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Thompson says You don't know Jack

Jack Thompson, the infamous attorney that has been a factor in multiple anti-video game lawsuits, reportedly walked out of a hearing before the Florida Bar Association today. Thompson’s hearing went on without him and the Florida Bar Association recommended Thompson be disciplined with an “enhanced disbarment” stipulating that Thompson can’t apply to practice law again for a decade.

The reason Thompson cited for walking out of the courtroom was that Judge Dava Tunis, whom Thompson calls the referee, didn’t have the authority to hear his case. Thompson claims that Tunis has an invalid loyalty oath and that because the oath is invalid Tunis will be removed from office and can’t preside over his Bar hearing. Thompson also claims that Tunis forged a new loyalty oath to cover the fact that her original oath was invalid due to improper wording.

Thompson filed a massive and rambling 14 page document he titled “Thompson’s Formal Objection to June 4 Sanctions “Hearing””. Thompson points out in the opening lines of his objections that, “I depart from the traditional identification of myself, a party herein, in the third person and instead speak in my own voice in the first person directly to the referee.”  After all speaking about himself in the first person would make him sound crazy.

In the rambling objection document, Thompson claims that he has been denied is due process by not having the accusations against him made clear “in English any rational person can understand.” Thompson also claims that Tunis leaked the court document outlining that he was found guilty on 27 of the 31 counts raised by the Florida State Bar.

Thompson goes on to compare his quest to confront Howard Stern and his supporters to John the Baptist confronting Herod about marrying his brother’s wife.

The best sentence from the entire rambling document says, “The consequence of all of this post facto oath taking is that all that the Florida Supreme Court has done in this case is invalid and will be voided, and if you think I will not accomplish that end then a) you do not understand the lawsuit already filed, and b) you don’t know Jack.”





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Moron.
By Rugar on 6/5/2008 3:46:41 PM , Rating: 5
.... 'nuff said.




RE: Moron.
By Cobra Commander on 6/5/2008 3:59:45 PM , Rating: 5
I'm thinking "Crazy" might be more appropriate.


RE: Moron.
By BladeVenom on 6/5/2008 4:20:21 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
...in English any rational person can understand

Of course it goes without saying he isn't a rational person.

Comparing himself to John the Baptist? Don Quixote is more like it.


RE: Moron.
By bighairycamel on 6/5/2008 5:02:16 PM , Rating: 2
What a pompous egomaniac. This guy really does live on his own version of what we call "Earth".


RE: Moron.
By erikejw on 6/5/2008 8:36:05 PM , Rating: 2
God complex and narcissist


RE: Moron.
By aharris on 6/9/2008 12:14:17 PM , Rating: 2
What's the scientific term for that? I know a few people who could be described as such. =)


RE: Moron.
By eye smite on 6/9/2008 3:23:37 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm, 10 years in a new career, I wish him luck.


RE: Moron.
By SpaceRanger on 6/5/2008 11:10:47 PM , Rating: 5
He's living in Liberty City...


RE: Moron.
By amanojaku on 6/5/2008 5:48:28 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Don Quixote is more like it.


Yes, he certainly is a donkey. ;-)


RE: Moron.
By Macelind on 6/9/2008 11:39:54 AM , Rating: 5
Does that mean he is a Jack-ass?


RE: Moron.
By Oregonian2 on 6/5/2008 8:10:54 PM , Rating: 5
I think you're insulting Don Quixote. Don was a good-guy trying to do good. This guy isn't that at all, IMO.


RE: Moron.
By Truxy on 6/5/2008 9:06:55 PM , Rating: 5
You can't blame him really. It was probably written in lawyer-speak. This man is no lawyer.


RE: Moron.
By CascadingDarkness on 6/6/2008 2:02:33 PM , Rating: 2
Actually Jack is the only State Certified "Sane" lawyer.

