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HP CEO Léo Apotheker promises to greatly increase spending on research and acquisitions, eliminating cost cuts. Meanwhile HP's revenue is expected to drop from 8 percent per year growth to 4 percent.  (Source: Google Images)

CEO Léo Apotheker promises to eliminate "cynics" of his vision.  (Source: HP)

HP will also put webOS on every single PC in 2012, including some PCs which will reportedly ditch Windows and exclusively run webOS. The move is designed to reverse HP's abysmal app numbers. HP has approximately 2.4 percent of the apps Google's Android has and 1.7 percent of the apps Apple has.  (Source: Pocket Lint)
Newly "Californian-ized" CEO says he wants to save HP's "lost soul"

Many were critical of the decision to appoint Léo Apotheker, a 57 year-old German native with little consumer retail experience and a poor business track record, to the position of chief executive officer at Hewlett-Packard Company.  Likewise, the decisions Mr. Apotheker has made during the first few months of his tenure have done little to silence that criticism.

Mr. Apotheker, in a recent interview with Business Week, attacked his company's performance under former CEO Mark Hurd.  He states, "HP has lost its soul. The first thing I wanted to do when I joined HP was listen to the people. The rank and file usually know about all the shortcomings."

He promises to get rid of "cynics" of his vision at HP.  He states, "I’m not perfect. Temper comes with temperament; it comes with passion. The one thing I’ve learned is to try to manage my temper better and get rid of cynics sooner."

His vision involves sweeping changes.  Among them, he vows to look at India as a market for his company's products rather than a source of cheap labor -- though what exactly that equates to in production contracts and actual results remains to be seen.  Perhaps even great a change, he is discontinuing Mark Hurd's aggressive cost cutting, replacing it with a policy of spending extra to ensure "quality" and bring promising products to market faster.

But perhaps no change sums up how dramatically Mr. Apotheker is shaking up the company more so than his plans for webOS.

According to his recent interview, HP will install webOS on every single PC it builds in 2012.  WebOS is a mobile operating system built on web-centric languages like Java, PHP, HTML, and XML.  HP acquired it when it purchased device-maker Palm, Inc.  

While this may be limited to virtual machine or dual-boot applications on many machines, past comments by Mr. Apotheker's executive appointees indicate that webOS may replace Windows entirely on some machines.

Although this move does pose somewhat of a threat to the Microsoft Windows empire on the consumer side, ostensibly it's designed to try to jump-start the virtually dead webOS app market.  Apple has over 350,000 apps, Google's Android platform has over 250,000 apps, but webOS has only a measly 6,000 apps.  States Mr. Apotheker of the decision to push webOS on the masses, "You create a massive platform."

Aside from the unusual action with webOS, Mr. Apotheker plans on executing major acquisitions to try to keep pace with rival firms IBM and Oracle -- the firm his predecessor, Mr. Hurd has obtained a major position at.  Mr. Apotheker says he's especially interested in data processing and security firms.

Analysts say Informatica Corp., BMC Software Inc., SAS Institute Inc., Symantec Corp. and CommVault Systems Inc. as possible targets.  Mr. Apotheker has already denied having any interest in acquiring his struggling former employer -- business software giant SAP -- or payroll, business relationship software firm Salesforce.com.

In an attempt to work more closely with his American colleagues, the new CEO has bought a $7M USD mansion and is settling down in Silicon Valley, Calif.  He states, "I consider myself a Californian now. I bought a house in California -- I can even say 'awesome' and 'cool.'"

Mr. Apotheker complains that his predecessor Mr. Hurd was too short sighted in cutting back on research spending and failing to jump on the cloud-computing bandwagon.  Some industry figures do approve of his increased focus on research.  States former executive co-worker at SAP, John Schwarz, "The minute you stop investing in innovation, you start spiraling toward your death."

But ultimately, the bottom line financially may speak louder than Mr. Apotheker's bold vision -- analysts say HP's growth will slow to 4 percent a year in 2011 and 2012.  That's half the 8 percent a year growth that Mr. Hurd managed.  On Wall Street shares have corresponding dropped over 8 percent since the new CEO took over.

