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AMD’s Executive Vice President, Henri Richard  (Source: Rahul Sood, DailyTech)
A corporate memo from AMD's CEO claims the company's executive vice president and chief sales and marketing officer leaves September 8

AMD’s Henri Richard plans to step down from his position as executive vice president and chief sales and marketing officer, according to an executive memo forwarded to DailyTech and confirmed by CNET. Richard’s resignation takes effect on September 8.

Richard’s resignation follows last month’s resignation of AMD’s Executive Vice President, Dave Orton. Orton was the former president and chief executive officer of ATI before the merger.

AMD has had a rough year in the CPU and graphics department. Despite a “successful integration” of the two companies, according to Orton, the company faced dramatic delays with its CPUs, chipsets and GPUs.

In its battle with Intel, the company touted the superior native quad-core Barcelona design, but has not launched a single quad-core processor. The company also faced delays with its AMD 690G chipset, which finally launched in February, despite expectations of a 2006 launch. AMD’s HD 2000 series also faced major launch delays, allowing NVIDIA to have a five-month head start in the DirectX 10 markets.

Financially, the company’s debts are mounting up fast after its $5.4 billion purchase of ATI Technologies. AMD’s first quarter loss of $611 million USD left analysts worried. AMD’s second quarter results were not any better, with a $600 million net loss. This forced the company to raise more cash by issuing $2.2 billion Convertible Senior Notes.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, however. AMD’s recent Technology Analyst Day outlined the company’s roadmaps with new technologies and products. The company’s next-generation Fusion architecture and octal-core Sandtiger provides hope in the long run.

AMD has yet to issue an official press release regarding the matter, nor has the company named a suitable replacement. An internal email, sent from Hector Ruiz to all AMD employees, reads the following:
We are sad to announce that Henri Richard has made the decision to leave AMD.

When Henri joined AMD in 2002, his primary mission was to establish a world class global Sales and Marketing organization. It is safe to say that he has accomplished that mission, and he is now ready for a new challenge in his career. While we will certainly miss him, it’s a measure of his success that the organization he leaves behind is fully poised to succeed and capable of maintaining and building the momentum that we built.

In the last five years, we have increased exponentially our global account foot print, acquiring customers of every caliber including the top PC and server OEMs around the world. In fact, from Toshiba and Acer to Lenovo, Dell, Sun and HP, we have become a critical strategic partner to our customers and a key component of enterprise solutions and consumer products worldwide.

Commensurate with this growth in our business, and the strength of our corporate and product brands.  We have a Sales and Marketing organization that can support and continue to grow our strategic importance to our customers. Nevertheless, we know this was a difficult decision for Henri, especially as we are poised to enjoy the successes of our acquisition of ATI, our upcoming quad-core Barcelona product and our strong product and technology roadmaps.

Henri’s official departure date is still pending, and we will communicate a leadership plan shortly.

Look for a Q&A with Henri to appear on AMD Online in the next day or two. Henri will discuss AMD’s accomplishments over the last five years, and our Phenomenal opportunities moving forward.

Please join us in thanking Henri for his leadership and wishing him well in his post-AMD career.
No official reasoning was mentioned by Ruiz for Richard's departure.  Richard's departure comes at a critical time; right in the middle of the upcoming Barcelona launch this quarter and Phenom FX by the end of the year.

Richard, in an interview with DailyTech in January of 2006, vowed the company would not stand still when it comes to new product development.


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it seems
By GhandiInstinct on 8/22/2007 5:47:44 PM , Rating: 3
The merger didn't help AMD as much as they hoped.

At this point I don't have much faith in buying their products as all this resigning and underperformance in ATi cards makes me wary of AMD and ATi products.




RE: it seems
By DragonMaster0 on 8/22/2007 5:53:57 PM , Rating: 1
At least ATi brings profit - AMD is losing a lot.

The 2900XT isn't that bad with updated drivers compared to the 8800GTX apparently.


RE: it seems
By Phynaz on 8/22/2007 6:01:45 PM , Rating: 2
No, ATI is also losing millions.


RE: it seems
By smitty3268 on 8/22/2007 6:12:28 PM , Rating: 4
Percentage wise, ATI lost just as much as the old AMD did last quarter.

