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"Quietly brilliant?" Not so much.

The most anticipated smartphone launch of the spring -- the Galaxy S IV -- was held yesterday in New York City.  Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) largely delivered on the hype, with a smartphone packed with proprietary touchless control technologies, a 1080p screen, and a greatly improved camera.  Critics pointed to the larger size as potentially being too much, and attacked the plastic case design, but that didn't stop Samsung from receiving a lot of positive press.

That good show appears to have Samsung's foes rattled.  Following Apple, Inc.'s (AAPLpre-event media blitz trashing on the GSIV, fellow Android phonemaker HTC Corp. (TPE:2498) has tagged in with some attacks of its own.

The company posted attack posts on Twitter during the launch event.  One post parodied Samsung's tagline of "The Next Big Thing" with the hash-tag "#theNextBigFlop".

Outside the Samsung event, HTC team members demoed their rival HTC One device. The handed out cocoa and $100 coupons for the HTC One.  Comments HTC President Jason Mackenzie to All Things D, "For us it’s a good opportunity to let people compare real-time.  We have the best smartphone in the world right now, and we want to seize the opportunity to get it into as many hands as possible."

HTC One 360 view
The HTC One

The Taiwanese company's CMO Ben Ho followed up with some more insults, commenting:

With a continuation of a plastic body, and a larger screen being the most obvious physical change, Samsung's new Galaxy pales in comparison to the all-aluminum unibody HTC One.

This is more of the same. HTC remains the best option for those people looking for the best technology wrapped in premium design. Our customers want something different from the mainstream, who appear to be the target for the Galaxy.

Our customers want original cutting-edge technology, mouth-watering design and a premium feel from their mobiles, which is why we created the HTC One.

He also told Engadget, "Looking at the software features of the S4, we think Samsung spent more on marketing than innovation."

HTC currently has a much lower margin per-device than Samsung.  And HTC has bled money as Samsung has turned big profits.  Currently HTC is in a distant third in the U.S. market it was once on top of, behind Apple and Samsung.

Samsung Galaxy S IV
The Samsung Galaxy S IV

The noisy attacks seem a bit ironic coming from a company whose corporate motto is "quietly brilliant".  But perhaps HTC is a little jealous of all the attention Samsung received; while the Samsung GSIV event was heavily covered, TV media largely ignored HTC's flagship launch of the 1080p One smartphone.

Source: Engadget





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Who cares how it feels?
By quiksilvr on 3/15/2013 2:30:13 PM , Rating: 1
Honestly, I never really understood this because every phone I get I make sure I get a case with it too. It could be hot pink and made of slippery goo for all I care, I'm still going to put a rubber matte case on it.




RE: Who cares how it feels?
By hughlle on 3/15/2013 2:41:15 PM , Rating: 5
Not everyone buys a case for their phone. In my age group, i know of one person who has a case for their phone. They don't want it hidden away, they want people to see it. Myself, i don't buy a case because i find absolutely no need, that's what my pocket is for.

While people certainly do buy cases for their phone, it is not everyone, so it certainly matters how the phone feels.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By Roffles on 3/18/2013 2:57:54 PM , Rating: 2
The S3 feels great in the hand. I'm convinced it's in people's heads when they talk about the galaxy phone's build quality/feel. As an OG Droid and Droid Bionic owner, I was happy to get an overall lighter phone. The first time I picked it up at the Verizon store, I remember thinking, "wow, this feels good!". The rear rounded edges give it a more comfortable grip compared the my old Motorola phones that had more beveled rear edges. It also feels more comfortable in the pocket because of the rounded back edges. You don't even know it's in your pocket most of the time (unless you wear nut huggers). It's has a lot less bulk to it. The RAZR feature phones still have that same styling so my opinion wouldn't have changed.

And when people choose to buy a phone based solely on styling/aesthetics (iPhone owners and now a growing crowd of future HTC One owners)....go away, you're annoying... you're worse than the fashion police. Save your hollow styling comments for fashion week.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By Nortel on 3/15/2013 2:59:07 PM , Rating: 2
Engineers bust their asses making the phone as thin and light as possible and designers to make it look good. You've thrown a black rubber case on it and claimed nobody should care how it feels...

