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ISP mistake cuts off YouTube, Pakistan from the internet

The world was cut off from YouTube and Pakistan was cut off from the world, due to a series of mistakes in handling Pakistan’s decree to block the popular video-sharing site.

It all started on Sunday, when Pakistani officials announced that the country will begin censoring YouTube, citing videos considered blasphemous to the country’s Islamic values.

According to Information Week, Pakistan’s ISPs were given immediate orders to block the popular video-sharing site. One such ISP, PieNet, blocked YouTube in such a way that requests to the site were routed to a webpage that they saw fit. Trouble set in afterwards, when the block was propagated to Hong Kong-based telecom provider PCCW. Technical errors caused PCCW’s changes to propagate throughout the entire world, sending the world’s YouTube requests to PieNet’s block page.

Details of what happened next are unclear, but it appears PCCW spotted the error and saw fit to cut off Pakistan’s internet access until it resolved the issue.

“The leadership of Pakistan just created a massive Denial of Service [attack] on their own country,” wrote blogger Richard Stiennon in ZDNet’s Threat Chaos.

According to YouTube parent Google, problems lasted for “about two hours.”

“Traffic to YouTube was routed according to erroneous internet protocols, and many users around the world could not access our site,” said Google in a statement, noting that it is “working with others in the internet community to prevent this from happening again.”

Speaking with the BBC, an unnamed networking expert thinks the blackout was “probably a simple mistake made by an engineer … there’s nothing to suggest this was malicious.”



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ALLAH FORBID!
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 7:26:54 PM , Rating: 5
That anyone in Pakistan accidentally see a woman on YouTube with her face uncovered ;)




RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By MFK on 2/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By Tacoloft on 2/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By jajig on 2/25/2008 8:42:46 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Fnoob is not funny because the situation is true


But Homer Simpson says things are funny when true!


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By Tacoloft on 2/25/2008 8:49:38 PM , Rating: 1
Touché


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By qwertyz on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By Tacoloft on 2/25/2008 8:27:55 PM , Rating: 5
I don't know. I think that Freedom of Speech is in and of itself Justice. I believe that everyone has the right to say and communicate what they want- regardless of religion, sex, race, ect... That is in fact the very beauty of Freedom. This extends to art as well. Now, do people have the right to be offended?-Sure. But they fail to realize that they do not have to browse to youtube. So in affect they are itching for a bitching when they search for offensive material and I say screw them-- youtube has the right to fold under pressure as I am sure they will because the world is turning into a bunch of offended pansies.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By eye smite on 2/25/2008 11:44:42 PM , Rating: 4
I just find it humurous that they created their own land mine, then stepped on it. lol

Seriously though, many countries don't share the same freedom or views on freedom that we do, so it's not much a surprise to me. Ah well, you win some you lose some.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By robinthakur on 2/26/2008 5:15:52 AM , Rating: 1
Oh GET A GRIP! I just drew a picture of the flying Spagghetti monster with a meatball on his head, should I be skewered to the ground for it or blown up? You can't just happen across the content you have to search for it; And this is ignoring the fact that...ITS A CARTOON. If it offends you that much then logic should step in and tell you that you're going crazy and to seek help. However when everybody around you has nothing better to do than to be outrageously offended because they don't have anything other than religious education and are jobless, it lends credence to this ignorance. Regardless, mass delusion (aka any religion) should never trump freedom of speech and it certainly doesn't in the west. Youtube should NOT back down on this, and if they do then this cartoon should be reproduced all over the internet until these people get so offended that they just implode (in the privacy of their own home) and do us all favour.

Not to even mention the fact that since not an inconsiderable number of Muslims think that blowing yourself up to kill innocent people in public places is perfectly acceptable what's wrong with him carrying the odd bomb or two in his turban? Surely it would be hypocritical not to?


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 8:28:32 PM , Rating: 5
Freedom of speech Vs justice

Islamic values forbid rational discussion of this subject.

Google 'teddybear/mohammed', as youTube may be down./


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By Tacoloft on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 8:43:20 PM , Rating: 3
Son of a man.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By MrTeal on 2/25/2008 8:32:39 PM , Rating: 5
I'm sorry, but if seeing a religious figure (not Allah mind you, just a man) drawn with a bomb on his head evokes the same level as disgust as watching your mother get raped, you have seriously misplaced values.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By jajig on 2/25/2008 8:38:37 PM , Rating: 1
I couldn't agree more.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By Tacoloft on 2/25/2008 9:00:57 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree with sfi786 on this one- just another thing that is a damn shame in the "offended" world, the all encompassing ace of spades beats all Race Card! (can I even say spade?)