I don't think AMD really expected any great benefits from ATI immediately anyway. Fusion in 2009 was always going to be the 1st real joint product.


RE: it seems
By hans007 on 8/22/2007 6:31:58 PM , Rating: 2
ATI was also losing money when AMD bought them. It was not an insignificant amount, if I remember correctly it was in the high 70 million a quarter range the last quarter before they were acquired


RE: it seems
By tuteja1986 on 8/22/2007 7:10:05 PM , Rating: 1
No , ATI revenue and profit was been dropping down but they only in Q1/Q2 2007 they lost arround 30million. in Q3 they made it back buy selling craploads of mid range 2XXX cards to dell , HP and also Apple.


RE: it seems
By Zurtex on 8/22/2007 7:07:27 PM , Rating: 2
I dunno, I thought the merger with ATi was a long term thing from the start. I mean what else would they expect?

But if they do well in the next year or so, it seems like the merger will pay off brilliantly 3 - 5 years down the line when they start integrating stream processors in to multi-core CPUs.


RE: it seems
By Regs on 8/22/2007 11:31:05 PM , Rating: 3
In my business, we acquire with companies that have great ideas with tangible goals and concepts or a solid product pipeline that shows growth.

We don't acquire companies that have dead-end products at the end of their life cycles or no ideas at all. AMD and ATi sure have great ideas, however with products both at the end of their life cycles, and even worse they have yet to prove to anyone that any of their ideas are tangible. For example, if the manufacturing and funding for such products are not there, then they are not tangible.

The sad truth is that we don't know anything what AMD or Ati has to offer in the future. Just a bunch of fanciful ideas with no blue prints. On top of that, they are losing money every quarter on product that reached the end of its life cycle over a year ago.


RE: it seems
By rdeegvainl on 8/23/2007 4:02:11 AM , Rating: 2
Very sad,
As both an AMD and ATI fanboy, I hate to admit it, but the best bang for my buck lately has been elsewhere.... I hope they do somehow make Fusion work wonders, If there is one thing that no one can take away form me it is hope.


RE: it seems
By Tuor on 8/22/2007 7:33:30 PM , Rating: 2
IMO, merging with ATi was the worst mistake AMD has made in a long time, and it may prove fatal to them. It distracted them from what needed to be a single-minded competition with Intel. The merger has sapped them of their agility as well.

I'm hoping that they regain some of their original leaness and again become competitive, but the current losses may be too great to be recoverable.


RE: it seems
By Hydrofirex on 8/22/2007 8:07:24 PM , Rating: 2
I totally disagree. Integrating GPU cores on the same die is a fantastic idea and a worthwhile strategic vision. The problem is simple - yet manifold. For starters, AMD needs competitive microprocessors (Which may [finally] come true sooner rather than later with Phenom). Secondly, they need to be able to meet launch dates and get into the market in a timely manner with new products. Which leads to their biggest problem: revenue. I've said it before and I'll say it again, processors require truckloads of investment in R&D (A problem that necessarily gets worse as the technology evolves). There is no way around this fact, and with a cash-laden competitor like Intel AMD doesn't seem to stand a chance. Executives jumping ship like they are leads me to believe the company is an even bigger buy out target.

I'd still like to see IBM get into the consumer arena by buying out AMD and funding them to the moon. With a company as diversified as the that would create, not to mention the R&D and patent resources, AMD would be able to compete in the long term with an Intel and not have to worry about loosing a round or two in meantime (This is Intel's big advantage in having the market share and money they do).

I can certainly imagine a 10-core+ CPU that has processors devoted to specialized and generalized tasks. Think general purpose, floating-point, OS accelerator, TCP/IP accelerator, and any number of specialty cores.

HfX


RE: it seems
By roadhog74 on 8/22/2007 11:38:11 PM , Rating: 3
not going to happen.

When was the last time IBM bought anything hardware related?
They have sold their
printer, hard drive and
consumer micro-computer divisions.

I can only wonder how long the workstation division
will last.

As far as CPU's go why would they want to
compete head to head with Intel in a commodity market?


