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One lawmaker seeks to repeal ban on Internet gambling claiming the rules are a burden on financial institutions

The internet is used for all sorts of activities. Many people make their living off the internet in the form of online sales or marketing. Even more users go to the internet for keeping in touch with friends, shopping, and playing games.

Before 2006, many internet users also went online for gambling rather than travel to the few states in America where gambling is legal. In 2006, a bill was passed by Congress and then signed into law by then president Bush. The law made internet gambling illegal in America and imposed severe penalties on those who profited from online gambling including companies that simply ran ads promoting gambling.

The move forced many European companies who specialize in online gambling out of the lucrative U.S. market including firms like PartyGaming and 888.com, which are publically traded companies in Europe. One U.S. lawmaker is looking to get the ban on online gambling repealed claiming that the ban has hurt trade ties with the European Union and America.

A spokesman for the House of Representatives Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank said, "The bill introduction should happen in the next month. Mr. Frank will bring back legislation to repeal the UIGEA (Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act)."

Not all U.S. lawmakers want the ban on internet gambling to be lifted. Lawmakers that support the ban say that offshore gambling sites take billions of dollars in tax revenue out of the economy in America and that the online gambling sites act as a vehicle for money laundering.

In addition to banning online gambling, the law passed in 2006 also banned any company from knowingly accepting payments connected to internet gambling. Another reason cited by Frank for trying to get the ban lifted is that the rules burden the financial industry at a time when the economy is already in crisis.

Companies that pulled out of the U.S. market after the ban was imposed still face possible criminal prosecution for the activities before the ban was passed. One of the founders of PartyGaming, Anurag Dikshit, pled guilty to internet gambling charges, agreed to pay $300 million in fines, and could still face jail time after agreeing to a deferred sentencing arrangement.

EU officials claim that the U.S. put pressure on Dikshit to make a deal, and the pressure showed that the U.S. Justice Department has crossed a line in prosecution of gambling cases. An industry petition has lead the European Commission to begin a formal investigation into whether the U.S. was singling out EU companies for enforcement while letting U.S. based online gambling firms operate.

Reuters reports that sources close to the investigation say that the report is expected to recommend action by the World Trade Organization on Internet Gambling. The report would allegedly be used as leverage in negotiating a solution with the U.S. on the ban. In 2006, Frank advised the Bush administration against signing the bill banning online gambling into law. The ban has reportedly cost foreign online gambling sites billions in revenue after forcing them out of the U.S. market.



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LOL
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/23/2009 12:08:02 PM , Rating: 5
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One of the founders of PartyGaming, Anurag Dikshit


Is that for real? On a rag... dick shit? Priceless!!




RE: LOL
By abraxas1 on 2/23/2009 1:04:30 PM , Rating: 5
Hmmm, think I need to login to WoW and make a new character.


RE: LOL
By acase on 2/23/2009 2:18:53 PM , Rating: 3
Haha, yah I remember nothing of the article after reading that.

I can imagine a role call:

"Dikshit, Anurag...Dikshit, Anurag...has anyone seen Dikshit, Anurag?"


RE: LOL
By AvidDailyTechie on 2/23/2009 7:08:17 PM , Rating: 2
that's priceless...

I'd never have seen it (don't know if that's good or bad).


RE: LOL
By Chocobollz on 2/24/2009 1:08:20 AM , Rating: 2
What makes it more shocking is that "Anu" in Indonesian means "D1ck"!! Damn, I started to think that his parent are doing it on purpose.. LOL


UIGEA
By Xponential on 2/23/2009 2:20:23 PM , Rating: 3
The UIGEA really screwed over people who play poker for a living such as myself. I really hoped it gets repealed or at the very least changed to exclude poker. Poker does not deserve to be lumped together in the same group as slots, keno, and every other REAL gambling game out there.




RE: UIGEA
By odessit740 on 2/23/2009 2:44:03 PM , Rating: 3
While I agree that poker should not be lumped together with other forms of gambling where the expected value is negative from the start, IT IS gambling. It's as real as it gets.

I wish it was repelled too because when the state runs a lottery, then its fine, that kind of gambling is ok, but other forms are not? Why is it that the only way one can make a living playing poker is live in Las Vegas or Atlantic City? I want to do it right from my couch.

Maryland authorized slot machines during the last elections. When we had a republic governor who tried to authorize them the idea was shot down, but when a democrat came up with the same idea everyone ran on over and voted for it. I don't care who came up with the idea, I definitely voted against it because its just a way to collect money from dumb people. But um yeah, poker? That will never be allowed because it's actually a game of skill, not an automatic negative expected value. Damn bastards!


RE: UIGEA
By dever on 2/23/2009 2:52:37 PM , Rating: 3
Don't forget electing legislators... that too, is a real gamble.


RE: UIGEA
By TheDoc9 on 2/23/2009 4:07:42 PM , Rating: 2
The banning of these sites was a major win imo. The opportunity for and sheer amount of cheating that goes on is reason enough.

Poker is one of the worst as the typical scenario is one person purchasing multiple ip's and logging into one table as multiple players in order to corner it. Some sites don't even bother to check your ip.


RE: UIGEA
By sotti on 2/23/2009 7:16:08 PM , Rating: 2
I have no idea what site you play on but the security on the major sites is no where near that lax.

I've worried about such things before and emailed support. They track what IP, what account, when you logged in, who you've transferred money to.