If I bought a brand new Honda Civic and covered it, inside and out, with sheets of rubber you'd think I was insane but somehow people are 'ok' with doing the same thing on a phone.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By chris2618 on 3/15/2013 3:16:47 PM , Rating: 5
And the last time you dropped you car by accident was


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By hughlle on 3/15/2013 3:26:46 PM , Rating: 2
People dent and scratch their cars all the time.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By jimbojimbo on 3/15/2013 3:42:04 PM , Rating: 4
But when was the last time you dropped it from about 10x its height?


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By hughlle on 3/15/13, Rating: 0
RE: Who cares how it feels?
By cyberguyz on 3/15/2013 5:27:08 PM , Rating: 2
Well bud, you're the one comparing a phone to a car in the first place. Nos you whine when folks shoot holes in your analogy?

And yes, I do put a case on mine because I know exactly what would happen to this expensive piece of tech if it falls out of my pocket onto a concrete or ceramic floor (i.e falling out of my pocket while pulling my pants back up after taking a nice big dump).

Realize too that a car has 4 nice inflated rubber tires, nice springy suspension and SHOCK ABSORBERS. My phone doesn't have any of those.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By jimbojimbo on 3/15/2013 5:43:15 PM , Rating: 2
No kidding. He brought up cars and phones first and now he's whining since the analogy sucks in every way.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By hughlle on 3/15/13, Rating: 0
RE: Who cares how it feels?
By cyberguyz on 3/16/2013 6:49:37 AM , Rating: 4
"If I bought a brand new Honda Civic and covered it, inside and out, with sheets of rubber you'd think I was insane but somehow people are 'ok' with doing the same thing on a phone."

Took that right from your first post in this mini thread.

Ok. Take your iPhone or whatever else smartphone you have. hold it out in front of you. Now drop it on a ceramic tile floor. Pick it up. Chances are very, very good you sill have a lovely piece of damage to your gorilla glass. My big ugly case at least reduces the chances of that. I don't know what your phone costs, but mine was damn near $700 and I'm not made of money. I will protect it.

You don't want to protect your phone? Hey its your phone, your money. But don't try and tell me that my phone is no better protected from drop damage without it. I know better (yes, I have dropped phones before - both with and without these 'useless' cases).


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By cyberguyz on 3/16/2013 6:53:39 AM , Rating: 2
Was Nortel's post not yours -- apologies for that. Not sure why thought your name on it. Meh.

Argument stands regarding why while putting a phone in a case is fugly, it also protects it. If you haven't gone through the pain to losing a phone due to dropping it on a hard floor, you will never understand why those of us that use cases do so.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By Souka on 3/17/2013 3:00:48 PM , Rating: 2
I have a bumper case (no back pieces, or lcd cover) for my iPhone4 (company issued). Paid a whole $0.99 shipped from China...

I've dropped it on concrete dozens of times, and other hard surfaces. Still like new..no scratches on screen, no breaks, a few light scratches on back.

FOR ME, I must have some protection since I'm a klutz...

my wife has a Galaxy S3 with a flip cover... which is needed since she tosses her phone into her handbag/purse...which has lots of stuff that could scratch the screen.

To each their own....

:)


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 11:41:36 AM , Rating: 2


GOOD GAWD, THE STUPIDITY IS UNBELIEVABLE.

A mobile phone dropped is often a mobile phone cracked and destroyed until repaired or replaced.

It is equivalent to a CAR WRECK.

CRASHING AT FULL SPEED

Driving off a bridge

Epic fail... lucky only when TOTALLED damage is not present.

At the very least, insurance claim will be needed, shop repair required.

OKAY ? The car analogy is fine, it's called CAR CRASH

phone drop = car crash

BOTH ACCIDENTS...

ACCIDENTS

THE WORD ACCIDENT

HELLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO

Forest Gump has cloned himself ten thousand times and invaded every internet blog


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By nikon133 on 3/17/2013 11:01:09 PM , Rating: 2
In my case, it is same as with phone - never. I tend not to drop my phones, cameras or any other gadgets.

However, some stupid son of the ... bumped my car on car park. That never happened to my phone.

So basically, putting protective shell on my car would make more sense than putting it on my phone, according to your logic?


