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HP Blackbird 002 on its stand, capable of withstanding up to 600 lbs  (Source: HP)

The HP Blackbird 002 opened up  (Source: HP)
HP's new Blackbird 002 is the result of the a year's worth of collaboration with Voodoo PC

HP and Voodoo PC are set to unveil the fruition of their efforts after the acquisition of Voodoo PC in the form of a new enthusiast oriented gaming machine next week  – the HP Blackbird 002. The new HP Blackbird 002 sports a completely new chassis design, built from the ground up for looks, performance and versatility.

The new Blackbird 002 chassis features a completely aluminum chassis sporting a wedge-shaped design. HP’s Blackbird 002 features a hover design, where the chassis sits on a cast aluminum stand for a hovering look. The cast aluminum stand raises the chassis off the ground to provide airflow to the system’s 1100 Watt power supply mounted at the bottom of the chassis. The stand can also support up to 600 pounds, allowing users to stand on the system or set a couple concrete blocks on it.

HP touts the Blackbird 002’s superior thermal capabilities. The Blackbird 002 features a sealed, maintenance free water-cooling system. The water-cooling system cools the processor and graphics cards while keeping the system quiet. HP also touts the chassis’ isolated design, keeping every component chamber isolated and preventing hot air from contaminating the cool air stream.

The chassis also features a completely tool-less design, allowing owners to remove or replace all components without the needs of any tools. HP equips the Blackbird 002 with plenty of lighting. The chassis features accent and task lighting, according to Mark Solomon, lead designer, HP Gaming. Accent lighting highlights certain aspects of the Blackbird 002 such as the stand and front grille while task lighting highlights helpful portions of the case such as the chassis interior and rear ports.

The company claims it will equip the Blackbird 002 with industry standard components and the best components available.  The chassis will accommodate standard off the shelf components such as motherboards, video cards, hard drives and memory.  The system will also come with standard BIOS, allowing users to tweak and overclock the system to their liking.

Expect the HP Blackbird 002 to show up on HP’s online store immediately, ready to take on Dell’s XPS 720 H2C. Pricing can vary from $2,500 to $6,500 depending on configuration.


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600 lbs eh?
By FITCamaro on 9/5/2007 6:12:45 PM , Rating: 5
I demand a test! Have a really fat guy sit on it. See if it breaks.




RE: 600 lbs eh?
By sxr7171 on 9/5/2007 6:20:26 PM , Rating: 2
I'd pay a lot for that case at least.


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By iGo on 9/5/2007 7:28:09 PM , Rating: 2
Ditto.... Gotta love that Chassis.
I must say, HP + VooDoo didn't turned out to be a dud merger. This design does look Gooood. I also liked the way lighting is incorporated.. at in pictures is doesn't look overdone.


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By TomCorelis on 9/6/07, Rating: 0
RE: 600 lbs eh?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 9/7/2007 7:40:49 AM , Rating: 3
Check out the tech specs? Who wrote these things LOL!
http://h20435.www2.hp.com/#/tech-specs/

quote:
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX, with 756MB of GDDR2 SDRAM

Right so if anyone can find me an 8800GTX using GDDR2 I will be amazed.

quote:
Five independent Serial ATA slot loading hard drive bays

Whoooo slot loading hard drives, that must be some serious shit eh?

quote:
ATI RADEON X2900™ XT 1GB, with 1GB of GDDR2 SDRAM

Yea guess the ATI guys only use GDDR2 as well these days, budget constraints maybe?

quote:
1GB 1GHz CORSAIR PC2-8500 DDR2 SDRAM SLI enabled

Yea ok so there are 4 DIMM slots on the board and this machine only comes with 1 Gig of ram? I dunno about you guys but for what this sucker costs it better have 2 or 4 gigs standard.

quote:
Weight (full configuration): 72 pounds

72 Pounds!?!? This thing is a freaking tank!

quote:
Ageia PhysX™ PCI-E GFX Accelerator Card

Oh nice, so when did they roll out a PCI-E based PhysX card? I thought that stuff was PCI only.

quote:
Four slots for up to two PCIe graphics cards

Wait, so where does the PhysX card go? Do you have to pick, a second video card or PhysX? Well shit theres a no brainer.

quote:
Dual-link DVI ports support up to 2560 by 1600 pixels.

Ok thats cool and all..... but wait, wouldnt that be a function of the specific video cards? And oh wait shit, if you SLI or Crossfire you can't? Uh.......