 



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hmmm
By kleinma on 3/9/2011 9:52:07 AM , Rating: 3
Put an OS on your machines that doesn't run all the programs people are used to. Wonder how many people will get home and realize they just bought a machine without Windows. I remember Walmart selling cheap PCs with linux on them. Is this history repeating itself?




RE: hmmm
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 9:58:21 AM , Rating: 5
Only Apple can get away with selling computers that don't run 90% of all the software on the planet. Because they charge a lot more and feed the smug factor as a response. Besides, actually running software is so mainstream.

I can't honestly believe that this guy thinks he's going to replace Windows with any other OS. At most maybe dual-boot. If he actually does force HP to ditch Windows in favor of webOS, HP will be dead in a matter of months. At least, from a PC/server perspective.


RE: hmmm
By MeesterNid on 3/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: hmmm
By kleinma on 3/9/2011 10:05:22 AM , Rating: 1
Didn't you know Apple invented WebOS right after they invented the internet with Al Gore?


RE: hmmm
By retrospooty on 3/10/2011 6:24:46 AM , Rating: 1
Actually, the same dood that designed the UI for IOS, left Apple and went to Palm and designed the Web OS UI. Web OS is definetly the new and improved version, put in are all the things he thught of after it was too late with IOS. It's really a great OS. Give it a shot. It beats the snot out of IOS, Droid and Win Phone 7 combined, by a large margin.


RE: hmmm
By Taft12 on 3/9/2011 11:18:49 AM , Rating: 1
The second post in to a story about HP is an Apple bash.

I think this tells you everything you need to know about where the discourse has gone at this site. It's become every bit as bad as newspaper sites that take 3 posts to devolve into an all-caps rant about Obama the anti-christ (on a story about the local church picnic).


RE: hmmm
By cjohnson2136 on 3/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: hmmm
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 11:43:42 AM , Rating: 5
HP proclaiming it's going to push a non-Windows OS is directly related to Apple selling Macs with a non-Windows OS - they're both going to be in the same boat. It's not an unrelated comment.

Also...the fact that you're still clinging to the concept that "Apple-bashing" is an unfair, undeserved bias against Apple tells us everything we need to know about you. It's not unfair. It's not undeserved. Buying a Mac is an irrational decision in every way, and you are the one that has to come to grips with that. Denying reality is the SOP of Macolytes...but that doesn't make you right.


RE: hmmm
By omnicronx on 3/9/2011 12:30:59 PM , Rating: 4
I think he was more or less pointing out that another company has been quite successful doing exactly what the OP said was not a good idea.


RE: hmmm
By Alexvrb on 3/9/2011 10:30:52 PM , Rating: 2
Bingo. Apple has the RDF, so they can do whatever they want and get away with it. HP? Not so much.


RE: hmmm
By Tony Swash on 3/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: hmmm
By nafhan on 3/9/2011 10:29:56 AM , Rating: 5
I guess you're from the magical HTML5 web based future. However it still works like this: if it runs on in a browser, it (generally) doesn't matter what OS you use, but if it doesn't, you need an OS that's compatible with your software. Regardless of what you want to believe, that's going to be Windows for a lot of people - especially businesses. I kind of get the feeling that your definition of "crap software" pretty much just = software that doesn't run on OSX. That would explain the 90% thing at least.


RE: hmmm
By Tony Swash on 3/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: hmmm
By nafhan on 3/9/2011 4:29:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Times change and clinging to the comforting certainties of the past will get you no where.
Funny coming from you :)


RE: hmmm
By themaster08 on 3/9/2011 5:12:50 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
you can run Windows legally and easily on a Mac in variety of way but you can't run MacOSX on Windows easily or legally. Which means a Mac is actually the most compatible PC there is. I can, and do, run MacOSX, Windows 7, Windows XP and Ubuntu all at the same time on my Mac.
You have this backwards. A Mac is just hardware with an Apple logo slapped on it. Nothing internally is unique in any way whatsoever. The exact same hardware can be used on a PC. OS X is the least compatible operating system. That is the argument here.