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By chris2618 on 3/15/2013 7:50:04 PM , Rating: 2
But if you could have something that would prevent it from getting scratched and dented you would use it.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 11:43:06 AM , Rating: 2

Don't talk sense to the rubes, it silences them.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By GotThumbs on 3/15/2013 3:31:31 PM , Rating: 5
Exactly.

Apple and HTC want to crap on the fact that Samsung has a plastic case.....how many other phones have a plastic case and when was the last time you saw someone with a broken plastic case? Plastics are stronger and more flexible than years past. The ability to mold the shell to find the internal hardware is more important to the actual function of the phone IMO.

I know people will continue to spout school-yard like insults, but at the end of the day.....don't like it? Don't buy it. Samsung's success with it's earlier GS devices is an indication that it's doing pretty well.

Enough with the school-yard name calling/bully tactics from supposedly "Educated" people.

Grow up people!


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By Motoman on 3/15/2013 4:48:24 PM , Rating: 2
Every cell phone I've ever had was plastic. And my first cell phone was with Cellular One...which tells you how long I've had cell phones.

I have never had a case break. Or even crack. Or, frankly, even have any noticeable blemishes at all.

On the other hand, I know a number of people plodding around with iPhones with cracked screens and such.

The plastic vs. aluminum "debate" is a non-debate. It's an attempt at distraction.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By jimbojimbo on 3/15/2013 5:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
What's funny is now with all these criticisms Apple and HTC can no longer make anything out of plastic otherwise they're just complete hypocrites. They'll have to stick with aluminum or move on to various other types of metals. Once they do that they'll say aluminum sucks. Bunch of immature kids with high paying jobs.


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By DeepBlue1975 on 3/15/2013 6:21:04 PM , Rating: 2
And there's a reason Samsung's galaxy series makes the company profitable while others struggle on that:

They charge you the same for a phone made of plastic than the others for one made of nicer materials.

I personally like the feel and the heft and appearance of HTC phones like this one, and iPhones are also pretty impressive to me in that way (except for the fact that they are white, and I hate that "colour")

But... Guess what phone do I use? An SGS3.
A bigger screen with better resolution makes things easier.
Removable batteries makes it easier if the battery fails, you need another one, or the phone crashes and you have no way of rebooting it.
Having an mSD slot to carry your important documents and music and whatnot and keep it even when you change your phone is also pretty practical to me (though I hate that you can't install programs on your mSD card, they only get installed in the internal memory).

Another minus is that with the sgs3 I have to use a phone protective case because it has no grip at all. Specially on those warm days when your hands can be a bit sweaty, you feel like the thing start slipping off your hands, plus it scratches very easily and looks like crap after a short while.

I liked the SGS4's proposition, but before jumping I need nice in depth reviews, specially showing how long does the battery keep it going on with a single charge. If that is significantly better than on my SGS3 I might go for the 4. Otherwise... I don't know.

The one is tempting to me but not having mSD slot and the non removable battery plus the inexcusable lack of buttons which now are software made and thus make your screen smaller (and we'll see how they work inside a game or other full screen apps) are things that sway me away from it.

Maybe I end up skipping this generation and waiting till they start making flexible / folding displays which allow you to have a 10" screener occupying the space of a 3" one (and that will be the day when the tablets have no place anymore)


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By semo on 3/18/2013 4:30:00 AM , Rating: 2
High quality plastics are awesome. They wear better, feel better and improve radio reception when compared to metal.

It's funny how cars that are light and don't use as much metal are considered exotic but when it comes to phones, they are considered cheap


RE: Who cares how it feels?
By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 11:51:26 AM , Rating: 2

apple tards set the brain washing in motion, and the idiot punks thoughless as monkeys or sheep just continue to bleat like god for saken retards

metal phones have sharper edges, harder on the hands and jonits, and weigh more, so while they are WHINING about weight 99% of the time they aren't screaming for thin enough to slice your finger off, weight suddenly TRANSFORMS into "feels well built".....

What we have is the fact the dummy punk retards might be aware metal is what used to be used, old fashioned stuff, before the plastic revolution, which the retards, don't like as far as innovation goes...

