Sources: BBC News, Electronista
quote: long-overdue native USB 3.0 support.
quote: Competitor Advanced Micro Device, Inc. (AMD) just unleashed a power-sipping pair of system-on-a-chip designs dubbed Trinity and Brazos 2.0.
quote: while delivering superior pricing.
quote: And that's not to mention the waiting ranks of ARM chipmakers like Qualcomm, Inc. (QCOM) who are preparing their chips, such as the Snapdragon 4 series, for Windows 8 laptops. Like AMD, they are built on a bigger feature size, but include more lightweight cores. Additionally, ARM chips enjoy certain architectural advantages from a power perspective versus Intel and AMD's x86 chips.
quote: Early reviews [example] are not looking good for Intel on the IGP front, as they show the chip unable to beat AMD's last generation design, and posting 50 percent (less than promised) gains in real world games and 80 percent gains in synthetic benchmarks. While there's a need for more careful analysis (Anandtech's thorough review is on the way -- teaser here.), it appears that Ivy Bridge may be DirectX 11 compatible, but will need to be paired with a discrete GPU (unlike AMD's design) to have acceptable gaming.
quote: In other words, don't necessarily expect a $900 USD Intel Ultrabook to be any higher build quality than a $500 AMD ultrathin.
quote: Really, where are all the USB 3.0 devices if integrating this support into the chipset is LONG OVERDUE??
quote: These chips are not available.
quote: This is a function of demand. You cannot charge more for something no one wants.
quote: No ARM chip can even remotely compete in terms of performance on the desktop with ANY AMD or Intel CPU.
quote: No one ever claimed Ivy Bridge's IGP would surpass AMD's Llano. AMD's Llano incorporates 400 shader units and utilizes much more power in doing so. No one claimed IVB would be 2 times faster than SNB IGP. Intel only raised the number of EU's from 12 to 16.
quote: How is this possible?? Explain. A top of the line IVB for an ultra-thin will cost at most $300. So using the same components short of the APU, AMD will be selling Trinity APU's for $-100 for Ultrabooks.
quote: Hosts first, devices later; that's the way it happens
quote: hey have shipped to ODMs. IVB isn't available either.
quote: Actually, it's called market positioning. If you want/are able to compete with an i3, your price in accordance.
quote: Clearly you haven't heard that Windows 8 isn't really aimed at the desktop, but rather tablets and convertibles, where ARM rules the roost.
quote: They claimed it would be competitive. It's not.
quote: A few reading comprehension exercises will allow you to recall the fact that the author implies the price of a discrete GPU (needed for IVB to compete in graphics performance with the incoming Trinity APUs) will eat up a portion of the budget for comparable Intel ultrathins.
quote: "Unrealistic" is a relative term. Everyone and their brother were hyping finfets/3d transistors as being the next coming/the best thing since sliced bread
quote: when at best it is an incremental improvement
quote: It is. It's pushed back Moores Law. If you can't understand that, I don't know what to say.
quote: And SOI? Where are you getting this stuff from? SOI is a whole lot more expensive to produce than building a finFET based processor currently. SOI has always been more expensive thus why Intel has never used SOI in their processors. Why don't you actually read about the problems that AMD has had with SOI and compare Bulldozer to Ivy Bridge. Notice something?The two aren't even at odds anyway. SOI is a materials change while finFet is a structural improvement. In theory you could have finFET processors on SOI, which would pretty much rock.
quote: That's by design of course. Hello? This is the first Ivy Bridge chip.
quote: You people can be Tri-Gate deniers if that makes you happy, whatever. It's willful ignorance in my opinion. It's like arguing that fuel injection isn't all that great, and carburetors are almost as good lol.
quote: SOI, HKMG and tri-gate transistors are all targeted at one thing: improving transistor performance, whatever the metric you choose to measure "performance". Also, I'm simply comparing the impact of the move to these different techniques
quote: That being said, I'm judging the technology as it is currently implemented, and the results are (again) an incremental improvement.
quote: This sounds like a case where people were hyped due to misinformation.
quote: TDP != power consumption
quote: If AMD can beat Intel in graphics-enabled applications such as Adobe Systems Inc.'s (ADBE) Photoshop CS6 and various games, the question is what if any good Intel's much more powerful CPU cores are for laptop users.
quote: I think this article should be written by a person who understands the market a bit more.
quote: Honestly, how many laptop users use PS-CS6 or play "intensive" games on the laptops? Casual gamers would love better battery life than better graphics (may not be true for all, but for most!)
quote: IVB graphics are at par with most low-end graphics cards. IVB media functionality surpasses all the discrete cards (far more superior to AMD's transcode solution). I am guessing that's more important than casual gaming.Let's see other than browsing, office (productivity), coding (might be only a few, but still there), music, watching videos, running apps, cloud services, etc etc... WTH, I see that all of them require a better CPU than a better graphics.
quote: If AMD can beat Intel in graphics-enabled applications such as Adobe Systems Inc.'s (ADBE) Photoshop CS6 and various games
quote: Actual product level performance depends on pricing, binning and the market. For instance, Intel has an edge for very low power designs due to process technology. The 22nm FinFETs are exceptionally efficient at low voltage and it is likely that Ivy Bridge will match Trinity for 17W designs. At 25-35W for conventional notebooks, Intel should trail by around 20%, which is close enough to be competitive.
quote: the question is what if any good Intel's much more powerful CPU cores are for laptop users.
quote: Intel reportedly has three factories fully upgraded to the 22 nm process and churning out Ivy Bridge chips, with a third coming online later this year
quote: Maybe I'll stick with Sandy Bridge if Intel now thinks 3+1=3.
quote: Additionally, ARM chips enjoy certain architectural advantages from a power perspective versus Intel and AMD's x86 chips.