Ok yea I think the point is made. Whoever wrote the tech specs page needs to be fired. I wonder if I bought one right now if I could file suit that their "Tech Specs" were falsely advertised and I didn't get the machine with the specs they say LOL!


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By TomZ on 9/7/2007 10:07:50 PM , Rating: 2
Good points, each one of them. Must have been rated down by some Voodoo fanbois.


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By MrPoletski on 9/11/2007 8:41:13 AM , Rating: 2
hehe my 8800gtx has 12mb more memory than that too.

About the physx in PCI-e, AGEIA have unveilved their second gen unit, which will be on PCI-e. I'm not sure if it's the same chip with a new interface or something more powerful than the first.

Either way, moving to PCI-e might actually make these worth buying, as I recall the original clogged the PCI bus (because the PCI bus sucks) so it's full potential could not be unleashed. The greater physics calculations introduced too many bottlenecks in the rest of the system that this card could not handle. Bus traffic and extra GPU load being the main 2.

extra GPU load doesn't sound so bad, but it is, because although there is tonnes of power in these new cards, like my 8800gtx, their efficiency goes RIGHT down the toilet when handed gadzillions of very tiny objects... such as debris bits from a wall and such.


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By AstroCreep on 9/5/2007 6:28:09 PM , Rating: 2
They figure that 600lbs might be enough to withstand the ass of the average gamer. ;)


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By FITCamaro on 9/5/2007 7:22:49 PM , Rating: 2
Nice.


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By TomZ on 9/5/07, Rating: 0
RE: 600 lbs eh?
By retrospooty on 9/6/2007 12:23:57 AM , Rating: 5
That cant be right because the average gamer has no GF. ;)


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By TomZ on 9/5/2007 9:06:39 PM , Rating: 5
...or the average gamer's GF!

Kidding!


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By TomZ on 9/5/2007 9:07:13 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry about the dupe. Not sure how that happened.


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By fk49 on 9/5/2007 11:09:45 PM , Rating: 4
It was worth repeating :D


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By JonnyBlaze on 9/6/2007 12:11:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
...or the average gamer's GF!
or both ;)


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By borismkv on 9/6/2007 8:04:52 PM , Rating: 3
Are they separate? I always figured gamers CAME with a right hand anyway...


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By TomCorelis on 9/6/2007 11:48:19 PM , Rating: 2
So that's what caused the earthquake down here in SoCal a few days ago...


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By EarthsDM on 9/5/2007 11:19:50 PM , Rating: 2
My girlfriend* and I took one look at that case, and knew instantly how we would stress test its '600 lbs of support'. That said, it's a great looking PC. I think it's good that HP has said they're using off-the-shelf parts, you get the same drivers, and don't have to worry about weird errors or expansion problems.

*To answer TomZ's question, she weighs in at < 120 lbs. She's a hot blond who favorite distro is Gentoo, programs in Fortran, does research for Harvard; I'm head over heals in love with her :)


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By bryanW1995 on 9/6/2007 12:16:06 AM , Rating: 5
does she know that you can't spell?


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By Gul Westfale on 9/6/2007 12:19:27 AM , Rating: 2
hahahahah was thinking the same +1 foah yoo mai freend.


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By mikecel79 on 9/6/2007 11:11:52 AM , Rating: 2
This guy deserves a 6 for that!


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By Polynikes on 9/6/2007 11:57:35 AM , Rating: 2
So, if you and your girlfriend were going to test it, that would mean you weigh somewhere in the vicinity of 480 pounds?

That is, provided the testing method you and your girlfriend were planning involved doing something dirty on top of it. ;)


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By Frank M on 9/7/2007 8:23:49 AM , Rating: 2
Would we not know her, because she lives in Canada?


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By drebo on 9/7/2007 10:38:40 AM , Rating: 2
Avenue Q reference! Right on!

I wish you could meet my girlfriend...but you can't be cause she is in CANADAAAAAA!


RE: 600 lbs eh?
By TomZ on 9/7/2007 10:05:59 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
To answer TomZ's question, she weighs in at < 120 lbs. She's a hot blond who favorite distro is Gentoo, programs in Fortran, does research for Harvard; I'm head over heals in love with her :)

See, I know you're making that shit up, because nobody programs in Fortran any more, and those who do know better than to tell anyone else they do! :o)


Interesting
By gramboh on 9/5/2007 6:38:01 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like a high quality custom build inside. I like it more than what Dell and Alienware offer. Would be intersting to see a full review, although I'm in the custom build part of the market myself.

