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Israel has grappled with the idea of hostile Islamic theocracies like Iran developing nuclear weapons and long range missiles.  The country has been hard at work at missile defenses, which it now brags are virtually impenetrable.  

But the small nation has another new weapon up its sleeve, to prevent a missile threat -- texting.  According to newly released information from the Israeli government, eViglio and Ericsson will be contracted to construct a new system which will send SMS text alerts to citizens who might be in the area targeted by an incoming missile.

The system will reportedly cost around $7M USD.

The messages will come in multiple languages (Hebrew, English, Russian, Arabic and Amharic).  They may also be broadcast to TVs, radios, websites and "billboards".  eViglio and the government brag that the system will be the first such SMS alert system that will detail how regions will be affected by an incoming assault based on their geography.

The system may also double to provide citizens with information in event of a natural disaster, such as a hurricane or earthquake.  Manmade threats are not the only dangers the small nation faces.  Israel historically has suffered a major earthquake every 80 years and it is reportedly overdue for one.

If you live in Israel (or are visiting) you might want to keep those phones charged and keep an eye on them.  After all, while most hope for a new and lasting security for Israel, history would suggest otherwise -- be the threats manmade or natural.

In the meantime Israel and its U.S. defense contractor allies are hard at work on both groundand air weaponry to keep a step ahead of its would-be attackers.  The nation is also working to improve its architecture, which is reportedly ill-prepared for a major earthquake event.



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Neat idea
By therealnickdanger on 11/8/2010 11:40:10 AM , Rating: 3
I've got friends and family that live in different parts of Israel, so I'll be sure to send this to them, in case they didn't already know. Since Israel is basically forced by her allies to fight with one hand tied behind her back, I suppose improvisations like this are vital.




RE: Neat idea
By sweatshopking on 11/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: Neat idea
By MrBlastman on 11/8/2010 12:23:10 PM , Rating: 3
I fail to see what is funny about Nick's post. The situation in Israel is serious. There are true lives at stake here and he was accurate in saying that Israel does partially have their hands tied.

They are surrounded on three sides by people who want them dead. All they did was reclaim holy land that arguably they have rights to and the Muslims are hell bent on destroying them completely.

I personally, fail to see what people's issue is with Jews. I know quite a few Jews myself and find that for the most part, they are all caring, compassionate and good-hearted people. Anti-semitism has never, ever made any sense to me whatsoever.

The people in Israel strongly believe in their cause. Sure, there is oppression of the Palestinians and it is tragic. It is also tragic that many Israeli lives are lost to suicide bombers and random rocket attacks. I myself don't exactly like the situation over there and wish that the Israeli's and the Palestinians, Hezbollah and beyond could get along without violence, but, alas, I conclude that for now that is impossible.

A text warning system that could possibly save Israeli lives makes absolute sense to me. It might cost them 7 million or so to implement the system but any lives saved are worth far more than that. I say kudos to Israel for this passive defensive system.


RE: Neat idea
By ClownPuncher on 11/8/2010 12:45:44 PM , Rating: 1
Agreed, mostly. Though most of the Hezbollah opposition are from a semetic dna line, semetic doesn't mean Jew.


RE: Neat idea
By ClownPuncher on 11/8/10, Rating: 0
RE: Neat idea
By NanoTube1 on 11/8/2010 1:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
Good post.
Thanks


RE: Neat idea
By nolisi on 11/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: Neat idea
By NanoTube1 on 11/8/2010 3:23:34 PM , Rating: 5
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However, their activities over the last 50-60 years have not been one of a self contained nation- their activities have resembled one of an imperialist nation whose interest is consuming more land for themselves.

On the contrary, it is the Arabs who behave in an imperialist way, they just lose the wars the launch against us and on several occasions we have gained land in victory.

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...they have adopted friendly stances.

No they have not. Do not confuse between political peace treaties and friendliness. They are not our friends - not by a long chance.

