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2012 Hyundai Elantra Touring

2012 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid
Hyundai i30 (aka Elantra Touring) looks to undercut Toyota's new Prius Plug-in

It's no secret that many companies are placing a huge target on Toyota's back. Toyota's Prius has become the poster child for the hybrid car movement and plenty of manufacturers have attempted to mimic its success. Honda has largely failed with it Insight and CR-Z in the United States, while Ford has had some success with its Fusion Hybrid and Escape Hybrid.
 
Hyundai is taking direct aim at Toyota's new Prius Plug-in with an upcoming plug-in hybrid version of the new i30 (it's called the Elantra Touring here in the United States). The Prius was designed from the onset to be a hybrid vehicle, and achieves 50 mpg combined in hybrid mode. The Prius Plug-in can also travel up to 14 miles on battery power alone.
 
Hyundai's Elantra Touring Plug-in likely won't be able to match Toyota's lofty fuel economy numbers or its relatively meager battery-only range, but it will undercut Toyota's $32,760 price tag according to Auto, Motor und Sport.
 
Hyundai first jumped on the hybrid bandwagon with the Sonata Hybrid in the United States earlier this year. Unfortunately for Hyundai, the Sonata Hybrid has been panned by automotive publications for not offering enough of a fuel economy boost over standard Sonata. Consumers Reports even went so far as to not recommend the vehicle:
 
The Sonata Hybrid scored a disappointing 69, a full 20 points below the previously-tested and more popular conventional Sonata GLS…
 
Although the Sonata Hybrid gets better fuel economy than its non-hybrid doppelganger, the trade-offs in driveability, refinement, and braking performance are too high. The car stumbles and hesitates as it makes the transition from electric to gas power and both handling and braking are less capable.
 
Hopefully, Hyundai aims higher with the plug-in hybrid version of the Elantra Touring.

Sources: Auto Motor und Sport, Inside Line, Consumer Reports



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wow
By GulWestfale on 10/10/2011 9:24:00 AM , Rating: 5
hyundai's designs really look fantastic these days. every new model looks better than the last. i wonder what the next genesis coupe will look like? that must be a real stunner. thumbs up to hyundai!




RE: wow
By mellomonk on 10/10/2011 1:10:44 PM , Rating: 2
The coupe is getting 'refreshed' next year. It has been seen in seen in spyshots. Largely the same just tweaked to take on some of the 'fluidic' styling cues. Some question of the coupes future due to lack of sales.


RE: wow
By FITCamaro on 10/11/2011 7:51:21 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah it must take a lot of work to so effectively copy every other automakers designs.

And the Genesis only looks good from afar. Up close you can tell what a cheap piece of shit it is.


RE: wow
By Spuke on 10/12/2011 11:33:36 PM , Rating: 2
Ok, I'll bite. What cars on the market look like these new Hyundai's? Moving on, if that's what the Elantra Hybrid will look like, wow, is all I can say.


Not a Prius competitor
By corduroygt on 10/10/2011 1:10:49 PM , Rating: 1
Can't match or come close to Prius EPA numbers or interior space. At best it'll be a competitor to Civic Hybrid, Focus Hybrid, Jetta TDI, etc.




Hybrids
By Qapa on 10/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: Hybrids
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/10/2011 11:55:42 AM , Rating: 2
The Prius has been BS?

Please, explain...


RE: Hybrids
By Dr of crap on 10/10/2011 12:17:55 PM , Rating: 1
Ummm, the Volt is BS.
Way overpriced and you get nothing in return other than an overpriced car.


RE: Hybrids
By Roy2001 on 10/10/2011 1:59:23 PM , Rating: 3
I won't call Volt a BS, but price is TOO high, I would rather get a Prius, either regular one or new model.


RE: Hybrids
By alphadogg on 10/10/2011 12:27:06 PM , Rating: 2
BTW, the use of the word "sustainability" is an indicator we have an idiot (or an astroturfer using buzzword gobbledygook). "Sustainability" is itself BS, in that it can mean anything to anyone, like "synergy".


RE: Hybrids
By The0ne on 10/10/2011 1:53:21 PM , Rating: 2
It is used incorrectly in the sentence. In a manufacturing environment it makes perfect sense.


RE: Hybrids
By FITCamaro on 10/11/2011 7:54:41 AM , Rating: 2
There's nothing "sustainable" about hybrids over regular cars. You're just trading one limited resource for many others. Instead of oil its the materials required to make lithium batteries.


RE: Hybrids
By ssnova703 on 10/10/2011 1:03:32 PM , Rating: 2
I would argue the opposite, the Volt is largely hype, while other hybrids are more...practical(I'll refrain from the use of "sustainable").

Consumer Reports recently did a test on the cost of "real MPG" of hybrids running on gas motors a lone, to my surprise the Prius topped out, it was more efficient then the Volt, I do not remember the exact specs but look for it yourself.


