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Best Buy customers waiting for the clock to strike 12:01 A.M. for Halo 3  (Source: DailyTech)

Gamers discuss their Halo moments  (Source: DailyTech)
Fans nationwide lineup to buy Halo 3 at midnight

For most stores, this morning marks the first official day that Halo 3 may be sold to the consumer. To serve the rabid Halo fan, however, several select gaming chains and big box retailers held midnight launch events.

While midnight launches and long queues are now the norm for console hardware launches, it is only the very exceptionally anticipated title that would warrant such an event and the consumers to support it. Prior to Halo 3, the last game to receive such a welcome was the Burning Crusade expansion to the incomprehensibly World of Warcraft.

At a local Best Buy, gamers were lined up outside the store hours before midnight, though store workers told DailyTech that none had camped out overnight. The store worker wasn’t concerned about being short on supply, despite the high demand, as the store had around 1,500 copies across the three SKUs in the inventory.

As midnight neared, the queue outside the store grew around the city block, extending to as many as 300 people. Local television news crews were on location to cover the launch event and to interview several of the customers waiting in line.

Upon the store’s opening just after the jump to September 25, customers were ushered into the store in small groups to purchase Halo 3. As DailyTech reported earlier, a significant percentage of Halo 3 Limited Edition collector’s tins have shipped with scratched discs inside. The damaged discs are caused by an inadequate center hub that is unable to hold the discs securely in place.

Interestingly, the staff at Best Buy were well aware of the issue surrounding scratched discs, and have supposedly tested each of the boxes by shaking and listening for loose materials. Only the boxes that were free of sounds of loose discs were sold to customers.

The mainstream newswires are already comparing the day one launch revenues to the opening days of blockbuster movies series such as Spider-Man and Harry Potter. Many are expecting Halo 3’s launch to surpass Hollywood’s biggest, but mostly due to Halo 3’s higher average selling price compared to a box office ticket.



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Significant Percentage?
By clovell on 9/25/2007 10:52:00 AM , Rating: 5
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As DailyTech reported earlier, a significant percentage of Halo 3 Limited Edition collector’s tins have shipped with scratched discs inside.

You reported that some guys on a forum had some trouble with scratched disks. You didn't give a percentage and you sure as heck didn't make any kind of case for it being significant.
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Interestingly, the staff at Best Buy were well aware of the issue surrounding scratched discs, and have supposedly tested each of the boxes by shaking and listening for loose materials. Only the boxes that were free of sounds of loose discs were sold to customers.
I wonder just how many of those there were. It's good to see that they tested them. It's good that DT raised awareness on the issue. I just have a problem with sensational claims like 'significant percentage' when the source is a profile on a gaming forum.




RE: Significant Percentage?
By JackBurton on 9/25/2007 11:01:09 AM , Rating: 2
You're right, I'd say "significant percentage" is an understatement! I'd say more like 80%+ defect rate. They should pull ALL LEs off the shelf if you ask me. And this isn't hearsay, I was THERE while they opened LEs in front of me, one by one, and each one was scratched. They were swapping out regular game discs for LE game discs for people that paid for LEs and only had a scratched game disc.

Mark my words, there is going to be a big fiasco with the LEs.


RE: Significant Percentage?
By clovell on 9/25/2007 11:04:10 AM , Rating: 2
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I was THERE while they opened LEs in front of me, one by one, and each one was scratched.
Ah, well, that's a horse of a different color. I may end up downgrading my preorder if they can't gauruntee a decent LE; no way I could spend $120 on a single game and not end up sleeping in the backyard.


RE: Significant Percentage?
By JackBurton on 9/25/2007 11:08:03 AM , Rating: 2
I'd definitely recommend getting the regular version over the LE. That is, if you want a working game when you get home. :)


RE: Significant Percentage?
By clovell on 9/25/2007 11:16:39 AM , Rating: 3
Well, I just got off the phone with a friend who went to the release party at his local GameStop. After spending 4 hours in line, he told the guys there that he needed to jiggle the case to make sure the disk wasn't loose before he signed the receipt. They went one further and told him that if he opened it (after he bought it) and had a scratched disk, they'd replace it right there. He didn't have any problems, and said that GameStop must have known how to handle their stuff.

What sucked though, was that he went home and 20 minutes in, his box RROD'd (he got his in the second shipment of 360's). I'm hoping my local GameStop where I have my LE preordered handles it the same.


RE: Significant Percentage?
By JackBurton on 9/25/2007 11:25:50 AM , Rating: 2
I actually got mine at my local GameStop too.


RE: Significant Percentage?
By Omega215D on 9/26/2007 1:59:24 AM , Rating: 2
minutes in, his box RROD'd (he got his in the second shipment of 360's). I'm hoping my local GameStop where I have my LE preordered handles it the same."

So that was the source of the loud NOOOOOOOO I heard last night...