You cannot do what you described without getting your account shutdown and banned and all of your money confiscated.


RE: UIGEA
By TheDoc9 on 3/6/2009 2:30:21 PM , Rating: 2
The person I knew who told me how to do it, did it regularly and wanted me to go in on it with him (no i didn't do it), had none of the banning issues you describe and made thousands per month doing this.

Even if you don't believe this could work, do you really believe that they can 'track' you when you have multiple ip's. Or that they even could care less too.

The truth is most of these sites allow multiple connections from the same ip - with the excuses cheaters give that multiple people from the same household are hooked up to a router and playing.

The gaming company could care less and they aren't going to spend the resources you describe. Online gaming offers false hope to many people, the only ones that benefit are the ones who prey on this false hope.


Oh yes, that's ALL we need right now...
By Creig on 2/23/09, Rating: 0
By Motoman on 2/23/2009 12:55:31 PM , Rating: 3
...there's nothing stopping you from gambling on the internet right now. This law is exactly as effective as the CAN-SPAM act. Which is to say, totally useless. US governments need to stop acting duplicitously about gambling anyway...lottery anyone? Or laws that relegate gambling only to riverboats...please. What effing difference does that make?

If you have a gambling problem, you have a gambling problem and you're going to find a way to feed it. We need to stop making stupid, ineffective laws.


By kattanna on 2/23/2009 12:59:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I never understood the allure of slot machines in the first place


the sole use of slot machines, to me, is to help me pass the time getting free drinks served to me by scantily clad females.

but personally.. i like quarter video poker.. so my $20 goes farther.. LOL


By odessit740 on 2/23/2009 2:49:21 PM , Rating: 1
Somehow sites like PokerStars and FullTiltPoker and DoylesRoom still exist and operate without a problem in the US. Hate to break it to you, but people still gamble. Some actually do it for a living. And lastly it is no the job of the government to decide how I spend my money. They already pick off a good portion of it through taxes, the least that they can allow me to do is blow it how I want to. Whether or not that includes going to a restaurant or playing Holdem' is my business.


RE: Oh yes, that's ALL we need right now...
By mindless1 on 2/23/2009 5:06:16 PM , Rating: 1
You really think you'll average 85% back? Obviously never played the slots...


RE: Oh yes, that's ALL we need right now...
By Hawkido on 2/23/2009 6:35:36 PM , Rating: 2
actually, most slots pay out 80% or higher...
it's just that you turn around and feed your remaining 80% back into it only to get 80% of 80% back (64%). one or two more times and your out...

But yes you are right... you never really walk away from slots after playing them all night with 85% of what you sat down with.

sit down with $100 of dollar coins and feed them in one at a time and keep all the winnings in a seperate bucket (if you casino still uses coins and buckets anymore) and see usually it will return 50% or more... the other 30% of the 80 promised is for the larger payouts that you would have to sit down for a while and play to get, unless you are lucky like my brother, who has walked through a casino and jackpotted (well, really large payout >300x) on 3 different slot machines one after the other on the first pull. Geeze I hate him... LOL J/K!


By Bremen7000 on 2/24/2009 12:19:09 AM , Rating: 2
No coins or buckets here, paper is the wave of the future. Insert ticket, press button, lose money, repeat.


Race to the Bottom
By Dfere on 2/23/2009 1:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
Here in ohio, we have the very same issue. We don't have privatized gambling in Ohio (with some exceptions).

We have three states making money off of our residents, and their payouts and local taxes on them are directly proportional to how close they are to Ohio population centers.

Ohio should make the money, we deal with the negative issues. Similarly, the US should let gambling be allowed, but should tax it so that US residents get the benefits of the commerce as well as getting stuck with the negative consequences.

You can't hold the ocean back with a broom, you can keep the beach clean for tourists.




Regulated Gambling
By choadenstein on 2/23/2009 3:17:54 PM , Rating: 2
Seems like removing the ban and having state/fed. run gambling sites would be the way to go.

Lots of money is made from gambling, and I for one would rather gamble at a site that I believe (hope) would be legitimate, such a state run site (e.g., extension of state run lotteries).

Basically this is the reason I don't like gambling in many foreign countries - I feel like they have much less regulation than a Nevada or Atlantic City, NJ and More apt to fraud with less liability (i.e., you're not gonna get far suing a Costa Rican Casino). Same thing goes when you gamble at online sites that are run out of countries like Morroco, etc... Do you really trust their games to be 100% legit?

Just like the Lottery, this would be a great way to gain tax dollars in a legit and well run manner. Which is why, by definition, our federal government will never do this... Ugh...




Just be honest
By FITCamaro on 2/24/2009 6:03:42 AM , Rating: 2
They want to repeal the ban so they can try to tax the winnings. Pure and simple.

That said the ban shouldn't exist in the first place. If people want to be stupid with their money and lose it (one of the main reasons that the ban was put in place. to "protect" people from addictive playing), let them. No one's fault but their own. But then again personal responsibility has no place in America today. It's always someone else's fault (its the gambling sites fault for enticing you to play /rolleyes).

Sure some people make money. But a lot lose it.




OH MY GOD
By jlips6 on 2/24/2009 11:59:00 AM , Rating: 2
they're DOGS, and they're PLAYING POKER!
Wha- how-
aha, ahaha, AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!




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