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Date was pushed back to allow more time for depositions of witnesses on both sides

Way back in 2005, AMD filed a lawsuit against Intel that alleged that the company abused its market leading position to keep competition out of the marketplace. Part of the AMD allegations claim that Intel offered free products and large discounts to keep computer makers from using AMD processors.

Since the suit was filed in 2005 not much has been done in court other that delay after delay in actually bringing the case to trial. This week, the federal antitrust case against Intel was again postponed from its April 2009 day in court to a new date of February 2010.

EWeek reports that this is the second major delay in the case. The last major delay came in 2007 when Intel announced that it had erased documents and emails relating to the case. Intel maintains that it did not erase any important documents relating to the trial.

DailyTech reported in May 2008 that new documents in the case had been presented to detail AMDs complaints against Intel. At the time it was also reported that documents filed in the case had already exceeded 150 million pages and attorneys for both AMD and Intel still claim to have many more witnesses to depose.

Intel has had an up and down week; on June 5th it was fined $25 million in a South Korean antitrust case that found Intel had provided illegal rebates and discounts to keep computer makers from buying processors from AMD. However, the company drew amazement from many when early Nehalem benchmarks were revealed.

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Terminal Delays
By gmw1082 on 6/6/2008 12:15:48 PM , Rating: 1
With the high performing Nehalem coming soon and AMD having nothing to compete, Intel has formed a good strategy here. Keep delaying the case and hope AMD goes bankrupt before it ever reaches court. Of course AMD going bankrupt would be a sad sad day.




RE: Terminal Delays
By nosfe on 6/6/2008 12:24:08 PM , Rating: 2
yes nehalem is coming but you won't see mainstream nehalem until q3 2009, this is what you get without competition


RE: Terminal Delays
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 6/6/08, Rating: 0
RE: Terminal Delays
By nosfe on 6/6/2008 1:01:30 PM , Rating: 4
Lynnfield - Mainstream desktop - H2 2009
thats what i've been reading around the web lately, you decide if you believe it or not

http://www.hardware-infos.com/img/startseite/intel... (roadmap pic)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_%28microarchi...


RE: Terminal Delays
By lifeblood on 6/6/2008 1:20:47 PM , Rating: 2
According to your wikipedia link, Bloomfield is a desktop part. That comes in Q4 08, or am I reading that wrong?


RE: Terminal Delays
By nosfe on 6/6/2008 1:26:52 PM , Rating: 1
no you didn't, so far Bloomfield is coming this year, but its a "performance desktop" part, i was talking about mainstream, i don't have the money for those kind of processors so they don't interest me :P


RE: Terminal Delays
By Viditor on 6/6/2008 1:30:09 PM , Rating: 2
The Extreme desktop parts should be out for Xmas, but they are on a different socket than the normal desktop chips.
The rest of the desktops start coming out sporadically in Q1 09, though the majority are still slated for mid to late 09.


RE: Terminal Delays
By NullSubroutine on 6/6/2008 1:44:55 PM , Rating: 3
No it won't it will be available in limited supplies for High-End Server and Enthusiast markets. You can see that amount Intel plans to ship based on [b]INTELS[/b] own documents.

Now who is spreading FUD?


RE: Terminal Delays
By Adnoctum on 6/6/2008 4:16:57 PM , Rating: 3
Wow.

For someone who goes on and on (and on, Ad infinitum) about how much he knows about all things technological/environmental/political/...(who am I kidding, EVERYTHING, am I right?), you seem to have a poor grasp of the Intel CPU roadmap.

Here's a few hints that you may find useful in leading a better DailyTech life:

1) The definition of "Mainstream" doesn't include server or workstation parts. Maybe in your parallel universe, but not this one.

2) Use your brain for more than a paper weight BEFORE abusing people for their thoughts and knowledge. Take more than a second to consider what they said and ask yourself "Are they right?", then reply, not with anger and abuse but a well thought out and reasoned reply. Befuddle them with your mighty arguments, not with your venom and spite. Remember to be a good Dailytech citizen: Bile is meant for livers, not comments.

3) You might ponder the point that perhaps you aren't the "Font Of All Knowledge", and that others may have a better grasp of the situation than yourself. You may come to realise that this egocentric mindset of yours is not a healthy way in which to live. Open your mind to the possibilty that there might be questions for which you have no answers. For instance, "When will Nehelem be coming to the desktop?" This is clearly a question you cannot answer.

4) Anger is the enemy of rational thought. From a casual observation you appear to frustrate easily with the idiots who confront you on a daily basis. And when these idiots refuse to be educated by a superior intellect, such as yourself, this frustration clearly leads to anger. Studies have show that such anger control problems can lead to physical and psychological stress, not to mention the strain it places on the relationships you have with those around you. Perhaps a way to relieve the anger you feel is to expend it on an inanimate object.
If you are already following this advice and the inanimate object you are using is your computer keyboard, and hence your comment above and every other comment you have ever written on DailyTech, might I suggest you use something else such as a pillow or Jack Thompson.

5) Dealing with fools is trying at the best of times, but it is even more so when their fool comments seem to beset you on every page you view. The desire to set them right can at times be overwhelming, but it does nothing to help you lead a harmonious life.
Sometimes you just have to shake your head and endulge them their foolish fantasies, they are but children and should be treated as such. Do you yell and curse when a child speaks of fairies under their bed and ghosts in their cupboard? No, you understand that children need their imaginative worlds, it is what makes them children. Their suggestability makes them vulnerable to both the real and the imagined and they need the comfort and security that adults like yourself can give to them. You can be an adult here at DailyTech.

