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Halo 3 continues to deliver for Bungie, Microsoft

Everyone knew that Halo 3 would be a blockbuster for Microsoft. The game was hyped to no end and developers at Bungie even acknowledged that their efforts with Halo 2 weren't the greatest and that Halo 3 would right all of those wrongs.

Halo 3 lived up to the hype and recorded first-day sales of over $170 million USD and garnered nearly universal praise.

"Halo 3 has become a pop-culture phenomenon," said Shane Kim of Microsoft's Game Studios. "Not only is Halo 3 setting sales records, it's also redefining entertainment... Within the first 20 hours alone, we've seen more than a million Xbox Live members come online to play Halo 3 - that makes September 25 the most active Xbox Live gaming day in history."

Microsoft is once again playing the numbers game and today announced that Halo 3's first-week sales broke the $300 million USD mark. In addition, retailers are reporting the sales of the Xbox 360 console roughly doubled during the first week of Halo 3 availability.

Moreover, almost one-third of players on Xbox Live during launch day were playing Halo 3. Halo 3 players recorded over 3.6 million hours of online play during the first 24 hours of availability and over 40 million hours during the first week of availability.

"Halo is truly a cultural phenomenon, and the launch of Halo 3 is an important milestone for Xbox 360 and for video games as entertainment and as an art form," said Microsoft founder Bill Gates. "Halo 3 embodies our vision for the future of entertainment, where some of the world's greatest creative minds will deliver a new generation of interactive storytelling."

Halo 3 is available in three versions: Standard Edition ($59.99), Limited Edition ($69.99) and Legendary Edition ($129.99).



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Righting the wrongs
By therealnickdanger on 10/4/2007 1:12:57 PM , Rating: 3
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Bungie even acknowledged that their efforts with Halo 2 weren't the greatest and that Halo 3 would right all of those wrongs.

Unfortunately they didn't right them all...

Fall damage. Is the name Mario Chief? No, he's a 1,000lbs death-dealer. When he lands from over 30ft, it's gonna sting, I don't care how advanced the suit is.

Pistol. The new pistol would almost be tolerable if it had a scope. The power is decent, but I shall always lament the lack of the H1 pistol.

FOV. Why did they chicken out on the field of vision AGAIN? H1 had nearly a 90-degree viewable FOV. It allowed you to take in so much more of your surroundings and made it easier to track targets. H3 follows in the footsteps of H2 with about 20 degrees shy.

Custom controls. Why can't we map our own damn buttons? It's 2007! No, I don't want your ******* lame presets!

Warthog still blows. Making it slower and destructable isn't "cooler". It's funny, now the Mongoose is about as fast as the H1 Hog and with the exception of no side passenger, fills the void that Bungie created by nerfing the H1 Hog. Why not just skip the Mongoose and bring back the original H1 Hog?

Sounds. Why does Bungie brag about "better sound" in H2 and H3, when the melee, warthog, and guns sound less substantial? Why not use the same sound fonts for the Warthog and assualt rifle from H1? They sound better.

Arbiter. I'm fine with him being there during single player, but I would really prefer that you at least have the option to play as multiple Spartans instead.

Grenades. Again - they are too weak and not as good as H1 'nades. With the "catch" skull activated, it is much better. I wish there was a "Halo 1 Skull".

All those complaints aside, I have thoroughly enjoyed the campaign multiple times, it is dramatically superior to Halo 2 in nearly every way. And while superior to Halo 1 in features, I still prefer the Halo 1 game engine. It just feels better. Halo 3 is awesome.




RE: Righting the wrongs
By Aikouka on 10/4/2007 1:26:46 PM , Rating: 2
You can change some of the buttons for various game types in your Gamer Profile on the XBOX Dashboard. I know the fire button can be changed, but I'm not sure about the others.


RE: Righting the wrongs
By peritusONE on 10/4/2007 1:52:45 PM , Rating: 1
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Unfortunately they didn't right them all...

Fall damage. Is the name Mario Chief? No, he's a 1,000lbs death-dealer. When he lands from over 30ft, it's gonna sting, I don't care how advanced the suit is.