RE: Hybrids
By Solandri on 10/10/2011 2:47:33 PM , Rating: 2
I looked it up to repost here since most people probably don't have a Consumer Reports account. Your description only covers the fringe case of their findings.
quote:
The Volt is amazingly inexpensive to run on short trips, but when the trips reach 70 miles and the gas engine kicks in, traditional hybrids catch up. This chart compares the Volt’s costs with those of hybrids and the conventional Hyundai Elantra (our Top Pick small car) for differentlength trips. Calculations use CR overall mpg. We assume a 35-mile electric range, with no stops for recharging, followed by premium gas use for the Volt. Electric costs are 11 cents per kWh (the national average). Gasoline costs were calculated using $3.80 for regular and $4 for premium.

Car - Price - cents/mile - 30 mile trip cost - 70 mile - 90 mile
Volt - $43,700 - 3.75 elec/13.79 gas - $1.33 - $6.14 - $8.90
Prius - $26,750 - 8.64 - $2.59 - $6.05 - $7.77
Civic - $24,800 - 9.50 - $2.85 - $6.65 - $8.55
Elantra - $18,445 - 13.10 - $3.93 - $9.17 - $11.79

Volt - 2.93 miles/kWh for 35 miles, then 29 mpg
Prius - 44 mpg
Civic - 40 mpg
Elantra - 29 mpg

Which isn't really that surprising. The whole point of the Volt (if you can stomach its purchase price) is to excel at short-length daily commutes.


RE: Hybrids
By ssnova703 on 10/10/2011 3:22:02 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks for taking the effort of posting the stats.

The whole point is, as expensive/overpriced as the Volt is, to the end user it's still not as practical, and to call all hybrids BS while blindly praising the Volt as all superior is just non-sense.


RE: Hybrids
By alphadogg on 10/10/2011 4:17:53 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, the average daily mileage in the US is about 30-40 miles, or 10-20 miles per trip.

However, the price differential has to be calculated into the ROI. The Volt is much more expensive. You can pay for a lot of gas with $17K.


RE: Hybrids
By Keeir on 10/10/2011 4:37:02 PM , Rating: 2
What must be remembered when evaluating Volt, Hybrids, Diesel, etc is two things

1.) Driving Length
2.) Driving Habits

For instance, if one drives ~30 miles a day (~11,000 miles)

Volt= 3942 kWh = 433.6 dollars (315 for me)
Prius= 219 Gallon = 821 dollars
Elantra= 329 Gallon = 1,234 dollars

Or if like me you drive ~60 miles a day with the opportunity to get a full charge at 30 miles (for free)

Volt = 7884 kWh = 867 dollars (315 for me)
Prius = 438 Gallon = 1642 dollars
Elantra = 658 Gallon = 2468 dollars

For these customers, Volt can make sense and is not entirely hype related.

My real problem with the Volt is the mechanical linkage between the ICE and the Wheels at high rates of speed. If the Volt did not have that connection, the Volt -would- be superior to most hybrids in that the Volt be both more simple in operation and more flexible. IE, a Volt platform could have taken a Fuel Cell Swap, Diesel Engine Swap, BioFuels, Liquid Hydrogen, essentially anything that produced electricity when coupled with generator. Most hybrids on the other hand are chained to E10 Regular Gasoline and can not really sustain a change without re-engineering the entire system from the ground up. (Though maybe GM has flexfuel hybrids?)

The Volt is also significantly more flexible than electric cars in both having a range extender, and in its treatment of the battery.

Consider that the Volt gets "only" 35 miles from a 16 kWh battery (2.18) whereas the Leaf gets 73 from 24 kWh (3.04). The Volt uses a much better margin and battery cooling systems to extend battery life in comparison to the BEVs on the market.


RE: Hybrids
By FredEx on 10/11/2011 11:46:32 AM , Rating: 2
Did I read correctly somewhere that the total range on a tank of gas and electric for the Volt blows others away? That it can go over twice as far as something like a Prius. What I mean is being able to take a 700+ mile trip with no need to stop on the way. That convenience is worth a lot to me. When I go on some trips I get in to some areas where you have to go well out of your way to get gas, so total range is very important to me.

I believe (my opinion) the Volt will get better with minor changes, where the Prius design has reached its limits without a total redo.


RE: Hybrids
By Keeir on 10/12/2011 7:44:53 PM , Rating: 2
In response to this,
no... the max range of a Volt is probably around ~400-450 miles.

If you really want a super long running car, something like the VW Passat TDI is probably a place to look. The EPA HWY Range on the Passat is ~795 miles. Potentially since Diesel's often outperform thier EPA HWY numbers when driven ~65 mph, you could probably get close to 1000 miles on 1 tank. Outside of that, I believe the Camry Hyrbid or Focus Hybrid also get really long range on tanks due to using the non-hybrid gas tanks.


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