Of course I suspect they take their square metal brick that gouges their finger joints and rakes their tendons and smash it up against their foreheads so they don't have to walk all the way to a brick wall, as is usually the Forest Gumpster move they make.

Wow I'm really sick of them. A heavy, unweildy, tendon cutting, hand destroying lead weight, "oooh it's industrial ! it's well built!!! the "feeeeeeelllll"... ( yes it's their emotions again, as their hand is either burning from the heat transfer or being crippled by the harsh metal and edges).

GAWD ARE THEY EVER STUPID PARROTS


The One looks so much sleeker
By tayb on 3/15/2013 5:34:16 PM , Rating: 2
The S4 looks nice from a hardware perspective but man does it look dated next to the One. Not only that but the One also has a much cooler name.

To each his own I suppose but I think HTC takes this round as far as 'best Android phone of the moment' goes. S4 will probably whoop it in sales, however.




RE: The One looks so much sleeker
By TakinYourPoints on 3/16/2013 4:11:40 AM , Rating: 3
Absolutely. Samsung didn't outspend even Apple on marketing for nothing. Samsung's absolute domination in Android hardware marketshare is proof of that, despite their devices being inferior to other company's hardware in many ways.

HTC's Droid DNA and One are great, but they will get absolutely clobbered by the GS4 on the back of Samsung's marketing.


RE: The One looks so much sleeker
By retrospooty on 3/16/2013 8:49:29 AM , Rating: 2
I was thinking that too, but HTC's poor quality in the past helped alot of people go to the S1 and S2. Agreed the One X and DNA and now One are far better build quality and screen quality, but its not all marketing. HTC's last few years have been great, but prior to that they earned their own defection in alot of ways.

After this, I am still looking at the LG optimus pro and possible the MOtorola X for the next phone depending on how it looks. I do like the scratch resistance of the S3, but fingerprints and cheapness of feel do bother me now.


RE: The One looks so much sleeker
By TakinYourPoints on 3/16/2013 4:47:31 PM , Rating: 3
They had issues with build quality, but then again so did many other companies. HTC has leapt so far ahead of the pack with their latest devices though, its crazy. Doesn't matter though, spending only a fraction of Samsung on marketing means that it will get buried in the noise.

I'm assuming that the lack of an SD card slot means no HTC for you?


By retrospooty on 3/16/2013 5:01:22 PM , Rating: 2
Not just for that. If there were some other draw I could live without SD, but not for the One. Not with the Optimus pro looking so sweet. I am looking for something with a better screen to bezel ratio than the One. At this point I am waiting to see the Moto X to decide. The Moto X, Opti pro and Xperia Z are on my list. Maybe S4 if and only if the eye scrolling is perfect and fluid.


RE: The One looks so much sleeker
By Reclaimer77 on 3/16/2013 8:07:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm assuming that the lack of an SD card slot means no HTC for you?


That's the second deal-breaker. The other being their stupid decision to eliminate Android function buttons.

These things are basically mini-computers in our pockets. No removable storage options is just..dumb at this point. Even if I don't use it much, it should just be expected to have it.

But I would take it over an iPhone, that goes without saying :)


By TakinYourPoints on 3/22/2013 5:29:29 AM , Rating: 2
Eliminating the additional buttons is a plus, those are a waste. I've seen people complain on several occasions about accidentally hitting them when using certain fullscreen apps or games where the phone is being used sideways.

quote:
These things are basically mini-computers in our pockets. No removable storage options is just..dumb at this point.


Removable storage on even a desktop PC is barely needed. Optical media is dead and things like flash drives, while useful, aren't really much needed either. Networks and cloud storage dude.

I do understand wanting to expand storage past the base model, but when there isn't room for the mounting needed for storage then it just can't fit. There are other options if you want other designs that allow for physical storage mounting. The Galaxy series can, the One and the more practically sized iPhone and Nexus 4 cannot.

The One is good hardware though. It is saddled with Sense though, almost as bad as TouchWiz, and ultimately it is stuck with Android's far inferior ecosystem and second rate polish. It is certainly better quality hardware than what Samsung has to offer.


RE: The One looks so much sleeker
By Reclaimer77 on 3/16/2013 1:31:57 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Samsung's absolute domination in Android hardware marketshare is proof of that, despite their devices being inferior to other company's hardware in many ways.