I love when people question the damage that needs to be dealt from a 30-foot drop in a game where you are out to destory structures that were made by an alien race thousands of years ago that can wipe out all of the galaxy. "Damn it, I want realism when I jump off a 30-foot cliff onto the back of a giant scarab!!"
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Pistol. The new pistol would almost be tolerable if it had a scope. The power is decent, but I shall always lament the lack of the H1 pistol.

It's the one shot, one kill that you want back, not the scope. The scope is nothing without the amazing accuracy of the weapon in H1. Why not just use a sniper rifle, it does just as well compared to why everyone loved the original pistol.
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FOV. Why did they chicken out on the field of vision AGAIN? H1 had nearly a 90-degree viewable FOV. It allowed you to take in so much more of your surroundings and made it easier to track targets. H3 follows in the footsteps of H2 with about 20 degrees shy.

The H3 FOV is MUCH better than H2, they are hardly the same. I haven't played H1 in a while, so I can't compare, but I find nothing wrong with the H3 FOV. Nor have I heard any complaints about it (besides your own, of course).
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Custom controls. Why can't we map our own damn buttons? It's 2007!

Agreed. Although I think the default setup is perfectly fine, I see no reason not to include the option to remap your own config in today's games.
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Warthog still blows. Making it slower and destructable isn't "cooler". It's funny, now the Mongoose is about as fast as the H1 Hog and with the exception of no side passenger, fills the void that Bungie created by nerfing the H1 Hog. Why not just skip the Mongoose and bring back the original H1 Hog?

I find the Mongoose a lot faster than the H1 Warthog. I also do not see much difference in the Warthog between all 3 games, it's stayed about the same IMO. If the Warthog is slower as you say, that's a good thing IMO, since it's infinitely more powerful of a weapon than the mongoose. If you need firepower, you go with the Warthog and a partner. If you need speed, you get on the Mongoose. You can't have the best of both worlds, which balances things.

Between this and the pistol gripes, I'm gathering a pretty good guess as to how you possibly dominated H1 LAN parties.....
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Sounds. Why does Bungie brag about "better sound" in H2 and H3, when the melee, warthog, and guns sound less substantial? Why not use the same sound fonts for the Warthog and assualt rifle from H1? They sound better.

Everything sounds the same to me.... *shrug*
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Arbiter. I'm fine with him being there during single player, but I would really prefer that you at least have the option to play as multiple Spartans instead.

Is that really a legitimate gripe? I think it's cool that they've stuck to the story of MC being the last surviving spartan, and ensure that it still looks that way when playing co-op.
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Grenades. Again - they are too weak and not as good as H1 'nades. With the "catch" skull activated, it is much better. I wish there was a "Halo 1 Skull".

I've not seen this at all. How are they too weak? If you put them close enough to an enemy, they will die, simple as that. If you think they are too weak now, you're just pissed because Bungie has taken away your ability to kill while being bad at throwing nades.
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All those complaints aside, I have thoroughly enjoyed the campaign multiple times, it is dramatically superior to Halo 2 in nearly every way. And while superior to Halo 1 in features, I still prefer the Halo 1 game engine. It just feels better. Halo 3 is awesome.

Agreed that Halo 3 is awesome.


RE: Righting the wrongs
By therealnickdanger on 10/4/2007 3:33:07 PM , Rating: 2
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Damn it, I want realism!!

My complaint may have concerned reality, but my need for fall damage has to do with better tactical gameplay. Being allowed to bounce all over a map with zero consequences is just sloppy. Fall damage makes you think a bit harder about your surroundings when placing your shots. When push comes to shove, you might make the fall if you crouch at the right moment, which requires more skill. If I wanted to play UT or Quake, I would.

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It's the one shot, one kill that you want back, not the scope.

