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Nurse, I need an HP Slate, STAT!  (Source: HP)

HP Slate 500  (Source: HP)
HP is hoping to capture corporate customers with long awaited device, eschews the mass market

The HP Slate first popped up at Microsoft's CES 2010 keynote when CEO Steve Ballmer showed off the device.  Months went by and the status of the tablet became increasingly unclear.  Hewlett-Packard Co. acquired Palm, Inc. in April leading some to believe that HP would scrap the Windows 7 Slate in favor of a tablet packing Palm's webOS.

But at long last HP has clarified the situation, officially announcing that the Slate project never died and has just launched as the HP Slate 500.

The device retails for $799 (see above link).  The device offers perhaps the closest competitor to the iPad yet, given its largish 8.9-inch screen (the iPad's screen is 9.7-inch in diagonal).

It gets handily beat by the iPad in battery life, only getting approximately 5 hours to the 10 hour lifespan of the device.  And it doesn't come with a built in 3G modem, despite the higher price.  A single USB port is included, which can be used for traditional USB modems, though.

However, in other departments it stacks up favorably against Apple's slab.  It packs a faster processor -- a 1.86 GHz single core Intel Atom Z540 processor (Apple's iPad packs a 1 GHz proprietary design, with a Samsung core).  And it has much more memory -- 2 GB -- versus 256 MB of RAM in the iPad.  It also includes front and rear cameras.  An SD card reader is also included, as is Bluetooth 3.0 (the iPad has no expandable memory and only has Bluetooth 2.1)

In addition to touch input, there's also pen-driven input thanks to "active digitizer" from Wacom.  Another perk is that the device comes with a full copy of Microsoft Windows 7 Professional edition.  The rest of the installed software is thankfully slim -- HP Slate Camera, EVERNOTE, HP Support Assistant, Adobe Reader, Adobe PDF.  Microsoft Office is 
not included.  Of course, with Windows 7, the Slate 500 can handle Flash -- something not possible on the iPad.  

New software can be installed by attaching an external CD/DVD drive to the USB port.  An important reminder, though, is that only 32 bit apps work on the Atom processor.

HD video is provided via a Broadcom Crystal HD chip.  

The iPad and the Slate 500 share virtually the same graphics processor.  The Slate 500 uses the Intel GMA 500 which contains a licensed PowerVR SGX 535 core from Imagination (not Intel) clocked at 200 MHz.  This four pipeline core is also used in Apple's A4 system-on-a-chip (SoC).  The screen resolution on the Slate 500 -- 1024x600 pixels -- is a slightly different aspect ration than the iPad's 1024x768.

The tablet features metal edges and a rubberized back.  

It measures 23.4 cm x 14.5 cm x 1.4 cm, compared to 24.3 cm x 19.0 cm x 1.34 cm.  In other words, they're both about the same thickness, but the iPad has a bigger footprint.

Interestingly HP is marketing the device exclusively to business customers, initially.  This is an interest tactic and perhaps a wise one given that Apple's iPad hasn't really made serious inroads in the business sector.  However, it may be selling the device's commercial appeal short, given that many non-business users might want a Windows 7 tablet as well.

Non-business customers can still head over to HP's business site and order one when the device launches.  The key difference is that the device will not be advertised or widely publicized to the mass market.  

Of course non-business customers might prefer the Android-powered Samsung Galaxy Tab, which has some superior features to the Slate 500 or the iPad.  In other words, customers will soon have three options with the launch of the Slate 500 and a welcome break from Apple's short-lived run of monopolizing the tablet sector.



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Awesome
By Spivonious on 10/22/2010 1:16:25 PM , Rating: 5
Install Office OneNote on this and you might just have the greatest note-taking device since pen and paper.




RE: Awesome
By mcnabney on 10/22/2010 1:35:48 PM , Rating: 3
This is actually an ideal device for the medical community. My doctor currently hauls around a hybrid tablet that is far bigger/heavier, costs 3x as much, and can't do much more than this thing. Five hours of battery are fine since it is plugged in/swapped during the lunch break. There is so much legacy business software for Windows that can be quickly and easily installed, HP should have a winner here.


RE: Awesome
By Phoque on 10/23/2010 11:57:12 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Five hours of battery are fine since it is plugged in/swapped during the lunch break.


I disaggree. Maybe for some doctors it would be fine but I would think 8 hours is a strict minimum for professionals.