RE: hmmm
By retrospooty on 3/10/2011 6:33:03 AM , Rating: 1
"That's why Mac sales keep growing way faster than PC sales."


Actually Apple has been stagnating at about 5% global marketshare for well over 2 1/2 years.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.as...


RE: hmmm
By retrospooty on 3/10/2011 6:34:33 AM , Rating: 2
I left out the part about 4 years ago through 2 1/2 years ago, Mac made its "meteoric" rise from 3.5% to 5%.

LOL


RE: hmmm
By AnotherGuy on 3/9/2011 10:30:44 AM , Rating: 2
lol Apple Fans on crack... watch out :P


RE: hmmm
By JasonMick (blog) on 3/9/2011 10:55:20 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
Only Apple can get away with selling computers that don't run 90% of all the cr@p software on the planet. Besides, actually running cr@p software is so much an essential part of the Windows experience.


So how do you explain awesome PC games like Fallout 3 and Crysis, which Apple fails to support?

Or the wealth of business software that Macs can't use.

Is that all "cr@p" in your mind?


RE: hmmm
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 11:02:20 AM , Rating: 4
...close, but the reality for Apple consumers is not so much that something is "crap in their mind" as their mind is, in and of itself, crap.


RE: hmmm
By nafhan on 3/9/2011 12:56:54 PM , Rating: 2
To put it another way:
quote:
This Fox has a longing for grapes:
He jumps, but the bunch still escapes.
So he goes away sour;
And, 'tis said, to this hour
Declares that he's no taste for grapes.
-Aesop's Fables


RE: hmmm
By Taft12 on 3/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: hmmm
By Einy0 on 3/9/2011 8:04:08 PM , Rating: 2
Business software being moved to web based apps. What planet are you living on? Google is the only one really pushing that agenda and the majority of businesses want software to be installed on their systems and servers on their sites. They will not trust their valuable information, etc to an off-site third party.


RE: hmmm
By nafhan on 3/10/2011 9:11:48 AM , Rating: 2
Moving to the "cloud" and web apps doesn't mean going outside - if you're big enough. I work for a large company that's pretty much moving everything to web apps. We've got our own "cloud", though. So, everything is still on site.


RE: hmmm
By theapparition on 3/9/2011 2:00:49 PM , Rating: 5
I love the irony.

When PC advocates point to 95% desktop market share and significantly larger software library, Apple fans immediately dismiss it as pointless. Anything not made for Apple is therefore crap.

However, when talking about their mobile devices, the first thing they throw into the discussion is number of "apps" available. Largest app catalog this, and most apps that.

So which is it?

And seriously, how can you try to claim that with a strait face.


RE: hmmm
By nikon133 on 3/9/2011 2:59:41 PM , Rating: 2
You learn those tricks when you follow reverent Steve Jobs.

I have a feeling his religion would do so much better than Scientology...


RE: hmmm
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 3:15:42 PM , Rating: 2
His religion is doing much better than Scientology...they have temples (Apple Stores) pretty much everywhere, and probably several million more acolytes.


RE: hmmm
By sigmatau on 3/10/2011 12:55:26 AM , Rating: 2
Not only that but Apple zombies will ask/tell you,

"Why would you want to do that?"
"It's a portable device so it really doesn't need to do that."
"If it's not available on a Mac it must not be good."

The first one kills me. It is quoted almost everytime I ask something on the Apple forums about the iphone or itunes.


RE: hmmm
By syphon on 3/9/2011 10:28:40 AM , Rating: 2
Only Apple can get away with selling computers that don't run 90% of all the software on the planet.

