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Intel D201GLY mini ITX motherboard (Source: Newegg)
Intel's first SiS-based mini ITX board hits retail

Intel’s Desktop Board D201GLY mini ITX motherboard has shipped to retailers. The D201GLY features a SiS662 north bridge paired with a SiS964L south bridge and an integrated Celeron 215 processor. Intel clocks the Celeron 215 processor at 1.33 GHz on a 533 MHz front-side bus. The Yonah-based processor remains single-core and has 512KB of L2 cache.

The D201GLY features one PATA 100 port for two devices, Analog Devices AD1888 six-channel audio, 10/100 Ethernet, integrated graphics, one DDR2-533 memory slot and one PCI slot. Intel has removed SATA ports from the D201GLY; however, the board appears to have a silk-screened section resembling SATA connectors.

Expect to pay less than $100 for the Intel Desktop Board D201GLY from retailers. Retailers such as Newegg sell a single board for $89.99, while others take the Costco approach and sell the D201GLY in 10-packs.

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car pc?
By EnzoFX on 6/27/2007 1:57:54 AM , Rating: 2
is this a viable option for a car pc? i wonder how it compares to those via's with passive heatsinks, etc.. and it seems they have better features? i could be wrong

RE: car pc?
By PaxtonFettel on 6/27/2007 4:22:46 AM , Rating: 2
I don't see why not. My only concern with car PCs is cooling, it can get very hot in a car in the summer, to the degree that air temperature is as hot as you'd want your core. Maybe some kind of custon heatsink could make it more viable...

RE: car pc?
By deeznuts on 6/27/2007 4:43:18 AM , Rating: 3
Not when you're riding it right? The only time I can see the computer being on is when you're in the car, and you definitely won't have the temp that high in the car, would you?

RE: car pc?
By TomZ on 6/27/2007 11:53:04 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, I think it could get hot enough to cause some concern. That board is only rated for 55°C maximum, which is easily achievable in the operator compartment on a hot day.

When you first start the car, even if you put on the air conditioner right away, it would still take a few minutes to cool off inside the PC enclosure, so if you were to try to boot the computer right away (or have it boot with ignition) it could be a small problem.

RE: car pc?
By deeznuts on 6/27/2007 1:10:08 PM , Rating: 3
I think it'll be ok. First, it'll be idling, unless you are running prime95 or orhtos right away. 55c is 131 degrees. Suggestion, do not get in your car when it's 131 degrees.

It'll be ok if you're not running it max right away. 27watts can't be that hot.

RE: car pc?
By TomZ on 6/27/2007 1:43:52 PM , Rating: 2
Probably you'll be booting Windows (or Linux) at the start, which is 100% CPU load, right?

It was 140°F in my car last week, when it was only about 90ºF outside, here in Michigan. I suppose it gets hotter than that in hotter parts of the country.

RE: car pc?
By TomZ on 6/27/2007 2:13:17 PM , Rating: 2
I should also mention that I design automotive electronic instrumentation for a living, and all of our electronics are designed for -40ºC to 85°C. So 55ºC is pretty "cool" really.

By wrekd on 6/27/2007 10:17:15 AM , Rating: 2
The price is right,

The fact that they dropped SATA for PATA...WTF

Is that a printer port on there?

USB and SATA would have been a better choice and I doubt it would have affected the cost that much. Not to mention the real estate that could have been save by killing of legacy technology.

RE: Close
By TomZ on 6/27/2007 10:26:48 AM , Rating: 2
The board clearly has USB ports, you can see them in the picture.

This board would most likely be paired up with a 2.5" mobile HDD, and most of them in the market now are PATA still. That market is adopting SATA at a pretty slow rate.

RE: Close
By wrekd on 6/27/2007 12:40:42 PM , Rating: 2
Silly Z man

I never said it didn't have USB ports. I have been looking at VIA ITX boards for years now and they never seem to put the right combination of features in for my needs.

And this board could be easily paired with a 1.8" SDD, especially if it does end up being mobile.

This is supposed to be Intel’s entrance into the ITX world and a screw you to AMD's DTX form factor. And they included a damn parallel port when they should have left it out in favor of USB (that is already on the board). Same thing with the SATA ports. The only up side is the price is way lower than a VIA model.

Why did you need this spelled out for you?

RE: Close
By TomZ on 6/27/2007 12:54:08 PM , Rating: 2
I guess because you weren't very clear in the first place. :o)

RE: Close
By deeznuts on 6/27/2007 1:14:08 PM , Rating: 2
You were a bit ambiguous with your (USB and SATA) statement. The target market with this is not going to use SATA ports. Look at most mini-ITX boxes and you get a 2.5" slot for a HDD. And I'm not even talking about even more specialized installations.

The idea is a low-cost box for whatever the hell you are doing. Of course I would have liked to see a SATA port, they're not that big. But at $80 well the bean counters won. The parallel port is more useful than the SATA port for their market.

