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Single core Pineview chip

Dual core Pineview chip
Available January 4th

Netbooks have been one of the biggest technology stories over the last couple of years. The concept is simple: build a lightweight, compact, and affordable mobile computer that is just powerful enough to check for email and surf the internet. Intel enabled the explosion of the netbook market with its low-voltage Atom processors and currently holds a dominant position in this rapidly growing segment.

Although current Atom processors consume very little power, their supporting chipsets do not.
For example, while the Atom N270 processor has a 2.5W TDP (Thermal Design Power), the 945GSE chipset and 82801GBM (ICH7M) I/O controller it is usually paired up with is rated for 9.3W. Intel currently builds Atom processors on a 45nm process, but the chipset itself is built on a much older 90nm process.

To address this issue, Intel has been working on a next-generation Atom chip codenamed Pineview. The new chip integrates the DDR2 memory controller and graphics processor on the CPU die. Not only this this reduce power consumption, it also dramatically lowers production costs by reducing the number of chips needed.
Further cost savings are achievable by using four-layer Printed Circuit Boards, since the new chips require less complicated routing. It is expected that these savings will be passed on to consumers.

Intel is citing a 20% reduction in average power consumption and 60% smaller package size as enabling new smaller and thinner netbook form factors. The company recommends that its Atom CPUs only be used in mobile computers with a maximum screen size of 10.2 inches. Notebooks larger than that should be equipped with an Ultra-Low Voltage CPU instead.

Pineview chips are designed to be used with the NM10 Express Chipset to form the Pine Trail platform. The NM10 chip supports eight USB 2.0 ports, two 3Gbps SATA ports, two 32-bit PCIe slots, four PCIe lanes, and Intel's HD Audio.

Intel has announced three new Pineview chips: D510, D410, and N450. The D series chips are designed for net-tops (entry-level desktop PCs), while N series chips are designated for netbooks.  The D510 is a dual core CPU with 1MB of L2 cache and a 15W total TDP (including chipset), while the D410 is a single-core CPU with 512KB of L2 cache and a 12-watt total TDP (including chipset).

The N450 is also a single-core CPU with 512KB of L2 cache, but features a total system TDP of 7W with the chipset. All three chips are clocked at 1.66GHz. Pricing will be announced on January 4th as Pine Trail becomes available in computers from OEMs including ASUS, Acer, Dell, Toshiba, Fujitsu, Lenovo, Samsung and MSI.

“The Intel Atom processor has fueled an entirely new category of computing over the last year and a half and we think the growth will continue for devices like netbooks and entry-level PCs built around basic computing and Internet usage models,” said Mooly Eden, Intel's  Corporate Vice President and the General Manager of Intel's PC Client Group.
“We're excited to be delivering the next-generation Atom platform and working across the industry as we head into a second phase of growth, powering innovative new system designs with better performance, smaller footprints and better battery life,"  

Intel will also be launching its new 32nm Clarkdale and Arrandale CPUs within the next few weeks. Both chips integrate a DDR3 memory controller and GPU on the packaging, although those portions are being built on a 45nm process. Mass production has started at Intel's D1C and D1D fabs in Hillsboro, Oregon.

Atom CPUs will begin the transition to the 32nm node in late 2010, but might not make it to market until early 2011. Intel hopes to have Atom chips available sooner with the 22nm generation, with a targeted launch in early 2012.

Processor Clock Speed Cores / Threads L2 Cache Memory TDP
Intel Atom D510 1.66GHz 2 / 4 1MB DDR2-800 (4GB max) 13W
Intel Atom D410 1.66GHz 1 / 2 512KB DDR2-800 (4GB max) 10W
Intel Atom N450 1.66GHz 1 / 2 512KB DDR2-667 (2GB max) 5.5W


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Just wait for Arrandale ULV...
By therealnickdanger on 12/21/2009 10:27:19 AM , Rating: 5
18W for real CPU power plus the ability to play games at/above NVIDIA 9300/ATI 4200 levels plus dual 1080p video decoding and lossless audio bit-streaming... all on the CPU.

The new Atom is great, but the integrated graphics chip completely nerfs all its potential. What good is a netbook when it can't even play full-screen Youtube videos?