Once you understand the true meaning of that line. It is highly amusing


RE: Moron.
By ImSpartacus on 6/5/2008 4:28:26 PM , Rating: 5
This story is nearly biased. Good thing it's biased in the correct position; Thompson is a dumbass.


RE: Moron.
By Yawgm0th on 6/5/2008 6:08:02 PM , Rating: 5
This is a blog post, not a news story. If it were pretending to be unbiased we'd potentially have an issue.


RE: Moron.
By ted61 on 6/5/2008 6:40:06 PM , Rating: 4
This post appears to be in the news section.

Biased or not, I like the article.


RE: Moron.
By peldor on 6/6/2008 9:10:05 AM , Rating: 4
Even more weird it appears in the Science section. Psychology of self-destructive behaviors??


RE: Moron.
By ImSpartacus on 6/6/2008 1:30:15 PM , Rating: 2
DT should have a "dumbass" section. Something tells me most of the Thompson stories would find there way into the section...


RE: Moron.
By aharris on 6/9/2008 12:16:28 PM , Rating: 3
"Dumbass" section...

...I wonder if Thompson uses "the internets"?


RE: Moron.
By daftrok on 6/5/2008 7:23:01 PM , Rating: 5
A bias story is a good story when no one disagrees. And its guys like this that are slowing us down. What people fail to realize is that games are a form of art, be it good, bad, ugly, erotic, whatever. Paintings depict a moment in time. Music depicts a sound in time. Movies depict both of these elements. Games are the next step: interacting with the pictures and sounds.

Just because its violent and erotic doesn't mean its dirty and should be shielded from our eyes. The Bloody Massacre was horrifically violent:
http://home.apu.edu/~blamkin/BostonMassacre.jpg

Picasso was blatantly sexual:
http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jconte/Images/Picasso...

But we accepted it because it was on a canvas. The Godfather had both violence and sex but it is considered the greatest movie of all time. And games have reached this level as well. Games like Grand Theft Auto and Metal Gear Solid are considered to be one of the greatest games/series ever made despite the fact that its violent and erotic.

So I guess all I can say is this: if you don't want your kids watching it/playing it/pleasuring themselves to it, then show some god damned discipline and some back handing and tell them what's what. But don't give censor our games (Manhunt 2). This is America, freedom of speech. Just have 3 ratings (E, T, M) and explain to the parents what it means. If they can't grow some balls and deal with their kids, that's their problem, but don't make us suffer for their stupidity.


RE: Moron.
By GaryJohnson on 6/5/2008 8:24:14 PM , Rating: 2
There are some censor everything extremists, but I think the core violent game argument is wether or not games should be rated by some government agency or not. That's a bit more of a gray area.


RE: Moron.
By othercents on 6/6/2008 10:42:39 AM , Rating: 2
Games should be rated just like movies are rated. Most parents take the time to watch what music their kids are listening too or what "art" they see. The rating system just lets the person know what is on the video or game without having to pre-watch every video or game to determine the content.

Granted, not all parents care what the rating is. Some take 6 year old children into R rated horror films and will buy GTA for the same child. The question is does a 6 year old know the difference between reality and fiction? If not then consistently exposing them to violent music, movies, and games could train them to decide this is acceptable. However if someone can see the difference between reality and fiction then it all becomes entertainment.

Other


RE: Moron.
By FS on 6/5/2008 10:01:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This story is nearly biased. Good thing it's biased in the correct position; Thompson is a dumbass.


I know what you mean, if it was solely about Rap/Hip Hop Music it would've been totally different. The people who think Jack Thompson is a jacka$$ and his arguments against game violence etc. don't make any sense would've completely agreed with the same arguments against the music. Go figure.


RE: Moron.
By MrBlastman on 6/5/2008 5:17:15 PM , Rating: 2
One state down...

49 to go!

*dances the bannana dance*


RE: Moron.
By Ogdin on 6/5/2008 7:19:48 PM , Rating: 2
One down, about a million to go.


