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Apple has a next-gen iPhone, and the price point is in the hands of Apple Inc. CEO Steve Jobs

Apple Inc.'s iPhone is selling like hotcakes, or more aptly perhaps like Nintendo Wiis, and racked up impressive sales of a million units a mere 74 days after its release on June 29th of this year.  The iPhone, TIME magazine's Invention of the Year, has helped Apple see its fastest quarterly growth in history -- and it has done all of this while operating on the EDGE network, which users have complained at times is painfully slow, in comparison to its brawnier 3G brethren.

Now Apple seems to be determined to give the public what they want, for once, and is looking to release a 3G iPhone late next year.

AT&T Inc. Chief Executive Officer Randall Stephenson has confirmed early reports, breaking the news that a 3G iPhone at a meeting of the Churchill Club in Santa Clara, California.  He stated firmly that the phone will be released next year, when prompted for the time frame. 

The pricing is up in the air currently, and the man with the power in his hand to dictate the price is none other than Apple Inc. CEO Steve Jobs, according to Stephenson.  He said, "[Jobs] will dictate what the price of the phone is."

Jobs announced his recent intentions of selling 10 million iPhones worldwide in 2008, which would give the iPhone a modest 1% foothold in the highly competitive mobile phone market.  Such sales would make the iPhone one of top smart phones.  Sales through September totaled 1.5 million.  Particularly telling should be the unreleased sales figures for November, including those over the weekend of "Black Friday" which traditionally sees frenzied electronics sales.  Worldwide sales will also factor heavily into the iPhones success in 2008, as the iPhone is being released in Britain, France and Germany already.

The benefits of 3G are blatantly obvious.  One of the device's biggest draws is its implementation of a full feature web-browser, and its ability to remotely connect to popular music service iTunes and download the newest songs.  However, both of these activities are highly dependent on network speed, and more speed certainly points to a better overall user experience.

The key obstacle Apple must overcome in releasing the 3G phone in 2008 is battery life.  Apple might be getting some more knocks from Greenpeace, as the 3G chip is a power-hungry little beast, which Jobs has described as a "real power hog", at a news conference in London.  Steve Jobs had even gone as far in September to say that battery life would be too steep an obstacle to the adoption of a faster network.  Now Apple seems to have reversed course and committed to beating this challenge.

Apple has stated that the battery life for the 3G enabled version will be expected to be at least 5 hours, still down from the current 8 hour EDGE network battery life.

Despite criticism for its locking policies, which have even lead to class action suits, Stephenson laughed off Verizon's recent campaign to open its network to any phone or software maker meeting its expectations, stating, "We are probably one of the most open networks in the world, not just the U.S." 

Perhaps AT&T is truly striving for such an objective, but coming from a network that until recently suspended its users right to free speech, it will likely strike many as a rather a comical statement for AT&T to brag of its openness.  Additionally the pressure is mounting on Apple and AT&T to offer the iPhone unlocked in the U.S. as only Britain the U.S. will sell locked iPhones (French and German law mandates unlocking).  It certainly seems as if U.S. and British customers are getting the short end of the stick, and some speculate that a small underground industry selling imported iPhones from France and Germany may emerge.

Nonetheless, despite Apple and AT&T's idiosyncrasies, many consumers will be thrilled to know that the 3G iPhone is coming in 2008, will have a decent battery life, and is not just another wishful rumor.  If Apple and AT&T make their policy giving their customers what they want they just might continue their torrid pace of iPhone sales and ambitious sales objectives.

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Why not use load balancing?
By FITCamaro on 11/29/2007 10:51:46 AM , Rating: 5
Why not just throttle the 3G chip? If you're doing something like browsing the web, slow the speed of the 3G chip down which would result in slower speeds but longer battery life. But I think people are ok with a web page taking an extra second or two to load. But if you're downloading a video clip, then crank the speed up to get it faster? Or don't. Heck let the user (oh god no!) decide how fast they want it to operate. Just like Windows. Have max battery, balanced, and performance options for the 3G features.

I'm just saying the 3G chip doesn't have to run at full speed anytime someone is using it.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By NicePants42 on 11/29/2007 11:00:49 AM , Rating: 5
Nah, all Apple needs to do is put a glossy white car battery in a glossy white fanny-pack and sell it. They could use a proprietary power transformer and plug so that it only works with the iPhone, and they could call it the iPack and sell it for $100 worth of Apple store credit.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By RandallMoore on 11/29/2007 11:50:28 AM , Rating: 3
HAHAHA! That about sums up my opinion of Apple. The company logo should be: "We are so much better than everyone else, so you should spend all of your income on our WAY overpriced shiny crap"

PS - All of your paycheck are belong to Apple.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By FITCamaro on 11/29/2007 12:22:06 PM , Rating: 4
A logo is an image you associate with an organization or company.