RE: Significant Percentage?
By Locutus465 on 9/25/2007 2:58:58 PM , Rating: 2
Mine came with Game Disk attached... I'm glad I didn't miss out on getting my LE due to recall.... Yes, it's a bad design, yes it should be fixed, perhaps they should offer a "tin exchange program"... But I don't see this as being a reason to stop the sales... The GameStop I went to had extra game discs on hand, and let us check our LE packages out side the door for damage. If anyone got a damaged game disc, they replaced it for you right then and there.


RE: Significant Percentage?
By peritusONE on 9/25/2007 12:53:27 PM , Rating: 6
As a Gamestop employee who worked last night, I wanted to add a quick note to this issue. I was the guy handing out the copies in the back, so my hands touched every LE that went out last night. The manuals do shift around, so just slightly shaking it doesn't give an accurate assessment of what's going on inside that sealed case. You have to listen for the disc to actually hit the side of the tin...it definitely makes it's own distinct sound.

Out of the 40 or 50 that I handed out last night, I can say that without a doubt almost all of them exhibited sounds that I relate to the disc being unattached and free inside the tin. The LE that I hand picked even had the discs loose inside, so even then, you can't go solely by sound.

However, the sad part is that if you snap the disc back onto the plastic nub, they hold damned well. The machines at the fabrication plant just weren't programmed to press them down hard enough for them to "snap" in place. It's not an issue with the plastic nub, it's an issue with their procedures and QA process.


Question...
By pauldovi on 9/25/2007 10:39:08 AM , Rating: 2
Would it be bad to play Halo 3 if you have never played Halo 2?




RE: Question...
By Connoisseur on 9/25/2007 10:42:18 AM , Rating: 2
Although i'm eagerly awaiting my copy, I suspect you won't understand most of the story without having played Halo 2. That being said, multiplayer's always a blast :)


RE: Question...
By JackBurton on 9/25/2007 10:48:57 AM , Rating: 4
Ahh, I played a little through H2 and got bored, but I still stood in line for H3. And let me give everyone here a warning, DO NOT GET THE LIMITED EDITION VERSION. Obviously it's your money, but that is just a friendly heads up. I had to go through about 7-10 LEs before I got a good one. And even then they had to piece it together for me in the store (one good game disc and then tried to find a good bonus disc). If you just go into the store and blindly pick one out, you've got an EXCELLENT chance of getting a scratched copy. I'd recommend the regular or the Legendary.

That is all.


RE: Question...
By R Nilla on 9/25/2007 10:47:03 AM , Rating: 6
Check this out:
http://forums.xbox.com/14748829/ShowPost.aspx

It's a video recap of the first two games, along with a summary of the books as well.

I have never played the first two campaigns, but now I at least now what happened.


RE: Question...
By Misty Dingos on 9/25/2007 10:54:04 AM , Rating: 5
Very bad. Do not tempt the fates. To be a member of the collective you must play all of the games. Halo, Halo 2, and then Halo 3. Only then will you be good with the great ethereal programmer (also known as TGSM). Thus you shall be anointed with the mantel of Game Player! You will be included in conversations at the local EB Games holy site concerning the penance required to receive Halo 4. So says the great ethereal programmer (also known as TGSM) so shall it be done!


RE: Question...
By Locutus465 on 9/25/2007 2:56:42 PM , Rating: 2
Won't make as much sense to you... I'd recommend playing Halo 2 first.


RE: Question...
By Fubar0606 on 9/25/2007 4:33:15 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I myself am not a console game, I hate the multiplayer for Halo, and whatnot, but I love the story line so I buy the games, Not in a hurry though for Halo 3, cus I got my Team Fortress 2 beta keeping me company ;) but yes if you havnt played Halo 2 dont bother with Halo 3, because there is a large leap from halo 1 to halo 3...


Thanks Marcus
By gsellis on 9/25/2007 11:20:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Halo 3 Midnight Launch Events Cater to Fans


Thanks Marcus. I was worried that a midnight launch for a new game was not going to cater to fans. Oh, was it obvious? ;)




RE: Thanks Marcus
By Marcus Yam on 9/25/2007 1:03:31 PM , Rating: 4
By day, I'm a mild-mannered technology reporter.

By night, I'm the sexy beast crime-fighter known as Captain Obvious .


RE: Thanks Marcus
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/25/2007 1:39:37 PM , Rating: 2
A sexy beast that needs to work on his night shooting skillz... or at least get a tripod ;-)


RE: Thanks Marcus
By gsellis on 9/26/2007 7:57:35 AM , Rating: 2
I almost put that in there.... That headline was worthy of Tanranto's Best of the Web section for obvious titles :P


RE: Thanks Marcus
By gsellis on 9/26/2007 8:03:05 AM , Rating: 2
Grrr... right now, I need Captain Spellcheck

... Taranto


Yeah....
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2007 12:28:53 PM , Rating: 2
I just picked it up at Best Buy where there's tons of copies.....

Sorry not all of us either don't have a job or are so desperate to play the game that we'll stay up till 2-3 am or skip work just to play it.