Why wouldn't I want it back? OSKs (one-shot kills) are rare, but TSKs (three-shot kills) are why the pistol was sweet. It required skill to pull of consistently. The H1 pistol is awesomely powerful and versatile, no doubt. Instead, we get the battle rifle. The BR is essentially a 3-shot pistol. Insane accuracy and range... with two extra shots. In essence, they automated the TSK of the pistol, thereby noobifying the game. I would stop complaining about the lack of H1 pistol if I was offered a single-shot mode for the BR. With the BR, I can headshot three grunts in formation at once - which is l337 and cool and all, but it's just cooler to single-shot when I want. I wouldn't be complaining if Bungie hadn't given it to me in first place then taken it away. They keep making excuses and replacing it with other weapons that are every bit as "unbalanced". Giving us a 2X mode on the pistol would just make it more useful mid-to-long range weapon and worth carrying.

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I haven't played H1 in a while, so I can't compare

H3's FOV is not "much" better than H2. They simply aren't employing the same widescreen cheat H2 used (vertical cutoff). Believe me, I have played so much H1 and HPC to know the difference, more than should be legally allowed. H2/3 are very visually restricted by comparison to H1.

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You can't have the best of both worlds, which balances things.

Yeah, the Mongoose is faster than the H1 Hog by a small amount - definitely much quicker accelleration. Throw H1 in and take a hog for a spin, it moves nearly the same as the Moongoose in every way - speed as well. As far as firepower, have you even played the H3 campaign? Equip a marine with a rocket launcher/fuel rod and have him get on the back of the Mongoose. You'll be able to beat any level without firing a single shot - just drive and your AI partner will clean up for you. Even in multi, having an ally with a heavy on back of the goose is "unbalanced".

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I think it's cool that they've stuck to the story of MC being the last surviving spartan

That's just it, he's not. There are several other Spartans still alive. The books (of which I have only read one) detail the missions they are on. The MC isn't alone.

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you're just pissed because Bungie has taken away your ability to kill while being bad at throwing nades.

Cute, but wrong. The H2/H3 nades are simply weaker than H1. I don't know why I can't complain about having sh*ttier nades. Like I said, though, the Catch Skull brings the nades up to H1 performance and allows for devastating chain-reactions that will claim your own life if you're not careful (forcing better tactical decisions). H1 nades are better, period. I like the new flame nade though! Great addition!

Dual-wielding is just a gimmick with zero value. Just give me one better weapon, please... like H1. I'm a meat'n'potatos type a guy. All three games are easily beaten on Legendary with some nades, a pistol/BR, and a shotgun. Dont' need nuthin else.

I'm gonna sound like a H1 snob here (because I admit I am) and say that you just haven't played H1 enough. For you to say that you can't tell the difference between the H1/2/3 fundamentals (FOV, Hog, weapons, physics, sounds) speaks volumes to me about your lack of Halo experience. God, I'm a nerd. Sorry.


RE: Righting the wrongs
By peritusONE on 10/4/2007 9:30:47 PM , Rating: 1
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My complaint may have concerned reality, but my need for fall damage has to do with better tactical gameplay. Being allowed to bounce all over a map with zero consequences is just sloppy.

Hmmm, how to respond.... Let's look at your next comments....
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Why wouldn't I want it back? OSKs (one-shot kills) are rare, but TSKs (three-shot kills) are why the pistol was sweet.

So much for that realism thing you were wanting to go for. Not saying that you can't kill someone with a pistol with one or three shots in real life, but they might as well put a lone pistol in the middle of maps instead of the spartan laser or rocket launcher.
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Giving us a 2X mode on the pistol would just make it more useful mid-to-long range weapon and worth carrying.

There goes that realistic thing you were wanting again. A pistol should never be a "useful mid-to-long range weapon". You say you want tactics, but then you want to be able to three-shot-kill an enemy across the map. You don't want tactics, you want easy kills.
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H2/3 are very visually restricted by comparison to H1.

I simply disagree. Just to make sure, I checked out some gameplay pictures on the net, and I still disagree with you. H1 was great, H2 was horrible, H3 may not return to H1 FOV, but it's still very useable and not at all obtrusive like H2 was.
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As far as firepower, have you even played the H3 campaign? Equip a marine with a rocket launcher/fuel rod and have him get on the back of the Mongoose. You'll be able to beat any level without firing a single shot - just drive and your AI partner will clean up for you. Even in multi, having an ally with a heavy on back of the goose is "unbalanced".