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Syria allows Israel to export goods through it and also provides supplies (such as water) to Israel.

Syria is not in a position to allow or disallow Israel anything. Natural sweet water is shared between the nations of the levant - to an extent. The only goods that I am aware of that are exported to Syria are apples grown by the druze communities - which is basically nothing.

quote:
The countries are not completely hostile in spite of the fact that Israel continues to place Palestinians as second class citizens and build settlements on Palestinian lands.

There are two types of palestinians - those who live in Israel and those who live in the former jordanian territories. Those who live in Israel are ordinary citizens and enjoy all the rights Jews have. Those who live in the former jordanian territories are NOT Israeli citizens at all.

What most people do not understand is that most of the hatred and abuse towards palestinians originate from the other arabs themselves! They are loathed by all arabs and have always been.


RE: Neat idea
By nolisi on 11/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: Neat idea
By NanoTube1 on 11/8/2010 6:38:40 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
You should review history and read up on the wars Israel has started Moshe Dayan (a prominent Israeli commander of the Haganah and IDF) himself has acknowledged Israeli aggression and provocation in the Six Day War.

Are you implying that the six days war was a result of Israeli provocation?
Actually, it was a direct result of Soviet intervention in the middle east. With regards to aggression and provocation you got to be kidding! Well, let me see - Syrians bombarding Israeli settlements in the north, Jordanians bombarding Israeli settlements in the middle of Israel and Egyptians closing the straights of Tiran - All *before* the six days war. In fact, palestinian attacks and provocations preceded even the birth of the state of Israel entirely and massacres of Jews in the land go back to the 1920s! Did Israel respond with aggressions of its own towards the arabs?! HELL YEAH! Would anyone do anything else?!

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Israel has also occupied Lebanese territory and even set up Nazi style (ironically) internment camps on Lebanese soil.

You should specify because I am not sure what you are talking about. Will be happy to address any example you might have.

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The decades long occupation of South Lebanon was not the result of Lebanese aggresion or warfare

Well, either you are ignorant about history or you are just inventing stuff as you go by. The Lebanon war was launched after numerous bloody attacks against Israeli civilians by Lebanese based Palestinian terrorist groups, mainly the PLO lead by Yasser Arafat. Some of these attacks where real blood baths. The actual trigger was an assassination attempt by the Lebanese based Abu-Nidal terrorist group of Shlomo Argov - the Israeli ambassador to the UK. The occupation of southern lebanon was in fact an effort to stop lebanese terror groups from reaching the Israeli border and was never intended to claim land. It worked very well for many years. I should know, I was there!

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...and only withdrew after it became too costly to hold the grounds.

Even though we did lose soldiers in combat, it was never "too costly" per se, the problem was a political one within Israel. There was an on-going protest by the Israeli left wing liberals arguing that the only purpose of Israel staying there was to maintain the security zone in itself and that it did not serve Israel's interests anymore. They successfully convinced the Israeli government to withdraw immediately and without reaching any kind of agreement. This was a bitter mistake - a mistake Hizballah, Iran and Syria took advantage of. This resulted in the outbreak of the second intefada, the second lebanon war and the 2009 operation in Gaza.

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There are many other examples of Israeli imperialism and hostility you should look into.

Please provide them.

quote:

A) This is an economic arrangment, not a military one, which implies that Syria chooses to provide water supplies. Syria probably does so in the interest of peace and economic cooperation. An Imperialist country who simply wanted to see Israel destroyed would not cooperate.

This is the difference between reading something about a place you know little about and actually understanding what it means in reality. To you it implies some sort of economic arrangement between Israel and Syria - a show of good will by enemies when in fact it is an arrangement between the Druze population of the Golan Heights and the Syrian regime. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH PEACE WITH ISRAEL. It is similar to the export of apples grown by the Druze to Syria. You should educate yourself about the Druze before you jump to foolish conclusions of economic arrangements.

quote:
B)If, as *you* seem to *imply*, that Syria has no choice in the matter, this would qualify as the behavior of a powerful imperial force imposing its will on a less powerful adversary- in effect taking resources (which is of course the hallmark of any imperial effort).

