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The Indian space agency announced it will work with Russia to help redesign the Soyuz for future Indian space missions

The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) will work alongside the Russian Space Agency to share technology and hardware for a new Indian space mission.  Specifically, India plans to redesign the Russian Soyuz space capsule for its own manned mission launches in the future.

The Soyuz has been used since 1967, with Russian engineers periodically upgrading it over the years to ensure it's still safe for manned missions.  The Soyuz has been used to ferry astronauts from the International Space Station (ISS) back to Earth.

Ties between the two countries continues to strengthen, as an Indian astronaut is scheduled to blast into orbit on a Russian spacecraft by 2013, prior to the launch of the ISRO manned launch in 2014 or 2015.

"We have laid our plans and of course manned missions are in our plan and program," ISRO spokesperson S. Satish told Indian media.  "May be manned mission for the government approval, comes immediately, around 2014 or 2015, will be the targeted launch date.

Only the United States, Russia, China, Japan and the ESA have been able to launch their own moon missions, with each nation jockeying for position in a new generation of an unofficial space race.

The larger space nations continue to work with smaller, developing nations to help them reach their own goals.  Russia has worked with the majority of current space nations, and will be responsible for ferrying U.S. astronauts into space once the current generation of space shuttles is retired on 2010.


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Great news
By wordsworm on 12/17/2008 10:04:54 AM , Rating: 2
Now the international space station is one step closer to getting its own Quickie Mart. And maybe the next time the USA gets to the moon, they can get a slushie.




RE: Great news
By Bubbacub on 12/17/2008 10:20:58 AM , Rating: 4
i was about to say that the next time the usa gets to the moon the US astronaut may be too obese to get out of the landing module. then i realised how bigoted and unpleasant that comment could be and decided not to post it.


RE: Great news
By theapparition on 12/17/2008 10:42:12 AM , Rating: 1
It wasn't bigoted and unpleasant, just plain stupid.

US Astronauts are the most trained physically fit people on the planet. There's a reason that Russia sends its Cosmonauts over to Houston.


RE: Great news
By oab on 12/17/2008 10:48:29 AM , Rating: 2
THE most physically fit people on the planet?

The Russians also didn't have a lot of money for a while there ....


RE: Great news
By Bubbacub on 12/17/2008 10:52:53 AM , Rating: 2
how is implying that indian astronauts are only welcome in space so that they can serve drinks to american astronauts not a bigoted and unpleasant thing to say?it

my post was as bigoted because it implied that american astronauts are fat because the USA has an obesity problem (even though this is obviously untrue).


RE: Great news
By theapparition on 12/17/2008 11:44:08 AM , Rating: 2
Or another way to look at it is that many Indians are industrious and entrepreneurial and will commercialize space travel long before anyone else. Isn't that a compliment?

Yours wasn't as clever.


RE: Great news
By Bubbacub on 12/17/2008 1:02:11 PM , Rating: 2
back handed compliments like yours can be confusing over the internet. leave them to real life


RE: Great news
By wordsworm on 12/17/2008 8:24:44 PM , Rating: 2
Nice to know the subtlety wasn't lost on everyone. I don't expect the Indians to beat China, but I do expect them to beat the US. Maybe, though, America's odds are improved with a much better president in control. Though, I fear, he may end up like another great president - JFK.


RE: Great news
By Bubbacub on 12/18/2008 4:51:25 PM , Rating: 2
it was lost on everyone. which is why it helps to be clearer or come out like you have to explain your true position. otherwise you can be mistaken for a racist bigot, which would be a great injustice


RE: Great news
By wordsworm on 12/18/2008 11:10:51 PM , Rating: 2
theapparation got the twist of the joke. You, as an individual, do not constitute 'everyone.' Even the majority!=everyone.

While it behooves most journalists to write for those who are at a middle school level of reading comprehension so that most folks can understand it, I am not a journalist and therefore it behooves me not.


On another note ...
By Spinne on 12/17/2008 12:46:42 PM , Rating: 2
Given that it is still impossible to efficiently launch people into space, the manned exploration of space is pointless UNLESS it results in a. the popularization of physics and astrophysical science in the country and b.the development of new technology. Given that current technology is sufficient for the inefficient launching of people into space and that further developments in both miniaturization and chemical rocket engine technology will not result in a significant increment in humanity's space exploration capacity, it can only be hoped that this will result in more Indians getting into the sciences and mathematics. Ideally it will also trigger races with other countries resulting in more people from those countries getting into the sciences as well.
In particular, I think that the following fields require more attention -
Computational Biophysics: Computing technology is finally reaching the point where useful simulations of large molecules can be performed. Unfortunately, the field is still under-saturated given how much potential for good research the area has.
Neutrino Astrophysics: The problem of detecting the cosmic neutrino background remains unsolved and will remain unsolved for the foreseeable future thanks to a particularly demanding set of detector requirements. Both chemical and Cherenkov detectors are unsuitable and there is no third technique capable of detecting the tiny CNB flux that we expect from the early Universe. However, astrophysical neutrinos should become detectable when ICECUBE goes online in a year or so. Other neutrino telescopes are needed though. Given how much good science we can do with astrophysical neutrinos, we need more people.
Hopefully India will use its strongly developing economy to fund some research in these two fields. Ultimately, the hope is that the glamor of space travel may draw more kids into studying science.