Sure, the AI with a rocket launcher gives you unlimited firepower and highly accurate shots. But the mongoose goes so fast, you need to be a great driver to not flip it repeatedly in order to go through an entire level with it. Plus, on higher difficulty levels, I guarantee you won't go through an entire level by how you describe.

Also, I disagree with a match being unbalanced with a 2-man mongoose driving around. It's much harder for a person on the back of a speeding mongoose to shoot accurately, especially with a bad driver.. Not unbalanced at all.
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That's just it, he's not. There are several other Spartans still alive. The books (of which I have only read one) detail the missions they are on. The MC isn't alone.

Which book was it? Besides, the other Spartans aren't there with MC, so it still fubars the story to have multiple spartans running around. My experience with the books goes as far as thinking that all the rest of the spartans were killed at the battle of Reach.

But nonetheless, that's a petty argument, and proves nothing. I simply cannot see you listing a legitimate gripe about playing as other characters in co-op. It's all aesthetic, it's not like you're handicapped in any way having to play as other characters.
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Cute,

Thanks, I try. :)
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Dual-wielding is just a gimmick with zero value. Just give me one better weapon, please... like H1. I'm a meat'n'potatos type a guy. All three games are easily beaten on Legendary with some nades, a pistol/BR, and a shotgun. Dont' need nuthin else.

Everything in this game is a gimmick....it's sci-fi afterall. Dual-weilding gives you double the firepower, I don't see how it's a gimmick. Zero value? Technically, it's 2x value, unless you're just really good with nades, and would be better off with that ability in a firefight instead of an extra weapon.
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I'm gonna sound like a H1 snob here (because I admit I am) and say that you just haven't played H1 enough. For you to say that you can't tell the difference between the H1/2/3 fundamentals (FOV, Hog, weapons, physics, sounds) speaks volumes to me about your lack of Halo experience. God, I'm a nerd. Sorry.

I played quite a bit of H1 in the day. Everything about H3 is better than H1. Like I said before, it sounds like to me that you had your H1 skills down pat, which I can respect. But naturally, H2 and then H3 changed things up a lot. Again, naturally, you do not like it. And you let that subconsious hate bring out all these petty arguments against H3. You're reading too much into it without even realizing it.

IMO, the FOV is perfectly acceptable, the warthog is perfectly acceptable and balanced with the other vehicles in the game, the physics are better in H3 (when did you bring physics into this?), and the sounds are better.

Oh, and apology accepted. :P


RE: Righting the wrongs
By therealnickdanger on 10/5/2007 12:28:44 AM , Rating: 3
I'd comment back, but I doubt I'll persuade you in any way... plus I'd be "that guy" on the Interweb who argues about videogame tactics. I think what we're all trying to say is that H1 was great, H2 wasn't so great, and H3 is great.


RE: Righting the wrongs
By peritusONE on 10/5/2007 7:56:11 AM , Rating: 2
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I'd comment back, but I doubt I'll persuade you in any way... plus I'd be "that guy" on the Interweb who argues about videogame tactics. I think what we're all trying to say is that H1 was great, H2 wasn't so great, and H3 is great.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing with you or trying to change your mind on anything, just making conversation :). This is a videogame article, feel free to talk tactics.

But yes, H1 = great, H2 = could've been better, H3 = great (better than H1 IMO :P).


RE: Righting the wrongs
By lufoxe on 10/4/2007 2:13:56 PM , Rating: 2
dude, halo was good, but, not as well balanced as 3. The 'nades being nerfed is not a bad thing considering you start with 2 after you die. If you were good at throwing them, there wouldn't be a problem. The pistol gripes... it's a pistol... most of pistols in real life don't have scopes to begin with. I think it's ok without a scope since it left it as it should be, a side arm, not a sniping weapon. Yes I was good with the pistol in H1, but I'm glad with the changes, especially dual wielding.

The worthog hasn't changed at all, if anything it's remained stagnant in a game where other vehicles have gotten better.

Custom controls.. not that much of an issues since almost everyone uses the default scheme (I'm not including inverse). The game is great, you'll probably still be playing it for a while. Also, nostalgia effects people alot, so pick up your copy of H1 again, and see how it is.