Also, for those on the road in general, I think it is a hard sell too, unless they have easily replaceable battery.

~~~

Ultimately, I'd still prefer a Slate over an iPad. 5 hours would be more than enough for my personal use. But at this time, both the iPad and the Slate are too expensive for me to even consider buying one. I'll wait a few years when the market is saturated and the prices have dropped.


RE: Awesome
By SoCalBoomer on 10/25/2010 2:28:50 PM , Rating: 2
my note-taking laptop (Dell 11z) sits on my desk most of the day, plugged in . . . I take it with me to meetings but have yet to approach 8 hours unplugged. . . 5 hours should be just fine . . . 8 would be NICE


RE: Awesome
By Drag0nFire on 10/23/2010 9:59:55 PM , Rating: 3
Also, most doctors I know have pretty lousy handwriting. Everyone would benefit by giving them some way of typing notes other than an on screen keyboard...


RE: Awesome
By superPC on 10/22/2010 2:24:00 PM , Rating: 2
and it's almost as good as courier (with less pretty UI). i wonder if that's the reason MS canceled it. because they see that devices like this are coming and would have a lot more capability than the courier.


RE: Awesome
By Spivonious on 10/22/2010 5:14:24 PM , Rating: 3
I think the Courier was just an MS Research project, none of which are supposed to become real products. I think we'll see Courier-like devices coming out with Windows 8 in 2012.


RE: Awesome
By kmmatney on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: Awesome
By HighWing on 10/22/2010 4:13:09 PM , Rating: 3
Well it's mostly an issue of size and battery life. If this thing can be easier to carry, and last longer than a laptop, then it can easily replace a laptop in many, but not all, areas.

As to the pen and paper thing, think of it more as a notepad with an unlimited amount of paper, and the added ability to easily, and instantly, copy all pages to anyone who wants them. And then of course there's the ability to take photo's and attach them to the notes. I can see that being a big deal in the medical and science areas. That can even be useful in the classroom as you could then take photo's of what the teacher wrote on the wall.


RE: Awesome
By rudy on 10/23/2010 1:57:21 AM , Rating: 3
I use one note, and I can say it is way better then pen and paper. Here is the power of computers. Say you took a note down 6 months ago. Now you want to find it. It will take you about 15 seconds to think of the words to search and miss once or twice then get to what you want. No matter how many notes you take with one note, the total size of what you must carry around stays the same. I carry around far less now then I did when I took notes in paper. And that is saying alot because I have a 20 inch laptop or a phone or both. With a slate this thing will be smaller than even a single note pad. However I will not be getting those as I think a real tablet like the tm2t or just a powerful computer is much better.

One note automatically creates your table of contents. It gives you all colors of highlighters, it allows you to embed M$ office items such as tables graphs and so on.

Other things, say you want to take a note of something you found on a web page, just do an insert screen clipping. This is great for recording exact states of something you did or saw. Say your class tells you to go to a certain web page and process data you take a screen clipping and everyone knows exactly what you put in and what options you selects.

One note automatically records lots of things you would need to write by hand such as the date and time, web page or file you pulled something from. It allows you to link to things like files, or embed them and pictures entirely. And what is really great is you can link to other one note notes so for instance I do experiments and I like to design a protocol for how to do the experiment then each time I do the experiment I can link to that protocol rather than coping it all down over and over or writing see page X as with pencil and paper.

One note call assist with calculations jsut write your equation type = and press space and one note calculates the answer for you.

There is no competition a program like one note slaughters pencil and paper and people who feel this is not the case have simply never given it an honest shot. It took you at least 3 years of your life to learn how to write with a pencil do your self a favor and spend an insignificant month getting to know one note and you will never look back. You will take much better notes because it is so much less work to include more information.

The name of the game is efficiency something an engineer should be able to appreciate. And you will be many orders of magnitude more efficient with electronic note taking.


RE: Awesome
By Smilin on 10/25/2010 3:10:04 PM , Rating: 3
I was just gonna say OneNote F!@$ing rocks but all that stuff you said will work too.


RE: Awesome
By Smilin on 10/22/2010 5:08:58 PM , Rating: 4
OneNote is like Zune. Microsoft has some fascination with not letting the world know about their most awesome products.

Can't wait for OneNote on WP7. It'll be tied to the shared OneNote that the Mrs. and I use on all our PCs (and that I hit from the cloud when at work).


