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Say hello to Intel's "3 Series"

DailyTech has stumbled across Intel’s latest roadmap that reveals the naming scheme for its upcoming Bearlake chipsets. Bearlake is Intel’s upcoming replacement for the current Broadwater 96x series of chipsets and expected to arrive in 2007. Six variants of Bearlake are expected in the form of Bearlake-Q, Bearlake-QF, Bearlake-X, Bearlake-P, Bearlake-G+ and Bearlake-G. Intel’s upcoming Bearlake series has been named the “3 Series.” On the vPro side of things, Bearlake-Q and Bearlake-QF have been named Intel Q35 and Q33 Express respectively. Consumer high end chipsets Bearlake-X and Bearlake-P will receive the Intel X38 and P35 Express names respectively while mainstream Bearlake-G+ and Bearlake-G receive the Intel G35 and G33 names.

Intel’s upcoming X38 Express chipset is expected to replace the current Intel 975X Express chipset. The X38 Express brings new features such as PCI Express 2.0 compatibility as well as two full speed PCI Express x16 slots. DDR3 1333 will be the memory standard of choice. On the premium and mainstream side of things is Intel’s G33, G35 and P35 Express chipsets. Intel’s upcoming G33 Express chipset will feature a graphics core that features Intel Clear Video Technology. Memory support on G33 Express will be limited to DDR3-1066 or DDR2-800. Front-side bus speeds of 1333 MHz are supported with the mainstream G33 Express. Stepping up a notch is the G35 Express which features a DirectX 10 compatible graphics core. G35 Express will fully support high definition content playback with HDCP protection. DDR3-1066, DDR2-800 and a 1333 MHz front-side bus are also supported. Intel’s P35 Express will be similar to G35 Express except with the integrated graphics core removed. Intel’s X38, G33, G35 and P35 will be paired with upcoming ICH9, ICH9R and ICH9DH south bridges.

Moving into 2007 are new platforms as well. The current Averill vPro professional platform will be replaced by the upcoming Weybridge Pro platform. Weybridge Pro is expected to arrive in Q3’07 and based around Intel’s Q35 Express chipset. New features to Weybridge Pro include Intel’s AMT Pro and Intel Trusted Execution Technology (TXT). Intel’s Trusted Execution Technology is new and is designed to protect sensitive information from software attacks. This is performed without compromising usability. Weybridge Pro will also support Intel’s upcoming 1333 MHz front-side bus processors as well.

Catered towards business users that don’t need advanced management capabilities is the Weybridge Fundamental platform which is expected to arrive the same time as Weybridge Pro. Weybridge Fundamental is based around Intel’s upcoming Q33 Express chipset and adds support for Intel’s AMT technology—a feature only available on Intel’s vPro platform. In addition to Intel AMT, Weybridge Fundamental will be upgraded to support 1066 MHz front-side bus processors. While there’s no platform naming, Intel will also position its 946GZ chipset with Pentium D and Pentium E1000 series processors towards the budget business user.

On the desktop side of things, Intel’s enthusiast platform retains the Extreme Platform moniker, albeit the Intel X38 Express chipset replaces the current 975X Express chipset in Q3’07. Two premium/mainstream platforms will be available this time around in the form of Salt Creek and Santa Rosa Desktop. Salt Creek is based around Intel’s upcoming Core 2 Quad Q6600 processor and existing Core 2 Duo processors. Premium Salt Creek platforms will feature Intel’s P35, G35 and X38 chipsets while mainstream platforms will feature Intel’s G33 Express chipset. Santa Rosa Desktop systems will feature Core 2 Duo T7000 series processors coupled with Intel’s GM965 or PM965 Express chipsets and essentially be a mobile on desktop platform. Intel Extreme Platform, Salt Creek and Santa Rosa Desktop platforms are all part of Intel’s Viiv multimedia platform. At the value end of things is Intel’s 946GZ Express chipset paired with Intel Pentium E1000 and Celeron 400 series processors.

Lastly is Intel’s single processor workstation platform. Current Wyloway single processor platform based around Intel’s 975X Express chipset will be replaced by the upcoming Garlow WS platform. Garlow WS  is expected to arrive Q3’07 and feature Intel’s upcoming X38 chipset with support for dual and quad-core processors.


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DDR3?
By ForumMaster on 10/17/2006 1:50:11 PM , Rating: 1
intel is already pushing DDR3? what payment are they getting from the memory companies? i still use DDR. DDR2 is finally starting to become common. now DDR3? why not skip DDR3 and go straight to DDR4? DDR4 is already being used on the x1950 pro-xt. why not use it instead?




RE: DDR3?
By Phynaz on 10/17/06, Rating: -1
RE: DDR3?
By BladeVenom on 10/17/2006 3:07:21 PM , Rating: 1
ATI's next generation of video cards that is suppose to come out in Febuary is going to use DDR4. Samsung is already making it, and shipping it to video card companies.