P.S. congrats to bungie on their sales of Halo 3. (to stay relevant to the article)


RE: Righting the wrongs
By drakanious on 10/4/2007 3:07:58 PM , Rating: 2
In the books, several Spartans jump out of a plane (at high altitude) without parachutes, and though they took damage and trees slowed them down, most all of them survived. The reason they didn't all die is three-fold:
1. Their bones had impact-resistant carbide grafted to them.
2. Their muscles densities were increased by several fold because of chemical injections.
3. Their Mjolnir armor had a gel-layer which prevent their bodies from banging around in their suits and which helped absorb impacts--specifically, these Spartans (if I remember correctly) tuned their armor so that it thought atmospheric pressure was way higher than it actually was so the gel-layer would stiffen in preparation for impact.

1,000 pounds, yes, but 1,000 pounds of flesh and machinery tuned for exactly this kind of thing.

Also, fiction. =)


RE: Righting the wrongs
By augiem on 10/4/2007 9:20:21 PM , Rating: 2
Oh boy... Why do fantasy authors have to geek everything up so bad? Everything is the same these days.


RE: Righting the wrongs
By shaw on 10/4/2007 3:12:12 PM , Rating: 2
Fall damage from what I remember was removed from Halo 2 because when you used the plasma sword the lunge would count as a fall and kill you. Instead of trying to fix it, they took the easy way out. I agree that without fall it does make things less challenging, but it'll probably never be back because of people loving it too much.

You aren't kidding about the nerfed pistol. I thought it was fine in H2. I admit that the H1 pistol was too uber.

I agree with the rest of your points completely. :)


RE: Righting the wrongs
By clovell on 10/4/2007 5:31:22 PM , Rating: 2
Okay, you can't in the same post criticize the lack of fall damage as unrealistic and then ask for a scope on the pistol. There is no scope on the pistol - never has been. For some reason, though, in the first Halo, you were able to zoom - but there was no scope.


merchandising merchandising!
By nerdye on 10/4/2007 12:31:36 PM , Rating: 5
merchandising merchandising!

get your space balls lunchbox!
get your space balls tooth paste!
get your space balls yogurt action figure!

Replace space balls with halo 3 and
mel brooks with bill gates!

=)




RE: merchandising merchandising!
By dflynchimp on 10/4/2007 12:34:32 PM , Rating: 2
classic XD


RE: merchandising merchandising!
By therealnickdanger on 10/4/2007 12:39:09 PM , Rating: 2
I wish I could rate and reply. So awesome.

Space Balls... THE FLAMETHROWER!

LOL XD


RE: merchandising merchandising!
By Bioniccrackmonk on 10/4/2007 12:53:17 PM , Rating: 1
You just have to rate first then reply, unfortunate you only get to use one vote per thread though.

Awesome reference though.


RE: merchandising merchandising!
By Verran on 10/4/2007 1:05:49 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, if you rate then reply, your rating goes away. You should watch next time you do it. You'll see whatever rating you submitted reversed after your post goes up. It's kinda too bad in cases like this, but I can definitely see why they do it that way.

Anyways, it IS a great reference :)


RE: merchandising merchandising!
By Orbs on 10/4/2007 4:42:53 PM , Rating: 2
Hillarious!

Man I feel like a n00b... What's XD? Thanks :)


RE: merchandising merchandising!
By kinnoch on 10/4/2007 5:51:38 PM , Rating: 2
XD is a really happy blinking person (X is the eyes, D is the mouth). It took me forever to figure out why people ended messages with XD haha.


RE: merchandising merchandising!
By Spivonious on 10/4/2007 2:00:03 PM , Rating: 2
I told you never to call me on this wall. This is an unlisted wall!


By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/4/2007 2:07:07 PM , Rating: 3
Spaceball 1, it's gone from Suck to Blow!


