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While its hardware support for Vista continues, Intel will not adopt Vista at its facilities, according to reports; Microsoft extends XP support to 2014

Intel, the world's largest microprocessor manufacturer, has stuck with operating system maker Microsoft through good times and bad.  The pair have worked closely together one every modern Windows release and have even shared some common unpleasant experiences -- like being subjected to Federal Trade Commission investigations.

However, times have changed and suddenly, according to inside reports Intel has shockingly snubbed Microsoft's flagship product, Windows Vista.  Intel, which has over 80,000 employees with workstations, will not change its computers over to Vista.  This marks the first time that Intel would have bypassed a major Windows generation, if the reports from the key inside source hold true.

While Intel's acceptance or rejection may be a largely symbolic blow, it is part of a far broader trend of companies refusing to adopt Windows Vista, discussed previously here at DailyTech.  While consumer adoption has languished slightly due to some complaints about compatibility, features, and resource consumption, these problems are exponentially greater in the business world, which operates largely on somewhat antiquated hardware.

A lengthy analysis by Intel's internal technology of the costs versus benefits of Vista adoption led to the decision.  According to the insider, who request anonymity due to possible damage to Microsoft and Intel's relationship, the conclusion drawn was that the cost of expensive hardware upgrades to cope with what some call Vista's "bloat" or high memory, CPU, and graphics demands would simply be too costly for the small benefits provided.

Said the insider, "This isn’t a matter of dissing Microsoft, but Intel information technology staff just found no compelling case for adopting Vista."

An Intel spokesman did not acknowledge the reports, but refused to directly deny them either.  He said Vista was seeing very limited deployment within certain company groups, but as a whole was not currently being adopted.

So much for "Wintel" said some.  The term was coined in the early days of the PC industry, and since both Windows and Intel have been nearly synonymous with the personal computer.

Word of the rift first broke on the sardonic British tech news site The Inquirer and has since been covered by major news outlets, including the New York Times.

The Times points out aptly that Intel may change its mind at some point.  Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, regularly meets with Paul Otellini, Intel’s chief executive, and Ballmer is known both for being a good salesman and for his penchant for forceful aggression.

David Smith, a Gartner analyst, says Intel and other company's rejection of Vista is not wholly abnormal -- there is a typical waiting period before next-gen OS adoption.  However, Vista, he says has almost passed that period and is troublingly receiving little support.  He states, "But by 18 months, you’d expect to see a significant uptake, and we haven’t seen that.  There’s not much excitement."

In an average generation, according to Gartner, 30 percent of customers skip the OS.  That number will be much higher for Vista, according to Gartner.  Gartner is also advising its only clients against Vista adoption.

With 140 million Vista copies worldwide, the OS is by no means a failure.  However it’s failed to renew the enthusiasm engendered by Windows XP.

Windows XP will be discontinued at the end of the month, though its popularity remains.  PC makers are capitalizing on strong sales through loopholes and will continue to sell XP systems after, but likely at a markup.

Microsoft has responded to the strong demand by extending the XP Home and Media Center support lifespan by 5 years.  Until now the scheduled cutoff date was January 2009.  The extension will last till May 2014.  The extension means that Microsoft will continue to deliver non-security upgrades for 5 more years. XP Pro had already received a similar extension.

Some see the move as an acknowledgement of Vista’s struggles.  Microsoft gave no official explanation for its decision to extend support.

Microsoft hopes to regain is vigor with the release of Windows 7, which is slated to go on sale around holiday season 2009.  In the meantime it is left to lick its wounds, particularly the most recent painful one in the form of a snub from a trusted friend.



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So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By Pirks on 6/26/2008 3:12:00 PM , Rating: 3
People say XP was all the same, however there are also statements like "business adoption rate was much faster for XP than for Vista".

Was it exactly the same with XP?

Anyone with reliable numbers/statistics?
Maybe some links too?