Correction to that...it used to be that way yes. But now this is no longer true. Why? Because Apple started getting a decent market share and software makers recognized them as an up and coming market.(FYI I am not an Apple fanboy and do not own an Apple product)

The same is true with WebOS. When it launches, it will be crap because nobody will be using it and most software developers will not take the time to design for 3 platforms, Windows, Apple then HP. They need to give Steve Jobs a call and ask him how he made people think that they NEED an Apple product regardless of what software is out there. Once they accomplish that, they will then get more adopters and in turn will start getting software created for their OS.

Just throwing this out there, as a startup business owner, some products, like Microsoft Office are essential tools. Yes there are products like Google Docs and all, but the business world still uses Office as standard software and they expect you to have it installed just as when someone sends you a PDF expecting you to have Adobe Reader. I doubt WebOS will have Office when it first comes out.


RE: hmmm
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 11:09:24 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
ecause Apple started getting a decent market share


...no they didn't. They're around 5% of the total number of computers in use. Which is a negligible, insignificant portion of the market.

Qualitatively I have seen no increase in the % of software titles on the market for Macs vs. Windows.

As for webOS getting a whole lot of support, at launch or later...look how long Linux has been around...it's not getting popular for the specific reason that it isn't Windows, and therefore isn't compatible with 90% of the software on the market.

You can't really look at Apple as a model for much of anything - that's a social phenomenon that realistically isn't going to get replicated. When people are dumb enough to get brainwashed into a religion, they can only belong to that one religion and won't be joining any others...


RE: hmmm
By JediJeb on 3/9/2011 2:09:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The same is true with WebOS. When it launches, it will be crap because nobody will be using it and most software developers will not take the time to design for 3 platforms, Windows, Apple then HP.


So because someone doesn't use something it makes it crap? For several years AMD processors out performed Intel, yet because companies like Dell would not sell them they never had the market share Intel had, but that didn't make them crap. Also the Wii sells more units than the PS3, does that make the Wii a better console?

The problem is that even if HP develops WebOS and a full out office suite and productivity software and games ect that outperform the Microsoft equivalents they will still be far behind in market share simply because everyone knows who Microsoft and Windows is, not necessarily because they are better. If you have the clout to out market and out price your competitor you can take a lesser product and win the market. Not saying that Windows is inferior to WebOS, I have not even seen WebOS yet, but WebOS can't be called crap simply because it is not what everyone will be using in the near future.


RE: hmmm
By Myg on 3/9/2011 10:34:34 AM , Rating: 2
That is not true, Apple were just the first to realize the fact that its better to sell an "image" like the music industry does (with their 'forumulated' music), then just a product with a set number of functionality bits. This may be due to its having to "turn around" after almost going out of business and Jobs spending time contemplating life over all by his own in the meantime, but who knows?

All the other companies are living in the past and have no real conception of how to sell products to fill the void in people's lives.

Example:
Unless HP infiltrates the (female) celebrities (has to be female to work decisively) by having them show off using their products on the red carpet and in gossip magazines, no one will ever compete against Apple's position in that market. This is because people genuinely worship celebrities and will "monkey see, monkey do" also the fact that females are more socially grounded and connected then males, thus spreading their influence quicker and more effectively.

It all comes down to filling people's needs in society; ever since the removal of God and religion from the mainstream people are starting to have more and more holes needing to be filled by material products/etc.

You simply need to know how to create a "world" for them to live in outside of their own miserable lives. Better yet, if they can carry it with them!


RE: hmmm
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 11:12:01 AM , Rating: 2
Yes...the Apple phenomenon is indeed a case of monkey see, monkey do. The problem is that all the monkeys are spoken for - I don't honestly see any other company, ever, creating that kind of social phenomenon again.


RE: hmmm
By Calin on 3/10/2011 3:31:19 AM , Rating: 2
I would like a kind of "instant on" WebOS, with the option to start a desktop-like operating system. Just imagine: press a button and have everything available in seconds. Faster than hybernate, and no need to keep the PC powered up.
Certainly, this is only added value - but even so, it would be nice.