RE: it seems
By James Holden on 8/23/2007 3:47:35 AM , Rating: 2
If anything they would just poach what's left of AMD employees and use their own design teams .


RE: it seems
By encryptkeeper on 8/23/2007 9:27:23 AM , Rating: 2
If anything, someone is on the shelf about it. Barcelona will make a big difference, if it shows some real potential competition to Intel someone will probably really consider buying them. There's too much money to be made buy some company with lots of assets but no ideas, which right now seems to be the opposite of AMD. I just bought a 4400+ X2, and according to bench tests on Toms Hardware, this thing competes very well (or better) than an E6320 but it's about 60 bucks less than the C2D.

If anything, a shake up in the marketing department is just one of the many things AMD needs. Unfortunately, so is cash, which AMD desperately needs so they can pay a NEW marketing exec, among other things.


RE: it seems
By Hawkido on 8/23/2007 11:07:45 AM , Rating: 2
While Initially I was very excited about the merger. Now (after the 2xxx HD series has launched and poorly) I feel AMD bought ATI 12 months too early.

If they would have waited about a year, ATI's value would have been 2 billion less and the acquisition would have been cheaper. AMD would have had more money to devote to getting the 65 NM shrink in place and gettting Barcelona out the door.

Unless, of course, they (AMD) needed the classified specs of the Radeon architecture to begin the integration into Barcelona for a future 2 core Barcelona fused with an ATI GPU on a chip. That would be the only reason to buy ATI sooner... It was a painful acquisition, and I am feeling it. I hope I can hold off buying a new computer for another year to see what happens. Intel has been making very nice CPU's recently (I bought my wife a C2D lappy, I really like it) but their products seem so vanilla (right now really good vanilla, but where's the chocolate or strawberry, or rocky road [Chunky Monkey FTW!])

AMD CPU's seem exotic, as they are not following the rest of the crowd, it always seems they are trying something new in this world of vanilla processors. I wish them the best, but without a viable competitor next year, I just may have to replace my desktop with an Intel, which will be my first Intel CPU since my Packard Bell Pentium 60. C2D is a good processor, and I won't regret my descision, but I will be sad that I had to part ways with a company that has WOW'd me for nearly a decade.


RE: it seems
By Targon on 8/22/2007 10:19:13 PM , Rating: 2
The ATI purchase/merger is a long-term strategic thing, not a "short term" type of purchase. The merger itself would take at LEAST 5-6 months before the different groups within ATI and AMD would be organized in a way that the groups would communicate and work together. Then you are looking at at least six to ten months before real "positive results" would be seen.

This means that it would take at least a year to really see the initial benefits of the merger in terms of product development. It hasn't been that long yet(though we are getting close), so people complaining about not seeing results are NOT being realistic.

It is the resulting technologies of the merger that will benefit AMD in the long run. Things like Fusion are the most obvious project to come from the merger, but the lesser talked about benefits in terms of new extensions to the x86-64 instruction set are also important. How about things like using the graphics division to show potential products like a HyperTransport connected video card?

With a chipset division, AMD could also come up with a work-around to some problems with current system designs(like graphics adapters having their memory mapped into the 4 gigabyte space rather than being independent but still addressable). I don't know if this could be done(though I don't see why a workaround wouldn't be possible if done on a BIOS level), but that sort of thing COULD give AMD an advantage in this age of 512 meg and 1 gig video cards.


RE: it seems
By TomZ on 8/22/07, Rating: 0
RE: it seems
By vignyan on 8/23/2007 4:21:41 AM , Rating: 2
People got to see Companies as a group of multiple groups working on multiple things simultaneously. Any company with a work force as much as AMD can defenitely focus on multiple things and in multiple aspects.
For ex. If AMD were to concentrate on the processor arcitecture(Feont end deisgn) only and not the bkend-design, it would not produce a processor to challenge Intel.
Its the simultaneous innovations that help the company grow!
Take it from me, the employees at Intel are loving this competition.. and winning (not whining if anyone were to make a joke out of it... quit it ;))


RE: it seems
By TomZ on 8/23/2007 8:34:42 AM , Rating: 2
AMD's actual performance is proving you wrong. Why all the the delays with the last ATI release? Why all the delays with Barcelona? It's exactly because they don't have enough resources to meet their commitments and keep up with nVIDIA and Intel.