A little simplistic imo...

The company you seem to support the most, Apple, has done far more to damage HTC's profits than any Samsung marketing campaign. People can't buy banned phones...


RE: The One looks so much sleeker
By TakinYourPoints on 3/16/2013 4:43:45 PM , Rating: 2
Except that HTC products never actually got banned in the US, it didn't impact their sales. They're cross-licensing with Apple now so it looks like bans aren't happening anytime soon either.

What does matter is that Samsung spends about three times as much as HTC does in marketing. HTC's reach in billboards, TV ads, etc, is nothing compared to Samsung's. Then again, nobody really comes close these days.


RE: The One looks so much sleeker
By insurgent on 3/18/2013 1:07:47 AM , Rating: 2
You're still parroting that overly-simplistic marketing reason. HTC failed big time with the Desire and Sensation flagships, while at the same time Samsung got almost everything right with the Galaxy S 2 and established themselves as the Android OEM.

HTC has to put out a phenomenal phone without delays or issues, and Samsung has to put out an overall disappointing phone before HTC can gain mind share back.


By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 12:07:06 PM , Rating: 2

Wait a minute- Samsung has done great, while HTC has done failure after failure...

HTC - oh whoopie my build quality ! the feeeeeeeellll oh it feels (bad battery life)
( like hell and then nothing if you are actually using a phone, and PLASTIC ROUNDED like Samsung FEELS MUCH BETTER AND MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE OVER MANY HOURS OF USE )

YOU CAN HOLD A LIGHT CHEAP PLASTIC ROUNDED EDGE PHONE IN YOUR HANDS FOR FREAKING DAYS WITHOUT COMFORT PROBLEMS.
IT'S A PILLOW COMPARED TO HARD COLD EDGED METAL CRAP OF THE IPHONE AND HTC OR ANY OTHER BUILD QUALITY....

Guess what ? After the few minutes the hipster twit tells themself they got the best build is over - THEN THE YEARS OF HAND PAIN AND JOINT RIPPING KICK IN...

Some people take comfort of actual end user hands, their OWN, over brain dead nose in the air snooty crap stupid hipster RAGING RETARD PARROT IDIOT FOOL "feel" bragging.

There, now finally all you punks have the truth and the real reason why, for the first time EVER, because you're all clueless frikkin parrots ! NOT A THOUGHT IN YOUR STUPID SKULLS EVER !


Its funny how competitors are...
By retrospooty on 3/15/2013 3:00:35 PM , Rating: 5
Publicly crapping on competing products doesn't make your products look any better. It makes you look worried about your competition. HTC and Apple clearly have a lot to lose, but the lame comments are pointless.

With that said, I understand HTC's frustration. At least for the past 2 years they have been putting out some really good phones. The One X and now this years One are really nice products. I don't get why they are being outsold so badly by Samsung but they are. It must be frustrating as hell to put all this effort into a kickass phone like the One, but knowing it will be totally outsold by the GS4.




RE: Its funny how competitors are...
By Reclaimer77 on 3/15/2013 3:17:51 PM , Rating: 2
Retro you tell me, am I being way too picky about HTC's idiotic decision to remove Android buttons on the One? It's like they made an almost perfect phone, but threw in a deal-breaker. I just cannot picture myself using an HTC One because they've taken one of the best things about Android, ease of use/navigation, and cocked it up!

Metal, plastic, meah in the end who cares? But I certainly care that tasks that are second nature and intuitive on my current phone, have been made clunky by HTC on the One.

But this is just my opinion, you know, Reclaimer the blind Android "fanboi" here...


RE: Its funny how competitors are...
By jimbojimbo on 3/15/2013 3:37:12 PM , Rating: 2
Yep. And of all things they remove the capacitive buttons in the middle to put their giant logo. Great. Then again some people would still rather have something pretty but annoying to use than something truly functional.


RE: Its funny how competitors are...
By Reclaimer77 on 3/15/2013 3:50:47 PM , Rating: 2
Good it's not just me. And I know it's myopic and doesn't mean anything, but this decision has cost them at least 3 more sales, because two of my friends were this close to buying the HTC One until they heard about the button debacle.

