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HP assaults the low-end with $100 Android tablet

We knew that Hewlett-Packard was taking budget tablet offerings seriously when it launched the $170 HP 8 1401 — an 8” Android tablet — back in early March. However, the company is going even further by making available an even cheaper tablet for U.S. customers.
The HP 7 Plus, as its name implies, comes with a 7” display featuring a screen resolution of 1024x600. It also comes with a quad-core, ARM Cortex A7-based processor from Allwinner (it won’t win any performance competitions, but it’s “good enough”), front- and rear-facing cameras, 8GB of onboard storage, a microSD slot, and 802.11n connectivity. HP even throws in a 25GB of free Box storage for life with purchase of the tablet.

And best of all, the price tag for the 0.65-pound HP 7 Plus is an extremely reasonable $100.
The $100 price tag means that you’ll have to do without Bluetooth, and its operating system is already outdated (it comes preloaded with Android 4.2.2 Jellybean). And you’ll have look past the relatively poor battery life of just five and a half hours on a charge via its 2800 mAh battery.
However, if you’re just looking for a cheap tablet for mom or the kids, there’s really not much to complain about here. And unlike cheap Fire-branded tablets from Amazon, you actually have full access to the Google Play Store and Google Mobile Services.

Sources: Hewlett-Packard, Neowin

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Only thing going for it is price
By atechfan on 5/22/14, Rating: 0
RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Nortel on 5/22/2014 9:35:51 AM , Rating: 2
Wasn't there a time when 'HP' meant quality? Now it's a joke.

By Mitch101 on 5/22/2014 10:26:22 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sure this beats the no name/off brands that are out there and this is smart of HP to try and capture the low end market. Its not top end device but there is a market for a decent brand name low cost device.

I am disappointed that it doesn't have blu-tooth because I would like to use this as music jukebox or have blu-tooth headsets when travelling.

Im not one who gets hung up on screen resolution either besides to play native 1080p content takes a ton of space when you travel you want to take more than 1 movie so I would encode maybe even down to 480p so you can have plenty of content to watch on a trip after all the screen is 8".

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By retrospooty on 5/22/14, Rating: 0
RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Samus on 5/22/2014 11:54:01 AM , Rating: 2
Wow people it's a $100 tablet.

HP still has very high quality products (Dreamcolor LCD displays, Elitebook/Elitedesk workstations, the worlds best enterprise servers) but that doesn't mean they can't release products for people on a budget to steer them away from entirely generic devices that normally fill the sub-$100 segment.

Being the largest manufacture of electronics in the world, they have the unique position of having to cater to all markets, unlike Apple who only caters to the high end, and Acer who tries their best to make quality products but for the most part, caters to the extreme budget crowd.

Dell, Toshiba, Gateway, Asus, Lenovo (Idea-series) all fill the middle.

And speaking of Lenovo...I know they're #3, but do you really think it's their enterprise products that have picked up steam? It's mostly their low end Ideapad laptops that accounted for 54% of their gross income and many of those I wouldn't consider very high quality.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By atechfan on 5/22/2014 1:18:43 PM , Rating: 3
It just isn't the market HP should be chasing. They can't compete on price with the Chinese and still maintain profit margins. HP has pissed away their once respected name with stunts like this. They still make some really nice gear, but then ruin names like Envy by slapping it on a cheap printer with some bling on it.

If HP also had some premium Android tablets so could present a range of them, it would be different. But it seems only Samsung can manage to take Android high-end in tablets. Maybe Google subsidizing the Nexus line means no one else wants to bother trying.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Reclaimer77 on 5/22/14, Rating: 0
RE: Only thing going for it is price
By atechfan on 5/22/2014 2:28:06 PM , Rating: 2
Nice to see you as predictable as usual. Getting button hurt over a perceived slight on Android. I didn't say anything negative about three OS. If this were a Windows RT device, I would still think it was junk. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention when I criticized Acer for putting out crap. Unlike you, I'm quite capable of separating the device from the OS.