Now just have to get through the rest of the day at work.




RE: Yeah....
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2007 12:33:23 PM , Rating: 2
Oh and can definitely verify the Limited Edition disc problem. Every copy I picked up sounded like the disc was loose. And the two I opened, both were. The first the disc was had two small scratches that made me nervous. The second the disc was loose but the disc had only light mark on it that wasn't enough to concern me.

However a co-worker who bought it at Target, his disc wasn't loose.

If you're getting the Limited Edition, definitely open it there at the counter before you leave the store.


RE: Yeah....
By peritusONE on 9/25/2007 1:06:41 PM , Rating: 2
For a man who isn't desperate to play the game, you sure are looking at the clock at work a little too hard.....


RE: Yeah....
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2007 1:46:00 PM , Rating: 2
I'm like the Chinese guy from Heroes. I'm trying to stop time.


RE: Yeah....
By Sazar on 9/25/2007 9:22:11 PM , Rating: 2
If by Chinese guy, you mean Japanese guy than yes, you are indeed like the Chinese guy from Heroes who can stop time :)


RE: Yeah....
By colonelclaw on 9/26/2007 8:27:15 AM , Rating: 2
but if you stopped time wouldn't you also stop your pc?

that would make for a lousy frame rate


:) - just for fun
By bhieb on 9/25/2007 11:13:21 AM , Rating: 4
This is a little vauge.
quote:
Interestingly, the staff at Best Buy were well aware of the issue surrounding scratched discs, and have supposedly tested each of the boxes by shaking and listening for loose materials.

What was Interesting? The fact that a BB employee knew anything, or the fact that they didn't go ahead and try to sell the bad ones.




RE: :) - just for fun
By totallycool on 9/25/2007 2:31:57 PM , Rating: 2
Or... After making the statement, they still went about selling the bad ones ;)


Oh geez.
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2007 10:38:21 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Gamers discuss their Halo moments


This one time, at band camp.....




RE: Oh geez.
By RjBass on 9/25/2007 10:42:16 AM , Rating: 2
I camped out for Grateful Dead tickets once.

But never for a game console or movie.


How about dont waste your money, put it into a
By Soldier38 on 9/25/07, Rating: 0
RE: How about dont waste your money, put it into a
By Sazar on 9/25/2007 9:31:16 PM , Rating: 2
Gaming console == 399-449 or so. Game == 59 bucks. Add a display for X amount of money (I am using a Dell 2407 personally so say 500 bucks). Perfect frame rate and great/proven online gaming experience. Plus 4 person co-op in "single" player mission mode.

How much will a system capable of running Crysis run you? You need a 24" display minimum for the resolution you speak of, a graphics card that costs more than both the game and the console for an Xbox 360/Halo 3 combo put together and then you still need a processor, memory, hdd, controller and what not.

Real gaming? You don't think it's just slightly daft to make the pre-teen comment you just did and then accuse console gamers of being 12 year olds?

:)


By Omega215D on 9/26/2007 2:08:58 AM , Rating: 2
Crysis is supposedly playable on a PC that's 3 years old according to the developer.

From MaximumPC: Yerli: "Most important to us is that we scale Crysis from a three year old configuration (by release date) to a current and next-gen configuration and take maximum performance from the available hardware. Our benchmark has been to compete for various generations of games shipped around them. For example, our min spec is competing with Far Cry, and that's over three and a half years old."

Piecewise upgrading can be had with a PC as well. There's no such thing as a perfect frame rate on any console.


By Runiteshark on 9/26/2007 2:25:52 AM , Rating: 1
I run 2048x1536 and its on a CRT that I paid $50* for.

In fact, I can run it at 3600x2400 at 72hz without any issues either. I probably could go all the way to 4096x3072 without issues.

La Cie Electron Blue II, It dominates your lcd, and all other LCDs, period. It even dominates all other CRTs.

*Some guy was selling it on Craigslist, and I did a double-take. Normally, these bad boys go for 200 and up (Yes these CRTs still go for $200, there that good) but this guy didn't know what he had and I snagged it for $50 bucks.


Significant Percentage?
By clovell on 9/25/2007 10:52:05 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
As DailyTech reported earlier, a significant percentage of Halo 3 Limited Edition collector’s tins have shipped with scratched discs inside.

You reported that some guys on a forum had some trouble with scratched disks. You didn't give a percentage and you sure as heck didn't make any kind of case for it being significant.
quote:
Interestingly, the staff at Best Buy were well aware of the issue surrounding scratched discs, and have supposedly tested each of the boxes by shaking and listening for loose materials. Only the boxes that were free of sounds of loose discs were sold to customers.
I wonder just how many of those there were. It's good to see that they tested them. It's good that DT raised awareness on the issue. I just have a problem with sensational claims like 'significant percentage' when the source is a profile on a gaming forum.




RE: Significant Percentage?
By clovell on 9/25/2007 10:53:56 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure how I managed a double, so I apologize for making a complete noob of myself. *shame*


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