No no, you don't understand - in the ME, blocking the flow of fresh water *is the actual act of aggression*, not the other way around. Syria shares with Israel, Lebanon and Jordan, Israel shares with Lebanon, Jordan and the Palestinians, etc.

quote:
If this is true, then all the Arab nations should love Israel for removing Palestine from the map and settling on Palestinian land and all the Arab nations should coexist with Israel peacefully in thanks for the continued elimination of a hated people.

The fact that the rest of the arabs deeply detest the palestinians, does not imply that they love Israel. However, egypt and jordan did sign a peace treaty with Israel in spite the fact that the palestinians did not and still do not have a state of their own. What does that tell you?

quote:
Wait, remind me again- who is settling Palestinian territories? Is it other Arabs or Israelis?

It depends how you look at it. Historically speaking, it is the arabs settling Jewish lands. This settlement began more or less 200 to 300 years ago. Don't confuse between the fact that the land of Israel was under Islamic rule and the idea that it was settled by arabs. In fact, it was not. It might surprise you to learn that for example Gaza was a town settled by Jews and Christians with almost no muslim population just 250 years ago. These arabs you call palestinians arrived to the land seeking temporary work. They came mainly from Syria (to the center of Israel) and Egypt (to Gaza). Unfortunately, they stayed. Other Palestinians in the west bank are actually jewish families forcefully converted into Islam.
The ONLY original historical arab settlement in the land of Israel is Ramleh which was built as a administration center (Ramleh is near Tel Aviv).

So... who is occupying who's lands?


RE: Neat idea
By kingius on 11/10/2010 8:24:10 AM , Rating: 2
I think we both know who created the state of Israel, it was us, the British, when we had our Empire.

And there has been bloodshed over that scrap of dirt ever since.

It is madness.


RE: Neat idea
By NanoTube1 on 11/10/2010 2:00:10 PM , Rating: 2
The people who created Israel are the Jewish people, although britain did play a part.

Our home is not a "scrap of dirt", it is a land rich with history and natural beauty despite numerous muslim attempts to ecologically & culturally destroy it. It is also a modern place bustling with thousands of high-tech startup companies, cutting edge science faculties and international business & trade hubs.

Furthermore, it is not madness to fight for the only home we have on this planet, quite the opposite - it will be madness for us to give it up.

We are proud of Israel.


RE: Neat idea
By kingius on 11/11/2010 11:59:55 AM , Rating: 2
And so the insanity goes on, and on, and on, as people die for ideas ... and dust.


RE: Neat idea
By thrust2night on 11/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: Neat idea
By MrBlastman on 11/8/2010 4:23:22 PM , Rating: 2
Wow. I don't really know how to respond here.

I'm ignorant and a racist for saying the Jews are caring, compassionate and good-hearted people? I think it is amazing you deduced that from my comment, but, wow. You better call Nasa's psi-ops team and have them bring you in quick so they can study you.

I don't have to look far to see who is trying to kill the Jews. Oh, and yes, you're right, they aren't all Muslims. There was this German guy somewhere that somehow tried to kill them all...

But wait, what about the six-days war, the yom-kippur war? I can go on if you'd like. Nothing I said above is racist, at all, in any way. Neither is any of it ignorant either.


RE: Neat idea
By xsilver on 11/8/2010 5:17:31 PM , Rating: 2
I think what the OP is trying to say is that you only presented one side of the story - maybe a bit far to call it ignorant, biased maybe.

Saying that jews are caring people doesnt make them right - of course doesnt make them wrong either.

Problem is that there is more than 1 party with a legitimate claim on that land. Any adjudication by any court I believe will be ignored by the losing party.