RE: it seems
By Silver2k7 on 8/23/2007 3:06:06 AM , Rating: 3
"The merger didn't help AMD as much as they hoped."

Do you even know what you just typed about here =) ??
The merger is about when CPU and GPU will merge into one item wich obviousley has not happened yet..


RE: it seems
By James Holden on 8/23/2007 3:51:31 AM , Rating: 3
Nor will it if the company continues to bleed 600 million dollars per quarter. There is a very real risk the company can go bankrupt, and anyone that tells you otherwise isn't looking at the facts.

The company has less than $2 bil in cash right now. It has billions of dollars in assets that are not liquid right now (fabs that arent built, for example).

If it operates at its current pace it will lose $2.4 billion per year. This isn't rocket science! If the company doesn't find ways to get into the black, there won't be a 2009!


chief sales and marketing officer
By Vanilla Thunder on 8/22/2007 5:56:15 PM , Rating: 5
This guy must have had an easy job, considering that AMD's marketing was a joke. Maybe this will make way for someone who can actually market AMD chips to the mainstream, and develop the familiarity that the Intel name has with the average PC buyer.

Vanilla




RE: chief sales and marketing officer
By Xenoterranos on 8/23/2007 9:41:05 AM , Rating: 2
++Good!.

Does anyone know if this guy has been with AMD from the start (IE, the guy who though of those original AMD Athlon commercials, or the Livestrong tie-in campaign?)


By totallycool on 8/23/2007 10:03:45 AM , Rating: 2
The guy was with AMD from 2002, as noted in the memo and article.

quote:
When Henri joined AMD in 2002, his primary mission was to establish a world class global Sales and Marketing organization


Too late -Too little
By crystal clear on 8/22/2007 9:53:07 PM , Rating: 2
Its a real pity that it comes now,days before the launch.

As usual AMD gets it wrong-they never seem to do it right.

They should start from the TOP-I mean the CEO & CFO,then move downwards.

Inshort the full management team has to GO without any doubts or hesitations.

They have RUINED AMD completely in every possible way.

We need a strong & stable AMD to enjoy those low prices that we pay for CPUs.

I must add the R&D team is one of the best you can get-they should not pay the price for the management failures,nor should the manufacturing.

YES the full management team should GO & FAST to save a sinking ship from drowning.




RE: Too late -Too little
By James Holden on 8/23/2007 3:53:16 AM , Rating: 2
To think this is totally unrelated to the Barcelona launch is folly. He's bailing because he doesn't want Barcelona on his CV. There's almost not doubt about that.


RE: Too late -Too little
By crystal clear on 8/23/2007 5:23:52 AM , Rating: 2
The management team specialized in the following areas-

1)Engineering-Financial Engineering rather than electrical

2)Marketing-Marketing of Billions of Convertible Senior Notes rather than CPUs

3)Public Relations-Launching PRESS releases/announcements rather than CPUs

4)Legal-Exploring legal avenues to raise CASH by suing Intel on any flimsy ground-in short seeking easy money rather earning it.

5)Finance-Financing company activities with borrowed money knowing fully well it cannot pay it back.
Managing DEBTS rather than HARD EARNED REVENUES.

To summarize it-

AMD makes an execellent case history for discussion at Harward,maybe some guy would earn a Phd doing research on management failures of AMD.

Buy the way lets watch "AMD shares" for the next 2 days-SELL orders by the thousands-dumping the stock-free fall.


Bad News
By Phynaz on 8/22/2007 6:05:46 PM , Rating: 2
The guy's leaving two days before the Barcelona launch.

That is very unusual. I can only think there's something he doesn't want to live with.




RE: Bad News
By vignyan on 8/23/2007 4:36:33 AM , Rating: 1
sep 10 is more than 2 days away! :) as of now its sep 10... can be postponed too!


RE: Bad News
By Phynaz on 8/23/2007 10:41:35 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, he's leaving Sept. 8th.