And that's too long to be a slogan. ;)

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By clovell on 11/29/2007 3:08:16 PM , Rating: 2
lol - someone set him up the bomb.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By erikejw on 11/29/2007 4:53:22 PM , Rating: 2
This is great.

I heard from there PR woman in charge that this model will include the added feature of iBricking even without an image update.

She says if it iBricks it is just to buy a new phone, everything to increase earnings. :))

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By oTAL on 12/3/2007 1:17:56 PM , Rating: 2
It could still be their declaration of principles.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By Rav3n on 11/29/2007 7:58:11 PM , Rating: 3
Does that mean there will also be a Pro model that is brushed aluminum with a polished back, scratches easily, and attracts fingerprints?

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By retrospooty on 11/29/2007 11:01:06 AM , Rating: 2
The excuse Apple used that the iPhone didn't use 3G because of battery life concerns was just a lame copout. Treo's, Blackberries and other WinMobile phones have had it for years using older, less efficient chips than what are available now.

Anyhow, an iPhone with 3G sounds good. If they can only add an external battery so you can spaw it out on the go, and add enterprise email support its a winner.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By retrospooty on 11/29/2007 11:02:36 AM , Rating: 3
swap it out... damn dxsleyia

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By InsaneGain on 11/29/07, Rating: 0
RE: Why not use load balancing?
By retrospooty on 11/29/2007 11:49:57 AM , Rating: 2
Yes really. Sammy has some implementation issues that should be addressed. I worked for Palm for the past 5 years... I know a lil something about smartphones.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By tayhimself on 11/29/2007 1:06:42 PM , Rating: 2
We all know how well palm are doing in the smartphone space don't we </sarcasm>

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By retrospooty on 11/29/2007 4:08:31 PM , Rating: 2
LOL - true, but this helps prove my point... Palm stopped innovating several years ago, and still they can do 3g speeds without battery issues.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By InsaneGain on 11/30/07, Rating: 0
RE: Why not use load balancing?
By retrospooty on 11/30/2007 6:37:23 PM , Rating: 2
LOL - ya, I'll get right on that :)

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By AntiV6 on 11/30/2007 5:03:35 PM , Rating: 2
My 755p had terrible battery life. I should know, surfing the web killed mine in less than an hour...

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By retrospooty on 11/30/2007 6:36:08 PM , Rating: 2
Mine is great... My guess is you have a bad battery. all the more reason to have a swappable battery. If that were an iPhone, you'd have to send it in for repair.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By grampaw on 11/29/2007 11:52:20 AM , Rating: 2
My understanding was that the size of the 3G chip, not the battery, was the deciding factor back when the iPhone was in the design phase. Mr. Jobs wanted the phone to have certain dimensions, which was impossible at that time given the size of the available 3G chips. By next year 3G chip sizes will be smaller and batteries will be both smaller and have more capacity.

RE: Why not use load balancing?
By spluurfg on 11/29/2007 11:14:17 PM , Rating: 2
I think it's more likely that Mr. Jobs discovered that surreptitiously mining users' personal data, habits, and credit card information at blazing 3g speeds was too hard to pass up.

By thebrown13 on 11/29/2007 12:11:47 PM , Rating: 3
I really like the iPhone but there's no way in hell I'll buy anything Apple while that douche prick of a CEO is still there.

RE: iPhone
By retrospooty on 11/29/2007 12:16:02 PM , Rating: 2
"there's no way in hell I'll buy anything Apple while that douche prick of a CEO is still there."

ROTFLMAO @ douche prick

also a true statement.

RE: iPhone
By T4RTER S4UCE on 11/29/2007 1:03:43 PM , Rating: 3
I think Steve is pretty awesome, I mean at least not a wimp.

RE: iPhone
By T4RTER S4UCE on 11/29/2007 1:06:12 PM , Rating: 2
Although, douche prick is an awesome insult.

RE: iPhone
By theapparition on 11/29/2007 1:18:40 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, anyone who denies the existance of his own kids is an A-OK standup guy.

RE: iPhone
By T4RTER S4UCE on 12/1/2007 10:35:46 PM , Rating: 2
Kids are overrated ;)

RE: iPhone
By retrospooty on 11/29/07, Rating: 0
By UNCjigga on 11/29/2007 11:45:05 AM , Rating: 1
Verizon Wireless just announced they will have a 4G trial network in 2008! :) I'll wait for a 4G iPhone.

By excrucio on 11/29/2007 11:59:27 AM , Rating: 1
4g will be based on ips with extremely fast speeds, the thing is, verizon is trying to input their style of phone, not CHIP based where u would have with tmobile and att etc.. which i love, i hate verizon they have shitty phones.