Standard BIOS is cool too (allows for updates).




RE: Interesting
By Felofasofa on 9/5/2007 6:48:22 PM , Rating: 3
In the age of Enthusiast PC's this is not a bad effort. But considering most enthusiasts build their own, and this thing will cost bundles, I can't see it being revenue significant, but more aimed at Brand enhancing.


RE: Interesting
By soydios on 9/5/2007 10:14:29 PM , Rating: 4
Exactly. It's a halo product. There's some enthusiasts that have so much money that they can't be bothered with the nuts and bolts of building their own PC (something I enjoy doing myself), or they don't care and just want it to work, and be able to call up someone and say "It's broke, fix it."


RE: Interesting
By TomCorelis on 9/6/2007 11:50:40 PM , Rating: 2
It's not an enthusiast PC.... it's an "enthusiast" PC.


RE: Interesting
By slayerized on 9/5/2007 7:08:18 PM , Rating: 3
I must say that the interior looks pretty slick and impressive. The exterior however looks like a blown up Maxtor external hard drive. Is this system a "transformer"- a multi-purpose gaming system, a dining table, a chair, and a couch? Thats the only reason I see the need for a design to support 600lbs.


RE: Interesting
By Frank M on 9/7/2007 8:27:06 AM , Rating: 2
what he said.


Interesting little rig
By Comdrpopnfresh on 9/5/2007 7:37:41 PM , Rating: 1
"The stand can also support up to 600 pounds, allowing users to stand on the system or set a couple concrete blocks on it."

friggin sweet. I've been wanting to stress my computer in other ways.

The only downsides I can see is that the water blocks in the system are probably machine poorly in comparison on hand lapping them. Plus, with the case risen off the ground, won't there be more noise from HDDs, That behemoth psu, and general circulation fans? Isn't this in directly the opposite direction the market is going, with moving heavy, vibrating components lower in the case (case in point- all of antec's recent cases)




RE: Interesting little rig
By afkrotch on 9/5/2007 9:17:54 PM , Rating: 3
I also love the way ppl come in with stupid lapping. It only works to fix flaws in heatsinks/heatspreaders when hey come out concave. For the most part, not an issue with a quality build heatsink, but an issue with heatspreaders on the proc.

So, when's the last time you lapped your proc? Course if it's perfectly level, lapping provides zero increase. Always best to test with a razor for levelness.


RE: Interesting little rig
By Hare on 9/5/2007 11:53:51 PM , Rating: 2
I lapped my Core 2 Duo. Lowered my temps around 10C. C2D's are notoriously concave (edges higher then the center). I have no idea how much more I could oc now but it's definately easier to keep my rig silent.


RE: Interesting little rig
By porkpie on 9/6/2007 10:40:13 AM , Rating: 3
Yep, someone has definitely been drinking the hand-lapping Kool-Aid. Machine lapping is superior if its done properly. Hand lapping is to fix a screwup in the machining process, not an automatic requirement.


RE: Interesting little rig
By PaxtonFettel on 9/6/2007 2:12:38 AM , Rating: 3
I'd have said vibration would be a big concern too, with the weight of the whole system on that single point. As it's a premium PC, one would hope that they'd do extensive testing for things like resonance that maybe don't get tested normally.


RE: Interesting little rig
By BZDTemp on 9/7/2007 6:53:08 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think so since the cooling is a custom job from ASETEK


Water lines
By OddTSi on 9/5/2007 9:43:31 PM , Rating: 2
I'm curious if those are the actual water lines or if that's just covering the actual water lines and/or giving them kink protection. If those are the actual lines, how do they connect to the water block?




RE: Water lines
By biostud on 9/6/2007 7:26:30 AM , Rating: 3
the water setup is the asetek LCLC

http://www.asetek.com/content/view/405/191/


RE: Water lines
By yehuda on 9/6/2007 11:31:02 AM , Rating: 3
It's a pity the LCLC is not available outside the OEM space.


RE: Water lines
By yehuda on 9/6/2007 11:37:43 AM , Rating: 1
Motherboard Support BOTH Crossfire & SLI
By ddarko on 9/6/2007 2:10:14 AM , Rating: 4
Check out the cnet review of the Blackbird. It reveals that they adjusted the Nvidia 680i SLI motherboard so that it also supports Crossfire! Neat trick, although cnet speculates that it may be also some performance problems in the FEAR game benchmark.