The official press release
By crystal clear on 8/23/2007 4:52:31 AM , Rating: 2
AMD Announces Resignation of Chief Sales and Marketing Officer Henri Richard

SUNNYVALE, Calif. -- August 22, 2007 --AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced that Chief Sales and Marketing Officer Henri Richard is leaving the company in September 2007. Mr. Richard departs AMD of his own accord and on completely amicable terms.

“Henri’s primary goal at AMD has been to construct a world-class global sales and marketing organization focused on enduring relationships with major PC and server OEMs around the world. He delivered on that goal,” said AMD Chairman and CEO Hector Ruiz. “AMD is fully focused on leveraging the momentum we established during the last five years to achieve even greater levels of success ahead.”

The AMD global sales and marketing organization will report into the office of the CEO until a permanent replacement is appointed.

“After 20 years in the PC industry – and five of the most professionally rewarding years here at AMD – I have decided to make a move to a different business segment,” Mr. Richard said. “I am leaving AMD at a time when the company is in position to break the monopoly that plagues this industry. I am immensely proud of my contribution to AMD, and in particular, of the strong team I leave behind.”


http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoo...




By crystal clear on 8/23/2007 5:58:51 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
five of the most professionally rewarding years here at AMD – I have decided to make a move to a different business segment,”


If those 5 years were so professionally rewarding then you stay on & take up the new challenge "Barcelona" .

The very fact that you decide to move to a different business segment, shows "YOU WERE A FAILURE".

YOU WERE ASKED TO GO-SIMPLE


By crystal clear on 8/23/2007 9:53:24 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The AMD global sales and marketing organization will report into the office of the CEO until a permanent replacement is appointed.


I ask a very simple question-

1)Whats the big hurry !-

His employment with AMD terminates on Sept 8th & Barcelona to be launched on the 10th Sept & no permanent replacement is appointed?

All this so close to a launch date for a CPU thats so crucial & critical for the future of AMD.

This certainly doesnt appear good-Expect some more dirty surprises & maybe even SCHOCKING.

2)Can this resignation be taken as a sign of desperation &
panic.

He(Richard) can certainly continue in his post until & after the initial Barcelona launch is completed,to ensure a smooth transition of responsibilites/duties for such a important/crucial post.

People at this level give at least 3 month advance notification about their intention to leave their post-to enable a smooth transition of responsibilites & duties.

Assuming he did give advance notification -then why a replacement was not appointed & announced?

All this leaves serious doubts & question about what to expect in the near future-indeed very troubled/stormy times for AMD.


well
By Treckin on 8/22/2007 9:12:06 PM , Rating: 2
I believe the key point to notice in these "resignations" is that removal of key executives is often not an individual 'jumping ship', but rather being forced out in a power play or disagreement on the board of executives.
AMD, although in bad shape, is not going anywhere...
The worst to expect of their situation (and only if Barcelona/Agena are horrible flops) is a financial prop provided by Intel (think MS-->Apple). Before AMD could possibly go under, a company their size would undergo waves and waves of layoffs, followed by a slow and arduous liquidation of assets.
The fact that AMD missed that mark by a few notches this year means relatively little to a company with the longevity and financial base of such a substantial and integral entity as AMD.

Please stop with the fire and brimstone posts, AMD isn't going anywhere




RE: well
By thestain on 8/22/2007 9:37:31 PM , Rating: 2
Big Financial Mis-Management is biggest concern to me as AMD Customer and Investor.

When AMD first got word that Intel had it beat in the near future in CPU market, probably earlier than we the Public found out in early 2006, how come AMD was in no rush to issue stock?

One member of the Financial team I am aware of, Stanford grad.. claims.. this takes time.. yet.. six months in committee and NO action is really incompetence when at war financially with the likes of nVidia and Intel.

All the strategies of AMD to merge with Ati, etc.. would be viable ones if AMD had raised in the form of stock and not debt the 4-5 Billion it could have at $30 or more per share well over a year and a half ago.

Since AMD has instead opted to go deeper in debt, the risk to customer and investors has been increased exponentially, especially when one considers the product delays and the competition.

This could be 3DFX and its last gasp mergers while drowning taking place all over again.

AMD is dramatically under-capitalized at this time.