RE: Moron.
By AstroCreep on 6/5/2008 9:35:01 PM , Rating: 4
As if none of us already knew that, I think this cements it:
quote:
...you don’t know Jack

Really? You said that in court? Why not just call the judge "Dude" while you're at it?

Tool...


RE: Moron.
By BandwidthHog on 6/6/2008 12:07:41 AM , Rating: 2
Hey, I have that same shirt from Kohl's.
And that is a BAD rug.


About time.
By pheffern on 6/5/2008 5:34:55 PM , Rating: 5
Thompson's been a blight on face of the American legal profession for years, it's fantastic that the Florida Bar has finally dealt with him.

The more noisy lunatic fringe lawyers that are disbarred, the better off we'll all be.




RE: About time.
By modestninja on 6/5/2008 6:28:43 PM , Rating: 5
"Thompson's been a blight on face of the American legal profession..."

Wow, you're the dregs of humanity when you even make other lawyers look good.


RE: About time.
By Parhel on 6/5/2008 11:54:17 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Wow, you're the dregs of humanity when you even make other lawyers look good.


No. Jack Thompson believes in what he's doing. That puts him above the vast majority of lawyers in my book, who for the most part are ripoff artists or opportunistic ambulance chasers.

He's crazy. That pretty much goes without saying. But, I have far more respect for the principled crazy man who doesn't care that the whole world is against him than I do for the lawyers who advertise on television encouraging people to file frivolous lawsuits, who sue corporations for profit, or who use their educations to defend illegal activities.


RE: About time.
By Bladen on 6/6/2008 6:14:29 AM , Rating: 1
The thing is; he is trying to force his beliefs onto others by making his desires laws. If I want to play a violent video game full of course language, then I'll play a freaken violent video game with a shite load of course language.

He may think his cause is just, but many others think otherwise.


RE: About time.
By Suntan on 6/6/2008 11:22:31 AM , Rating: 5
That is just what the practice of lawmaking is about, forcing your opinions upon everyone. If enough of the group agrees, then you win.

It would be wrong if the system treated him as: “We don’t want to hear from you, sit down and shut up.”

It is right that the system treated him as: “Ok, we heard you, but we don’t agree with you, now sit down and shut up.”

In any case, he may believe in his quest, but it sure sounds like he believes in himself more. Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of how the whole courtroom thing works can understand that you are not going to further your cause (getting all videogames banned) by standing up and taking your 15 minutes to give the middle finger to the judge. He did it for himself, not his cause.

-Suntan


RE: About time.
By Ish718 on 6/8/2008 3:53:33 AM , Rating: 2
lol nice, I couldn't have said it better.


RE: About time.
By Mojo the Monkey on 6/6/2008 1:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
It sounds like your stereotype of the legal profession comes from adopted complaints of television characters.

People who file lawsuits against corporations do more for the consumer, directly, than any law on the books. The same goes for criminal defense attorneys. People dont realize that the process of advocating for clients, and the resulting threat of litigation or criminals "walking free", have far-reaching prophylactic effects on almost every aspect of society.

Do you think the corporations are going to make sure your food doesn't have an abundance of carcinogens in it if you cant sue? Do you really think they're going to see "market forces" as enough of a threat to implement the expensive safety and quality standards that keep our food products safe? Do you think corporations arent going to unduly exploit and abuse their workers in the name of profits? Do you think the cops are going to respect your right to be free from unreasonable searches or illegal interrogation, just because they should?

Grow up. Human behavior is simple. We take serious steps to avoid negative consequences. Lawsuits are a huge pain in the ass to deal with and, as a result, we take actions to prevent certain situations from ever occuring; everyone wins. And dont think I'm biased here. I work on the opposite side of the plaintiffs I just discussed above and even I can appreciate the end result.

And regarding you praising a "principled" man who wants to change things no matter what people think? Thats what politics should be for. Using the court system to change the laws without proper representative support (ie; legislating changes) is underhanded. Why dont you complain about the political process instead?