By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 6:47:33 PM , Rating: 2
"HP has pissed away their once respected name with stunts like this."

HP has pissed away their once respected name with 15+ years of piss poor leadership from the top down. Low end products like this have nothing to do with it.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 10:03:11 AM , Rating: 2
"At least it is cheap"

I dunno. It's good for it's price. You cant slam every low end device because its low end. That is by design.

I could see someone that was broke but wanted a basic tablet buying this at $99, or probably soon to be $79 as prices drop. I wouldn't... If I were broke I would rather by a used Nexus on Ebay or similar for the same price, but for someone that doesn't know that, doesnt want used, or doesnt want to spend alot, there is nothing wrong with this tablet for the price. Options are good.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Monkey's Uncle on 5/22/2014 10:17:20 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. You won't find a 7" device with better specs for less than $100.

This is great if you want to get your high-school teenager something cheap for his birthday. Has all the basics and with a quad core processor it isn't too much of a slouch.

By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 10:19:32 AM , Rating: 2
Yup... When this was first leaking a few weeks back, I assumed it would be $199, thinking way overpriced, but for $99, it's a good deal for someone that needs it. Another good target is "old aunt gladys" - a good starter tablet for anyone.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By callmeizzy on 5/22/2014 10:18:24 AM , Rating: 5
99% of tablet use is email, games and video. You don't need high end devices for that.

Tablets are still just toys.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Falacer on 5/22/2014 11:50:44 AM , Rating: 3
Agreed this is a low end device. It's a good purchase if you have smaller children and need something inexpensive for them to use.

I really like the micro SD card slot dont have to waste storage for movies on the device.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Samus on 5/22/2014 11:58:16 AM , Rating: 2
+1 on the microSD slot. Many tablets costing 5x as much (ahem) don't have expandable storage at all. Although I'd guess the vast majority of people who buy this particular tablet will never use an SD card.

However, I've always found an SD slot convenient for popping pictures/videos onto my tablet from my camera.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By tonyswash on 5/22/14, Rating: 0
RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Spuke on 5/22/2014 12:43:51 PM , Rating: 2
I was ready to plus 1 your ass until the second sentence. Geezus man, can't you pull your head of your ass just ONE time?

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 1:03:01 PM , Rating: 2
He cant. he has no self control when the word "Apple" is mentioned.

Nevermind high end Android phones and tablets run circles around his precious. It's all just "toys" except for Apple of course. /s

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By tonyswash on 5/22/14, Rating: 0
RE: Only thing going for it is price
By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 1:45:44 PM , Rating: 2
Very scientific... Can you just stop the illogical shillery Tony? We all know when you are speaking of anything other than Apple you are clearly an intelligent person with alot to add... Yet at soon as Apple is mentioned, you throw all logic out the Window and become a complete and utter tool. The "non-Apple" Tony I know is smart enough to realize what a tool the "Apple Tony" is. Its long past time to grow out of the company first mental block you are in and re-join the humans. We can use you on the light side.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By ven1ger on 5/22/2014 4:53:12 PM , Rating: 2
Only problem is that he is the one injecting Apple into it. Nowhere was this even in comparison to Apple as Apple doesn't pursue the low-end market.

Have yet to see what an iPad can do specifically that any other tablet cannot replicate. And in many cases, I've seen where it may have started out with an iPad in the workplace, but have been replaced with a cheaper alternative because they eventually figured out that the same job could be done on a cheaper device.

By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 5:13:44 PM , Rating: 2
I know... Tony must see cheap androids as a threat otherwise he wouldn't come in with his usual evasion tactics. It wasnt about Apple in any way shape or form, no one mentioned Apple yet in charges Tony "But... Apple..." ... Maybe that was the problem. Here was a discussion about tablets nad no-one even mentioned Apple. LOL.