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By tedrodai on 2/26/08, Rating: 0
RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By mmntech on 2/25/2008 8:50:28 PM , Rating: 3
I have to agree with the South Park point of view on the subject. *Muslims* are not allowed to show pictures of Mohammad. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from criticism. Freedom of speech however is inalienable. If Pakistan wants to block/shut down Youtube over that nonsense just further serves to justify their reputation and suspension from the Commonwealth. The country isn't exactly well known for their spotless human rights record.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By TomCorelis on 2/25/2008 8:37:19 PM , Rating: 2
One of the articles I linked to seems to think that the 'blasphemous' argument is just a red herring to deflect attention away from something else. Valleywag thinks its two specific videos; they were one of the blog's recent posts.

In either case, I chose not to elaborate so that you guys could figure out for yourself.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By flare99 on 2/26/2008 3:17:48 AM , Rating: 4
And I always thought that the journalists love go deep into the story and report it all instead of leaving it for the readers to figure out after all is said and done.


RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By shuninxuo on 2/26/2008 12:54:58 AM , Rating: 5
How can you call this justice?

Following the rules of Islam is a responsibility of Muslims. Not non Muslims. If Muslims are offended by certain things, it is their responsibility to avoid those things. It is not the rest of the world's responsibility to destroy our own freedoms to accommodate them.

Watching your mother get raped and creating an image of Mohamed are two very different things. One is violence against a close loved one. The other is a harmless image that one culture out of many finds offensive. There is no comparison.

To follow Islamic law in fear of offending them is not justice. It's self imposed oppression and damned stupid.

Generally when non Muslims are offended, they get angry. They try to pass laws to ban the offensive things. They boycott the offensive things.

When Muslims are offended, people die. (talking about modern times, not the past.) This should not be tolerated let alone accommodated.

For the rest of the world to reward this behavior by limiting our own freedoms is disgusting. That is offensive in the extreme.



RE: ALLAH FORBID!
By shuninxuo on 2/26/2008 1:00:29 AM , Rating: 2
(talking about modern times, not the past.)

was meant for non muslims generally taking peaceful actions against what they find offenive. Not Muslims reacting with violence to whatever offends them.

Whoops


Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Tacoloft on 2/25/2008 7:19:14 PM , Rating: 2
Is this the country where Bin Ladin is hiding?




RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Tacoloft on 2/25/2008 8:07:51 PM , Rating: 5
I stand corrected. Osama Bin Laden-- I would hate to confuse anyone who might mistake Bin Laden for another person hiding, like Fernando Bin Laden...


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By AraH on 2/26/2008 8:57:08 AM , Rating: 2
or one of his 50 siblings huh?... or one of the biggest contractors in Saudi Arabia with substantial presence in many other middle eastern countries?

stop automatically connecting 'bin laden' with Osama Bin Laden... consider this: his family has disowned him, his country has kicked him out.

and before you say i don't know jack, one of the bin laden group's headquarters are LITERALLY a stone's throw from me.

and no, i am not on Osama Bin Laden's side, i'm just annoyed by your smug tone.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Tacoloft on 2/26/2008 1:56:02 PM , Rating: 2
I again stand corrected. And to think that Osama could have tainted the Bin Laden name by waging holy war on the U.S...
Sorry, when I hear Bin Laden I hear terrorist- maybe because when I learned of the name Bin Laden it was around the time I was watching television feed of burning people jumping out of skyscrapers, buildings collapsing, and my country under attack. I am sorry that good people are associated with the Bin Laden name that happens to be associated with a murderer-- not my fault. But you think with all of the money made from contracting oil they could have taken care of thier own bad seed (Osama) before it sprouted???
Also, I am not very good at being smug. Just sharing my feelings...you have every right to be annoyed.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Spuke on 2/26/2008 3:24:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
and no, i am not on Osama Bin Laden's side, i'm just annoyed by your smug tone.
You know, I grew up with people that would get annoyed when I or others would substitute other words for the letters KKK. Klu Klux Klan may be correct but give their position of equal rights or just plain having the right breathe, I'd say they and others deserve whatever they get.

