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Dev Team has found an exploit for iOS 4.1

When the iPhone 4 and iOS 4.0 was released, the Dev Team was able to relatively easily develop a browser-based jailbreak using The jailbreak made use of an vulnerability in the way that Mobile Safari handled PDF documents.

Now, just hours after the official iOS 4.1 ipsw was posted to Apple's servers, the Dev Team has discovered a bootrom exploit that will used in the iOS 4.1 jailbreak. The Dev Team's Musclenerd tweeted, "Crazy timing that @pod2g got latest exploit just as 4.1 went public (lots of work left…keep away from 4.1 for now!)."

According to Redmond Pie, this exploit won't be something that Apple will be able to patch as quickly as the previous PDF exploit:

Also, the best thing about a low-level bootrom exploit is that Apple wont be able to patch it simply by releasing a new firmware update. Instead, it will require Apple to release a revised hardware version of iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, iPad and the iPod touches with new bootroms in order to patch the bootrom exploit.

This is good news for iPhone 4 users that want the fixes included in the iOS 4.1 update (proximity sensor, Bluetooth connection issues), while at the same time providing access to the wealth of "underground apps" and customizations that can be had with unauthorized app stores like Cydia.

You'll just have to be patient as the Dev Team works its magic to complete work on the iOS 4.1 jailbreak.

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By whoisnader on 9/8/2010 9:27:37 PM , Rating: 1
I am growing tired of hearing about the justification for Jail Breaking your iPhone.

I use to be indifferent about it until I began developing on the platform and hope to soon make an income from it. Just the other day, this clown shows up at my desk at work bragging to everyone around him how he has Jail Broken his phone and how everyone else should do it. Then when he showed us his phone, it was packed to the rafters with pirated software. Software that costs anywhere from $1 to $10.

This clown spends more money at the Cafe in the building and has no issues paying for the $4 coffee's and shouting his mates but cannot muster up the $1 to pay for software.

On top of all this, he actually couldn't show any of us how he had benefited from Jail Breaking his phone, other than all the software he had stolen.

I just wonder how many people are using Jail Breaks for legitimate reasons.

By lolmuly on 9/8/2010 9:41:11 PM , Rating: 3
I think the issue i have with the piracy argument is this:

If you were to buy a hammer, does the manufacturer have the right to tell you what brand of nails you can use it with?

If you were to buy a computer, does the manufacturer have the right to tell you that you can only run windows on it?

If you buy any piece of hardware, you should have the freedom to run the software of your choosing, if you choose to break the law that is your choice, but there needs to be a separation of hardware and software. Hardware manufacturers shouldn't have the right to tell you what software to use, and software manufacturers shouldn't have the right to tell you what hardware to use.

By whoisnader on 9/9/2010 12:15:32 AM , Rating: 2
That is a valid argument and I support it.

I just wonder if the majority are Jail Breaking in support of your argument, or like the clown I described, Jail Breaking to pirate software. I am tipping the majority are pirating and using your valid argument as justification.

P.S. I didn't think my post was that upsetting to rate me down.

By randomly on 9/9/2010 11:16:06 AM , Rating: 2
I have no idea how many people are jailbreaking in order to pirate software. Personally I do it to have access to features and apps that apple doesn't allow. With only a very few exceptions I feel that apps are fairly priced and I have no problem paying for them and supporting the developer community. If my perceived value for the app is less than the price, I just don't buy it or use it.

Not paying for apps is like deporting your best and brightest students out of the country so you can save on food and housing costs. Financially advantageous in the short term, devastating to the economy in the long term.

It's sad that so many can't think past themselves and see the broader and long term implications of their actions.

By omnicronx on 9/9/2010 1:06:17 PM , Rating: 3
I'm not going to lie, I've jailbroken my iPad and I have pirated software.. That being said, I use it to trial said software, and if I like it, I buy it. If I don't like it, I remove it from my iPad (what would i keep something I don't need/want).

Someone before gave an example a guy willing to pay for a coffee, but not a $1 piece of software. Thats not really a fair comparison in all situations. I know what I'm going to get with my $4 coffee, sugary goodness that will keep me awake for a few hours.

I don't know what I'm going to get with most software on the Appstore, and I've been burned far too many times, its either I trial it first, or I don't buy it at all.

If that makes me a bad person.. well then.. I guess I'm a bad person ;)

By nybrian5 on 9/9/2010 11:20:48 PM , Rating: 2
I've bought too many $1 apps that suck or crash. Every app should have a 10 day trial period and after that, pay for the license.(Just like it's done with the Rock App store) It's kind of a no-brainer. Plus, jailbreaking expands the power and control of the iPhone. Adding content to the lock screen, live info on the weather icon, settings short-cuts and auto-closing folders when an app is opened. My list of jailbroken features screams of common sense.

