is still considering whether or not it wants to purchase the Lockheed
Martin F-35 Lightning II (also known as the Joint Strike Fighter)
aircraft, as Defense Minister Ehud Barak and other Israeli government
officials discuss the expensive investment.Previous approval
granted Israel the right to purchase 75 JSFs, but Israel initially
only wants just 20 aircraft. The country expects to pay more
than $140 million for each F-35, and it's unknown if Israel will be
able to install all of its own equipment into the
aircraft.Previously, the U.S. government said it would remove
some of its own hardware and offer an alternative or allow the
purchasing nation to make slight alternations. Continued
negotiations take place, but it's likely Israel will fulfill the rest
of its order after the first 20 aircraft are accepted."We
work according to the assumption that other countries
will receive the jet, and that is why we need to be the first,”
an IDF officer recently disclosed. "The JSF not only
provides unbelievable capabilities, but will also assist Israel in
boosting its deterrence.”After agreed upon configurations,
Israel will begin to receive its new aircraft by the end of 2015,
with future orders expected to arrive shortly after. Although
there are some early contract problems, Israel and the United States
are expected to come to a fair agreement as quickly as
possible.Lockheed Martin has been given approval to sell the
aircraft to select countries, but cannot offer certain electronics
and hardware aboard the aircraft.The Australian military is
interested in purchasing up to 100 JSF, but want to see additional
testing information before purchasing the costly aircraft. If
an agreement with Lockheed cannot be finalized, it's possible
Australia will work with Russia. Canada is expected
to purchase up to 65 JSF -- negotiations are ongoing with
other countries as well.
quote: Secondly even though the fact that the holocaust was obviously terrible there must be a reason why almost no country in the region supports israel.
quote: Translation: Reclaimer77 hates Palestinians.
quote: its the shadiest thing our government does
quote: the defense industry is the biggest industry in America
quote: Another example is 9/11, which could have been prevented simply by not training the terrorists how to fly commercial airliners, and/or by keeping people whose visas have expired from boarding planes without being searched.
quote: Oh wait, Because Israel is our friend?
quote: Our .gov gives them something like 2 billion a year in aid
quote: He wasn't making a deductive argument.
quote: You can spend money you don't have by borrowing it, which the US government can do for 1% interest or so.
quote: Okay I'll play, spending 2.3 trillion and not collecting 2.3 trillion that needs to be spent is still adding 2.3 trillion to our balance sheets.
quote: We added around 4 trillion to the debt under Bush
quote: So no, you can't just say "oh, tax cuts weren't spent they just weren't collected, hehehe"
quote: As for my comment being fallacious, I clearly state (and therefore imply agreement) that the increases ARE massive because I say "and are only massive because".
quote: Instead of fallacious what my comment was was poorly worded
quote: So instead of saying Bush "spent" money on those tax cuts, I should have said Bush borrowed 173.9% of the total of those tax cuts during his terms.
quote: The difference is typing "spent", while i admit is not what literally happened with the tax cuts
quote: On the first comment, you are stuck on the tax cuts only
quote: Obviously we spent money on many things over 8 years, none of which had to be tax cuts in order to spend 2.3 trillion dollars that we didn't have.
quote: I owe 3 lollipops I've already eaten to Ron. Jimmy owes me 2 lollipops, but Jimmy is such a great friend I tell him to forget about it. Then I borrow 5 lollipops from Tom so I can give Ron his 3 lollipops and eat the other 2.
quote: Our Congress has a problem controlling spending
quote: and our Presidents come up with a budget every year that outlines that spending in great detail versus the Congress that comes up with a very broad budget each year after the President submits his.
quote: I'd like to summarize this little argument with a fitting slogan: The Washington Post - If you don't get it, you don't get it.
quote: and yet that is what you continue to needlessly rail on.
quote: Then in my last comment when I guess I finally make it clear enough that I agree with that statement
quote: your comments start to have less and less substance as we go on and have turned into a "show the clip" segment like on O'Reilly or The Daily Show where they either take a small percentage of what someone said and comment on it as if it were the whole of the argument or they make light of the comment to lessen the meaning.
quote: Im pretty sure if Intel open a new lab here, they can design the same if not better than Core series processor.
quote: -ADM-141 TALD (Improved Tactical Air Launched Decoy)- device used to protect U.S. warplanes from enemy fire.-AGM-142 Have Nap "The Popeye" - a precise bomb which hits specific coordinates-Several Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.-Python missile - A major air to air missile..-Cardom - A 120mm Recoil mortar system using modern electronic navigation, self-positioning, and target acquisition.-Gabriel missile - A sea skimming Anti-ship missile.-LITENING targeting pod - A precision targeting pod designed to increase combat effectiveness of aircraft.-Samson Remote Controlled Weapon Station - A Remote weapon system.
quote: "Our nation's new fighter's external design and aerodynamics configuration are completely made by us and did not receive foreign assistance, this made me very proud. Our nation developed J-9 in the 1960s, this adopted the canard configuration. So, those statements that said J-10 is a copy of Israeli Lavi are just laughable." - General designer of J-10, Mr. Song Wencong
quote: Honestly I don't see how they could go through all the code that is going to be on the jet in order to be certain there are no such back doors.
quote: How Much it Really Costs?In July this year Canada has ordered 65 F-35As fora total amount of C$9 billion, reflecting a flyaway cost of $138 million. According to Lockheed Martin, the Canadian F-35A is configured as the least costly version of the aircraft offered at a cost of US$60 million per aircraft. The remaining amount reflect training, logistics and support costs. Israel is expected to opt for one of the more expensive versions of the stealth fighter, therefore it was priced slightly above the average cost of the F-35A (US$92.5 million). The manufacturer Lockheed Martin is offering the new fighter with turnkey life cycle support program. Although the cost and specific details of these support packages has not been announced yet, given the high readiness level required by the IAF, U.S. analysts have determined the estimated life cycle cost of the aircraft could reach up to $380 million.http://www.defense-update.com/features/2010/august...