anand's article about the latest Macbook Pros. Depending on what your doing (and which Macbook you get), you can come reasonably close.


By omnicronx on 12/10/2009 12:26:14 AM , Rating: 2
Ever stop to think that maybe Apple decided not to go the extra mile and tweak the hell out of all their bootcamp drivers?

The big advantage of making your own hardware is you only have to support a set amount of hardware. When you are focusing all your time and effort on set pieces of hardware it is a lot easier to optimize drivers, pair particular pieces of hardware etc.. etc.

Back to the topic, how would Apple ever benefit from going the extra mile to make Windows battery life better? I mean, on XP, my thinkpad's battery life when using stock settings is 2/3 the life compared to when I install the lenovo software.


Gateway not such a clear winner
By Suomynona on 12/9/2009 2:23:29 PM , Rating: 2
I'd like to point out a few features of the ASUS laptop that keep it competitive with the cheaper Gateway.

First off, the ASUS offers a full HD 1920x1080 screen. Not to mention the fact that at 15in the ASUS is the more portable option. I've used a few friends' 17in notebooks and wouldn't want to lug them anywhere.

Second, the ASUS comes with an empty 2nd HDD bay. In the long run this makes the ASUS the cheaper option for anyone looking to make the suggested SSD upgrade. Buy a smaller SSD for the OS and software while using the magnetic drive for the rest of your files that won't benefit from being stored on an SSD. Without the second drive bay you have to either buy a larger SSD to store everything. With 10gb+ game installations(this is a gaming notebook after all) even a 128gb SSD is going to feel mighty cramped. The other option is to move files to external storage. With a larger SSD you're looking at a drive that costs as much as or more than a netbook and external storage means a hassle accessing your files anytime you move your laptop.

Dual HDD bays are a great feature to have on notebooks and I hope ASUS keeps them around until SSD capacity and prices get better. It will be my primary purchasing factor when I replace my aging acer with a Arrandale system next year.




By Cheesew1z69 on 12/9/2009 3:06:35 PM , Rating: 1
I can add a second HDD to my Gateway FX, I can also upgrade the CPU. As far as the resolution, not everyone needs or wants 1980x1020 on a 17 in screen.


Not a bad list
By TMV192 on 12/9/2009 8:25:32 PM , Rating: 2
I don't have too many complaints, seems to me that people don't realize he made a picked a few good items for very broad categories, certainly you could nitpick a few things. But I do have a few suggestions.

1. The budget gaming laptops were a good call, but like you compared the ASUS to the Gateway FX, you should have compared the Macbook Pro to the HP Envy 15. For a while the Macbook Pro was in a market of it's own, high performance yet a sleek package, but now with the Envy 15 you get a slimmer and lighter size, and a better GPU, plus it's built for Windows 7. The choice will be how much you care for a DVD-Drive (I barely use it) and what OS you prefer

2. Didn't find the need to recommend an iPod Nano anymore, even Apple has said that the trend will be either PDA-like MP3 players (ZuneHD, Archos 5, iPod Touch...) or smartphones

3. While the 3GS is a good call, it's main advantage is the entertainment ability. Other than that it would have been nice to give people a recommendation based on carrier and/or OS preference. For me it would be the Palm Pre on Sprint for its look and feel and excellent multitasking, DROID on Verizon obviously being the most powerful android device yet, and probably the Bold 2 on T-Mobile, the best for the Blackberry fans




Why would anyone listen...
By roostitup on 12/10/2009 2:59:16 AM , Rating: 2
...to you biased articles and buy what you think is needed...no one cares. Go to the National Inquirer where people might actually listen to you.




Happy Droid User
By helpingout09 on 12/10/2009 1:21:10 PM , Rating: 2
While the iPhone does have more apps, I must say that I've been very impressed with the Droid. It really is very fast, multitasking is phenomenal, and I think the apps will be there in time.

I saved myself a great deal of money too, by using BuyDroidPhones.com




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