RE: On another note ...
By RoberTx on 12/17/2008 8:03:33 PM , Rating: 2
Then there is the problem with the number of buns per hotdog, they don't match up.


RE: On another note ...
By Spinne on 12/18/2008 1:37:16 AM , Rating: 2
Ahem... cough...cough... yea! We're working on that one too! ;-)


RE: On another note ...
By wordsworm on 12/17/2008 8:40:02 PM , Rating: 2
I think all of the technologies usually come together when it comes to space exploration. It's not just about chemical rocketry. The experiments also try to figure out how biology manages in space. It's basically the world's most expensive science lab.

I believe that the robotics engineering that Japan is on top of may very well come into play when it is time for nations to start trying to develop the moon's mineral and H3 deposits. As much as people poke fun at the hippies trying to potentially stop moon pollution, the fact is that hippies won't be able to do anything about it in the near future. Sure, you can sit in front of a bulldozer or chain yourself to an old growth tree, but how do you see them getting to the moon to do something similar? While I believe it's a ways off, I can't see why in the next 100 years we can't have a maglev launcher on the moon bombarding us with resources, making some investors horribly rich.

In any case, before we can get around to actually doing that, we'll have to keep crawling, cm by cm, until we're ready to settle the moon.

As someone else noted, my sleight wasn't so much against Indians as it has been what feels like a sluggish effort behind the American space program. I'm sure Obama would love to throw resources at it like it's confetti. But I suspect he'll first address the more pressing, domestic issues first to try to repair all the damage that Bush caused. I would consider it to be like going on a 5 star vacation when you're drowning in debt.


RE: On another note ...
By Spinne on 12/18/2008 1:48:10 AM , Rating: 2
We really don't have a clue about burning tritium right now. ITER and the National Ignition Facility seem to be our best bets. In any case, it's cheap and easy enough to make tritium here on the Earth in the short term. I'm sorry but its just unjustifiable, at this stage, to start planning on colonizing the moon. Suppose ITER manages to get a H3 cycle going? Well you can't just turn off regular heavy-water based fission reactors the next day because they cost money to build and will repay their costs to the companies that operate them over a pre-designated period. So these companies are going to keep running them for at least some time on the same order of magnitude as the projected time, EVEN if we find out how to fuse stuff tomorrow. So we generate H3 using these reactors for the next decade or so while we then plan out how we're going to get H3 from the moon back to the Earth. Figuring out how to do that today is like planning out your vacation before your teacher has handed your grades back to you - you don't yet know if you should go yipeee or run and hide from your parents!


RE: On another note ...
By wordsworm on 12/18/2008 8:52:51 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Figuring out how to do that today is like planning out your vacation before your teacher has handed your grades back to you - you don't yet know if you should go yipeee or run and hide from your parents!


hmmm... if you don't know how well you did on a test, that's probably a sign that you didn't do very well at all.

It's true that we won't know what will be available in 100 years. Nonetheless, it's probably not too far fetched to think that H3 power plants whose fuel comes from the moon will be in operation. The physicists seem to be saying that it's possible.

To create a mining site on the moon is probably roughly within the same time line. I have no doubt but that China wants the moon really, really badly. India and Japan also seem to be vying for it. Both India and China have a strong history of scientific innovation throughout the last few thousand years. There's no reason to doubt that they may be the ones to lead us to interplanetary development.


$$$$$
By RoberTx on 12/17/2008 7:59:23 PM , Rating: 2
The Russians are fast running out of cash. Their economy is based almost exclusively on petroleum and natural gas. I see this fizzling out or lasting well beyond India's ability to put up with tacky Russian workmanship and shady business practices. The Indians are not to pleased with the Russian military equipment they have already bought from them but they are stuck with it.




RE: $$$$$
By wordsworm on 12/18/2008 11:28:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
tacky Russian workmanship


I can't imagine it would be any worse than the submarines that Canada got from the British Navy awhile back.


"still safe"
By oab on 12/17/2008 10:49:22 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
still safe for manned missions


I found it amusing that they upgrade it to make suer it is "still safe" as if it was unsafe before when it was originally built.




Missed something?
By jithvk on 12/18/2008 12:08:13 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Only the United States, Russia, China, Japan and the ESA have been able to launch their own moon missions, with each nation jockeying for position in a new generation of an unofficial space race.


Where is India in the list?? Forgot Chandrayan-1 this fast?




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