On the downside, the optical drives are slot-loading so your ability to upgrade them in the future will be limited to your ability to find slot-loading form factors, which aren't exactly easy to find. In any case, here's the full review:

http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-blackbird-002/...




By subhajit on 9/7/2007 12:09:40 PM , Rating: 3
Here's a link to a interview with Rahul Sood, he's saying that it can do crossfire with NVidia Chipset.
http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/601278/hp-offers-cr...


looks well engineered.
By otispunkmeyer on 9/6/2007 6:46:47 AM , Rating: 2
or might that be over engineered?

thats what i like, i love it when things are uneccessarily over engineered. they exude an unwaivering amount of quality and sturdyness.

an aluminium foot, with the case basically canterlevered on it and it can support 600lbs? even tho its Alu, i bet thats one hefty case. might give the mail man a hernia!




RE: looks well engineered.
By Keeir on 9/6/2007 11:39:46 PM , Rating: 2
There are many alloys of aluminum. Aircraft grade aluminum (which this is almost certainly not) typically has strength ranges in the 40,000 to 60,000 lbs per sq inch. If the structure is properly designed and uses high quality aluminum there is no reason to believe the case itself is significantly heavier than any Lian Li all aluminum case and certainly lighter than most steel cases.


RE: looks well engineered.
By EpsilonKore on 9/10/2007 3:29:41 PM , Rating: 2
Looks over engineered to me as well. Reminds me of my Dual G5 water cooled Mac. (and many of the later Mac Pro designs)
Slide out drives : check
Aluminum frame : check
Pass through airflow : check
Water cooling : check
Weighs a ton : check
Stunning yet "understated" look : check

I know Apple wasn't the first to do this, nor should they get all the credit, but it does seem like many companies are adopting at least some of the better implemented designs of Apple as their "look at our high end entry" designs.


What about heat?
By AutomationX on 9/6/2007 11:58:46 AM , Rating: 2
From my experiance working on the computers, the one kink in this machine's design is the power supply. Why would anyone want a 1100 watt power supply underneath all the other system components? That is a ton of unecessary heat added to that produced by the CPU or the video card that must be removed.

Why not move the power supply to the top. It would help the machine run cooler without needing any extra energy to be spent on cooling. It would make more sense that way.




RE: What about heat?
By DeepBlue1975 on 9/6/2007 3:20:14 PM , Rating: 2
BTX Format puts PSUs down there.

PSU's Heat usually don't get so much inside the case as they travel out and away through the PSU's external fan pushing air out and the auxiliary one drawing air from the case...

This helps keeping the PSU cooler as a CPU situated "upstairs" would likely suck more hot air from the case's inside than if it were installed on the lower sector.

Besides, a 1.1KW PSU, should heat less than a 600W one, provided they're handling the same load (lets say some 450w), because the 600 one would be working at more than 90% of its "real continuous capacity" while the 1.1KW one would be comfortable cruising at a 50% of its continuous output (I'm assuming around 80% efficiency for both PSUs in this example)


RE: What about heat?
By malafide on 9/6/2007 9:34:02 PM , Rating: 2
If power output of both PSUs is 450W and efficiency is 80% for both PSUs, both of them dissipate 112,5W as heat.
The more powerful PSU might actually be less efficient.
Switched-mode power supply tends to have its efficiency plummet below certain load level and it can have an efficiency peak somewhere above the said load level. The peak and its parameters are more or less a design decision.
I used google to find illustration. http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/power-supp...

You give an impression that the Blackbird is BTX format and I think that is incorrect. If that was not your intention, I am sorry for the misunderstanding.


ASUS ...
By 457R4LDR34DKN07 on 9/5/2007 7:28:49 PM , Rating: 2
What mobo cpu ram? specs please




Looks nice
By shamgar03 on 9/5/2007 9:48:50 PM , Rating: 2
I would be willing to pay for something like that....if it is at HP prices. Voodoo prices are absurdly high, as nice as this is I wouldn't pay > 400$ premium.




By DeepBlue1975 on 9/6/2007 8:41:29 AM , Rating: 2
As far as looks go, I'd buy a case like that with no issues at all!
It was time for a bit of innovation without going over the top or getting too freaky like the Lian Li PC6077 (that one looking like a turbine, don't remember if that was the model).

I'm not fond of water cooling though, as it usually needs more careful maintenance than air cooled or even than phase cooled PCs.




Yawn
By sc0rpi0 on 9/5/07, Rating: -1
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