By lolmuly on 9/10/2010 6:05:39 AM , Rating: 2
Pirates are Pirates

Rights are Rights

just because a right makes it easier for a pirate, doesn't mean we take the right away.

just because a pirate argues in favor of a right, doesn't make the right any less just.

when somebody breaks a law they ALWAYS, try and justify it. No matter the law, no matter the justification, it doesn't change the argument.

Pirates are Pirates

Rights are Rights

By SunAngel on 9/9/2010 12:27:01 AM , Rating: 1
Okay. How about this.

You need an account to post on DailyTech. Do they have a right to make you open an account to post free speech?

DailyTech does not let you edit your commments. Do they have a right to keep you from changing your word?

DailyTech has a rating system that singles-out your comment if others don't like it. Do they have a right to highlight unpopular comments only not other comments?

DailyTech attempts censorship, but do they turn away accounts if it's known the user has accounts at other websites?

Some people that post on DailyTech play by DailyTech's rules, yet find it difficult to accept the rules that others ask them to play by.

You created your account on DailyTech. You have the the right to adjust your account the way you like it. As with jailbreaking, I don't think there is a law against hacking a website and editing your own personal information. The account is for your benefit not the benefit of DailyTech.

Yet, your quick to point out ownership of something but accept the rules of some but ignore others. Hypocracy and hate, in your terms, are nearly indistinguishable. Hating Apple for something is wishes to maintain tight control over is nothing different than you accepting DailyTech's term of service and abiding by them.

Yes you can pick and chose whom you dislike, but you must also live with your choices. When you exclude yourself from the masses and decide free-reign is more enjoyable that is your right. Don't blame the world because you chose a different path and that path is hard.

By whoisnader on 9/9/2010 12:35:16 AM , Rating: 2
Do you take issue with what I posted or Dailytech and their commenting system?

By Da W on 9/9/2010 6:49:17 AM , Rating: 3
You are flushing the apple model down the toilet. The only problem is that Apple is both an hardware and software company. They ultimately have the right to sell you both products in a single (overpriced) package, just like printers are sold with their specific ink cartridge and cable companies sell you their set-top box. I'm not saying it's ok.

However, anti-trust laws makes it illegal to bundle if there is a competiting product (would could port android on an iphone) and if Apple had a monopoly on the market, or close to it. The only reason microsoft got finned in Europe was because they had 90%+ of the market.

Where i have a problem, it's when a software company tries to prevent you to resell a used videogame. Now that's a load of $/%&?*()*&?$%.

By lolmuly on 9/10/2010 5:59:50 AM , Rating: 2
see that's where I have an issue, they shouldn't be considered a monopoly for producing both software and hardware, (i mean a video card manufacturer shouldn't be sued for producing their own drivers right?) but in the same light they shouldn't have the right to dictate what software you use on their hardware, and what hardware you use on their software.

unfortunately it seems they do currently have that right, but we need to draw a definitive legal line between software and hardware.

By PrinceGaz on 9/8/2010 9:46:59 PM , Rating: 2
WifiTrak, iXpectrum

WifiTrak used to be sold in the AppStore until Apple decided that apps which display details (channel, signal strength, encyption type) of WiFi signals would no longer be allowed, so it and all similar apps have been removed and can only be obtained by jailbreaking (unless you kept hold of the originally downloaded .ipa of it, though it is likely to stop working with later iOS versions anyway).

iXpectrum is a superb emulator for the iPhone and iTouch, but Apple doesn't like emulators either if they can be used to run any software the machine they are emulating could run.

Both are stupid restrictions, and both, along with the likes of SBSettings which just makes it work better, are very good reasons for jailbreaking.

By whoisnader on 9/9/2010 12:18:43 AM , Rating: 2
I was actually one of those that purchased WinTrak and never knew why it disappeared from my installed apps and was never able to re-install it. Thanks for the info.

Like the guy above, a very valid argument, but I wounder how many out there are Jail Breaking for the right reasons and how many are hiding behind the reasons you give as they Pirate their $1 apps.

By theArchMichael on 9/9/2010 12:19:28 AM , Rating: 3
nuff said

By bfellow on 9/9/2010 9:47:59 AM , Rating: 2
Justin Long was showing off a jailbroken iPhone on the Jimmy Kimmel show.

By The0ne on 9/9/2010 1:40:58 PM , Rating: 2
Now that you're a developer welcome to the other side of the pirate world. There are millions of pirate morons like that and there's absolutely nothing you can do about them. Of those millions there are tons more stupider and more ignorant.