RE: DDR3?
By kamel5547 on 10/17/2006 3:16:41 PM , Rating: 4
As someone has noted there is a difference between GDDR and DDR... the memory used by video cards is NOT the same as that used by your CPU (although it sure would simplfy things and probably bring costs down...). DDR4 does not exists, and is not in production.


RE: DDR3?
By Samus on 10/17/2006 5:11:24 PM , Rating: 2
correct. do you have any idea how much a gig of gddr4 would cost, even if it were implementable as chipset compatible for desktops? and unlike ddr, gddr doesn't drop in price as a new technology until a newer technology threatens to replace it.


RE: DDR3?
By archcommus on 10/17/2006 1:59:53 PM , Rating: 2
GPU memory is different from system memory. I think DDR3 is the last desktop memory transition we'll see for awhile, all it really offers over DDR2 is large power savings.

With that said, I currently have an A64 CPU and DDR memory, and I'm going to try to skip dual core/DDR2 entirely and go straight to quad core/DDR3 maybe mid to late next year. If it will be affordable, however.


RE: DDR3?
By Korvon on 10/17/2006 2:27:20 PM , Rating: 2
DDR3 also has higher clock speeds.


RE: DDR3?
By FITCamaro on 10/17/2006 2:38:18 PM , Rating: 3
GPUs are using GDDR3 and GDDR4(currently only used by the X1950). GDDR is different than DDR.

I do agree that I think its a little soon to be moving to DDR3 though. DDR2 is finally coming into full swing. Lets stick with a standard for a little longer please Intel. I really doubt the extra memory bandwidth is going to be used on a platform that doesn't have an IMC.


RE: DDR3?
By MonkeyPaw on 10/17/2006 2:58:55 PM , Rating: 3
AMD is also planning to move to DDR3 ASAP. It makes sense with the quad-core plans of both AMD and Intel, since DDR3 will provide both a boost in bandwidth and a decrease in power consumption. Back at launch, I remember quite a few people saying that DDR2 would not have a very long life relative to previous memory technologies. One of the more exciting rumors I've heard was that DDR3 might be able to forgo the FB-DIMM approach in server/workstation applications, making for simpler, cheaper, more efficient memory modules. AMD was supposedly involved in this development, but I guess we'll see if that pans out.


RE: DDR3?
By JeffDM on 10/17/2006 11:24:11 PM , Rating: 3
One of the more exciting rumors I've heard was that DDR3 might be able to forgo the FB-DIMM approach in server/workstation applications, making for simpler, cheaper, more efficient memory modules.

I don't know about that. Maybe.

My understanding is that FB-DIMMs will have DDR3 chips on-board when they are available. Basically, each FB-D has its own on-module parallel memory bus that is abstracted away from the computer. With a different AMB chip to account for the new memory standard, you can probably drop in DDR3-based FB-Ds along side DDR2-based modules.


RE: DDR3?
By 6qzdhngj83b4msx on 10/17/2006 2:46:12 PM , Rating: 2
x1950 pro-xt uses G DDR4, with stands for GRAPHICS DDR4. Of course this kind of memory cannot be used by the system itself. Do not confuse yourself ;)


Interesting
By gramboh on 10/17/2006 2:02:07 PM , Rating: 2
Are the new ICH9R supposed to add new features? Anywhere I can read about this stuff?

Also why the hell aren't Liteon/Benq etc. making cheap S-ATA DVDRW drives yet? I want to go fully SATA in my C2D build but I don't want to pay $160CDN for a stupid Plextor SATA drive.




RE: Interesting
By archcommus on 10/17/2006 2:06:36 PM , Rating: 2
I would also wait and see how SATA optical drives function in Vista. I've heard it can be difficult to install XP off SATA optical drives if you have any driver issues.


RE: Interesting
By FITCamaro on 10/17/2006 2:43:32 PM , Rating: 3
I'd like to go full SATA but on my current system I only have 1 unused SATA port and 2 optical drives. Comes from having 5 hard drives.

The main reason SATA optical drives really aren't coming out is because optical drives really aren't fast enough to even stress an IDE interface much less SATA. And yeah theres some issues with installing Windows using a SATA optical drive. I mean even reading/burning a DVD at 16x you're only pushing 21-22MB/s. So its not like the interface is slowing you down.


RE: Interesting
By gramboh on 10/17/2006 4:26:40 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. But I don't want full SATA for throughput reasons, I'd like it for a few reasons

i) No IDE ribbon cables taking up tons of space. The rounded ones are slightly better but still very bulky compared to SATA (rounded also degrades performance slightly, apparently, but again non issue on optical).

ii) No IDE ports/controller chipset cluttering up mainboard, more room for more SATA ports.

iii) Slightly lower overhead configuration/device drivers and BIOS if no IDE devices on board.

If a situation ever arose where I needed an IDE port for an older hard drive to get data off, I would probably buy a $20 PCI IDE controller.


