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Software Internet Explorer 7.0 Final Released
Brandon Hill (Blog) - October 18, 2006 9:48 PM
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Microsoft unleashes its next generation browser

Microsoft has released the final version of Internet Explorer 7.0 to the public. The latest version of the browser is available for the following operating systems:

Internet Explorer 7.0 has been brought to the modern age of browsing with tabbed browsing, integrated RSS and enhanced printing capabilities which keeps it more in line with rivals Firefox and Opera.

Just yesterday, the Mozilla Foundation released Firefox 2.0 RC3 and the company is confident that the browser is ready for public release.

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No SP1?
By gramboh on 10/18/06, Rating: 0
RE: No SP1?
By gersson on 10/18/06, Rating: -1
RE: No SP1?
By JBird7986 on 10/18/2006 11:29:51 PM , Rating: 2
I was running SP1 until about two weeks ago, spyware/virus free. The only reason I went to SP2 was because they killed support for SP1 on the 10th of October.


RE: No SP1?
By bubbl07 on 10/18/2006 11:55:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You've got to be kidding. Your PC must be an adware, spyware, virus, trojan infested nightmare. For the love of god, a new OS, Vista, will be released in the near future and you're still with SP1!
That'll happen with Windows in general. Just because SP2 has taken precautions to help remedy some of the malware, Windows is still Windows. He's sacrificing security for the sake of convenience, much the same way you are by using Windows instead of an operating system less prone to malware.

"For the love of god, OSX or *nix are less prone to malware, and you're still with Windows!"

lol hypocrite.


RE: No SP1?
By Wwhat on 10/19/06, Rating: 0
RE: No SP1?
By cgrecu77 on 10/19/2006 9:00:30 AM , Rating: 5
only about 85% of the internet users out there ... Did you actually bother to test the IE7, or you just "know" that anything that comes from MS is rubbish and should not be touched ...


RE: No SP1?
By AncientPC on 10/19/2006 10:10:40 AM , Rating: 1
I agree. A handful of my systems don't have any service packs / anti-virus software at all but they are completely fine.

You can get away with it as long as you take necessary precautions and don't run unsafe software.


RE: No SP1?
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 11:21:14 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
The 'security' Sp2 brings is only valid for people who don't know much about computers, for a slightly techsavy person SP2 doesn't do anything positive extra.

LOL, you just expose your ignorance about SP2. Use google to learn more about SP2. It has a large number of security improvements througout that have nothing to do with how sophisticated a user is.


RE: No SP1?
By mindless1 on 10/19/2006 1:28:44 AM , Rating: 1
Actually anyone who practices safe computing, continually rather than only the mirage of doing it for one moment at a time, had to find secure procedures, apps or patches/workarounds before SP2 ever existed, and thus once SP2 did exist, didn't need SP2.


RE: No SP1?
By RMSe17 on 10/19/2006 11:05:39 AM , Rating: 2
Yep. And from time to time, there would be a security update to a problem that only existed in SP2, and not in SP1. Sometimes vice versa.

I never used SP2, only SP1, and I never got a virus or a spyware infection. For some time I used a firewall (AtGuard, Conseal, BlackIce(crap), ZoneAlarm, ZoneAlarm Pro), sometimes not.. depended on whether I felt like paying for a year or not.. Some years I had antivirus installed (Norton first, then Kaspersky) some years I didn't, once again, depended on how I felt in regards to money. It didn't matter if I had them or not, I never got any infections while using Windows. Ever. (This includes my first Win95B install on my first computer and everything after)


RE: No SP1?
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 12:43:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yep. And from time to time, there would be a security update to a problem that only existed in SP2, and not in SP1. Sometimes vice versa.

Please let us know some of the exploits that exist in SP2 and not SP1. I did a bit of searching, and I could not find any.


RE: No SP1?
By MrDiSante on 10/18/2006 10:47:00 PM , Rating: 2
Can you say "usable browser" for SP2? The thing that would let activeX just randomly run without your permission or any sort of interaction is beyond description. IE7 on the other hand is a perfectly acceptable browser. I'm amazed. Anyhow you'll definitely be wanting to get this, I recommend it to anyone who uses FF 1.5 or below, or IE6 (though I don't see why you'd be using IE6).


RE: No SP1?
By Wwhat on 10/19/2006 12:19:10 AM , Rating: 1
Although the activex thing is of course a big part of the issue with IE6 and earlier it certainly isn't the only one, and for me microsoft has to come with some pretty overwhelming proof IE7 is secure, and the holes that were found so far in IE6 that were also present in the IE7 beta aren't expediting that.


RE: No SP1?
By Christopher1 on 10/19/2006 3:50:59 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree. Internet Explorer 7 is HUGELY better than IE6, by factors.

Anti-phishing controls, no more ActiveX installing/running without your permission, and numerous other changes to make it better.

Internet Explorer 7 still has SOME flaws (like some online games I had won't work with it installed) but those are more problems with the game manufacturers and people who make software.