Marketing
By augiem on 10/4/2007 1:15:07 PM , Rating: 4
It's funny to think back to the days of pre Halo 1 when the marketing and hype around the game was so different. Back then, the hype was intense, yes, but it was all done through different channels. They built up the hype in a more behind-the-scenes, viral marketing method and marketed the game primarily at enthusiasts. The gaming press worshipped the game years before it ever saw the light of day, but we didn't see it really become part of pop-culture like Halo 3 has. Today Halo is a recognizable brand/franchise around the world and their marketing scheme has shifted to the standard blockbuster movie model with all their Game Fuel, car promos, fast food junk toys, etc. They've moved from targeting the gaming enthusiast to targeting the entire joe-blow entertainment market using tried and true (and trite!) marketing tools.

Microsoft is a marketing genius. Everyone else will follow their lead, and soon. The summer blockbuster season for movies has become the christmas blockbuster season for games. We are truely now firmly in the era of Blockbuster gaming. Gaming is and will continue to look to the movie industry for guidance on how to rake in the most cash from the biggest possible audience.(marketing methods, storylines, merchandising, advertising woven into the story, etc) Whether you love it or hate it, it's here, and MS was a pioneer. It's the new hollywood, and it's only going to get BIGGER.

I just wish game developers over the last 10-15 years had taken more pride in their art instead of constantly looking at movies as the shining example of what gaming should become. (People in the game industry always had a feeling of playing 2nd fiddle to the movie people, as if their art wasn't valid in and of itself.) The two worlds used to be so different and unique, but now look at them. Oh well. Money wins.




Just think.
By pauldovi on 10/4/2007 1:46:12 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft makes what ~$40 off of each Halo license? (remember they don't sell it to walmart for $60...)

But think of all the secondary incomes:
- Xbox Live subscriptions
- Xbox 360 purchases
- Xbox accessory purchases

They probably make more off of those than the actual game...




RE: Just think.
By augiem on 10/4/2007 2:32:08 PM , Rating: 2
I'd be very interested in knowing their profit margin on this game vs movie tickets. That could shift the $170m figure dramatically either way.

Cost of production of the game is WAYYY lower than some movies I would assume with some of those over $250m.

I don't think $40 would be accurate though. Probably less.

Also, I wonder what cut Bungie gets from each? 5%?


You are an obsession...
By daftrok on 10/4/07, Rating: -1
RE: You are an obsession...
By Gul Westfale on 10/4/2007 12:22:49 PM , Rating: 4
that song sucked in the 80s, and it still sucks now.


RE: You are an obsession...
By retrospooty on 10/4/2007 12:58:12 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... Truer word have never been spoken (unless spoken about any Laura Branigan song).


RE: You are an obsession...
By vortmax on 10/4/2007 1:39:09 PM , Rating: 2
LOL- the fact that you knew her name is scary!! :)


RE: You are an obsession...
By Oregonian2 on 10/4/2007 1:57:40 PM , Rating: 2
Laura Branigan... sigh.... WOW!!!

Got all her CD's...

Sigh....


RE: You are an obsession...
By vortmax on 10/4/07, Rating: 0
RE: You are an obsession...
By pnyffeler on 10/4/2007 3:59:02 PM , Rating: 2
So what you're saying is that you want to have sex with the Halo 3 DVD?

If you can pull that off, I feel sorry for your girlfriend.


RE: You are an obsession...
By augiem on 10/4/2007 4:27:28 PM , Rating: 3
well, it does have that little round hole there...


I agree
By IceTron on 10/4/07, Rating: -1
Will it sell more?
By GhandiInstinct on 10/4/07, Rating: -1
RE: Will it sell more?
By augiem on 10/4/2007 12:51:39 PM , Rating: 5
Not all of them. I will buy it someday, but not now. Don't have a 360 and am not going to buy one at this time. I'll probably get the game a year or so late, which is what I did with Halo 1 and 2. You can save some serious green gaming a year behind the curve and the games are exactly the same.


RE: Will it sell more?
By aos007 on 10/4/2007 1:21:38 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't buy it yet either, not because I don't have an Xbox360 but because mine has been out for repairs since July (yes, over 3 months without a console now). Makes no sense to buy any games (except when there's a super deal) while I am trying to get Microsoft to ship me my console back.

