While many domestic and foreign automakers are looking to hybrid technology to
improve fuel efficiency across their auto lines, Honda is looking towards
the tried and true: diesel engines.
It was reported last month that the next generation Honda
Accord would forgo its slow-selling and poor-performing Accord Hybrid with a
diesel variant. The oil-burning Honda Accord will feature a 2.2 liter i-CTDi Tier
2 Bin 5 diesel engine along with an ammonia-filled catalytic converter to
reduce NOx emissions.
Honda is also poised to make a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel
engine available for its larger vehicles including the Odyssey minivan, Pilot
mid-sized SUV and the Ridgeline mid-sized pickup truck. The new Tier 2 Bin 5
diesel will first be available in 2010 according to the Japanese
The engine is said to be 30 percent more fuel efficient than
Honda's current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine (rated at 17/24, 15/20 and 15/20 respectively
in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline based on 2008 EPA estimates). The new motor
is also said to produce 20 percent less carbon dioxide as the 3.5 liter V6 gasoline
Honda's new diesels likely won't come under as much
scrutiny for failure to achieve EPA estimates as has been the case with
hybrids. Honda knows this first-hand as it recently became the target of a class-action lawsuit
regarding poor fuel economy on the Civic Hybrid.
quote: Automakers outsource most of this "technology" development to automotive suppliers and companies that specialize in consulting and development
quote: If one wants to see impressive diesel technology, you dont look at japanese cars, you look at european, particularly german and french, car makers - they're at the bleeding edge of this technology in every aspect
quote: Computers invented in US, now refined and produced in japan, china, korea. Cars invented in US, now refined in Japan & Korea.
quote: The diesel engine was invented and first used in the US. Europe has been forced to make it much more efficient due to the price of gasoline & cars out there.
quote: Cars - Invented in Germany (Benz)
quote: Japanese wages & workforce VS. European wages & workforce. Its hard for any company to step up to that kind of competition.
quote: The US has very large natural gas reserves. Canada, US, and Mexico hold 46% of the worlds estimated natural gas reserves so your argument is baseless.
quote: And the 46% number is the total of North America.
quote: Biodiesel from waste oil is ludicrous.
quote: blah blah blah
quote: the algae farming is brand new.
quote: You can regurgitate the corn argument all you want but the rest of us are moving on to other resources.
quote: thousand some odd people?
quote: is that you're NOT moving on to other resources.
quote: Which is why I advocate thermal depolymerization over ethanol production.
quote: Which is why I advocate thermal depolymerization over ethanol production. It takes a variety of abundantly available waste resources and with very little processing, produces a refinable light crude. It's still crappy for the environment, but it fits nicely into our existing infrastructure, and won't cause a global catastrophe in two years.
quote: This can be solved with simple legislation
quote: Big friggin' whoop. Boo Hoo our price of corn goes up a little. It's a drop in the bucket compared to oil prices.
quote: Trade one problem for an even worse one.
quote: This can be solved with simple legislation stating that food and other items that currently depend on corn production gets first dibs on the corn supply.
quote: It took a very long time to get the energy yields of gasoline to the efficiency levels they are today.
quote: It's a drop in the bucket compared to oil prices.
quote: Think of the MPG if you provide some hybrid assist to a diesel engine. Toyota Prius + VW TDI =====????
quote: Honda (snip) to introduce a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel by 2010
quote: In terms of efficiency and being a "clean" engine, EU passed US long time ago.
quote: Because DC and GM cannot produce proper diesel technology and their non-efficient gasoline cars cannot compete with a 50+MPG europen diesel cars
quote: It passes also California's emission standards, which is the most strict in US.