It's just such an illogical design decision, I do NOT understand. The bezel is really small on the One, could it be having that (relatively) giant HTC logo where buttons should be was THAT important to them?

And I know the same functionality is there once you learn the new gestures, double taps, and hold-key...but it's the principle of it. And that's less intuitive and user-friendly.

Is HTC trying to be Apple or something? Will the next flagship phone have ONE button? Ugh!


RE: Its funny how competitors are...
By RufusM on 3/15/2013 5:17:56 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with the buttons. Have no idea why they removed it in favor of the logo, defeating at least some Android standardization. I was also really a fan of the four capacitive buttons, but I can see replacing the Search button with the Recent Apps button, but the menu button was nice to have. Why Google removed it in favor of the ... button I'll never know.

I'm also not a fan of the physical button on the GS3, Note 2 and GS4 either. Why add a physical button when capacitive buttons don't break

Having used the software buttons for a while now, I can say I like them better than the capacitive buttons since they're more flexible. They just need to be made to take up a little less screen and apps need to make them go away as-needed.


By Reclaimer77 on 3/15/2013 5:23:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why add a physical button when capacitive buttons don't break


Probably because, I'm sure you've noticed, it's VERY easy to accidentally key a button with capacitive touch. With physical buttons you have to be deliberate.

quote:
I agree with the buttons. Have no idea why they removed it in favor of the logo, defeating at least some Android standardization. I was also really a fan of the four capacitive buttons, but I can see replacing the Search button with the Recent Apps button, but the menu button was nice to have. Why Google removed it in favor of the ... button I'll never know.


Totally agree.


By retrospooty on 3/15/2013 4:01:46 PM , Rating: 2
I am split on it. I like the button, but if you are going to remove it, remove it to go edge to edge and lower the bexel size. HTC One is NOT a great edge to edge display phone. If it were, I could give the lack of button a pass.


RE: Its funny how competitors are...
By Disorganise on 3/18/2013 11:42:15 AM , Rating: 2
"At least for the past 2 years they have been putting out some really good phones. The One X and now this years One are really nice products. I don't get why they are being outsold so badly by Samsung but they are.
Well I'm a defector. I had the desire z and then a senstation and they were pretty good initially. The desire went to the wife when I got the sensation. But in less than 12 months the sensation was running like a dog and HTC decide to release a phone with no micro SD and no removable battery
Meanwhile the wife buys an S3 after toying with the idea of an iPhone and the speed and fluidity iwas amazing...so I bought the LTE version with spare battery and brought over the micro SD with my music etc
There's some pieces of HTC sense I miss but the damage is done. The sensation showes that a removable battery is a must simply for the ability to quickly power the thing off, though for me I carry a spare battery as well. I actually don't understand why the likes of the galaxy don't have the option of metal back covers
Regardless...dissing a competitors product never makes you look good...it'd be much better to take the approach 'great product and if you'd like the same features in a metal body like iPhone, get our latest blah blah'


By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 11:57:15 AM , Rating: 2
" Meanwhile the wife buys an S3 after toying with the idea of an iPhone and the speed and fluidity was amazing"

Oh, there we have it people.


regardless of what HTC says about the SG4 ...
By hugo_stiglitz on 3/15/2013 3:19:50 PM , Rating: 5
The One beats the GS4 in the aethestics department hands-down. Not even close.




RE: regardless of what HTC says about the SG4 ...
By Rukkian on 3/15/2013 3:22:47 PM , Rating: 2
Just a matter of opinion, I actually do not like the looks of the one at all, but to me it does not matter, cause it is a not a fashion accessory. The look of the device would be one of the last things I would worry about when buying a phone.


By jimbojimbo on 3/15/2013 3:39:16 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I don't like it either. That silver aluminum contrasts too much with the black.
By the way whether someone likes the appearance or not is subjective. The amount of features the S4 has over the One is fact and cannot be argued. S4 wins by a long shot.


By HammerZ on 3/15/2013 4:33:18 PM , Rating: 2
I would have to agree on the HTC One being much prettier (personal taste). However, the GS4 will get my money because it has an upgradeable memory card slot. Seriously, what is HTC thinking?


