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Model numbers for Intel's upcoming mobile chips leaked

Intel shows no signs of slowing down when it comes to its mobile processors. Intel's Core-based architecture has being doing remarkably well in the marketplace with Celeron-M, Pentium Dual Core, Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme processors covering the vast spectrum between budget and high-end notebooks.

Intel will up the ante again on January 6, 2008 with its new 45nm Penryn-based Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme dual core processors.

It's highly plausible that the chips could make their first appearance at CES 2008 (January 7, 2008) with further unveils at MacWorld 2008 in Apple’s oft-rumored tablet, revamped MacBook Pros or refreshed iMac desktops.

Apple's current MacBook Pro makes use of the Core 2 Duo T7500, T7700 and T7800 65nm Merom processors which will be phased out in favor of the new T8300, T9300 and T9500. Likewise, the current iMac uses Core 2 Duo T7250, T7700 and Core 2 Extreme X7900 processors which are being replaced by the T8100, T9300 and X9000.

Penryn Notebook Launch Processors
Model
Core
Frequency
TDP
L2 Cache
Launch Price
X9000 2.8 GHz 44W 6MB
$851
T9500 2.6 GHz 35W 6MB
$530
T9300
2.5 GHz 35W 6MB
$316
T8300 2.4 GHz 35W 3MB
$241
T8100
2.1 GHz 35W 3MB
$209

Apple isn't the only company that stands to benefit from the new Penryn-based notebook chips -- expect a slew of announcement from PC manufacturers on new or revamped notebooks features the faster, cooler-running processors.

Initial Penryn mobile processors will launch exclusively with a 35W thermal envelope.  Existing Merom mobile processors (T7000-series) also fit inside the 35W envelope at standard voltage.  However, with the Montevina Centrino refresh in the second half of 2008, new Penryn mobile processors will receive a 25W TDP rating instead. 

Looking further into the future, Q3 will see the addition of another group of 45nm Penryn-based processors using Intel's Montevina platform. These processors will feature 6MB of L2 cache in Core 2 Duo form and 12MB of cache for Core 2 Extreme models -- both will feature 1066MHz FSBs along with support for DDR3 memory.



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Merom TDPs?
By Mr Perfect on 12/4/2007 1:37:19 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone have a similar list of TDPs for the T7000 Meroms with the 800MHz FSB? I'm wondering how much cooler these will run compared to their 65nm counterparts, but Intel's site doesn't have it on the comparison chart. http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/s...
I guess TDP isn't a feature...




RE: Merom TDPs?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 12/4/2007 1:41:37 PM , Rating: 1
The T7100 through T9500 Merom TDP is 35W. 2.13 GHz Penryn through 2.5 GHz Penryn mobile is 25W, the rest are 35W.


RE: Merom TDPs?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 12/4/2007 1:56:30 PM , Rating: 2
Er, just to clarify that. The second refresh of Penryn will be the 25W parts -- the launch parts are all still 35W.


RE: Merom TDPs?
By Mr Perfect on 12/4/2007 2:07:11 PM , Rating: 2
Great, thank you. I was wondering if the chart was off, but that makes more sense.

I notice you mention 2.13GHz as being the lowest speed, does that mean that Penryn mobiles won't be offered any lower? It would be great if the laptop OEMs can't stick you for $300 just to bump the default configuration from 1.4GHz to 2GHz+ anymore!


RE: Merom TDPs?
By crystal clear on 12/5/2007 5:17:18 AM , Rating: 2
An Intel clarification-

Intel's comment: "The TDP is a specification that is primarily of interest to system builders (OEMs). It allows the OEM to design a system that can handle the heat generated by the processor based on this value. The unchanged TDP rating simplifies the process of designing and building new systems. To the end user, the value that is more interesting is power consumption on a system level, i.e., how much power the entire PC, server or laptop consumes."



RE: Merom TDPs?
By crystal clear on 12/5/2007 5:43:35 AM , Rating: 2
Further-

• Deep Power Down for Energy Savings, Improved Battery Life -- The mobile Penryn processor has a new advanced power management state called Deep Power Down Technology that significantly reduces the power of the processor during idle periods such that internal transistor power leakage is no longer a factor. This helps extend battery life in laptops. This is a major advancement over previous generation industry leading Intel mobile processors.