RE: About time.
By Parhel on 6/6/2008 2:30:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It sounds like your stereotype of the legal profession comes from adopted complaints of television characters.


I've had plenty of first hand experience working with lawyers.

quote:
People who file lawsuits against corporations do more for the consumer, directly, than any law on the books.


That's a fact. But, for every legitimate consumer lawsuit, there are ten more where law firms actively solicit plaintiffs just to try and make a profit for themselves.

quote:
Do you think the corporations are going to make sure your food doesn't have an abundance of carcinogens in it if you cant sue?


Sure, left to there own devices corporations would likely poison us all without remorse. Lawyers are a necessary evil. So are the police. I hate them too.

quote:
People dont realize that the process of advocating for clients, and the resulting threat of litigation or criminals "walking free", have far-reaching prophylactic effects on almost every aspect of society.


I'm sure that's true for some as well. But if, for example, you got a DUI tonight, your chances of finding an "advocate" in the phone book are extremely slim. More likely, you'll find a predator in a cheap suit.

quote:
regarding you praising a "principled" man


I wasn't praising Thompson. I think he's out of his mind. I was merely stating that he operates on principle rather than profit, which is more than you can say for most lawyers.

quote:
Using the court system to change the laws without proper representative support (ie; legislating changes) is underhanded.


Also true. Legislating from the bench is an epidemic today. It's wrong, but it's a fact of life that has to be acknowledged if you're trying to affect policy.


RE: About time.
By Mojo the Monkey on 6/6/2008 6:10:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm sure that's true for some as well. But if, for example, you got a DUI tonight, your chances of finding an "advocate" in the phone book are extremely slim. More likely, you'll find a predator in a cheap suit.


Who, exactly, would a DUI defense attorney prey upon? The helpless city police department and the district attorney's office?

-horray for arguing for the sake of arguing!


RE: About time.
By pheffern on 6/7/2008 11:55:14 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for this - well said.

If the poster of the original reply has had a bad experience with a lawyer, that's regrettable, but if nothing else this story should make it apparent that there are remedies available for legitimate complaints in every state. If you feel you have been cheated, overcharged, or offered incompetent or subpar service, for example, you can take your complaint to the bar association. They have a vested interest in maintaining the image of the profession, meaning they will fully investigate any allegations of misbehaviour by their members, and they are supervised in doing so by the state courts.

As Mojo pointed out, it's easy to get sucked in by shows like Shark and Boston Legal... but they're a long way from the reality of practice. There are bad lawyers out there but for every crook and slime ball there are ten people who work earnestly and ethically for their clients and their communities.


RE: About time.
By Reclaimer77 on 6/6/2008 8:53:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No. Jack Thompson believes in what he's doing.


And you know this how ? The man refers to himself in the freaking third person during a serious hearing ! Hes a narsascist plain and simple ! He does whatever gives him a headline in the news.

quote:
He's crazy. That pretty much goes without saying. But, I have far more respect for the principled crazy man who doesn't care that the whole world is against him than I do for the lawyers who advertise on television encouraging people to file frivolous lawsuits, who sue corporations for profit, or who use their educations to defend illegal activities.


Bla bla bla whatever. Hes a person trying to ruin something for EVERYONE ELSE because hes a crazy narscascist ! How can you respect that ? Stop trying to martyr him for god sakes.

quote:
frivolous lawsuits


What !?? Every goddamned lawsuit hes ever FILED has been frivolous ! Hes wasted untold amounts of time and taxpayer money. All for what ? Stopping people from enjoying something that everyone has the right to NOT BUY if they don't like it.

Believe it or not that " vast majority " of lawyers you refer to have something Jack Thompson doesn't. Its called ETHICS ! If they didn't THEY would be getting disbarred in massive numbers just like Jack.