RE: hmmm
By jah1subs on 3/9/2011 10:25:02 AM , Rating: 2
I can imagine selling PCs with WebOS virtualized on top of Windows much more readily than I can imagine dual boot or some other scenario. Dual boot seems unnecessary now that there is so much virtualization technology.


RE: hmmm
By Ben on 3/9/2011 10:39:34 AM , Rating: 2
Or possibly Windows on top of WebOS? :)


RE: hmmm
By nafhan on 3/9/2011 1:42:43 PM , Rating: 2
I agree virtualization would make more sense, especially given that WebOS is relatively lightweight and that virtualization wouldn't require them to make a native x86 version of WebOS.

Alternatively, given the low cost of ARM SOC's and the fact that HP is a hardware integrator, they might be able to do something like include an ARM SOC right on the mainboard.


RE: hmmm
By nikon133 on 3/9/2011 3:40:51 PM , Rating: 2
I'd like to see dual boot. For example, I'd like to be able to quickly browse the web, check email... Skype... Facebook... things like that... without waiting for Windows to boot.

I'm guessing WebOS will bot in a matter of seconds.

Asus is already offering such option on some of their netbooks... probably some micro Linux distro?


RE: hmmm
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 5:23:31 PM , Rating: 2
...the downside to that...

...is that when, after quickly checking your webmail, you decide you need to do something to some Excel file you'd been working on, you then have to shut down the OS you're in and then wait for Windows to boot up.

I don't mind having a dual-boot option, I guess...but I just can't ever think of any reason why I'd boot into the extra OS anyway...the extra bit of time it takes Windows to boot (on a non-$#%^ed system) isn't a big deal.


RE: hmmm
By nikon133 on 3/9/2011 5:59:10 PM , Rating: 2
Of course dual boot is not perfect but I think it would have its use. I also don't mind booting time when I actually want to sit and spend some time behind PC, but on occasion I want to do a few quick tasks with big time gaps in between, I'd rather be able to boot-task-shut down than keep my computer in sleep. Like, quickly checking anything on the web while waiting for bus. I don't want to wait whole minute to boot as I am likely going to spend not more than a minute doing whatever (and bus might arrive during that time). Or, checking if my mate has replied to my post during commercials run in America's Idol ;)

Virtual WebOS in Windows? Not for me. I can't think of too many things I'd rather do in WebOS than in Windows, especially if I already have my Windows up and running.


RE: hmmm
By arthur449 on 3/9/2011 6:30:57 PM , Rating: 2
This is likely the path HP will take, as they already have a pre-boot OS environment in their ENVY laptops.


RE: hmmm
By therealnickdanger on 3/9/2011 10:46:58 AM , Rating: 2
This isn't the first time a PC manufacturer offered a dual-boot option to access media or web-based content outside of Windows.

Dell MediaConnect immediately springs to mind.


RE: hmmm
By omnicronx on 3/9/2011 12:28:46 PM , Rating: 2
They probably just want to increase adoption, i don't really see anything but perhaps netbooks having only webOS.

This is not the first time this was attempted, many motherboard vendors have had an instant on feature with a small self contained version of nix on the system for a while.

I think this would be a good point to start for HP, it can't possibly hurt them to get webOS out there. This could easily help jump start development and get people writing apps.


RE: hmmm
By Suntan on 3/9/2011 1:09:57 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed.

My current hp laptop came with some kind of dual boot, instant on deal. Never have even tried it myself. But if it also offered access to a lot of low cost apps, it would be much more appealing.

Further, using a WebOS phone makes it a good deal more usable. Good integration.

In any case, leave it to Dailytech posters to have an article about a major PC manufacturer with nothing at all to do with Apple… and then have the first umpteen hundred posts bickering about Apple vs. MS…

-Suntan


Not as big as they make it out to be I bet
By krotchy on 3/9/2011 10:57:45 AM , Rating: 4
I get the feeling this implementation of WebOS on every computer would be more like the Quick Boot software that Asus, Dell and other computer makers have been using from time to time. You know, that annoying button that you think starts your computer, but instead boots the computer into a weak OS to watch a DVD or maybe browse the internet crudely. The one that only takes 5-10 seconds to get into instead of the 30-60 seconds it takes to get Windows open with a Browser ready to use. Replacing these proprietary and extremely limited use quickboot OS' with something like WebOS or Chrome would actually be a major improvement for customers who enjoy these features.