RE: Close
By lumbergeek on 6/27/2007 1:36:25 PM , Rating: 2
And if they had to choose one over the other, most optical drives are PATA, though that is beginning to change.

a bad day for via
By Gul Westfale on 6/27/2007 12:24:42 AM , Rating: 2
well it might just be a celeron, but a 1.33GHz Yonah will beat the crap out of anything Via has on offer. Plus, the price is right...

so either Via will now need to get its act together and offer some better hardware at better prices in teh future, or maybe they should simply consider getting rid of their CPU business altogether...

RE: a bad day for via
By Samus on 6/27/2007 5:18:11 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, I can't remember the last time I saw an Intel board without an Intel chipset on it.

Crazyness. Not that SiS (or VIA) is bad, but generally their memory controllers aren't the best performers and don't feel as responsive. SiS has also always had their share of IDE bugs (PIO mode anyone?)

But, 90 bucks is crazy cheap, and this is sure to kill anything else VIA or AMD has. Yonah FTW.

RE: a bad day for via
By jacarte8 on 6/27/2007 9:49:37 AM , Rating: 2
What about 6 months ago when half the boards Intel was selling had ATI chipsets?

where would I get a case for this?
By Pirks on 6/27/2007 1:36:05 AM , Rating: 1
guys, does anyone have an idea where to get an inexpensive and small case for this thing? I'd be interested in assembling my own mac mini clone, looks sweet!

By Lightning III on 6/27/2007 8:26:15 AM , Rating: 2
a cigar box should do it be creative

RE: where would I get a case for this?
By djtodd on 6/27/2007 8:55:38 AM , Rating: 2

:) enjoy

By Pirks on 6/27/2007 1:45:17 PM , Rating: 1
thanks todd!!!

By deeznuts on 6/27/2007 3:37:59 AM , Rating: 2
Cheaper here:

Not sure about shipping though so make sure to compare that. Lotsa good stuff at logicsupply. Here are cases:

power consumptopn
By sprockkets on 6/27/2007 11:37:18 AM , Rating: 2

Shows power consumption at about 27watts with a HDD. Not bad. I bought one since they are so cheap for a mini-itx board. Yeah, no SATA. A $16 add on board fixed that, and even then it is still cheaper than most boards. At least it should have 2 PATA ports.

If this is a Celeron M or Yonah derivative it will will rock. Otherwise VIA claims the performance per a watt of the C7 is better than the old PM. The C7 is NOT based on the Cyrix CPU either. Without someone comparing the latest boards side by side we will never know.

By sprockkets on 6/27/2007 2:25:12 PM , Rating: 2
Suggest this for a case:

It has an 80watt power supply and has the P4 connector built in for it. This computer, being small and all, with a $33 1GB DDR2 stick of RAM in it will probably be good enough for 80% of the people out there who want a new computer. Yeah, no Aero Glass interface, but big deal. Directron also has the slot loading Pioneer DVR-K06 too, perfect.

Why exactly?
By Treckin on 6/27/07, Rating: -1
RE: Why exactly?
By smilingcrow on 6/27/2007 6:06:09 AM , Rating: 2
"Why is there not a low end, low TDP c2d or mobile version on this board."

This is a 65nm single-core Core based Celeron M derivative, so it is a mobile CPU. It will have a low power consumption but will probably lack Speedstep which will increase idle power consumption and mean you can’t undervolt it using software.

RE: Why exactly?
By TomZ on 6/27/2007 7:47:00 AM , Rating: 2
One word: silence. These are designed for very quiet/silent installations, e.g., CarPC as another poster suggested. Do you want to have 80+ cm fans running in your car?

RE: Why exactly?
By zsdersw on 6/27/2007 7:56:45 AM , Rating: 2
We have numerous PCs with SiS chipsets.. and they've been nothing but reliable and of reasonable performance, so no.. SiS chipsets do not suck, and definitely not as much as you say they do.

RE: Why exactly?
By DeepBlue1975 on 6/27/2007 8:36:52 AM , Rating: 2
Not all sis chipsets were bad. The fact that many of them were oriented towards low end machines does not make them bad.

RE: Why exactly?
By Gul Westfale on 6/27/2007 11:32:19 PM , Rating: 2
my experience with SiS is mixed. i used to own a bunch of 735-based boards (socket A thunderbirds, anyone?), and they were always stable, compatible wit hall the crap i threw at them, and performance was on teh same level as the faster but more expensive Via KT chipsets of the day. the boards were made by a low-end company, too; ECS to be exact.

i bought an MSI board with the successor chipset, the 745, later and had nothing but problems with it, from start-up issues to slow hard drive performance.

however, a computer i recently built for a friend had a SiS chipset, and that worked fine... and still does. so i giess some are OK, and some are not so OK.

if this chipset here finds itself on an intel-branded board then i'm sure intel have done enough testing on it to make sure it's alright.

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