By Kyanzes on 6/26/2008 3:43:10 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft surely forseen this. They had to be aware that they wouldn't be able to achieve similar success as they have with the Win9x->W2K transition. Maybe if they never implemented multicore support in XP (talking about multi core not multi CPU).The only seriously exploitable change in sight that seems significant enough (and I know about) that would have provided a perfect opportunity for Microsoft to release a new OS is the mass transition to multicore.
A much lesser one is ofc DX10. But frankly I don't see many people I know taking the bait.


RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By Screwballl on 6/26/2008 3:52:13 PM , Rating: 4
Being a tech in the field (sorry no links or numbers) since XP was simply a kernel update over 2000, it was much easier to switch to XP on the commercial and corporate level so the software still worked in most cases.
Win2000 was NT kernel 5.0 and XP is 5.1
XP SP3 is more like Win2000 SP8
Vista is a brand new kernel version 6.0 and Windows Vienna/7 will be kernel version 7.

Using the same line of reasoning, Windows 7 will also have a slow commercial/corporate adoption rate since it will also have a new kernel. Although if they have built in Virtualization, there should be a way to get an XP based application to work properly... that is if they do it right with the modular approach in W7.


By Spivonious on 6/26/2008 4:08:48 PM , Rating: 5
Although from all accounts it seems Windows "7" is more of an update to Vista, so wouldn't it be 6.1? I'm curious what the official version is. Any MS employees posting here to shed some light?


By pauldovi on 6/26/2008 4:18:05 PM , Rating: 2
Windows 7 uses NT6.


RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By BikeDude on 6/26/2008 4:22:03 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, come on... What software still doesn't work with Vista?

At least the old debate concerning Win95 has died. The industry used to be worried about all those businesses that refused to upgrade to Windows 2000 (and later XP), because they were perfectly "fine" with Win9x.

Vista adoption isn't as important as getting people off Win9x/ME (or Win 3.x).


By headbox on 6/26/2008 4:43:37 PM , Rating: 4
The audio/video/3D field has been very slow to adopt Vista. Hardware drivers for a lot of pro gear is still in the "beta" stage. Most of the entertainment industry uses Macs anyways, but those who use PCs are on XP or Linux.


By VooDooAddict on 6/26/2008 4:51:18 PM , Rating: 3
Try working with international subsidiaries in "emerging markets" and you'll see that the fight to get Win9x off biz machines is still going strong.


RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By CyborgTMT on 6/26/2008 5:21:13 PM , Rating: 2
Just for some reference, I work for a company that has over 30K locations around the world with more than $20B in revenue per year. All of our point of sales terminals are run on DOS based software and each location's administration systems are all running win98. The central and regional offices are on a mix of XP, win98, and linux.
It's hard enough to keep the systems communicating properly as it is. Vista will never be implemented outside of some corporate suit's personal pc.


By EricMartello on 6/26/2008 5:41:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
All of our point of sales terminals are run on DOS based software and each location's administration systems are all running win98. The central and regional offices are on a mix of XP, win98, and linux.


Your company revels in obsoleteness. :O


RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By mindless1 on 6/26/2008 8:35:01 PM , Rating: 5
Basic common sense - change things when it's needed, not just on a whim.


By The0ne on 7/1/2008 10:26:19 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think he even understands. I don't think he understands why a desk clerk still hangs on to her old typewriter or city councils relying on old voting systems. Oh well.


RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By Parhel on 6/26/08, Rating: -1
RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By CyborgTMT on 6/26/2008 6:51:57 PM , Rating: 4
When I'm debugging network conflicts, reloading the system software, and configuring the terminals for the different locations I think I know that we're using MS-DOS based dummy terminals.


RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By CyborgTMT on 6/26/2008 7:06:27 PM , Rating: 2
I do want to note that my previous employment was in the automobile industry where we were using a horrible UNIX based system. Windows software circa 1999 is a vast improvement from my stand point.


RE: So is Vista's adoption rate similar to XP's?
By rtk on 6/27/2008 1:16:20 AM , Rating: 2
FAR more you were looking at a mainframe through a terminal, most likely an as400.


By The0ne on 7/1/2008 10:29:30 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, I believe so. Large companies I've worked for in the past are still using these for their product data management. Some have a mix of old and new but the core is usually AS400 variant.