Not too bad... But Opera Rules
By Einy0 on 10/19/2006 5:18:04 AM , Rating: 1
I've been playing with IE7 for a while now. While it's a huge jump over IE6<- Total Crap. I still can't see a reason to give up Opera for it and if not Opera then Firefox.




RE: Not too bad... But Opera Rules
By snyper256 on 10/19/2006 7:17:28 AM , Rating: 2
You have to uninstall the prerelease versions first.


RE: Not too bad... But Opera Rules
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 11:17:26 AM , Rating: 2
I like Opera too, but the reality is that a number of web sites don't work properly with Opera (latest version). Maybe 5% of sites have some problems in my experience. So even if you have Opera loaded, you probably still need IE as a back-up.

I can't understand Microsoft's decision to not incorporate more features from Opera into IE7. Opera has some nice usability features, and it seems like they would be relatively easy to incorporate into IE7.


RE: Not too bad... But Opera Rules
By PAPutzback on 10/19/06, Rating: -1
RE: Not too bad... But Opera Rules
By Kakumba on 10/19/2006 5:11:59 PM , Rating: 2
As a web developer, I kinda hate Opera. I find it the hardest browser to make sites work properly in. IE isnt always easy, especially between versions, but thankfully there are many, MANY websites devoted to making things work in IE.. Except IE7 hasnt got so much documentation yet (and there are still issues, not many, but a few minor things Im hoping this latest one will fix)

Firefox will be my favourite for the foreseeable future.



RE: Not too bad... But Opera Rules
By wallijonn on 10/19/2006 6:06:14 PM , Rating: 2
I've also been using Opera, but it doesn't have the two extensions which I consider essentials: cookie culler and undo-tab. IE7 also does not have an undo-tab function. And why pay for IE extensions when I can get them for free with FF?


extensions...
By Xavian on 10/18/2006 11:15:59 PM , Rating: 5
Extensions is what will keep me from going to IE7 im afraid, the ability to easily download small xpi files to customise and extend the use of FF is one of its biggest selling points. I heard IE7 has extensions of a sort, but not as easy to install or has such a variety as FF (probably due to the fact that FF is open source and IE7 isn't)

So until the time Microsoft offers a browser with decent extension support, i wont be going near it. Sure FF is more difficult to setup in the beginning, but once you have it set up how you want it, its difficult to beat.




RE: extensions...
By dreddly on 10/19/2006 4:05:16 AM , Rating: 3
I agree, I use Noscript and Flash block for a much more secure surfing expereince. I tried IE7 and frankly the phishing tool seems desinged too annoy more than protect (which is good for amateur users). The thing that made me go right back to FF was the inability to select multiple bookmarks in the bookmark manager, I am not moving each individually so that my FF toolbar bookmarks will be accessible in IE7.


RE: extensions...
By PAPutzback on 10/19/06, Rating: -1
report
By mgambrell on 10/18/2006 11:59:24 PM , Rating: 2
Cleartype has been disableable for quite some time now.
Unfortunately they never bothered to fix some bugs that irritate me with mwheel-clicking to release drag mode fires whichever link the mouse cursor is over :(




RE: report
By jamesbond007 on 10/19/2006 12:03:39 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks!


RE: report
By mgambrell on 10/19/06, Rating: -1
RE: report
By mgambrell on 10/19/2006 12:16:54 AM , Rating: 1
Well. Come to think of it, the blank space that I object to is for tabs. When tabs are disabled the space stays blank. Thanks microsoft.


RE: report
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 11:24:28 AM , Rating: 2
When I disable tabbed browsing, there is no blank space left where the tabs were. The toolbar slides to the left, that's all. Not sure what you're doing or seeing different.

Anyway, tabbed browsing is well worth the extra space - why turn it off?


RE: report
By PAPutzback on 10/19/06, Rating: -1
RE: report
By mgambrell on 10/19/2006 12:35:46 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, the toolbar slides over. I don't want the toolbar either. But you can't turn off the toolbar.

I dont use tabs because I dont like tabs. I am perfectly content with alt-tabbing. Ctrl+tabbing something that used to be alt-tabbing seems pointless, unless theyre all part of an editing or viewing session where you are working with several documents. I dont view my websurfing activities that way.


windows update
By Missing Ghost on 10/18/2006 9:59:00 PM , Rating: 2
Not on windows update yet.... or at least for me, I have the french version of windows XP pro.




RE: windows update
By peritusONE on 10/18/2006 10:01:39 PM , Rating: 2
......and it won't be on Update for quite some time, at the very least a couple of weeks. Consider it a fair warning if you planned on waiting.

I've been using IE7 since they released the public beta, and it's come a long way. Well worth the download IMO.


RE: windows update
By PitViper007 on 10/19/2006 2:18:29 PM , Rating: 2
Actually I think it's supposed to be part of WU in the first part of November

quote:
Key Delivery Details
• October 2006 - target date for IE7 (English)
• November 1, 2006 - date by which customers wishing to block Automatic Updates delivery of IE7 should have blocking measures in place.


