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Hitachi has introduced the worlds first 1080 42-inch plasma display as well as a new 55-inch plasma HDTV

Hitachi has announced its new line of Plasma HDTVs. The new Plasma displays come in both 42-inch and 55-inch models. The new 42-inch model features 1080  line resolution, a first for Plasma based displays, while the 55-inch model features 1080i. The new displays carry the UltraVision HDS69 Plasma HDTV brand and both feature 3 HDMI inputs and 3 composite inputs.

"The world's first 1080 line 42-inch plasma is the result of Hitachi's investments into core plasma technologies," said Bill Whalen, senior product manager, Hitachi America, Ltd.  "Now consumers can see today's digital signals with a new clarity that only Hitachi plasma technology can deliver. All of our new plasma products utilize advanced proprietary technologies to bring the most realistic image and best picture quality possible to home theater."

The displays are powered by Hitachi’s PictureMaster HD III processor which features dynamic contrast, dynamic histogram processing, maximum 16 bit/281 trillion color capability, automatic 3:2 film processing, 4 HD aspect modes, 6 SD aspect modes, and split screen/picture in picture. The 42HDS69 has 1024 x 1080 resolution using Alternate Lighting of Surfaces (ALiS) panel technology that delivers more than 1.1 million pixels. The 55HDS69, with 1365 x 768 resolution and high-contrast black rib structure is designed for consumers that want big impact in a large screen plasma product. Both models feature the new natural color anti-reflective glass filter, pure HDTV blue and red, high-aperture pixel design, and include:
  • 3 HDMI audio/video inputs
  • 3 Component inputs
  • CableCARD compatibility
  • Six Speaker 36-watt audio system.
Additional highlights include an auto link input sensor, simulated surround sound, bass boost, optical digital audio output. The 42HDS69 and 55HDS69 will be priced at $2,499 and $4,299, respectively, and will be available later this month.

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Toshiba has 1080p
By Chillin1248 on 6/5/2006 1:37:58 AM , Rating: 3
Well I know Toshiba already has a 37" 1080p display out currently. Why is it taking so long to get this resolution into the larger screens?




RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By abhaxus on 6/5/2006 1:50:40 AM , Rating: 2
eh... the smallest plasma with 1080p is a 50" model which i'm not sure is available yet. there are lots of small LCDs with 1080p res, namely most computer monitors above 23" and several 37" TV models.


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By Chillin1248 on 6/5/2006 2:29:21 AM , Rating: 3
Who manufactures this panel?


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By AmbroseAthan on 6/5/2006 9:15:35 AM , Rating: 2
RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By ElJefe69 on 6/5/2006 11:43:05 AM , Rating: 1
I sell these things, and truthfully, a plasma if it is of the 5000 dollar and higher (at wholesale discount), it beats out any lcd possible.

lcd has the fine resolution, but the overall picture/enjoyment is still in the high class versions of plasma's.

also, 42 inch is a waste unless space is a constraint. the advent of widescreen makes 42 actually very tiny for regulat broadcast.

61 inch plasa from pioneer is what I am looking at. IT is a nifty set.


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By Alphafox78 on 6/5/2006 12:02:03 PM , Rating: 2
Plasmas are great... if you plan on using it for like only 2 years. Ill stick to LCDs that dont burn out that quick are not subject to easy burn in.


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By Madzombie on 6/5/2006 1:35:48 PM , Rating: 2
*huggles his 12 year old still-going-strong CRT*


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By lamestlamer on 6/5/2006 2:16:56 PM , Rating: 2
Modern Plasma half life is 50,000 hours.

Plasmas have higher On/Off CR and hence better color saturation and shadow detail than LCD or DLP. CRT is better in these areas than plasma, but is considered a dead technology due to its complexity and analog video path.

The primary problems with plasmas are WEIGHT and POWER consumtion(caps used to emphasize large quantities).

That $5000 plasma uses at least .3kw. Over the course of its lifetime, that is .3kw*50,000hr*.08$/kwh=$1200+ the cost to cool all that heat(>$1200), unless you live up north. Most people are looking at about a +50% cost from power consumption alone.