Hey Tony... APPLE!

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By Nekrik on 5/22/2014 12:45:20 PM , Rating: 2
People will buy these expecting a full featured experience, then they will find that a 1024x600 display just sucks for doing anything via a browser. At that point they will say their tablet sucks, and if past histories of OSes holds consistent, Android sucks as well by association since they had a bad experience with a cheap device.

By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 1:05:55 PM , Rating: 3
People wanting a $99 tablet arent expecting a full fetured experience and probably don't know what 1024x600 means toward that experience.

Not every car is a Mercedes or BMW or needs to be. Companies like Honda and Toyota have made small fortunes making average cars that get you there... Nothing wrong with it if its priced right, and for $99, this is not bad.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By KoolAidMan1 on 5/23/2014 11:50:35 PM , Rating: 3
Its one more slow Android tablet with missing/bad apps that's going to get tossed in the junk drawer.

At least they have Baghdad Bob style defenders saying "it's all good, the faster hardware with better software sucks. Because logos and things..."

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By retrospooty on 5/24/2014 12:42:12 AM , Rating: 2
Seriously? You are going to compare a tablet that is already $85 to a $499 iPad? Well, I will give you that. The iPad is better.

You aren't even making a coherent argument on anything, just up on your Apple is better because its better soapbox. This is a budget tablet and it is infinitely better for people that don't care enough or don't have the money for a high end tablet. I dont wnat it either, come on, its WAY low end, but most grannies and kiddies just need something basic to browse , email and play games on and this is just fine for its target market. You do understand what a target market is right? Because it seems that you don't get that this isn't competing for the $499 10 inch tablet market.

You're trolling would be better served in an article that was about a product that actually competed with Apple. Then at least your nonsense would be in the right place (but still incorrect).

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By KoolAidMan1 on 5/24/2014 2:45:59 AM , Rating: 3
"One more" is the important wording here. Doesn't matter though. Change the price to $500 and it's still the same problems on a higher res screen. Same slower hardware, same lack of apps.

There's a reason why 80% of tablet online usage is iOS. Everything else is sitting in junk drawers.

RE: Only thing going for it is price
By retrospooty on 5/24/2014 8:32:42 AM , Rating: 2
Funny, you pop in here again joining a conversation about an $85 tablet claiming the same issues we have shown you aren't true... Nevermind... That's fine. I am not feeding you this weekend. We have been back and forth on hte same issues and you are just trolling at this point. I will just say this, have a good memorial day.

By KoolAidMan1 on 5/24/2014 4:12:14 PM , Rating: 2
You haven't shown any of the issues with library, hardware, enterprise adoption, or online share to be untrue. Saying "wrong" doesn't change anything without backup.

As for my post, I was agreeing with another one talking about how a cheap low res device is a bad value, like most Android hardware. You should relax.

Have a good Memorial Day

Brilliant move
By Dorkyman on 5/22/2014 11:03:30 AM , Rating: 5
I think it's brilliant. If HP can make a reliable device for that price point, they will do very well.

There are Early Adopters who think nothing of dropping $400+ for a whizzy tablet. Then there is the rest of the world, and that market is a thousand times larger.

If Apple had done this, the Apple sheeple would be saying, "Wow! The genius of Jobs still permeates the company! Apple is bringing technology to the world!" And so forth.

RE: Brilliant move
By McGaiden on 5/22/2014 12:39:02 PM , Rating: 3
Is junk going to sell? Maybe, at the margins. But even people on a constrained budget will want to spend a bit more, but not too much, for quality. This is why companies like Xiaomi are growing so fast, despite razor-thin margins, or why Motorola's Moto G model is their best selling model ever.

The Moto G is cheap, yes, but it is not junk. It's head and shoulders above the previous budget junk that people at the sub-200 dollar segment had to endure, and the same is true of Moto E.