There are very few people that will want products to be "open" for legit reasons but they are probably the 0.0000001% of the entire pirate population. I should know this pretty well as I've been around the "scene" for over 30 years lol

By HrilL on 9/9/2010 4:34:50 PM , Rating: 2
I'm jail broken. I have no pirated apps. I've bought apps of the Rock store as well. I wanted the freedom to install what I want without restrictions. Custom UI, tethering, no wifi only restrictions. Really it came down to wanting to run SIP on my phone but all the apple store ones were wifi only and didn't support 3G so I get one that did support 3g and it turned out to be a better app anyway. I guess they do support 3g sip calls now but not when I wanted to do it.

By Renski on 9/13/2010 6:00:51 PM , Rating: 2
The iPhones I have Jailbroke were to get the phone unlocked to work on TMobile which is my service provider or for interenational use. Not one pirated software on it. Most of what I had on it was from Cydia for customization and some nifty tools.

I eventually got rid of it well overpriced and switched to an Android device w/c works on 3G. Much faster OS and a better phone imho.

By monstergroup on 9/8/2010 6:44:34 PM , Rating: 2
Now, just hours after the official iOS 4.1 ipsw was posted to Apple's servers, the Dev Team has discovered a bootrom exploit that will used in the iOS 4.1 jailbreak.

RE: =\
By PrinceGaz on 9/8/2010 10:00:24 PM , Rating: 1
It would be more accurate for the article to have reported

"Now, just hours after the official iOS 4.1 ipsw was posted to Apple's servers, the Dev Team has released the bootrom exploit they have been aware of for many months, but which they chose not to make public in order to maximise the length of time it would allow newly manufactured Apple iDevices to be jailbroken."

Ways of jailbreaking aren't easy to come by, each is precious, and must be released wisely otherwise Apple will block them all quite quickly, therefore the reason this has been held back until 4.1 is final.

RE: =\
By CZroe on 9/9/2010 1:19:31 AM , Rating: 2
Are you calling Musclenerd/the Dev Team liars? ;)

Also, the exploit has NOT been released. They specifically said that there is much more work to be done and releasing it now before the jailbreak is ready would only serve to allow Apple to block it sooned with a hardware revision. As it is (private), they can share it with anyone they believe could do something good with it, so it will remain that way unless some trusted idiot leaks it or discovers it on their own without keeping it close to their chest.

Dev Team
By RugMuch on 9/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: Dev Team
By Brandon Hill on 9/8/2010 5:03:57 PM , Rating: 2
Damn, that was fast!
By SunAngel on 9/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: Damn, that was fast!
By RugMuch on 9/8/2010 5:09:55 PM , Rating: 4
Someone has stock in apple.

That was your own fault.

RE: Damn, that was fast!
By TSS on 9/8/2010 5:16:13 PM , Rating: 2
you really think the asterisks will keep you from beeing downrated? You can't fool the internet, yknow.

I will give you points for beeing a funny troll though. i.e. apple holding just about the largest market share in their phone segment and your telling "the hackers" to go pick on somebody with half, a quarter and none of that market share in size.

But i agree, they should pick on somebody smaller. The macbook market, then?

RE: Damn, that was fast!
By Waytofunny on 9/8/2010 5:46:40 PM , Rating: 2
Sunangel Like you didn't see it coming! Do I really need to explain why they picked on Apple. iPhone jailbreaking is the same reason people climb mountains cause it's there! Give a human a challenge and tell him he can't do it, that's when we are at are best. I believe that's what apple did wrong!! I didn't borrow the iPhone from Steve, I bought it, it's mine I'll do what I want with it!!!

P.S your going to shorten your life with so much anger. there's class for that. Good luck

RE: Damn, that was fast!
By ComfyNumb on 9/8/2010 6:02:04 PM , Rating: 1
I agree with your whole post!! My life is shortened damn it... AN People will say F-YOU when you tell em not to do something.. I say to ye people find better things to do wit ye free time... The Iphone is shiat!!

RE: Damn, that was fast!
By frobizzle on 9/8/2010 5:58:45 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like Reader1 or Pirks created a new handle!

RE: Damn, that was fast!
By Camikazi on 9/8/2010 7:58:15 PM , Rating: 1
They are picking on the big guys and winning, why would they go pick on the small guys? Don't kid yourself, Apple is as bad or worse then MS or Google, they are not the innocent little guy, they are a giant and valid target that honestly, could be taken down a bit. I support the Dev Team, now Apple needs to learn to respond quickly and efficiently to things like this, something they have NEVER done before or been able to do before, adapt or die, it's Apples turn.

RE: Damn, that was fast!
By chagrinnin on 9/8/2010 10:59:03 PM , Rating: 3
huh,...your name backwards is leg-n-anus. :P

RE: Damn, that was fast!
By SunAngel on 9/9/2010 12:17:23 PM , Rating: 2

IDK Fook Ipron
By ComfyNumb on 9/8/10, Rating: -1
RE: IDK Fook Ipron
By ComfyNumb on 9/8/10, Rating: 0
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