RE: Just wait for Arrandale ULV...
By omnicronx on 12/21/09, Rating: 0
RE: Just wait for Arrandale ULV...
By therealnickdanger on 12/21/2009 1:46:49 PM , Rating: 3
I don't know what benchmarks you've seen, but these are some of the tests I've seen from what looks like the 2.8GHz Clarkdale (desktop version of chip, so obviously more wattage, but still...):

Resident Evil 5 (1920x1080):
Intel GMA (Pentium GS6950) - 19.2 FPS
Nvidia GeForce G210 - 13.4
ATI Radeon 4350 - 13.4

World in Conflict:
Intel - 37
Nvidia - 31
ATI - 30

Intel - 29
Nvidia - 28
ATI - 25

I've also seen benchmarks around 60fps for L4D and COD:MW2... I think Intel may have done it right this time. I can't wait for Anand to get some samples!

RE: Just wait for Arrandale ULV...
By omnicronx on 12/21/2009 5:50:10 PM , Rating: 2
You can't compare a desktop variant clocked at 4GHZ with DDR3 RAM clocked at 1600MHZ with of course the FSB also overclocked to boost IGP performance. While the stock chip maybe 2.8GHZ, thats not what they are running it at during the bench.

Thats about 2x the speed in clock alone higher than the mobile variant, and this doesnt take into account all the other bottlenecks that had been removed such as RAM speed and FSB clock.

The IGP on the mobile variants will also be clocked much lower (133mhz to 500mhz when overclocked). I'm pretty sure the one they tested starts at 533mhz and overclocks much higher.

This is why you never compare desktop to mobile variants, they will never stack up..

RE: Just wait for Arrandale ULV...
By omnicronx on 12/21/2009 6:01:29 PM , Rating: 2
To follow up I can confirm the ULV versions IGP will be clocked at 166mhz.. nowhere near the desktop variant.

Odd product availability cycle
By Lord 666 on 12/21/2009 9:43:13 AM , Rating: 2
Along with the 32nm refresh, why release Pineview after the holiday shopping cycle? Is it because of excess inventory of the older parts? Still doesn't make sense because they have had plenty of time to par down inventories.

RE: Odd product availability cycle
By smilingcrow on 12/21/2009 4:28:19 PM , Rating: 2
Well there's zero competition so no hurry to release a new product.

RE: Odd product availability cycle
By SPOOFE on 12/21/2009 5:09:27 PM , Rating: 2
An aggressive update schedule will help keep direct competitors from catching up. Rest on your laurels and that gives someone else an opportunity.

By Bateluer on 12/21/2009 10:37:26 AM , Rating: 2
I wasn't expecting a stellar performance improvement, but getting more than 5% would have been nice.

Any reliable benchmarks of the Celeron SU3200 found in a few 11.6in netbooks?

RE: Disappointing
By VitalyTheUnknown on 12/21/2009 12:16:22 PM , Rating: 2
I think you are talking about Celeron® SU2300

CPU Mark:
Intel SU2300 @ 1.20GHz - 931
Intel Atom N270 @ 1.60GHz - 304
Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 @ 2.1GHz - 1422

RE: Disappointing
By Bateluer on 12/21/2009 1:53:20 PM , Rating: 2
Much better than the N270 and N450 Atoms. The Acer and Gateway netbooks using it are around 430 for an 1.6in, 720p screen with 2GB of DDR2 RAM and Win7 HP.

By DrApop on 12/21/2009 10:45:35 AM , Rating: 2
AMD really has missed the boat on this one. they hav nothing at all that competes in this area.

They have tried in the slim line area with a centrino type competitor....Dragon or Snake or whatever they called it last Jan at CES but then it never seems to materialize. Then this fall they threw something else out with another name on it if I remember correctly.

I say take an old pre-barton processor that was made at 130 nm, make on the 45 nm platform and put two on a chip at 1.8 ghz...there ya go. a perfect netbook processor.

By Bateluer on 12/21/2009 11:26:12 AM , Rating: 2
Won't work. There's a lot of engineering with die shrinks, and taking the Barton core from 130nm, to 90nm, to 65nm, to 45nm would be a major challenge.

AMD hasn't had any decent mobile platform in a long time. Right now, their 'netbook' CPUs are basically downclocked A64 cores with some of their cache disabled/removed. Their model number system makes no sense either.

Of course they will say that
By mattclary on 12/21/2009 12:24:01 PM , Rating: 2
The company recommends that its Atom CPUs only be used in mobile computers with a maximum screen size of 10.2 inches. Notebooks larger than that should be equipped with an Ultra-Low Voltage CPU instead.

Wouldn't want to chance cannibalizing higher profit sales.

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