HP's strategy hasn't worked for them so far and the reason is that they mass-produce forgettable stuff. Motorola's ship is turning around because they understand that just because you don't have much money doesn't mean you want to settle for junk.

RE: Brilliant move
By headbox on 5/22/2014 12:42:34 PM , Rating: 2
Apple doesn't care for the masses, like BMW doesn't care for the masses. Is it better to release a profitable product that others aspire to own, or to release a bare bones entry level years later? This isn't medicine. This isn't freeing slaves. This is an electronic gadget, and it doesn't matter of the entire world can afford to flappy bird in their mud hut.

RE: Brilliant move
By tayb on 5/22/2014 4:56:24 PM , Rating: 3
I think it's stupid. The margins on this thing have to be razor thin. HP is once again racing to the bottom. Why do they want to be king of the low end? Apple would never play in this space because it isn't profitable enough.

Not only that but I don't the masses are even interested in a tablet this cheap. I would guess that most people would rather spend a little more and get a lot more. The performance difference between this and the Nexus 7 is enormous. $140 isn't a lot of money.

And finally the idea of HP making a quality consumer product at the low end is pretty comical in my opinion. The low end consumer line from HP is the epitome of shit products.

I'll wait for the inevitable fire sale and grab one of these for $30 to be used as my Plex remote.

RE: Brilliant move
By inperfectdarkness on 5/23/2014 5:42:09 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. Just emphasizes how overpriced an iPad is at $700.

RE: Brilliant move
By Nyanyanya on 5/23/2014 10:54:46 PM , Rating: 2
Probably $150 in Europe as usual.

Only problem is the resolution
By Nutzo on 5/22/2014 12:57:41 PM , Rating: 3
The screen resolution is to low, even for a 7" tablet. 1024x600 just isn't enough.

If this tablet had 1280x800 it would be a great deal, even if they had to charge an extra $20.

By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 12:59:16 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, that is a good point. Or possibly both a $99 1024x600 and a $119 1280x800 would be good.

By xprojected on 5/22/2014 2:16:56 PM , Rating: 2
They sell a 1280x800 version for $149, called the Slate7 Plus. It also ups the SoC to a Tegra 3, adds Bluetooth, a 4000 mAh battery, GPS, and a 5 MP rear camera. So you do get some upgrades for the extra $50. Finally they have the Slate7 Extreme with a Tegra 4 and 16 GB for $199.. a little less value at that price point.

By johnsonx on 5/22/2014 6:13:40 PM , Rating: 3
The ASUS MemoPad HD is often available for $129, sometimes even $99 (I have two for my kids, one purchased at each price), and is far superior to this HP thing in every way. It's about halfway between the original Nexus 7 and the new Nexus 7, and also has a rear camera which my kids love.

By retrospooty on 5/22/2014 6:45:50 PM , Rating: 2
Still you are talking about a product that has been out and price has already dropped. It's $144 at Amazon and Newegg. This ting will drop too like anything does. In a few months it will be $79 and there will be sales and special offers too. You have to grade on the same curve.

By johnsonx on 5/23/2014 12:09:40 PM , Rating: 2
yeah, it looks like ASUS has come out with the MemoPad HD 7 Lite to sell in the $99 to $129 range, which allows the older-but-still-very-good regular HD 7 to move back to it's intended $149 price. The Lite model is still quite superior to the HP 7 though, as the only noticeable losses are storage and cameras which are still equal or better than HP.

I also would have argued that the $99 price of the new HP offering is probably a less-discountable price, but HP has already offered $15-off.

HP takes a backseat in value
By corduroygt on 5/22/2014 11:40:05 AM , Rating: 2
You might think $99 for this is impressive, but a couple years ago you could've gotten the much better specced HP Touchpad for $99 :)

OK, but
By SDBud on 5/23/2014 2:44:40 AM , Rating: 2

Not bad specs, except for the 2 meg camera. Something like 5 megs couldn't cost THAT much more.

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