In other words, so freakin what if anyone uses bin Laden, Bin laden, Bone loaden or any other misspelling for "people" of their ilk.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Tacoloft on 2/25/2008 8:18:41 PM , Rating: 2
Also, how do you know for sure Osama Bin Laden is NOT in Pakistan? Do I believe you or president Bush? Hmmm that's a tough one.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Tacoloft on 2/25/2008 9:13:08 PM , Rating: 2
You are telling me that link is the holy grail/koran to all of the lies Bush has told? Do you mean to tell me that he always lies? hmmmm...
Also, you haven't told me how you know OBL is not in Pakistan.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Malhavoc on 2/26/2008 1:39:22 AM , Rating: 3
Osama knows if Osama is in Pakinstan.

Your argument is stomped!


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 8:40:19 PM , Rating: 2
No offense intended to Islam, sfi786 - but a state of perpetually pissed-off is a state of perpetually not playing nice with the other kids.

Hate and anger are the burden of the bearer. Let it go folks, there will always be infidels. Please, pretty please learn to cope.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By sfi786 on 2/25/2008 9:23:34 PM , Rating: 2
So...

if I point out something hateful done by the 'other side' then I am being hateful?

You don't work at Fox News by any chance?


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 9:36:22 PM , Rating: 3
You can point out instances of Fox News blowing up women and children?

Certainly the 'other side' (as we are to you) has done some serious damage - however, has it been hatefully targeted at innocent women and children?

'They' say that the suicide bombings in Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan have been attributed to a resistance to US forces/influence in the area. These suicide bombings, killings of the innocents we are sworn to protect - KEEP US THERE. Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop blowing people up. We will leave. It's just that simple. One way to envision a more peacefull world for your children to live in is to not strap on a suicide vest on the way to work.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By sfi786 on 2/25/08, Rating: -1
RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By SlyNine on 2/26/2008 5:39:21 AM , Rating: 2
The fact is they do blow up their own people to try and make us look bad, Not only that but they hide their own people in buildings that might be targeted. They are only interested in making the US look like the bad guy so they can take control for them selves.

The reason we stay in places like Iraq and afghan is because of the people that are trying to cease control, The idea that these people are trying to simply kick us out is absurd. If these people would stop using terror tactics to try and control the government there we would leave sooner rather then later.


RE: Freedom...to blow yourself up
By Spuke on 2/26/2008 3:33:49 PM , Rating: 2
sfi786 has some reading comprehension issues.


Clarifications about Islam
By UzairH on 2/26/2008 4:59:02 AM , Rating: 5
I am a practicing Muslim and I would like to reply to the snide attacks made here on the Muslims:

1. In lands where Islam is practiced today there are many, many tradations of old, which are practiced in the guise of religion. This is NOT true Islam, but machinations by those in power (men over women, dictators over the populace, mullahs over the populace) to _control_.

2. Classic Islam was a pluralistic society where scholars and professionals of other faiths were welcomed. Saladin's personal physician was a Jew. Hell, the Muslims tolerated and lived in peaceful coexistence with the Jews since its beginning, while it was always Christian Europe which had a problem with them.

3. Islam was the first religion to give women their full rights: inheritence, right to property ownership and business, right to divorce, even the right to vote. When did the US give its women suffrage?

There is nothing in Islam about a woman covering her face. It is a modern invention of the extremists, the pseudo-scholars. In the Koran women and men are _equal_ in the eyes of God, and there is nothing stopping women from going outside their homes, educating herself, or conducting business (as men do). But it is the explicit duty of the husband to provide for the wife, anything the wife earns is hers and hers alone to do with as she pleases.

4. The state of Islam as practices in countries like Saudi Arabia today has _nothing_ to do with the teachings of Islam. For starters, the very concept of monarchy and absolute power in the hands of a few is anathema to Islam.

5. As far as my country Pakistan is concerned, the people have spoken and the Islamist parties have been utterly routed; even in the supposedly fundamentalist north they have been badly defeated and the openly secular ANP and PPP have secured all the seats.

6. The stated reason for this blockage of youtube by the Pakistani government might be the 'blasphemous' videos posted there, but we know that it was in fact to stop us from seeing videos of blatant rigging conducted, sometimes under armed force, by the pro-Musharraf parties.