Fix it Mick!
By Pirks on 10/22/2010 1:17:46 PM , Rating: 2
"The iPad and the Slate 500 share virtually the same processor"

WTF?




RE: Fix it Mick!
By B3an on 10/22/2010 1:25:04 PM , Rating: 2
He meant the same GPU by PowerVR.


RE: Fix it Mick!
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 1:45:49 PM , Rating: 2
Yep same GPU, but who knows what its clocked at =/.. GMA500 core clock differs between models (100mhz vs 200mhz).

The iPhone 4/iPad is clocked at 200.. (by comparison the 3GS was clocked at 100MHZ)


RE: Fix it Mick!
By Samus on 10/22/2010 2:01:16 PM , Rating: 2
I'm still waiting for the Blackberry (ahem) 'Playbook'


RE: Fix it Mick!
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 2:07:23 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like its US15(L/W) based! So 200Mhz.. Exactly the same as the iPad.


RE: Fix it Mick!
By zorxd on 10/22/2010 3:02:33 PM , Rating: 2
How do you know that the iPhone 4's GPU is clocked at 200 MHz? Does it comes from the same guy who said that the CPU is clocked at 1GHz?


RE: Fix it Mick!
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 3:23:30 PM , Rating: 3
Because I'm Batman, thats how.

People thought the iPhone4 was clocked at 1GHZ because that is what the chip is rated, once benchmarks were performed to compare to the iPad, it became quite obvious it was not. Furthermore the A4 is a proprietary part, so we never had the spefics about it in the first place.. On the otherhand..

The SGX535 is rated at 28 MPolys/s at 200mhz, and that is what the iPad/iPhone benches..


Memory
By DrApop on 10/22/10, Rating: 0
RE: Memory
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 3:07:36 PM , Rating: 4
The bottom line is you will still have a lot more RAM to play with, even if windows apps consume more RAM by nature.

The iPad should have never been shipped with 256M RAM, its just not enough, especially with a screen and resolution that size . Safari struggles to open multi web pages some times that would not be an issue even on a 3GS due to not enough space for caching.

You could for all intents and purposes ship a tablet with 1GB and it would work fine, but for the price you are paying it should be a requirement, and will surely make for a better user experience. (Windows 7 certainly does scale resources depending on how much you have. I have it installed on a 512M netbook and it only consumes 300MB while idle. My 4GB machine is always sitting closer to 700-1GB, even in 32bit)


RE: Memory
By TMV192 on 10/23/2010 4:20:22 PM , Rating: 1
The problem is that while they have a similar form factor, the iPad and Slate are two very different computers, it's not like your average PC vs Mac comparison this is apples to oranges. The 1GHz A4 is built by Samsung, with a Cortex A8 core designed by Intrinsy based on ARM's spec. It works completely different from the intel Atom, if comparing clock speeds on desktop processors is a bad practice, this is hell of a lot worse. The GPU itself, is better designed for the ARM architecture; if you think a game like Real Racing can run on the Slate, you're hopelessly wrong. But the bottom line is, the Slate has a lot going for it as a business computer who don't care as much for the fun factor. HP themselves will have a real iPad competitor with the webOS PalmPad. As for the Slate, it's just a rehashed UMPC with Windows 7 and usability tweaks


RE: Memory
By ertomas on 10/25/2010 8:07:56 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
it's not like your average PC vs Mac comparison this is apples to oranges


It's actually Apple's to HP's :P


RE: Memory
By rudy on 10/23/2010 2:03:57 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe you would not but others would. Lots of businesses run very customized and advanced exel files. They record information through these. They are willing to pay $2000 for tablets which run all these apps. This will cut the price down and for some that will be good.


...and party in the back?
By MeesterNid on 10/22/2010 2:12:40 PM , Rating: 2
This thing does sound like a mullet.




By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 2:13:21 PM , Rating: 2
On THIS atom processor. D series Atom's (and previous desktop variants such as the 330) do support 64 bit.




KEYBOARD
By RugMuch on 10/22/2010 5:03:32 PM , Rating: 2
Not having a keyboard is like using a chisel. FTShlt!




Welcome back TC1000!
By Byte on 10/24/2010 10:51:54 AM , Rating: 2
truly the specs aren't much better, ugh.




DOA
By jezzza234 on 10/24/2010 4:41:23 PM , Rating: 2
To quote Steve Jobs - "DOA". I really believe this. We've had Windows tablets for years and they've never been popular. So this one packs in more RAM and processor speed than the iPad, well thats simply cos it has to since its running Windows 7, the comparison there is pretty meaningless, you give it what it needs to run well.

More importantly, the touch interface for Windows 7 is dull and not nearly as clever and easy to handle as the iOS. Also, its Windows 7 so no App Store. Ok maybe corporates will find it useful where they wouldn't really be interested in the iPad, but as far as other consumers are concerned, it'll never make it. I'm certain of that.