I hope you takes these hints in the friendly manner in which they were intended. My goal was not to embarrass, but to inform and help. I feel concern for all my fellow mankind, and it hurts me to see a man such as yourself straining under the weight of his massive intellect.

Please pass on these useful hints to Masher, as he too seems to suffer from the same sad afflictions as yourself. Perhaps the two of you could come together and form a Dailytech help group, and you can support each other every day in your interactions with us know-nothing idiots.

With kind regards, Adnoctum.


RE: Terminal Delays
By thetinyclam on 6/6/08, Rating: 0
RE: Terminal Delays
By Adnoctum on 6/7/2008 3:58:17 AM , Rating: 3
Hello Tiny Clam!

I understand exactly where you are coming from, and do not worry, I have not taken offence. Sadly I am not partial to pickles, sour or otherwise.

I graze over many technology sites, and for the most part I am a lurker and not a commenter. I have lurked here at DailyTech for many years.

It is MY opinion that SOME of the bloggers here are overly aggressive and abusive when it comes to dissenting opinions. I agree that they are allowed their opinions as well as their right to express them, but their position with their little "DT Blog" tags gives them a sense of authority on DailyTech whether it is real or imagined (the latter I think). I wish that sometimes they would be the bigger people and lead the healthy discussions here by example.

"Master Kenobi" could have been the adult, behaved in a reasonable manner and informed "Nosfe" that he was wrong and that Nehelem would be out this year. It wouldn't have mattered that he was wrong himself. But he chose abuse and started to throw some FUD around of his own. As "an avid DT reader" you must know that FUD is the enemy of the technology enthusiast.

Familiar patterns emerge here when the discussion turns to politics, the economy, and the environment ("Climate Change: Yay or Nay?"). Yelling and abuse is rife, and it is closed minds all around. Group moderation seems to have little effect.

As seen from the outside observer (I don't participate much remember), it seems to be where there is an Internet forum there is a pointless argument waiting to happen. What is it about the Internet that we lose all ability to behave in a reasonable manner? As a member of this current generation, what is the difficulty we seem to have with manners? Is rudeness a course you can take online? Is it compulsory to sign up? Given my own comments, I seem to have a natural ability of my own!

Just out of interest, what do "fat chicks" do at restaurants? That point missed me altogether. Do you have much experience of "fat chick" behaviour?

Thank-you for your link. Although the rants seem to be of little interest to me, I will keep it in mind for any future discussions I have here at DailyTech.
What do you suggest? Should I link from the comments here to my "rant" there, or should I hope that DailyTech readers of the relevant discussion just happen across them, probably through some form ESP or shared consciousness?
I don't live in the SF area, does that matter? In fact, I don't live in the United States, do you think Craigs List has an international rant section?

Yours with much affection (but none of it gay, so don't fly into a homophobic rage and beat me to death), Adnoctum.


RE: Terminal Delays
By 325hhee on 6/6/2008 12:38:52 PM , Rating: 2
Funny that Intel keeps losing documents... I say just take them to court even if they don't have their documents, just shows how shady Intel really is.

I'm almost to the point that I want to switch over to Intel, but their BS just keeps me from switching over, they have no ethics whatsoever. I'm still using my AMD Black Edition, and was almost tempted to go over to Intel, because yes, their chips are better these days. It's a good thing I keep seeing these to remind myself, if AMD goes out of business, we'd never have dual cores, or quads, we'll still be paying 1k for a CPU, we'll never see 64bit OS, and other stuff that Intel procrastinates on.

Remember the days when Intel said speed is where everything is, and an AMD at 1.4 gig could out perform a 2 gig Intel. Without AMD, we'd be stuck with their BS.

I'm hoping the 4800 will deliver and the Puma with external graphics card capability will push out Intel laptops. AMD needs a boost, this year might bring them back, cross your fingers.


RE: Terminal Delays
By Adonlude on 6/6/08, Rating: -1
RE: Terminal Delays
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/6/2008 5:43:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
By all means keep using your AMD. I hope you only use computers for internet and word processing though. Plan on doing anything CPU worthy then you best buy an Intel part.
That's total and utter bullshit, quit spreading FUD.


RE: Terminal Delays
By amanojaku on 6/6/2008 12:39:08 PM , Rating: 2
Intel definitely abused its position as market leader, but let's be honest and say that AMD f'd up, too. I'm an AMD fanboy and I haven't seen anything worth jumping up and down about in four years. Yeah, the CPUs are about $100 less than Intel's, but so what? $100 is nothing to someone looking to build a box with decent performance that will last a few years.


RE: Terminal Delays
By DASQ on 6/6/2008 1:04:34 PM , Rating: 2
They didn't INTENTIONALLY screw up though.


RE: Terminal Delays
By stryfe on 6/6/2008 5:41:30 PM , Rating: 2
My friend didn't intentionally kill his cat when he stepped on it's back while lay in a pile of laundry. The cat's still dead...


RE: Terminal Delays
By Mitch101 on 6/8/2008 7:48:44 PM , Rating: 2
It might be Nahalem inside parked right next to a pair or Radeon 4870's. But it surely wont be Nehalem inside with onboard intel graphics chips as a gaming rig.


RE: Terminal Delays
By stryfe on 6/10/2008 10:37:39 PM , Rating: 2
Who's post did you think you were replying too????