The Stain


Ruiz or Richard?
By vignyan on 8/23/2007 4:28:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Ruiz's departure comes at a critical time; right in the middle of the upcoming Barcelona launch this quarter and Phenom FX by the end of the year.


Hey should it be Richard instead if Ruiz??? i am having confusions with the name as it is! :D




RE: Ruiz or Richard?
By James Holden on 8/23/2007 10:57:10 AM , Rating: 2
Looks like they fixed it


Proofreading posts = good
By chsh1ca on 8/23/2007 9:48:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
No official reasoning was mentioned by Ruiz for Richard's departure. Ruiz's departure comes at...

I think this should read:
quote:
No official reasoning was mentioned by Ruiz for Richard's departure. Richard's departure comes at...




RE: Proofreading posts = good
By TomZ on 8/23/2007 9:54:44 AM , Rating: 2
Consider it as possible foreshadowing of near future events...


Rats Jumping Ship?
By TomZ on 8/22/2007 5:48:31 PM , Rating: 2
His resigation is either a good sign - an ouster to make way for someone who can competently do the job - or it is maybe the rats jumping ship before it sinks?




RE: Rats Jumping Ship?
By crystal clear on 8/22/2007 9:29:45 PM , Rating: 1
You are right-Bang ! on target


Did anyone see this???
By James Holden on 8/23/2007 3:56:11 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Henri will discuss AMD’s accomplishments over the last five years, and our Phenomenal opportunities moving forward.

Was that just me?




Who's leaving?
By ceefka on 8/23/2007 6:31:43 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Ruiz's departure comes at a critical time;


It wasn't Ruiz who is leaving, right? Wishful thinking on DT's part?




Just wait
By Nik00117 on 8/23/2007 12:01:25 PM , Rating: 1
I don't think AMD expected to be able to outperform Intel after cornoe even with quad core. I think they set their eyes ahead of intel and began planning for Quad AKA fusion. I Believe AMD never intended to do a lot with quad and go to oct CPU units.

AMD is playing chess right now, and sure the're last few moves just look like utter shit but no one sees the one they are building up too.

The intergrataion of CPU and GPU arichture in my eyes is simliar to that of memory and CPU, which has proved to be great. Imagine this you buy a CPU and GPU combo, the date transfers are insane and the graphics are amazing becausee of the closeness of the chips




Steps/Resigns?
By fk49 on 8/22/07, Rating: 0
You guys go ahead
By Spuke on 8/22/07, Rating: -1
RE: You guys go ahead
By Makaveli on 8/22/2007 7:55:10 PM , Rating: 1
always remember lot of the people on these forums are kids, or adults with child like attitudes.

Also some people just like to come post alot of bs and stir up the pot after a long day of work.


RE: You guys go ahead
By TomZ on 8/22/2007 8:07:29 PM , Rating: 1
Which category are you?

(Just kidding.)


RE: You guys go ahead
By crystal clear on 8/22/2007 8:44:28 PM , Rating: 1
He belongs to the catergory "Not Worth Reading"-just kidding


RE: You guys go ahead
By DallasTexas on 8/22/2007 9:30:50 PM , Rating: 1
Goofs like you just crack me up. I'll interpret your bleeding heart BS in a tech forum:

"I'll buy from CPU vendor X because their nice, it plays my game well and I pride myself in buying trailing edge technology... and you should too".


RE: You guys go ahead
By Targon on 8/22/2007 10:26:47 PM , Rating: 1
If a $200 AMD CPU and a $200 Intel processor are very close in overall performance, then why would you NOT buy an AMD based machine. It really doesn't matter to the vast majority of consumers who makes the fastest chips if you don't plan to buy those faster chips in the first place.

At this point, with socket AM2 getting support from K10 and K11(whatever they will call the DDR3 parts from AMD), at least we won't need to replace our motherboards for a while.


RE: You guys go ahead
By TomZ on 8/22/2007 11:39:17 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
If a $200 AMD CPU and a $200 Intel processor are very close in overall performance, then why would you NOT buy an AMD based machine.

Based on experience both ways, I would buy an Intel processor with an Intel chipset on an Intel motherboard. Simple decision there.