Ultimately the message of Islam is peace, anybody can read the Koran to see the instructions about jihad etc are only for self defence. I hope that people of the world, across all faiths (which includes atheists) recognize that we are all equal human beings. It was chance, pure luck that you were born a Christian or a Hindu or a Muslim or whatever. The question is, how do you choose to live your life? Speaking as a Muslim, what angers me the most is the corruption in our lands, and this is my responsibility to correct as best as I can.

Peace,
Uzair




RE: Clarifications about Islam
By sld on 2/26/2008 6:01:48 AM , Rating: 3
There are a few corrections I will like to draw your kind attention to:

1) In your post, you mentioned Christian Europe. In this year of 2008, there is no longer 'Christian USA'. Most of USA worship consumerism, Darwin, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or superior aliens in space which haven't made contact with them yet.

2) Most of the posters here making snide remarks against Islam are NOT Christians. They are atheists and proud of it, just as you are proud of being a Muslim.

In a big way, you are preaching to the choir. If anything religious pops up here, the same crowd will be ready to piss on it.

Just ignore those comments, surely there are more sensible things to read on a good tech site like Dailytech.


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By tedrodai on 2/26/2008 11:33:36 AM , Rating: 2
He made no mention that it was Christian posters that were bashing Islam--the only semi-negative remark regarding Christians was "it was always Christian Europe which had a problem with them". And let's face it: Christian Europe has in the past been in states of corruption at LEAST as bad, if not worse, as many of the Muslim-governments in the middle east today. Therein, he was speaking historically rather than trying to stir up anything about the argument being 'Christain vs. Muslim'. You're reading into the post a bit too much.

It is good to know that the Christian crowd (I assume that's who you're speaking for) is above making such insensible comments. --Except for one or two rats that slipped through the cracks.


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By robinthakur on 2/26/2008 8:22:35 AM , Rating: 4
Uzair you speak very correctly and knowedgeably, however I don't think even you as an individual could claim to speak for all muslims. Its unfortunate that fundamentalists scream louder than moderates ever do and that the things which Islam is most known for (in the UK at least) are the London bombings, the 9/11 attacks, the Taliban's enslavement of and abuse of women and that Saudi woman who was publicly lashed for being gang-raped. Oh and the Teddy incident, Hateful firebrand preachers, homophobia, the international rampage of violence trouble caused by that cartoon and people walking around with Niqwabs and Burkhas(spelling?)on. This is off the top of my head here...its not a 'snide attack' but a statement of truth.

Until far more positive and moderate views of Islam emerge from hiding, this does far more damage to Islam than anything on Dailytech.

Regarding
quote:
It was chance, pure luck that you were born a Christian or a Hindu or a Muslim or whatever.

Actually all people are born free of the contagion of religious indoctrination. It is only what they absorb through their environment, parents, teachers etc which turns them into Scientologists, Evangelical Christians and Muslims. There is possibly a bigger number still who choose not to subscribe to any of these *beliefs*, and are GREATLY better off because of it because they get on with their lives.


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By rykerabel on 2/26/2008 9:58:25 AM , Rating: 2
I feel for you.

We have the same problem with fundamental Christians.

picketing American Soldier's funurals, bombing abortion clinics, heck, even burning other denominations churches.

The hardcore freedom of relegion stance in the US is the only thing keeping the fundamental Christians from making the same mess the fundamental Muslims make in the middle east.

(bombing abortion clinics is still terrorism)


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By rcc on 2/26/2008 1:39:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It was chance, pure luck that you were born a Christian or a Hindu or a Muslim or whatever


Perhaps this is a fundamental misunderstanding, but here in the US, and in most of the "Western" countries that I've been to, you aren't born to a religion; you are trained to it. Usually by your parents, family and society. But after a certain age, it's a choice. My mother was Presbyterian, my Father was Mormon, I'm an individual that believes my relationship with God is between him and me and is no one else's business. But I respect their beliefs, and yours, and am not going to waste your time and mine trying to shove my beliefs down your (or anyone's) throat.

Thats probably just a windy way of saying most of us really don't care what religion a person is, as long as they aren't trying to blow us up, or preach to us.