By that deduction maybe the best solution is to have either nobody claim it or both settle on splitting it. Fighting over it can only work if the losing party is annihilated beyond belief. (even then they will bide their time until they can start the fighting again)


RE: Neat idea
By SunTzu on 11/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: Neat idea
By NanoTube1 on 11/8/2010 8:07:09 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Did you know that Israel is probably the only country in the world where you can be convicted of rape, by lying about your race to a girl?

Wrong, California and Tennessee also have "Rape by deception" laws, its called "rape by fraud".

quote:
A palestinian was recently convicted of rape after calling himself "Daniel" to a jewish girl, having consensual sex, and then being "outed" as a palestinian. Rape by deception, its called...

Wrong again, it was a part of a plea bargain, in a case which actually involved a very violent rape by this man.

Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception
quote:
...its one of the things that will show you just how racist Israel really is.
its one of the things that will show you just how ill informed people are... :\


RE: Neat idea
By v9s on 11/8/2010 8:36:27 PM , Rating: 2
Sigh....The evil muslims vs. the saintly jews argument again.

Listen, it is/was never about religion that the surrounding arabs hate israel.
Talk to any Arab and they'll tell you the reason why they dislike the Israeli govt is because of the aggression against Palestinians.

I'm not saying the Palestinians sre innocent either. Both parties are to blame for the current situation.


RE: Neat idea
By roykahn on 11/8/2010 9:51:32 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Both parties are to blame for the current situation.


More like 90% of the blame goes to Israel. Their constant disregard of international law and horrible human rights history speaks volumes. Don't forget their ties with the US and all the military aid they receive which they are far from shy about using.


RE: Neat idea
By poohbear on 11/9/2010 1:10:23 AM , Rating: 2
u're mixing up anti semitism and anti israelism. They are two completely different things. Many liberal Israeli Jews do NOT agree with what the israeli government does to palestinians, does that make them anti-semitic??? its disgusting that AIPAC has tried to smudge that line, but they have, and u get nonsense like "oh if u criticize Israel u're anti-semitic."

And im sorry European Jews have no claim to Israel, how on earth can you make land claims based on stuff that happened 2000 years ago in the Roman empire???? Hey since the Romans expelled them lets give them a part of modern Rome too as compensation! I'm sure the Italians would LOVE that!(just like the Arabs love Israel) Its laughably absurd.


RE: Neat idea
By chick0n on 11/9/2010 3:49:13 PM , Rating: 2
so have u ever wonder why three sides of them want them dead? Cuz these "so innocent" jews took their land. Its simple as that.

Israel always provoking people around the area.

Sure its sad to see jewish people dying, but do you even have a single clue of how many people got killed by Israel government ? I bet you won't see those news on NBC or Fox (or from any Jewish controlled media)


RE: Neat idea
By drycrust3 on 11/8/2010 2:38:21 PM , Rating: 1
That is a sad example of the use freedom of speech on the internet, that freedom was given to us at the cost of millions of lives. Your response suggests you don't care that many people with lots of power don't like us having freedom of speech on the internet.
A much better response would have been to explain why you think Israel's use of cellphone technology to alert people of military aggression is humourous.


RE: Neat idea
By MozeeToby on 11/8/2010 1:02:45 PM , Rating: 2
If Israel chose to fight with both hands out in front (presumably meaning all out assaults on anyone who threatens her) either the US would be pulled into a regional, multinational war that makes the Iraq and Afghanistan wars look like skirmishes or Israel would fall out outside aggression within a year. They would be fighting a 3 front war against assailants only one or two tech generations behind them. Not to mention the large population of Arabs and Persians living inside their borders might not be too supportive of attacking the neighbors.

Of course, if Israel were to fall, they've semi-publicly stated that they are prepared to use the Samson option: light off their nukes and pull the whole region (and quite possibly the entire world) into nuclear conflict. There are lots of very good reasons that the US wants Israel to fight with one hand behind it's back, the alternative is much more dangerous for everyone, including Israel. Of course, Israel can't admit that, because any sign of weakness could bring their much more numerous enemies down upon them.