RE: About time.
By UNHchabo on 6/6/2008 12:36:00 PM , Rating: 2
I think it was Tycho who said "Thank God we're fighting Jack Thompson, lest his replacement actually be competent." I agree with that. If Jack Thompson sticks around, then our opposition will suck, and we'll be able to argue in an effective manner very easily. With someone actually competent on the "other side", we might not do so well.


that just goes to show....
By FingerMeElmo87 on 6/5/2008 4:02:50 PM , Rating: 3
.... hes a f**king retard




RE: that just goes to show....
By Scabies on 6/5/2008 4:46:12 PM , Rating: 5
Can we have?
By SavagePotato on 6/5/2008 5:28:45 PM , Rating: 4
I would be interested in the Florida supreme court holding a midnight Jack Thompson disbarment party, in true gtaIV style.

I know I would go and pay for my Jack Thompson 2008 disbarment tee shirt.




RE: Can we have?
By UNHchabo on 6/6/2008 1:08:12 PM , Rating: 2
It would be a good fundraiser for the state of Florida, then they could give their citizens a tax break this year!


Yum!
By HVAC on 6/5/2008 3:51:29 PM , Rating: 3
Someone just had their persecution complex fed a whole bunch of Wheaties.

I think this guy needs a sanity hearing followed by a nice long vacation.




All that work wasted
By Moebiwankenobi on 6/5/2008 3:53:14 PM , Rating: 3
I can't believe someone would be this nuts to go through the whole process to get your law degree and pass the bar just to piss it away. He's got some serious mental issues.




This read like a blog post
By crimson117 on 6/5/2008 6:43:39 PM , Rating: 3
Shaun, considering the amount of opinion you added to it, I think this article belongs in your blog.

On the other hand, the post about the ISS toilet read more like a news article, yet you put it in your blog.




Idiot
By Malikhan on 6/5/2008 6:16:00 PM , Rating: 2
Thompson's a tool, can he go away now?




Howard Stern?
By monitorjbl on 6/5/2008 9:03:01 PM , Rating: 2
If any of you read the letter Jack sent, could you please explain to me how he was protesting a Howard Stern broadcast on a local radio station. Are there still local stations that play that show? I was under the impression you could only listen to him through satellite radio; since the new FCC regulations, I'm amazed any local station could afford the fines for the raunchy stuff that goes on during the show.

By the way, I personally don't have a problem with Howard Stern's show, and I could care less if people say dirty words on the radio.




Interesting match-up
By jahinoz on 6/5/2008 11:12:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The reason Thompson cited for walking out of the courtroom was that Judge Dava Tunis, whom Thompson calls the referee, didn’t have the authority to hear his case.


"Toniiiight on ESPN football, Videogamers vs Thompson's Team with referee Dava Tuniiis. Big speculation earlier tonight Tom: Thompson himself called the referee a a sissy girl and walked out on the maaatch"
"Not much respect for the proper authority there Bob. I think he'll be no where near the bench for awhile if you know what I mean."




Finally :)
By Nik00117 on 6/6/2008 1:30:37 AM , Rating: 2
Got rid of the edit, maybe he will go away somewhere :)




Mel Gibson
By Oxonium on 6/6/2008 11:05:31 AM , Rating: 2
This guy has always kinda reminded me of how South Park portrays Mel Gibson. Both are bats**t insane.




I'm not one for 1337 speak
By 306maxi on 6/6/2008 12:05:55 PM , Rating: 2
But I believe that Jack has been "owned"




Der gonna take yer job!!!
By Integral9 on 6/6/2008 12:15:46 PM , Rating: 2
sucka...




Your the Banana King
By OdinX on 6/6/2008 12:24:00 PM , Rating: 2
Jack!, All hail the Banana king.




A nut
By Belard on 6/6/2008 2:50:22 PM , Rating: 2
We knew he was full of it...

... But I thought it was just a self-rightous big mouth idiot, not a complete nut-job. His 14page document alone shows he not playing with a full deck.




haha
By djkrypplephite on 6/7/2008 12:26:06 PM , Rating: 2
thank god they're disbarring his dumb ass. what a tool.




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