By AlexWade on 11/29/2007 12:40:18 PM , Rating: 2
On Verizon Wireless, no thank you. Verizon are some phone-crippling fools. Want a ringtone? $2 please. Never mind you purchased the CD and never mind the phone is capable of getting the file from your computer. Verizon will disable file transder with their uniform software. And they still will charge you an arm and leg.

By theapparition on 11/29/2007 1:22:23 PM , Rating: 2
Nothing a little bit of seem-editing doesn't take care of.

There's always a way.......

By Kyteland on 11/29/2007 1:51:52 PM , Rating: 2
It looks like Verizon is going to be more open with its phones in the future.

By UNCjigga on 11/29/2007 4:12:40 PM , Rating: 2
Verizon will continue to charge its customers whatever the market will bear. Obviously, with a walled-garden approach they can afford to charge more for ringtones and keep phones locked down. But with 4G all bets are off as to how the strategy will change. As more carriers adopt open platforms competition from Apple and Microsoft intensifies, this approach may not be sustainable and content pricing might become more uniform. But its too early to predict how this will all play out.

What we do know is that Verizon together with Vodafone are adopting LTE, which is the next-generation of GSM technology. So it is quite possible that future Verizon phones will have SIM card activation. Also, they have pledged to be more "open" when it comes to devices and applications, so we can assume that means content as well.

Oh and BTW, most current Verizon Wireless music phones do let you rip your own CDs and sync the music to your phone (some phones let you set songs as ringtones, some don't.)

By retrospooty on 11/30/2007 9:17:33 AM , Rating: 2
" Verizon Wireless just announced they will have a 4G trial network in 2008! :) I'll wait for a 4G iPhone."

3G wont be at all obsolete..

1. Verizon is starting a new 4g trial network in 2008 - It wont be cheap and widespread for another 2 years at least. By then, there will be new iterations of iPhone (and all other brands for that matter)
2. 3G is planty fast for a mobile phone. The current EDGE neetwork is gutwrenchingly slow, but 3g is going to last a long while.

By excrucio on 11/29/2007 11:56:31 AM , Rating: 2
Well first TMOBILE and AT&T must get their towers working fully at 3G bands.

Second, the only advantage of 3G right now in the US is the faster speeds for file transfer and internet browsing.

and last, come on everyone knows 3G aint fun without that video chat huh?

You gotta get them phones with video chat capability...

and even if that is out, only the iphone will be able to do it, because other phones that support 3g are from NOKIA and etc which are sold at very high costs such as 700 dollars.

And if Nokia and other bigger carriers of phones come out with their 3G phones in the US, apple is dead on the phone business, because the others phones are much far superior as of O/S and other applications.

I love the fact US is getting 3G, I just think Apple is pushing for it, and they might just die too close to glory.

By odiHnaD on 11/29/2007 12:18:30 PM , Rating: 2
One more (huge) advantage to add to the list of GSM based 3G (UMTS/HSDPA) is being able to talk on the phone and access data at the same time. It's nice that you can currently do this if you're in wifi range on the iPhone, but I miss having that capability anywhere I go, as I had it on my Blackjack...

By FITCamaro on 11/29/2007 12:20:18 PM , Rating: 2
Did your long ramble on various and sometimes unclear topics have a point?

Good News
By EntreHoras on 11/29/2007 11:49:22 AM , Rating: 5
Good news for early adopters of the iPhone... NOT
They were punk'd.

By ninjit on 11/29/2007 1:14:11 PM , Rating: 2
... for better google maps integration, and an SD memory card slot (ANY kind of slot is preferable to none, but mini/micro SD would be best).

Plus 3rd party apps, which is supposedly coming, and then I may jump on the bandwagon... when the price comes down.

3G or Bust?
By teckytech9 on 11/30/2007 5:21:41 AM , Rating: 2
In Europe, only cheap phones lack 3G.

Pushing 2 year old technology to the European market is bad business. Asking 30% of subscriber revenue is outrageous. But hey, its Apple, with its sleek and shiny, overpriced products. iLock your customers into buying more iPhones is hip, aye?

Possible May 2008 launch for iPhone 2.0 in Europe is circulating on the net. Do we get an iRebate for the 1.0 beta version? Either it's an iRebate or another iPaperweight.

Still Outdated
By EclipsedAurora on 11/30/2007 7:44:08 AM , Rating: 2
What I hope in 2007 is 3.5G, not slow and oldie 3G!

Not mentioning 2008!!!

I hope Apple can really "answer to my hope!"

I need more than 3g
By qball101 on 12/3/2007 9:10:24 AM , Rating: 2
Lets hope it also has a decent camera with flash and GPS.

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