RE: Neat idea
By therealnickdanger on 11/8/2010 2:00:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Not to mention the large population of Arabs and Persians living inside their borders might not be too supportive of attacking the neighbors.

Except that those people are often the victims of rocket attacks and suicide bombing, just like everyone else that lives there. A lot of people seem to forget that Israel is made up of many different races, religions, and nationalities. It's still only about 50% Israeli-born Jews, the rest are immigrants from around the globe or those that chose legal residency after the formation of Israel. All these residents have a stake in the prosperity of Israel.


RE: Neat idea
By MozeeToby on 11/8/2010 2:44:32 PM , Rating: 2
I don't disagree that the vast majority would side with Israel, especially if Israel is seen, either via reality or propaganda, as having 'right' on their side. The thing is, it doesn't take very many people acting against Israel from within its borders to cause major problems. Even a thousand people (less than .1% of the Arab population) could cause enough problems within the borders to pull troops and resources back to the home front.


RE: Neat idea
By NanoTube1 on 11/8/2010 3:39:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Not to mention the large population of Arabs and Persians living inside their borders


We don't have Persians living in Israel. They live a very long distance from us, thank you very much.

Anyway, your assumption that we will inherently need to use nuclear power in an all out war scenario is patently false. You assume that since the arabs have numerical superiority, they also posses the capability to launch an endless, full scale, military operation against us. You are of course wrong.

What they can do and actually did is launch short, full scale wars against us (1948, 1967, 1973) AND constantly harass us with terror campaigns, raids on our civilian population and fire from afar (katyusha and qassam rockets) on our towns and cities. Fortunately, they have failed in all their military endeavors.


RE: Neat idea
By nolisi on 11/8/2010 5:37:06 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
What they can do and actually did is launch short, full scale wars against us (1948, 1967, 1973) AND constantly harass us with terror campaigns, raids on our civilian population and fire from afar (katyusha and qassam rockets) on our towns and cities. Fortunately, they have failed in all their military endeavors.


For historic accuracy, you might want to mention:

A) That Israeli military leaders have admitted aggression and use of "terror" in instigating the conflicts in 1967 and it was Israel who then formally declared war.
B) It is Israel that has consistently attempted to occupy lands of other countries which was the (such as the Golan Heights and Sinai Peninusla) which is why the 1973 war was started.

quote:
AND constantly harass us with terror campaigns, raids on our civilian population and fire from afar (katyusha and qassam rockets) on our towns and cities.


Israel is just as guilty of all of this, and has in almost every case verifiably killed more civilians in both Israel instigated as well as Arab instigated hositilities.


RE: Neat idea
By BZDTemp on 11/9/2010 1:03:17 PM , Rating: 2
I call BS!

What is going on in Israel is due to how Israel goes about it's business. Israel needs to go back to at least the 1967 borders. Close all of the settlements and stop being all "Old Testament" about things.

Say what allies are forcing Israel to building settlements? Or to keep people in camps for decades?


Jason still up to his racist ways
By SunTzu on 11/8/10, Rating: 0
RE: Jason still up to his racist ways
RE: Jason still up to his racist ways
By v9s on 11/9/2010 7:59:01 AM , Rating: 3
Your sources are "religionofpeace.com" and "answeringislam.org"

That's like me going to al-gore's website to prove that global warming factually correct.


RE: Jason still up to his racist ways
By v9s on 11/9/2010 8:01:16 AM , Rating: 2
*is*


RE: Jason still up to his racist ways
By hsew on 11/9/2010 9:52:58 AM , Rating: 2
You haven't answered my question.

How is Islam a race?


By rennya on 11/9/2010 10:57:33 AM , Rating: 2
Because anyone who was born under Muslim parents will stay a Muslim and cannot change his/her religion unless being stoned to death is a pleasurable pastime for you.

This is kinda like, if you were born under Persian parents, you cannot change your race to Indian no matter how you try.

