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Phil Harrison on PS3 gaming, Wii and 2007

Sony Computer Entertainment’s Executive Vice President Phil Harrison is known for giving interesting, and perhaps even controversial interviews. Harrison most recently spoke to MTV, and gave his views on his company’s main product, and that of a competitor’s.

When asked for his opinion on the PlayStation 3’s launch, Harrison said, “2007 is the year of software, is how I'll answer that,” perhaps acknowledging the lack of software for the new machine. He did go on to elaborate that the aim for PlayStation 3 games is to break free from the old model of buying a game, finishing it, and then never to play it again. “The video-game business for the past 20 years was about shipping closed experiences,” he said. The new trend, he hopes, is “the start of the relationship with the consumer is when you launch the game … Next year you're going to see user-created experiences in a number of interesting ways on PlayStation 3.”

Questioning then turned to Nintendo and its choice to explore alternative means of inputs for gaming. Harrison said, “Nintendo should be congratulated” for introducing a large number of non-gamers to the industry though the Nintendo DS’s ease of control with the stylus and touch screen. Without mentioning the Wii, he also acknowledged that 2006 is the year of the motion controller.

On the topic of PlayStation capabilities, Harrison said that it takes end-of-cycle games such as Gran Turismo 2 for the PSone and God of War II for the PS2 to full explore a system’s full potential. He believes that the current PS3 launch titles use “less than half” of the system’s computational power, but even more interesting is his bold statement that “Nobody will ever use 100 percent of its capability.” Whether he is implying that the PS3 has limitless potential or that developers will never fully overcome the complexities of the Cell architecture is unclear. In either case, gamers should expect better games in 2007.



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Perfect
By SaintSinner1 on 12/20/2006 11:01:49 AM , Rating: 4
I will buy PS3 when games will use it full potential and price for system will be half buhahahahahaha ....




RE: Perfect
By THEREALJMAN73 on 12/20/2006 11:04:03 AM , Rating: 2
The price and games available is holding me back too.

I wish Sony released the PS3 with a DVD drive and optional (internal) blu-ray at a later date to keep the prices down.

I really like the technology but dang I cannot stomach that $600.00 price tag.


RE: Perfect
By Ochophosphate on 12/20/2006 1:44:23 PM , Rating: 5
I agree, but I believe the issue is with the size of the games. Isn't Resistance something like 16-18gb? I think I read somewhere that Lair is up around 28gb. I may be wrong here, but isn't that a bit too big for a normal DVD? They wanted to go BlueRay so they could jam it full of more detail and still keep the game an acceptable length. Rather than make it beautiful, but only 2 hours long, or 6 discs long.

Regardless, I'm not going to pay $600 for any system, regardless of its capabilities. Not even if it came with an orgasmatron peripheral... and could brew beer... and cut aluminum cans without dulling its blade... and give a deep tissue shiatsu massage... you get the picture.

After all... it's just a game (system).


RE: Perfect
By walk2k on 12/20/2006 1:56:54 PM , Rating: 5
That's correct. The reason they didn't ship the base model without a BD drive is the same reason they didn't ship it without a HDD, developers historically will not spend the extra time and expense to fully support optional peripherals that only a percentage of users have.

(DVD is 9GB max, single-layer BD is 25 and dual-layer is over 50GB).

If you don't need the WiFi adapter, the 20GB model will save you $100. If you consider the 360 still costs more after you add on the HD-DVD drive ($400 for the 20GB 360 + $200 for the HD-DVD) then it's a hell of a bargain. Plus with the PS3 you can upgrade the HDD at market prices any time you want.

IMO if you want to go cheap, pick up a used PS2 for $89..
(Or a Wii.... if you can find one).


RE: Perfect
By ElJefe69 on 12/20/06, Rating: -1
RE: Perfect
By Sulphademus on 12/26/2006 4:39:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
ever wonder why it is called an x-box yet it is definitely... a box? maybe that is just me.


My theory involves Microsoft's Direct X which they have been using to control graphics in Windows for many moons.

The Box part? Well, not much worse than a Station that you Play at or maybe a Cube that plays Games .


RE: Perfect
By DigitalFreak on 12/20/2006 6:48:11 PM , Rating: 2
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If you consider the 360 still costs more after you add on the HD-DVD drive ($400 for the 20GB 360 + $200 for the HD-DVD) then it's a hell of a bargain


Stop with the reguritated Sony propaganda already. No one HAS to buy the 360 HD-DVD drive to play games on the 360.


RE: Perfect
By Goty on 12/20/06, Rating: 0
RE: Perfect
By Pandamonium on 12/20/2006 7:49:35 PM , Rating: 4
Comparing the XBox360 to the PS3 needs to be done carefully. Most people, I believe, look at either product as a gaming console. In that respect, the XBox is far "cheaper" than a PS3. A few people consider the PS3 as an all-in-one entertainment hub. The only way to compare a 360 with that is to pair the 360 with the optional HD-DVD accessory. But just because a vocal few believe the PS3 is more than a game console doesn't mean that the vast majority don't perceive both products as gaming consoles.

Personally, I view the PS3 as a gaming console. So as far as I'm concerned, it's a ripoff. If I want HD video, I'll buy a player that supports a dominant format. I don't want to pay extra for an unproven format. Sony doesn't give me that option; Microsoft does.