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By GGA1759 on 6/5/2006 10:59:08 PM , Rating: 2
Only plasma panel life is >50,000 hours. Panel life, not the electronics creating the information being passed to the panel. There is a difference. Don't get caught in the marketing hype. TI would have you believe that nothing can compare to DLP. <cough> BULLSH*T <cough>

Also having high a high CR does not mean better shadow detail. Shadow detail has to do with how many shades of grey a set produces.

And finally, plasmas do not weigh that much. A 42" plasma is about 110 lbs, maximum. A 50" might run closer to 150 lbs. All things considered, that is not that heavy.


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By bob661 on 6/5/2006 3:54:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
lcd has the fine resolution, but the overall picture/enjoyment is still in the high class versions of plasma's.
I guess that's why high end home theaters use DLP projectors. Ever heard of Runco?


RE: Toshiba has 1080p
By brystmar on 6/5/2006 5:43:20 PM , Rating: 2
yes i have heard of Runco. did you know that Runco doesn't actually manufacture any of their projectors? they're all manufactured by another company (used to be Barco and it might still be) and rebranded with the Runco look + name and then marked up accordingly.

i've had nothing but bad experiences with the dozen or so i've come in contact with, and i *highly* recommend against them whenever possible. a friend of mine was a dealer for them in Austin a few years back; he installed 9 of them in customers' homes one year and 7 of them were back in the shop within 18 months for service! he dropped the Runco line shortly thereafrer.

there are plenty of other great brands of high-end projectors out there that make their own stuff (like Marantz, InFocus, Sharp, Dwin, and even Sony) and have better reliability than Runco at (usually) a lower price point.

/rant


Did anyone ever tell you that....
By sxr7171 on 6/4/2006 5:52:14 PM , Rating: 2
1080p is 1920x1080? Even Hitachi themselves take care to call the display a 1024x1080i display.

See for yourself: http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/plasma/plasma/42hd...




RE: Did anyone ever tell you that....
By piranhaa on 6/4/2006 5:59:56 PM , Rating: 2
It's clearly a mistake ... 1024x1080 is NOT widescreen (in the sense where the bottom of the image is larger than it is high), as the height would have 56 pixels more than the bottom would. they obviously meant 1920x1080...


By Tuan Nguyen on 6/4/2006 6:02:49 PM , Rating: 2
1024x1080 pixels can be wide aspect ratio because the pixels are rectangular and not square.


Tuan


By Zoolook on 6/4/2006 6:04:12 PM , Rating: 2
who said the pixels are quadratic...

it just states 1080 lines, who'd buy a screen like that though


By Tuan Nguyen on 6/4/2006 6:02:03 PM , Rating: 2
Corrected for clarification. Was suppose to say 1080-line, not 1080p.


Tuan.


RE: Did anyone ever tell you that....
By Dulanic on 6/4/2006 6:12:22 PM , Rating: 2
As others have posted, many 42" plasma panels are like this, their pixels are rectangular instead of square.


RE: Did anyone ever tell you that....
By Kamus on 6/4/2006 6:25:26 PM , Rating: 2
Not impressed, resolution isn't a big deal for such a small screen anyway, but still not impressed, they don't even say whats the CR on this thing?


RE: Did anyone ever tell you that....
By GGA1759 on 6/4/2006 6:48:40 PM , Rating: 2
CR?


RE: Did anyone ever tell you that....
By Blackraven on 6/4/2006 8:26:25 PM , Rating: 2
CR= Contrast Ratio(??)

Hmm...in any case, they may wanna display the response time (ms) of these things and we'll see how much flat panel TV has improved over the last 5 years.

Remember that the TV can't be too slow either (it will be a downside in gaming)


By GGA1759 on 6/4/2006 9:14:39 PM , Rating: 1
Contrast Ratio is really nothing to go by. There are too many variables in how it can be done to tweak the numbers.

Response time? Plasmas are not subject to the effects that can plague LCDs.


Resolution Specs right?
By GGA1759 on 6/4/2006 6:54:41 PM , Rating: 2
This makes little sense, but the 42" has a higher resolution than the 55".
And it shouldn't it be 1080p? The only thing displaying 1080i is CRT technology as far as I know. Plasma, LCD and DLP is all progressive display.




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