Quoted from my MS newsletter dated 10/18.

PitViper


Install IE7 final and get IE6
By probedb on 10/19/2006 5:54:37 AM , Rating: 2
Yep, that's what happened. Had IE7RC1 installed at work. Ran the installer, it finished and told me to reboot. Rebooted, it ran the whole installer again then when I got back into Windows I was running IE6!?!?!?

WTF!!!!




RE: Install IE7 final and get IE6
By snyper256 on 10/19/2006 7:16:32 AM , Rating: 2
You have to uninstall the prerelease versions first.


RE: Install IE7 final and get IE6
By probedb on 10/19/2006 8:10:31 AM , Rating: 2
Nope, it does that itself. Even tells you it's uninstalling old versions. Just decides not to install itself.

Found out it's to do with some admin rights.


ClearType
By jamesbond007 on 10/18/2006 10:53:59 PM , Rating: 2
I have tried a beta from a long time ago - can you disable ClearType yet? That was my biggest problem with it.

Those of you who are using it, do your banking sites allow it? I also had some troubles visiting some sites with it because it wasn't compatible in some way.




RE: ClearType
By Nekrik on 10/19/2006 2:19:18 AM , Rating: 2
There's an option to enable/disable clear type on the first page presented on first launch, you can also configure them under the Advanced options tab. I haven't had any problem with any of my online account sites, (banking, utilities, etc...). To me it seems a more responsive than RC1 was.


Won't install
By Varun on 10/18/2006 11:43:06 PM , Rating: 2
I sure wanted to try this out, but it won't install on my legit fully patched XP Pro SP2 machine. The errors are registry keys that can not be accessed. I even tried in Safe Mode but no luck. No IE7 for me...




RE: Won't install
By Duwelon on 10/19/2006 8:30:55 AM , Rating: 2
Try installing it under the "Administrator" account, even if your normal account is an administrator.


No uninstall for add ons
By Randalllind on 10/19/2006 10:35:47 AM , Rating: 2
What sucks is you can only disable add ons there is no uninstall for add ons.

You can go in and disable them but that's not the same. You can even delete them from program files but, they are still listed in manage add ons and if you remove a toolbar by deleting it from program files it will show up as grey out under Tools | Toolbars




RE: No uninstall for add ons
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 11:29:21 AM , Rating: 2
Add-ons need to be uninstalled using the add-on's uninstaller. Internet Explorer is correct in allowing them to only be disabled. If an add-on doesn't supply an uninstaller, it doesn't make sense to blame IE for that, any more than it would make sense to blame Windows for not being able to uninstall an application where the application publisher didn't provide uninstall capability.


Looking good
By GreenEnvt on 10/18/2006 10:54:59 PM , Rating: 3
So far so good, I've used the beta's in Vista, and was impressed.
I used to use firefox but gave it up for Opera9, so far these seems even better.
I run into pages frequently that won't run properly in Opera or FF, which in no way is their fault, it's due to pages being written to work around IE6's bugs, but annoying none the less.
With IE7 it seems to be the best of both worlds for now.
I know it's still not upto snuff on the WC3 standards, but it's good for what I use it for.




By greyparrot1 on 10/20/2006 4:15:54 AM , Rating: 2
I just installed Internet Explorer 7 & it caused my MusicMatch 7.5 not to work. I uninstalled Internet Explorer 7 & then restored my XP to a restore point I created just before installing Internet Explorer 7 & MusicMatch worked. Then re-installed Internet Explorer 7 & MusicMatch 7.5 doesn't work. Conclusion, if you have MusicMatch 7.5 installed & you want it to work, don't install Internet Explorer 7




first
By KeypoX on 10/18/06, Rating: -1
RE: first
By Wwhat on 10/19/06, Rating: -1
RE: first
By alfiej on 10/19/2006 6:36:10 AM , Rating: 2
It crashes for me. I've ran it 3 times, it's crashed 3 times.. It says something about a problem with one of the add-ons.. Bummer, I really wanted to try this version of IE.. Haven't used it in at least 2 years. :/


RE: first
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 11:27:02 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe look in the Add On Manager and see if you can delete/disable the add-on in question?


RE: first
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 2:08:15 PM , Rating: 2
I am also seeing a problem with an add-on in the released version. IE7 is telling me there is a problem in flash9.ocx (Adobe Shockwave/Flash player). IE7 then exits. I've only seen this once so far, however.


Quero: Convenient Add-On for IE7
By Viktor78 on 10/19/06, Rating: -1
MOZILLA!
By daftrok on 10/19/06, Rating: -1
RE: MOZILLA!
By RMSe17 on 10/19/2006 11:07:04 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, IE7 is made my Microsoft.
If you are looking for Mozilla products, you got the wrong article buddy.


RE: MOZILLA!
By anilpassi on 10/19/06, Rating: 0
RE: MOZILLA!
By TomZ on 10/19/2006 4:26:54 PM , Rating: 2
Some might interpret your posts as SPAM. You might want to leave off the link to your commercial web site when you post replies.


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