RE: Interesting
By JeffDM on 10/17/2006 11:06:53 PM , Rating: 2
If a situation ever arose where I needed an IDE port for an older hard drive to get data off, I would probably buy a $20 PCI IDE controller.

Really, you would just get an old external enclosure. They are better for temporary stuff like that anyway.

I think board makers would love to get rid of the PCI slots about as much as you would like to be rid of IDE.

For now, I don't think it's that practical because there isn't much of a variety of SATA optical drives. They are available, but just choosing SATA narrows down your options significantly. I really don't understand why they are so rare. I'm not swayed by the whole airflow argument, it just seems odd that there are so few that use a three year old connector standard.


RE: Interesting
By JoshTX84 on 10/17/2006 4:43:22 PM , Rating: 2
Best Buy sells a Samsung Sata drive that is 18x and has Lightscribe. It's $87.99, maybe you could find it on future shop? I have looked around for some reviews to see how it performs vs. its ide brother but I haven't had any luck. Maybe it's too new, or maybe it's a BBY exclusive.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7943...


RE: Interesting
By Etern205 on 10/18/2006 10:34:12 AM , Rating: 2
I kind of curious as to what's the difference
between these 3 chipsets ICH9, ICH9R, and ICH9DH.

Well although the R probably stands for "RAID" support
but what does the DH stand for? "Digital Home"?
And if it is, when will it have RAID and other functions as well?
ICH9R<ICH9DH or ICH9R>ICH9DH?


RE: Interesting
By jonp on 10/18/2006 4:15:27 PM , Rating: 2
If it follows from the P965 then the R is for RAID (Intel Matrix Storage Technology) and the DH is for Intel High Defnition Audio ???
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/p965/prodbr...


Time to ditch those legacy ports!
By Mudvillager on 10/17/2006 1:48:36 PM , Rating: 3
Hopefully some mobo manufacturers will ditch legacy ports completely on these new set of chips to make room for more current standards.




By archcommus on 10/17/2006 2:01:10 PM , Rating: 1
What kind of legacy ports? All I really see on most current motherboards is one parallel port and PS/2 ports. PS/2 ports will probably be around for quite awhile longer. What new ports do we really need to see anyway?


RE: Time to ditch those legacy ports!
By Pirks on 10/17/2006 3:07:58 PM , Rating: 2
hey mud did you hear about abit AT7? a mobo with NO PS/2, NO LPT and NO COM - can you believe it? I used to have one, and its death was the saddest event of my life in 2004 :-( this was THE ONLY DIY mobo with NO LEGACY at all (for that time at least when SATA did not exist), and it's still the only mobo like that - the second closest that comes to it is abit AN8-V.

now, the most interesting part here is that Dell (DELL! can you velieve this???) started to make TRULY ABSOLUTELY LEGACY FREE systems, (with SATA DVDRW, wow) there was a review of them recently here at AT, I believe the name is XPS 410, these are C2D boxes.

well, no more inexpensive/DIY legacy free PCs I'm aware of. botique and Mac don't qualify due to $$$ ;)


RE: Time to ditch those legacy ports!
By JeffDM on 10/17/2006 11:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure what the deal is, or really why it would matter. So it has connectors you won't use. Just don't use them then. Through economies of scale, it's often cheaper to satisfy a larger potential market with all the connectors than it is to satisfy two or more smaller markets, each with the connectors they need and without the connectors they don't. If the DIY and generic-box markets truly demanded legacy-free products, then I think there would actually be more boards to fill the demand.


By Etern205 on 10/18/2006 10:41:10 AM , Rating: 2
IMHO I hope that they keep the legacey PS/2 ports. It's not just because I can't afford a USB mouse and keyboard as a matter of fact I do have them, but somehow comparing a keyboard and a mouse that uses USB and the legacy PS/2. I
find it that the PS/2 has a better detection than the USB type. When you restart or turn on a computer the PS/2 keyboard and mouse are dectected right away, but for USB, you might need to sometimes unplug and a then replug it back it in, just to make it work.


DT
By gramboh on 10/17/2006 2:06:15 PM , Rating: 2
Can you post the roadmap? It says 2007 but I'm curious when we can expect the new boards, specifically X38 and P35 from board makers like Asus. I will be deciding between NV 680i and P35/X38 if they are on the horizon.




RE: DT
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 10/18/2006 12:53:29 AM , Rating: 3
Unfortunately, it would compromise our sources and draw a bit much heat if we openly posted the foils.

In any case, the Intel launch cycle for chipsets is usually May (at least, the last several chipsets have launched in May of the year they were announced). We don't know the exact date, but that might be something to go on.


mmm
By soybeast on 10/17/2006 2:35:46 PM , Rating: 4
Anybody else read that as Beerlake the first time around? Mmmmm a lake of beeeeeer




Holy number soup, Batman!
By JeffDM on 10/17/2006 11:16:53 PM , Rating: 3
The second paragraph is awash with numbers!




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