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Intel's goes after the high-end gamer with the Dual Socket Extreme Desktop Platform

Intel this week officially launched its "Dual Socket Extreme Desktop Platform", formerly referred to by its codename, Skulltrail. Designed to work with the new Core 2 Extreme QX9775, the platform offers dual CPU sockets, a total of 8 cores, and four graphics card slots.

Intel’s Skulltrail platform consists of two fundamental components. The first is the Intel D5400XS motherboard, which is a dual socket motherboard with four graphics card slots. The second component is a pair of QX9775 processors that run at 3.2 GHz. These are the only parts that the Skulltrail platform encompasses.  

Skulltrail provides users with the opportunity to tweak their components at a level not previously offered by Intel. The D5400XS motherboard features a plethora of customization options. In addition, both of the Core 2 Extreme QX9775 processors feature unlocked multipliers.  

Derived from workstation platforms, Intel Skulltrail still retains some of its workstation features. For example, it only supports fully buffered DIMMS, which means higher latency as well as higher power consumption compared to standard DDR2 memory.

In the past, before Intel had announced Skulltrail, AMD launched a similar dual CPU enthusiast platform, dubbed Quad FX.  However, acceptance of the platform wasn’t widespread and AMD pulled the plug on the project.  

Intel’s Skulltrail has been in the news for quite some time, but only recently has it made its debut. The earliest announcements regarding Skulltrail surfaced at the Fall Intel Developer Forum 2007.

Pricing of the new platform is quite high. The QX9775 is listed at $1,499 while the D5400XS board is listed at $649.



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FB-DIMMS?
By oab on 2/23/2008 12:05:40 AM , Rating: 4
Is Intel crazy? Because FB-DIMMS make any gaming on that sort of system (and it's a gaming system with four graphics card slots), just plain stupid.

Might as well buy a mac pro. Sure you don't have 4x PCI-E 16x slots, but at least it isn't pretending to be a gaming system, something this Intel platform is.




RE: FB-DIMMS?
By marsbound2024 on 2/23/2008 12:24:50 AM , Rating: 3
I would suspect that someone buying the Skulltrail system would more than likely be doing some serious 3D work instead of being a serious gamer.


RE: FB-DIMMS?
By Joz on 2/23/2008 12:54:58 AM , Rating: 2
Skulltrail is going to be the ultimate workstation...

dang I cant afford it :(


RE: FB-DIMMS?
By GaryJohnson on 2/23/2008 10:01:29 AM , Rating: 2
Some of us (or maybe just me) want to do serious gaming and serious 3D work with our PCs.


RE: FB-DIMMS?
By marsbound2024 on 2/24/2008 12:12:56 AM , Rating: 2
I'm assuming that if you have enough money to purchase a Skulltrail system for your 3D rendering, video editing or whatever you are doing for professional media development, then you are probably going to dish out another couple of grand on a pretty awesome gaming computer that is for personal entertainment use. I don't see why you can't do some gaming with the Skulltrail system to begin with. But Skulltrail is overkill for games anyways. You don't need eight cores and four GPUs to play games. Go with two 8800GTXs or wait for the 9800GTXs to come out.


RE: FB-DIMMS?
By masher2 (blog) on 2/24/2008 1:12:15 AM , Rating: 1
The point is that, due to the FB-DIMMs, an 8-core Skulltrail system is going to be *slower* for gaming than your average quad or even a dual-core system. So it's not a good fit there.

And if you're buying a system for 3D rendering or video editing, you have no interest in SLI. You'll just buy a dual-socket workstation mobo, save some money, and get 8 cores with equal performance. So Skulltrail isn't a good fit there either.

So really, its a platform without much of a home.


RE: FB-DIMMS?
By marsbound2024 on 2/24/2008 3:33:25 AM , Rating: 2
Actually I thought there was a use for SLI for professionals:

E.g.: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gef...

There was also an article on DailyTech a while back about a "portable" system for using like 4 nVidia cards for like oil-drilling. I can't remember that article.

nVidia FAQ: http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_sli_faq.html

This article confirms the fact it isn't the greatest gaming platform: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=514

I think professionals can find use for SLI graphics cards and the processing power. Also I think there are some apps that are starting to make use of GPUs for rendering purposes. Besides, just look at this: http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/05/nvidia-rolls-ou...


RE: FB-DIMMS?
By BSMonitor on 2/26/2008 11:54:52 AM , Rating: 2
Serious Gamer Hardware != Serious 3D Work Hardware


Skulltrail != QuadFX
By joemoedee on 2/25/2008 10:15:51 AM , Rating: 2
There is one big difference between this and AMD's QuadFX solution. This is 2 CPU x 4 Core, versus 2 CPU x 2 Core.

AMD's answer to the Intel Quad Core chips was the inferior QuadFX platform as a stopgap until they could release a true Quad Core (Phenom) cpu for the consumer.

This is a niche product, and Intel's in a position that they can afford to put such products out on the market.

I, for one, am glad to see them continuing to attempt to innovate and try new things with their commanding lead in the "cpu war" versus the Intel of old that would just rest on its laurels.




RE: Skulltrail != QuadFX
By murphyslabrat on 2/25/2008 1:39:48 PM , Rating: 2
The point is, it isn't worth it. There is relatively no performance gain in games, with an immense added cost.


HUGE NICHE
By Nik00117 on 2/23/2008 8:33:11 AM , Rating: 2
This is a huge niche market item.

I highly doubt i'll be seeing one of those soon. This kinda computer is for the computer ethurist with a 6xx,xxx + year a job type deal.

I know I wouldn't pay that much.




what is the point
By sphyder on 2/23/2008 2:36:45 PM , Rating: 2
It seems to me that this is a waste of money for gaming purposes, as most games aren't even coded to make proper use of multi-core processors let alone multiple processors with multiple cores. Combine that with the weak memory configuration, and you have one expensive machine for pumping out spreadsheets at lightning speed.




8 Cores
By Trisagion on 2/24/2008 2:57:37 AM , Rating: 2
IMO it would be more prudent to wait for Nehalem and use DDR3 than go with this board.




What?
By WTurner on 2/23/08, Rating: -1
RE: What?
By jabber on 2/23/2008 8:07:37 PM , Rating: 2
I doubt it. Once you did into the specs its not that 'refined' or applicable to gaming, Its a sledgehammer to crack a nut approach.

After all its just a hastiliy lab bodged sever board. You are paying for the pleasure of buying one of the fifty or so that might make it into the retail channel. Most will end up a curio on hardware reviewers shelves or running Folding at home in a years time.


RE: What?
By eye smite on 2/24/2008 7:54:51 AM , Rating: 4
I don't necessarily agree with that. The cost is prohibitive. I just built a quadFX system in January because wow it's finally affordable, affordable meaning what I'm willing to spend for that many components. I'm sure it will be the same with the skulltrail, it will be bought and used by the 1337 crowd which would be a natural conclusion. Why did I build a quadFX you ask? Well, to process work units on world community grid primarily. I know, silly huh.


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