RE: You guys go ahead
By Silver2k7 on 8/23/2007 3:16:58 AM , Rating: 1
If your not going to purchase the top of the line that I don't see your point Nvidia has a very nice platform for AMD.


RE: You guys go ahead
By TomZ on 8/23/2007 8:37:35 AM , Rating: 2
Because of the quality and reliability of Intel systems.

At the small company I work for, we've got a dozen or so computers, mostly built by us. Here's the track record so far: every computer built on an Intel motherboard is still running - none have ever failed. Every computer built on non-Intel motherboards has failed - every one.

I realize our sample size is small, and our results probably unusual, but I don't try to argue with the numbers. Therefore, when it comes time to upgrade again, you can be sure we'll be using Intel hardware again.


RE: You guys go ahead
By DallasTexas on 8/23/2007 1:56:28 PM , Rating: 2
"..f a $200 AMD CPU and a $200 Intel processor are very close in overall performance, then why would you NOT buy an AMD based machine..."

Very simple. If am shopping for a CPU and they both cost $200, and everything else is equal, I'll buy the better part. Wouldn't you? I mean, assuming mom or dad does not work for the company producing the inferior part.


RE: You guys go ahead
By JumpingJack on 8/22/07, Rating: -1
RE: You guys go ahead
By Chocobollz on 8/22/2007 11:34:01 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
If the extent of your computer usage is for simply gaming (not that gaming is not fun/worthy -- but there is more to computing than splitting hairs over 180 and 200 FPS), it is more cost effective to go for a console.


LOL JumpingJack, you mean that IF somebody like to eat, they need to only buy food? ^ ^; I mean that, yeah, buying a console would be more cost-effective but that considering IF we really *only* need doing games ^ ^; Buying a PC is always be a more cost-effective, if you look from the price/performance vs. what you need. By buying a PC, you can do a lot more things than with the console. Yeah, you prolly don't need the other things but like some people said, it's better to always have a backup right? ^ ^;


RE: You guys go ahead
By jtesoro on 8/23/2007 5:18:26 AM , Rating: 2
Let's not forget that it depends on what games you want to play. If you're primarily into the RTS or FPS genres, then a PC is the way to go.


RE: You guys go ahead
By Chocobollz on 8/23/2007 6:05:35 AM , Rating: 2
LOL jtesoro, you're right ^ ^; It's depend on what games do we intend to play *but* nevertheless a PC will (almost) always get an emulator for particular consoles and (almost) no console have an emulator to play a different console game. It just like Apple vs. IBM-PC, one with a closed-architecture and the latter with an open-architecture, the one with open-architecture will always be better in terms of price/performance ratio vs. what you get, but once again, there's of course always an exceptions in this world ^ ^;


RE: You guys go ahead
By Chocobollz on 8/22/2007 11:47:46 PM , Rating: 1
Cheers up Spuke. Don't mind if your post is modded down. Personally I'm amazed by how peoples here responding to your messages. I think we all have a rights to put a comment in this article, as long as we're NOT offending some or more parties, and from what I'm seeing, your post is actually have not violated any terms. So, way to go man. I like your opinions about the 180 fps vs. 200 fps. I think most peoples here had forgot the <10% = insignificant rules LOL.

Cheers.


RE: You guys go ahead
By Mattz0r on 8/23/2007 12:49:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I like your opinions about the 180 fps vs. 200 fps. I think most peoples here had forgot the <10% = insignificant rules LOL.


And what happens when you realize that that 20 frame difference is more than 10%?


Confirmed by [H]
By Snowy on 8/22/07, Rating: -1
RE: Confirmed by [H]
By TomZ on 8/23/2007 8:39:41 AM , Rating: 2
Why did this post get downrated? It's pretty relevant.


RE: Confirmed by [H]
By DeepThought86 on 8/23/07, Rating: -1
RE: Confirmed by [H]
By James Holden on 8/23/2007 10:58:44 AM , Rating: 2
Probably because the link is just a mirror to Dailytech?


RE: Confirmed by [H]
By TomZ on 8/23/2007 1:31:21 PM , Rating: 1
Huh? The link is to another web site, as far as I can tell.


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