RE: Perfect
By otispunkmeyer on 12/21/2006 4:15:43 AM , Rating: 2
well said

as gaming consoles

360 would cost me £290 new, PS3 is supposed to be £425 when it comes. winner = 360

as the full multimedia package

360 would cost £290 + £130 = £420 an extra fiver gets you the PS3, with more HDD space, wifi and card reader and the option to simply upgrade the HDD with any old 2.5" drive and run linux

winner = PS3

personally ill be viewing them as gaming machines. im not a DVD buff/collector and i couldnt afford to replace the DVD's i do own at the moment.

the only reason i would buy a HD DVD drive for my 360 would be to test out the new HDTV my dads thinking of buying (UK HDTV hasnt really got going yet) and that'd be it.


RE: Perfect
By Kevil on 12/21/2006 8:46:15 AM , Rating: 2
The one thing I don't like about the 360 is the small peripherals you find yourself buying. For wireless access I purchased the adapter. Then I purchased two of the charge and play kits. The 360 is the first console I've ever felt the need to purchase any peripheral(besides a second controller). I'm not saying its a prerequisite to enjoy the system it just all quickly adds up and I would of preferred to have paid a little extra for all these peripherals to have come in the box.


RE: Perfect
By ani4ani on 12/21/2006 9:23:43 AM , Rating: 3
Dont forget that the PS3 can act as a genuine PC as well, i.e. as I have done with my Japan import [its an option in the setup], you can install a additional OS, e.g. Yellow Dog Linux etc. I can actually play PC games on my PS3 as well. Before long I fully expect to be able to connect my 360 HD DVD add-on to it as well. [its being worked on]

I have two 500 GB drives full of ripped DVD's [or legal I may add] connected to it as well. Proper USB 2 support unlike the 360 [I have 2 btw] is a nice feature.

Before long, Sony will allow "remote play and Video], i.e. if you have a PSP you will be able to play games loaded on your PS3 anywhere in the world if you have an internet connection - soon to be the same with media content, e.g. alla Location Free


RE: Perfect
By otispunkmeyer on 12/21/2006 4:08:24 AM , Rating: 2
i thought alot of the disc space used wasnt for mega hi res textures n stuff (because of the RSX and how the memory is shared - 512mb UMA in 360 256+256 in the PS3, though i think RSX can call upon Cells 256mb if needs be...at latency/speed cost) but was used for multiple languages (ie only 1 disc need be pressed) and lots of HD FMV sequences etc.

unless, and i would really like to see this, PS3 will use that french companies method of storing textures as "maths" and then having cell use its vast potential to reconstruct the high res textures from a mathmatical formula rather than storing the actual texture.

either way i honestly dont believe that the games are taking up so much space due to lots of textures or lots of uber hi-res textures because i just cant see the PS3's memory set up, nor the RSX (since it is only a pimped G70) being able to handle them


RE: Perfect
By ViperROhb34 on 12/21/2006 10:35:32 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I agree, but I believe the issue is with the size of the games. Isn't Resistance something like 16-18gb? I think I read somewhere that Lair is up around 28gb.


I read a thread and article at one site where someone had hacked Resitance Fall Of Man to see what was actually on the disc. The game itself is nowhere near what Sony advertises. Tyipically DVD's are put out in region specific areas. There are like 7 or 8 regions int he worlds. Sony the Japanese version DVD won't work in USA. Sony put all regions of Resistance on one Bluray Disc. Then for EVERY region there if about 400 megabytes of padding ( junk data for those of you who don't know that term ) so that the game data can be on the outide of the disc to be read faster.. and since the BD player in the PS3 already seems slow.. that padding probably helps. By the way padding is not new.. its been used on both Cd's and DVD's as well so that the 'Important' data is read faster.

I think it'll be a Good feature to be able to put data on one disc.. I've heard rumors that Blue Dragon ( coming from those Final Fantasy creators ? ) will be on at least THREE DVD's ... this isn't a major inconvience.. I mean popping in another disc is takes seconds and the 12x DVD player loads alot faster.


RE: Perfect
By GoatMonkey on 12/21/2006 1:44:08 PM , Rating: 2
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Not even if it came with an orgasmatron peripheral... and could brew beer... and cut aluminum cans without dulling its blade... and give a deep tissue shiatsu massage... you get the picture.

I don't know, those features might do it for me.


RE: Perfect
By Sulphademus on 12/26/2006 4:44:49 PM , Rating: 2
Well worth $600!


RE: Perfect
By CascadingDarkness on 12/20/2006 6:47:00 PM , Rating: 2
It seems to me that Sony just reached too far overall. They wanted all the new cool stuff. Fact is you pay extra for all the new cool stuff. (similar to buying new pc parts and paying +40% more than 3 month old parts)

What it comes down to is most people simply can't justify spending that much money unless they really used if for every single thing sony says it can be.

I buy consoles to play games, I build my PCs to play games and do everything else I want, so until price comes down I won't be taking a serious look. Just my thoughts.


RE: Perfect
By DigitalFreak on 12/20/2006 6:49:36 PM , Rating: 2
It's all about Sony trying to force Blu-ray on the market.


RE: Perfect
By masher2 (blog) on 12/21/2006 5:56:18 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly...which explains all the armed Sony employees hanging around Best Buy, pistol-whipping those who don't spend their money on Sony products. :-/

Seriously, no one "forces" you to buy anything. Sony is no different than any other company-- they offer you a product at a certain price. If you don't like the deal, pass on it. Voting with your wallet is persuasive indeed.