But I can see some logic in the argument that most of the sales have already occurred. A lot of people who haven't bought one yet are going to buy it used. Just look at any EB store - soon after release of Halo 2 they were littered with used Halo 2 games and they have a huge stock to this day. Yes, people will still be buying Halo 3 but many may buy it used.

As for gaming behind the curve - if you can stand to wait - it is indeed extremely cost effective. Especially PC gaming - buying a last-gen midrange card and a year-old games can yield savings of over 50% easily. Not to mention that you will most likely end up with a better gameplay experience (frame rates, patches and driver compatibility). I don't have the willpower for that, but I try to at least make a point to wait on $10 off sale before I buy any game (except must-have-now ones). It's too bad that most of us demand instant gratification.


RE: Will it sell more?
By augiem on 10/4/2007 3:02:10 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, the point about the PC hardware is right on. I'm using a 7950 GT right now (paid $150 for it last year) and it's great for all but the latest whiz bang stuff. (Runs C&C3 great though.)

I've just been so out of the hype and having to have the latest and greatest for such a long time now. I've got so many old games I wish I had time to play, it stopped making sense to keep buying the new ones only to let them collect dust.


RE: Will it sell more?
By novacthall on 10/4/2007 12:51:46 PM , Rating: 2
So after week one all sales potential has been consumed? What world are you living in where that has ever happened, to anything?


RE: Will it sell more?
By MooseMuffin on 10/4/2007 1:03:10 PM , Rating: 2
So nobody is going to get Halo and a 360 for the holidays?


RE: Will it sell more?
By StillPimpin on 10/4/2007 1:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. I also think that it has done really well in capturing the attention of its niche. The only place that it can go from here is down.

But what I'm really curious about is how many consoles did it sell? That is why games become exclusive, to sell consoles. If Halo hasn't produced a significant bump in console sales, Microsoft is in trouble as far as this generation console wars go.

It's supposed to be one of the biggest releases this year. Microsoft has a lot riding on the success of Halo 3. It has already done exceptionally well from a units sold perspective, but I think that this game was supposed to sell a lot of 360's, and as far as I can tell that hasn't happened.

Everyone I know that purchased the game already owned a 360. So that still leaves the question, how many people bought a 360 for this game and how many more even want it?


RE: Will it sell more?
By MooseMuffin on 10/4/2007 1:22:11 PM , Rating: 2
Hard to say in the long term, but the story says that 360 sales have roughly doubled compared to last week.


RE: Will it sell more?
By Oregonian2 on 10/4/2007 2:00:23 PM , Rating: 2
You make it sound like selling a record third of a Billion dollars of a game in one week is a failure and a disaster for Microsoft.

Huh?


RE: Will it sell more?
By bryanW1995 on 10/4/2007 2:36:34 PM , Rating: 4
1 2 3 4 5? that sounds like the combination some idiot would use on his luggage!


RE: Will it sell more?
By StillPimpin on 10/4/2007 3:08:58 PM , Rating: 2
Not at all. That is an excellent accomplishment no matter how much marketing was put behind it. I'm just saying that in the coming weeks and months, they can’t possibly hope to match the success that they have had in the first week.

Think iPhone.


RE: Will it sell more?
By augiem on 10/4/2007 2:57:33 PM , Rating: 3
Microsoft is a very close 2nd to Nintendo thus far, so I don't think they're really in trouble yet to any degree. In fact, the original Xbox sold 24 million in its first 5 years (wikipedia). The 360 is made it to 12 million in 1.5 years (wikipedia). That's very good compared to the original. (Even the old Sega Genesis only sold ~30m over its lifetime).

Of course, there is no PS2 dominator in this gen yet, but that probably won't show up for 2-3 more years yet when prices drop dramatically.


RE: Will it sell more?
By weskurtz0081 on 10/4/2007 4:23:12 PM , Rating: 2
Hold on, you are basing your opinion on how many consoles sold with the millions of Halo copies, all on some people you know? So, how many people 100? 1000? No where close to 3 million, give me a break man!


RE: Will it sell more?
By weskurtz0081 on 10/4/2007 4:24:52 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, I got the revenue mixed up with the number of units sold. So, over 1 million, not around 3 million.


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