Remember, in Islam, there are no such thing such as freedom of religion. If you were born under Christian parents, at least you can convert to Islam/Buddhism/Taoism etc. without any repercussions.


Good idea
By Suntan on 11/8/2010 12:10:43 PM , Rating: 2
I like how the article made a really poor stab at insinuating this was to warn against impending nuclear strikes, but the more common threat is for conventional munitions to be lobbed in from just outside their border. With the intention of creating whatever indiscriminate damage they can. As such, the difference between life and death may be having enough warning to get into the center of a building from outside.

It makes sense really, to use all/the same communications that people use on a daily basis. Similar to Amber Alerts in the States.

-Suntan




RE: Good idea
By marvdmartian on 11/8/2010 12:27:47 PM , Rating: 2
The first thing I thought of, when I saw the article heading, is that the one person who will be greatly benefitted by this will be the obnoxious JERK in the dark movie theater, who's busy calling and texting during the movie, and thoroughly pissing everyone else off.

So Israelis, if you see that guy suddenly take off, follow him!!


RE: Good idea
By priusone on 11/8/2010 11:20:38 PM , Rating: 2
Out of curiosity, I called a friend and asked him to look over the article. I pretty much knew that he wouldn't really grasp the importance of this as he's never experienced having mortars lobbed towards him.

This is a great example of 'geez, why didn't I think to suggest that.'


double standard
By poohbear on 11/9/2010 1:01:06 AM , Rating: 2
Wish Israel would do the same to palestinian civilians when it bombs the crap out of gaza.




RE: double standard
By Chillin1248 on 11/9/2010 7:50:07 AM , Rating: 3
Just for your information, they did.

Every time a house was targeted, leaflets were dropped and several phone calls made to the residence warning all civilians to flee the immediate area while the terrorists were taken care of.

I have an interesting statistic to throw at you. In 2009 Gaza "Cast Lead" operation, a supposed 1,000 Palestinians were killed. Of those there are confirmed ~550 known terrorists, and around ~50 suspects (these could be people unaffiliated with terrorist groups but still fired on Israeli troops). In addition the natural death rate in Gaza per month is around ~480-540.

So you do the math.

-------
Chillin


Good idea, but....
By KingConker on 11/8/2010 1:56:21 PM , Rating: 2
how 'smart' will this system potentially be?

Surely you don't want to blanket text citizens, you don't want to cause unnecessary panic - surely?

These missiles are tracked by ground radar/satellite, so I'm guessing you have a broad idea of where they might land? Not everyone has a smart phone and besides - the telco's would need access to the GPS transponders (missile app perhaps, I'm being serious). Anything that could help.

So will the telco's be able to just text citizens closest to the base stations where the missiles are likely to land, via triangulation? I realise there will be some approximation here.

Or am I trusting too much faith and therefore lives in such technology?




RE: Good idea, but....
By kattanna on 11/8/2010 3:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
the one killer of this system though is response time.

local rocket launches are affairs of a few minutes from launch to impact. not enough time to become aware of launch and send an alert that would be of any good.

i can actually though see the hamas/Palestinians making use of this to create even more panic with each missile launched.

or it suffering the "cry wolf" syndrome so that real events are ignored.

anyways, even if a real missile threat from iran, people would still only have mere minutes to do anything, and if the missle is coming from iran, then its going to be such that it will wipe out neighborhoods and those within will not have time to evacuate.

this to me feels like nothing more then a means to give a "sense" of security then anything real.

now as for the natural disaster side of it, it could be helpfull as long as the event wasnt such that power and cell service went out anyways.


Very interesting...
By vortmax2 on 11/8/2010 1:16:08 PM , Rating: 3
This interesting from Zechariah 12:1-5...written in 520BC...

1 A prophecy: The word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit in human beings, declares: 2 “I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. 3 On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. 4 On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness,” declares the LORD. “I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations. 5 Then the clans of Judah will say in their hearts, ‘The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the LORD Almighty is their God.’




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