By TakinYourPoints on 3/16/2013 4:08:35 AM , Rating: 4
The HTC devices have higher quality screens too. The One and DNA have the best displays outside of the iPhone, they're great. The DNA's is crazy good.

Its amazing how many people have been duped by Samsung's marketing when there's better hardware from other manufacturers making Android handsets. Forget regular people, supposed "technical" people here who have no idea what quality actually is (and who can't grasp basic concepts of engineering, ecosystems, and operating systems) just eat their low-grade overpriced stuff up.


By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 12:39:39 PM , Rating: 2

The 4.7 inch not 5 inch not small bezel screwed up icon HTC sense crap and heavy metal rectangle crap of HTC...

HTC is the one that is junk.

5 inch, thin bezel, all the screen used, Samsung better designed interface, lighter, rounder phone.

You've just got it all wrong. HTC is not what techs want, it's what idiots want. braggarts, jerks it's what jerks want


Yea, but....
By EasyC on 3/15/2013 2:08:52 PM , Rating: 5
I agree with them. The "launch" event was dumb. I watched the entire thing thinking, WTF are they doing?

Their comments about the S4's feel and materials are also true. I've never been impressed with Samsung's phone build. Feels like a toy... but carries the same price.

I really wanted to like the S4, but it feels like the EVO 4G LTE launch all over. Take the same innards, slap a slightly larger AMOLED screen on, plastic shell, and a bunch of software stuff.

Maybe next time... :(




RE: Yea, but....
By Rukkian on 3/15/2013 3:20:01 PM , Rating: 2
While I can understand not liking feel (personal preference), I am not sure what you were watching if you think it is
quote:
Take the same innards, slap a slightly larger AMOLED screen on, plastic shell, and a bunch of software stuff.
The innards are a huge step forward from the S3 (and pretty much every other phone out there). Double the cores with a faster and more efficient proc, bigger battery, higher memory option, much improved camera, bigger screen - all in a package that is smaller and lighter in every way than its predecessor.


RE: Yea, but....
By RufusM on 3/15/2013 4:10:10 PM , Rating: 2
Plus that new AMOLED RGB screen looks great. Samsumg has almost always brought the goods for the S2, S3 and now the S4 in terms of hardware.

In terms of software, I've liked the main TouchWiz design from the past phones and they've added some cool things to the S4, like the awesome toggles screen, cool camera features and such, all without changing TouchWiz's look and feel at all. The bright green and blue is getting very old looking (Gingerbread looking) in comparison to other UIs and especially stock Android. Maybe that's what most consumers want since it ties the experience together from the S3 to the S4.

It looks like they threw everything they can think of into the S4 (some features are probably a little gimmicky but at least they're trying) but I didn't see the one thing that's a killer gotta-have feature.


RE: Yea, but....
By Mint on 3/15/2013 11:05:41 PM , Rating: 2
I thought it was still Pentile?

Anyway, 1080p Pentile should be fine. At that resolution, I'd rather have deep blacks than the RGB of LCD.


RE: Yea, but....
By Reclaimer77 on 3/16/2013 1:50:02 AM , Rating: 2
Technically it's pentile, but Samsung went with an entirely new pixel layout to maximize image quality, PPi, and reduce power draw. It's really cool to see them pushing the limits of this technology and innovating OLED technology. Hopefully one day we will have 4k OLED television sets, that would SO kick ass.

http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-vs-galax...


RE: Yea, but....
By TakinYourPoints on 3/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: Yea, but....
By jimbojimbo on 3/15/2013 3:35:53 PM , Rating: 2
Same innards??? What the hell are talking about? Everything except the amount of RAM and storage has been upgraded.

I'd rather have a toy that can do 100 things easily than a shiny block that can do 20 things.


Smaller in every dimension
By CZroe on 3/15/2013 3:03:55 PM , Rating: 2
"Critics pointed to the larger size as potentially being too much"

That's strange. Despite the screen being larger, the Galaxy S4 is smaller in every dimension than the Galaxy S III.

They must be talking about the screen being too large. Ugh.

Pretty much the only people claiming anything over 4" is "too large" are the guys who think the iPhone 5's 4" screen is the "perfect size." Those are the very same ones who previously claimed that anything over 3.5" was too large (all prior iPhones were 3.5").