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By Tacoloft on 2/26/2008 2:18:20 PM , Rating: 2
UzairH,
Thanks for your post. I just hope that everything you say will become more prevalent in the Muslim culture and throughout the U.S. I have no qualms with any religion that promotes peace and equality and freedom. I have made no snide comments directed towards the Muslim religion practiced peacefully but to terrorists that "assume" to be practitioners of the Muslim religion and give it a bad reputation. It's a shame that peaceful Muslims have to put up with terrorists that assume the Muslim name as I am sure there are hurtful things said and misunderstandings. But it also emphasizes that the cleanup and clarification has to start and end with the Muslim community.
Have you seen the movie Kingdom of Heaven?


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By ShadowZERO on 2/26/2008 2:45:33 PM , Rating: 2
"...while it was always Christian Europe which had a problem with them."
"anybody can read the Koran to see the instructions about jihad etc are only for self defence."

So basically, any Muslim can justify "Jihad" against Christianity as "self-defense" against what happened in the Crusades? Sort of how Bush justified the invasion of Iraq as "self-defense"?

I'm going to become a Muslim, and start slaughtering Christians everywhere I see them. When I'm arrested, I'll claim I gave my life to Allah and that he told me to.

"Officer, its was SELF-DEFENSE!!! Haven't you ever heard of the Crusades???"


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By Spuke on 2/26/2008 3:49:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Sort of how Bush justified the invasion of Iraq as "self-defense"?
He used WMD's as the reason for the invasion. Nevermind that, US presidents can't nor do they have the power to declare war. Congress declares war and basically hands the operation over to the president. I always find it odd that people blame the president but not Congress. They are both to blame. And indirectly, we, as citizens, are to blame too.


RE: Clarifications about Islam
By Spuke on 2/26/2008 3:50:26 PM , Rating: 2
Here's a funny, two of the people that declared war are running for president.


Hilarity Ensues
By DASQ on 2/25/2008 6:38:20 PM , Rating: 5
Network admin blunders on a world scale!

I do like how they just toggled Pakistan off.




RE: Hilarity Ensues
By Xerio on 2/25/2008 6:49:04 PM , Rating: 1
HOLY CRAP! Who knew it would be so easy to kill YouTube, even for just a little while?


RE: Hilarity Ensues
By fk49 on 2/25/2008 10:07:26 PM , Rating: 4
I mean you know the internet is just a series of Tubes right?


RE: Hilarity Ensues
By T4RTER S4UCE on 2/26/2008 6:46:11 PM , Rating: 2
Ted Stevens is a fool,
the internet is obviously a truck.


RE: Hilarity Ensues
By Samus on 2/25/2008 7:01:47 PM , Rating: 5
I think it's funny that YouTube won't cooperate with Pakistan (and many other country's) and remove material that is blasphemous to their religion...and at the same time YouTube is so forward to cooperate with the 'Scientologists' and remove everything from Tom Cruise's rampage to South Park cut-scenes they feel is blasphemous to them.

How is a whole country powerless when a tiny, virtually undocumented religion reigns supreme?


RE: Hilarity Ensues
By OblivionMage on 2/25/2008 7:10:18 PM , Rating: 3
Freedom of speech is one thing, the video's considered 'blasphemous' are not against the TOS and so why should they be removed?

The video of Tom Cruise was considered to be copyrighted (And Scientology has a *crap* load of lawyers who call it other things), and South Park cut-scenes are also copyrighted.

Scientology is not powerless, and how was Pakistan rendered helpless? They can block youtube if they want, but why should youtube conform to their countries specific views? Hell, if every website had to follow every country/religions views, there would not be much of an internet left.


RE: Hilarity Ensues
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 7:30:33 PM , Rating: 5
Hell, if every website had to follow every country/religions views, there would not be much of an internet left.

As the last remaining file, 'Pong' will be removed due to it's blatant black and white separationism.


lol
By voodooboy on 2/25/2008 9:57:49 PM , Rating: 2
Funny picture...:p




RE: lol
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 10:10:44 PM , Rating: 2
It's all fun and good until you realise they are chanting "Death to (you)".


RE: lol
By sfi786 on 2/25/2008 10:15:56 PM , Rating: 1
You can hear through a picture?????

I envoy u.


RE: lol
By ziggo on 2/25/2008 10:51:35 PM , Rating: 2
en·voy 1 (nvoi, n-)
n.

1. A representative of a government who is sent on a special diplomatic mission.
2. A minister plenipotentiary assigned to a foreign embassy, ranking next below the ambassador.
3. A messenger; an agent.

en·vy (nv)
n. pl. en·vies
1.
a. A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
b. The object of such feeling: Their new pool made them the envy of their neighbors.