• Intel Dynamic Acceleration Technology Enhanced Performance for Single Threaded Apps -- For the mobile Penryn processor, Intel has enhanced the Intel® Dynamic Acceleration Technology available in current Intel Core 2 processors. This feature uses the power headroom freed up when a core is made inactive to boost the performance of another still active core. Imagine a shower with two powerful water shower heads, when one shower head is turned off, the other has increased water pressure (performance).

• Speeding Up Video, Photo Imaging, and High Performance Software -- Penryn includes Intel® Streaming SIMD Extensions 4 (SSE4) instructions, the largest unique instruction set addition since the original SSE Instruction Set Architecture (ISA). This extends the Intel® 64 instruction set architecture to expand the performance and capabilities of the Intel® Architecture.


http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/In...


By vtohthree on 12/5/2007 5:29:42 AM , Rating: 2
I anticipated the release of the Penryn mobile counterpart for it's lower TDP(earlier stated to be 29watts). But now there seems to be little motivation to upgrade to this part.

Both merom and penryn are at 35watts, yes penryn might be 1-5% more faster per IPC, but that's hardly an upgrade, if these were in fact no more than 30watts, then I'd deem it a worthy upgrade since you would see real life battery performance gains.

They finally release 45nm for the mobile sector and they don't even cut heat or electricity(perse). I suppose I will have to wait for montevina before retiring my dothan.




By coldpower27 on 12/5/2007 11:29:57 PM , Rating: 2
I guess there isn't an need as AMD just isn't all that competitive in the mobile sector to begin with. This simply allows them higher margins as the die size is smaller as well as speed upgrades for the lower range SKU's.

2.5 GHZ/6MB replaces the 2.4GHz/4MB
2.4 GHZ/3MB replaces the 2.2GHz/4MB
2.1 GHZ/3MB replaces the 2.0GHZ/2MB


By vignyan on 12/6/2007 8:40:05 AM , Rating: 2
Hmm... TDP is a grossly misunderstood stuff... Thermal design power is a guidance... Its not how much battery the chip consumes... if that were the case, most of the 53 Wt-hr batteries will be drained out in about 1.5 hrs with merom. instead of lasting for over 3.5 hrs.

Its just the max power that the cooling system needs to take care of...

Change of TDP affects the cooling system design... So its a better thing for OEMs that TDP does not change... lesser time to market...


Penryn Desktop Roll-out & Prices?
By eilersr on 12/4/2007 1:01:06 PM , Rating: 2
Is there a handy link for desktop Penryn roll-out schedule and price points? Something more specific than just "more desktop Penryn's in Q108"

I'm itching to upgrade here, but don't know what to look forward to :P




By retrospooty on 12/4/2007 1:33:20 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.hkepc.com/?id=171

scroll down about 1 page.


Quad Core?
By theflux on 12/4/2007 1:23:21 PM , Rating: 2
When can we expect the officially sanctioned quad core piece?




RE: Quad Core?
By melgross on 12/4/2007 4:37:58 PM , Rating: 2
Supposedly, once Nehalem comes out second half sometime.


TDP for Merom?
By Hulk on 12/4/2007 1:37:12 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone remember off-hand the TCP for a 2GHz Merom chip?

I'm wondering how Merom and Penryn TDP's compare.




RE: TDP for Merom?
By TomZ on 12/4/2007 4:21:29 PM , Rating: 2
Merom is 35 watts TDP for standard versions and 5 watts TDP for Ultra Low Voltage (ULV) versions.


Minor correction
By webdawg77 on 12/4/2007 1:02:13 PM , Rating: 2
Table title

"Penryn Core 2 Etreme, Duo - 800 MHz FSB"

Should be Extreme unless Intel is coming up with another adjective for their CPUs :).




Initial rough benchmarks
By crystal clear on 12/5/2007 5:05:28 AM , Rating: 2
Some benchmarks for the X9000-use google translation to read in English.
Not very accurate translation but you can manage to get around with it.

Penryn X9000???????????

http://www.coolaler.com/content/node/1785




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