By vortmax2 on 3/9/2011 11:08:12 AM , Rating: 2
Great post. This very well may be their strategy and it would improve what we have now.


RE: Not as big as they make it out to be I bet
By Helbore on 3/9/2011 12:30:57 PM , Rating: 2
This is exactly what I read it as being used for. I somehow doubt HP are considering ditching Windows on all their laptop and desktop computers in favour of a mobile OS. They're not that stupid!

I can definitely see it being used as a "quick boot" option on all the larger devices (read desktops/laptops) and as the primary OS on smaller form factors like tablets and smartphones (if HP intend to put out smartphones, that is)

Not quite sure if it will turn up on servers, though. Can't see it having any use there and such fluff would only turn off IT departments who want their servers to be lean, streamlined and dedicated to a specific task.


By marvdmartian on 3/9/2011 3:23:18 PM , Rating: 1
For sure, if they didn't do it as a dual-boot, and instead went entirely with WebOS, we'd see HP plummet in the market, practically overnight. I doubt even taking $100 off the price of a system would get them sold!


Wow
By FITCamaro on 3/9/2011 10:57:35 AM , Rating: 2
Sounds like a great (read horrible) idea.

Can WebOS even make use of the resources of a modern PC with quad core CPUs, 4GB of RAM, and 1TB hard drives?




RE: Wow
By Suntan on 3/9/2011 1:20:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Can WebOS even make use of the resources of a modern PC with quad core CPUs, 4GB of RAM, and 1TB hard drives?


Just as much as your average email client and web browser can…

WebOS isn’t for trying to run Photoshop or Video editing. It’s for basic stuff you would use on a tablet or a smartphone. Only you would have an option to do it on your regular computer.

Personally, as a person that uses a WebOS smartphone (but as someone that isn’t likely to get a tablet) I’d honestly say that I could see me or my wife booting to WebOS to do basic email and websurfing activites on the livingroom laptop. Depending on how it is implemented, I could see it being quicker and an overall better experience than booting up to open Firefox and Thunderbird inside Win7.

Further, there are a small handful of apps on my smartphone that I’d value to have on my laptop.

In any case, HP has said many times in various pressers that the intention for doing this is to offer many more devices/customers for app developers to entice them to create more apps for WebOS. Not because they want to overthrow MS as the default OS on their PCs.

-Suntan


Resorting to gimmics isn't how you save a business
By GatoRat on 3/9/2011 12:25:20 PM , Rating: 2
HP Printers are awesome, but their web site and everything else they do sucks beyond belief. They offer few competitive products and have a web site that is insanely confusing and unhelpful.

In the past, HP was known for high quality equipment and very high prices. They were, in many respects, America's SONY. They still are in that the quality is now horrible, but prices still not competitive and the company seems to have no focus.

HPs are the worse systems I've ever purchased, worked with or obtained. Only Toshiba has more crapware. They provide absolutely lousy support which makes Dell look good by comparison. (Speaking of which, how is it that I can get a "loaded" HP netbook for MORE than a run-of-the-mill Dell laptop that is faster and more capable?

HP has too many managers and too many MBAs working for it.




By Taft12 on 3/9/2011 1:30:20 PM , Rating: 2
The CEO badmouths Hurd's tactics (as he should) but his predecessor Carly Fiorina was even worse. I don't know if HP will ever recover its former glory, but at least this new guy is doing at least some things to right the wrongs done over the past decade.


Wow, did Leo listen to me?
By Conficio on 3/9/2011 1:23:58 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know if my fellow German did listen to my post when HP did announce WebOS 3 (guess not). But I really like the idea of WebOS as a side kick to a PC.