RE: lol
By SlyNine on 2/26/2008 5:43:59 AM , Rating: 2
Just got cought by the Diction Police. I say give him the chair.


RE: lol
By nbachman on 2/26/2008 12:24:44 PM , Rating: 2
Just cut off his hands so he cannot do it again.


RE: lol
By robinthakur on 2/26/2008 8:24:01 AM , Rating: 2
Or that hi pitched

LALALALALALALALALALALALA :)


RE: lol
By robinthakur on 2/26/2008 8:24:02 AM , Rating: 2
Or that hi pitched

LALALALALALALALALALALALA :)


The entire site was not down...
By daBKLYNdoorman on 2/25/2008 7:18:35 PM , Rating: 2
I was trying to access this video on YouTube in the evening hours when this happened.

The entire site was not down. The ability to search for videos and watch them was the only thing that was frozen.




RE: The entire site was not down...
By InternetGeek on 2/25/2008 7:30:14 PM , Rating: 5
What else do you do on youtube?


RE: The entire site was not down...
By Fnoob on 2/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: The entire site was not down...
By Fnoob on 2/25/2008 8:34:20 PM , Rating: 1
Retraction : omit Pakistani's and insert 'shortbus-jihadists'. -ed


By thestain on 2/25/2008 9:04:17 PM , Rating: 1
I was setting up a PC for my folks and they thought it was all my fault when we could not get YouTube.. nice to know now after all the arguments and name calling it was the Talibans fault.

Three things come to mind..

1) While Google should be sensitive to needs of various regions, the world wide web really needs to be just that. Either people come onboard for the WWW or they stay off line and not have their government or e-policies mess with the rest of us, ok!!

2) Google needs to get away from other requirements, like Flash player to view their videos.. alternatives would be welcome. Does anyone know of any that work for YouTube?

3) It would be nice to see Google improve search engine.. that is their bread and butter and it has imo went downhill in an effort to be politically or world view or religiously correct.. let us search for anything with the most relevant results shown first again, rather than what is now taking place where it appears we are shielded for whatever reason from some very good results..

Lets get this WWW(World Wide Web) going strong and.. however YouTube got sunk by the Taliban... lets make sure this does not happen again.

The Stain




By Darkskypoet on 2/25/2008 9:28:02 PM , Rating: 3
It's called Google Experimental Timeline view :)

try this:

http://www.google.com/views?q=taliban+view:timelin...

A Taliban search via time line view. Or simply search Google Experimental to see just how they are playing with search. Via the time line view you can set a date filter more easily, or hell, I suppose you could simply specify dates / use google news search, or many other ways of filtering the hundreds of thousands of results one can get through Google.

Oft-times I find that it is not Google's fault you can't find something... Its usually the user. (usually, not always).


By thestain on 2/26/2008 3:20:45 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks!

I have so far just used the default search and noticed over the past couple years my results of searches were not quite what i used to get. I will give the experimental a try.


By rykerabel on 2/26/2008 10:01:05 AM , Rating: 2
Flash used to work... until the anti-MS company entitled Adobe bought it and sabotaged the Windows versions. (flash still works great on Macs amazingly)


internet
By xiv on 2/27/2008 11:06:38 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder how it felt for those who were being serviced/outsourcing to pakistan?

other dell and microsoft sites must have overheated due to the overload.




BAN PAKISTAN!!!
By androticus on 2/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: BAN PAKISTAN!!!
By DASQ on 2/26/2008 12:31:26 PM , Rating: 1
Apparently, the comment system does not need you.


By flare99 on 2/26/2008 3:15:27 AM , Rating: 1
It amazes me how ill-informed everyone is. I never thought Dailytech would put a story with religious twist and a provoking picture to make it more scandalous. I always respected this site for it's higher reporting ethics.

What no one actually realized was the government's real intention and how it used Islam as an excuse. But the Paksitani public already realized the bluff and no one bought it except for the ill-informed international audience.

Putting that aside, what's even more surprizing is reading what image everyone has of Pakistan and Islam in general. For me the Islamophobic freaks are just as disgustful as the hate mongering lunatic suicide bombers. Neither of them really know what they are talking about or dealing with and follow the media/leader with blind faith.




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