RE: Smaller in every dimension
By retrospooty on 3/15/2013 3:10:28 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, "size doesn't matter" says the guy with a small one. ;)

I don't get wasting all that great functionality on a small screen. Any modern smartphone from any platform does so much and gives you such a great experience, to do all that on a tiny little screen just seems like a waste. You may as well go back to an old 9 key phone.


By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 1:21:55 PM , Rating: 2

And thus the iphone dies

Oh look at the big gawking monster phone you look so silly...

No sir, you look silly with your pinkie extended talking into midair without your ear covered. Why don't we just use a two sided stickie and we can paste it to your cheek, you'll ne'er notice it...

Yeah I'm really sick of the lame lame lame excuse they will look silly holding it up to their ear... LAMEST EXCUSE POSSIBLE....

How about the truth: you're a tiny tiny man, with tiny tiny nerdy little spindle fingers you can barely grasp the width of a 2.5 inch screen phone...

5" plus is the new good it's already obvious ( for tinyman nerd) - after the sick prejudice of the phone racists was overcome... freedom finally came to mobile


Samsung's reponse
By grooves21 on 3/17/2013 2:42:46 PM , Rating: 2
Samsung should officially respond, and say, "Hey HTC.... scoreboard!"




RE: Samsung's reponse
By cyberguyz on 3/18/2013 5:37:18 AM , Rating: 2
Why?

Whenever you put out a better product, those that are competing will do their best to point out how bad your product is and how much better theirs is. But notice it is only the guys that got left behind that do that (it is called desperation).

The guys with the better product really don't need to say a word except to simply show off their latest & greatest.


RE: Samsung's reponse
By CeriseCogburn on 3/18/2013 1:16:05 PM , Rating: 2

That's how the media plays you, not how the companies act.

They all respond, all the time.



argggh
By Bubbacub on 3/17/2013 10:57:25 AM , Rating: 2
Dear Mr HTC,

To avoid impending doom you should do the following.....

1: Stock android only
2: Let me change the battery
3: SD cards are nice (Personally I can live without)
4: No one is going to pay as much for your phone as an iphone or a SGSIV - so cut the price
5: Beg google to do another nexus device

If not then you'll be back to making unbranded OEM phones for carriers in a few years time.




RE: argggh
By Bubbacub on 3/17/2013 11:00:32 AM , Rating: 2
and
6: OTA updates within a week of release of the source code from google for ~ 3 years (so that people who get onto a new 2 year contract within a year of release dont get screwed)

seriously im only going for nexus phones since I got burned with stupid 1 year delays in getting updates OTA with my last HTC.


LOL!
By Cluebat on 3/15/2013 6:10:42 PM , Rating: 2
Your article images are full of win.

Again- I take my hat off to you.




Logical reaction
By cyberguyz on 3/16/2013 7:04:56 AM , Rating: 2
Everyone who sells a product will get on a soapbox and state loudly with trumpets blaring that their product is the best.

Those same folks when they are in turn trumped by their competition will climb right back up on that soapbox and defend to the death why their (now) lesser product is 'better' than that competitor in a bid to keep their customers from walking over to their competitors.

Business as usual.




HTC lost, and they know it
By Fenuxx on 3/17/2013 2:13:01 AM , Rating: 2
HTC knows they lost, and are continuing to lose. There's several reasons for this, not least of which is their track record.

I picked up an S3 last time around because I knew, at least, I'd get support for it. My fiance's HTC DROID Incredible 2 was promised, many times over, an update to Android 4.0, and never got it, and it was originally "due" for release in June/July 2012. It's still in "limbo". HTC won't even officially acknowledge that they can't do it. The DINC2 wasn't a "bad" phone when it was released. It was essentially a Thunderbolt, without the LTE radio. Its specs were pretty decent for its time.

That's my biggest problem with HTC. They have a long history of "forgetting" about devices. I'm not interested in purchasing a phone that'll be forgotten about in 6 months. Motorola was bad about this as well, until Google took over, now they're getting back on the right path.




I fixed HTC's quote
By cknobman on 3/18/2013 1:40:49 PM , Rating: 2
Customers want removable storage, replaceable batteries, and not forced to run "Sense" which is why they will not be getting the HTC One.




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