I mean look at the various efforts of Mac OS X or WIndows 8 to add more Mobile app like features to the PC experience. Or few the WebOS as the HPTC feature build into Mac OS X.

Hardware is for most of the average PC user no differentiator anymore. For surfing the web, writing e-mails crafting the occasional document, streaming video, listening to music, and playing some casual game, most PC's can do that. If you do any of those things hard core, then you might need some high end machine, but for day to day office or home use low to medium end desktops or laptops are just fine.

Now what matters is battery live and ease of use. As Apple (and other mobile OS) showed us that simple and down to the point is of value, especially if it allows me to make devices lighter and run longer on battery. Why are there so many "read this web site" apps if that is not true. So a "PC" on a mobile platform that runs more of a mobile OS might be all I need for my receptionist, my support call center, my second PC in the kitchen, my tablet, my netbook, etc.

And it is also a system question. If you look at the communication features of moving my activity from the phone to the table (and with that move any PC, wether its my kitchen PC, my Media PC, ...) than this becomes a good reason why I'd buy HP instead of Apple or Dell.

Build web OS also into the printer, going from a printer being a throw away purchase that has to be supported by cardridge sales to a small internet (and WebOS) access terminal that also prints (I think of it as the PC in the hall way where I check something [standing] before I leave the house) or works as a charging/sync statin fo rmy phone/tablet. Or think of tabbing your phone against the printer to auto print instead of simply transferring the URL as between phone and tablet. That would be nice!

Another point is open access terminals. If you have such an infrastructure you can run easily an ope terminal with a touch screen like an information terminal in a lobby and offer the tab to transfer ability to start a session and transfer the results (the law firm McGillivry & ... is on the third floor apt #3125) back to the phone and close the session (erasing the query and result). Think of access to buildings, employee puch cards, visitor books (at landmarks wakes, museums, ...), flight/train/hotel/transportation information at airports/train stations/bus terminals, etc.




By firechiefsta on 3/9/2011 1:45:37 PM , Rating: 2
as another fellow German, any tablet or "mobile" device with a screen size larger than 6" w/out a pen input, is useless. Pen input represents so much more than just an input device, what are tablets and mobile devies larger than 4" replacing? the notepad! It's instant, quick, personal (again) & most of all: conveniently purposeful.


developers, developers, developers
By kleinma on 3/9/2011 8:05:06 PM , Rating: 1
So for a software developer who wants to leverage the OS and hardware to the point where a web based solution does not work, if they want to reach the most possible users, they need to write their app to work on

Windows
Windows 7 Phone
OSX
iOS
Linux
ChromeOS
Android OS
WebOS

Then besides just what actual OS, there are the details like version of those given systems, or even versions of versions.

I mean, do we really need all these friggin operating systems that don't talk to each other well at all???

MS should just say fuck off to HP, buy Nokia and a PC maker like asus, and make their own stuff.




By firechiefsta on 3/9/2011 11:55:55 PM , Rating: 2
good call


Even more reason
By Kurz on 3/9/2011 10:40:51 AM , Rating: 2
Even more reason for me to make sure I have an OEM OS Disk so I can wipe the Harddrive and make sure I only have the bare essentials.




By firechiefsta on 3/9/2011 12:33:37 PM , Rating: 2
Too funny. the point isn't if Webos can or can not take advantage of certain hardware, but what hardware it was MEANT to be on. WebOS was meant to be a mobile operating system. A pretty bad-ass one at that. But if you think your going to jump your sales from 1% to anything significant (let's just say MS mobile 7, barely 7-8%), you better have a hell of a lot more than that. Fix Webos, it's buggy. I've had more restarts and issues than my tried and true Treo 680. With regards to hardware, get HTC to license, they can build hardware like no other, and customize it to that platform like no other. Hpalm, -YOUR HARDWARE SUCKS-. Putting it on a computer, much less an hp hardware/laptop, ain't gonna help. I'm going to say it: look at Apple. Beat em. Smack em down like a Charlie Sheen cocaine induced hooker session, WINNING!




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