What a balls article
By psonice on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: What a balls article
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 3:48:26 PM , Rating: 1
I don't really have a problem at all with this article.

Even the best of tech sites will compare any tablet released to the iPad, whether they have the same intended market or not.

Same as everyone will compare any new smartphone to the iPhone.

This is no different than any other tech site.

Only thing I agree with is the omission of WebOS. Comparisons with the iPad are going to happen, but not mentioning that this is not meant to be a consumer device is quite troubling.


RE: What a balls article
By agent2099 on 10/25/2010 2:58:48 AM , Rating: 2
I agree you shouldn't talk so much about specs without mentioning that despite all the deficiencies (on paper) the iPad will still do most things FASTER than the Windows7 tablet because the OS is better suited to the hardware.


I thought they would at least try....
By Tony Swash on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: I thought they would at least try....
By superPC on 10/22/2010 2:53:04 PM , Rating: 3
the ipad didn't have a lot of stuff these are just some example: no bluetooth peripherals, no USB peripherals, no camera, no LAN access (without apps), no video output (out of the box), no additional storage.

while what hp slate don't have: not more than 5 hour battery life, a bit slow for some demanding software.

if you can live with all the stuff the ipad don't have then more power to you. since ipad now can multitask let's see how the battery does when multiple apps open and running in the background. you can say good bye to that 10 hour battery life when you run IM software in the background while streaming movie from hulu in your ipad.

oh FYI ctrl+alt+del button is usefull for a lot of things (since this is windows 7). screen lock, switch user, task manager, and log off.


RE: I thought they would at least try....
By Tony Swash on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: I thought they would at least try....
By superPC on 10/22/2010 9:26:17 PM , Rating: 3
great just ignore everything i just said and ramble on...
the enterprise wouldn't adopt ipad. they're still stuck on windows xp. why? because their software environment won't allow them. that's why microsoft put so much work in making sure legacy software work in all their latest OS. adopting new OS (any OS) is expensive, especially if you have to buy another hardware (like the ipad). enterprise also need all the connectivity they can get. USB, bluetooth, LAN, they need all this and ipad can't give it to them. enterprise have so much proprietary peripherals that run on USB bluetooth or LAN, and as long as apple wouldn't officially support them, it won't get adopted. it's not because the hardware or software, it's because steve job won't allow them.


By Laitainion on 10/23/2010 5:34:19 AM , Rating: 2
It's worse than that, a lot of enterprises (including where I work) still use serial ports for a lot of their peripherals, not so much mouse/keyboard but pretty much everything else (this is specific to where I work).


RE: I thought they would at least try....
By robinthakur on 10/25/2010 5:43:16 AM , Rating: 2
I thought this until my company (a worldwide bank) decided that everything it designed had to work on the iPad as a baseline (i.e. all web content). This happened in the last month because several of the COO's bought iPads and were dismayed that company content didn't look great on it! This was the same way that iPhones, Macbooks got into IT, namely because IT supports Business needs, and if people in the Business prefer to use iPad's to their company laptops or Macbooks/iPhones in place of their company issued devices, this cannot be ignored. Therefore we now have a load of iPad's en route to IT for testing and integration.

I don't blame Apple for their success in this area, I blame MS and their OEM's like Dell, HP etc for offering precisely nothing that can compete with the iPad as far as the users (this refers to real-world users, not spec-obsessed posters on a tech blog website) are concerned and for not listening or following emerging trends. We have shown influential users Windows Tablet PC's in the past but they simply didn't like their styling, heaviness, or the windows touch interface (complete with pens, which they saw as antiquated), so for now they use iPads until there is a compelling alternative, which the HP device is not. The Blackberry device might be, but why is it only coming to the market now when the iPad has been on sale since April?


RE: I thought they would at least try....
By tcjake on 10/25/2010 11:15:43 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe it's because the COO's of the world control YOUR budget in the IT department.

Funny thing is, with all of it's flaws my 1200+ physicians prefer iPhone/iPad devices because they are single threaded and fast. This is how the healthcare IT world is, single threaded and fast. Login times on windows PC's that take more than 7 seconds are "slow". Think about your Dr. in the ICU logging to a PC when you just coded?

My Dr's don't have to "boot" the iPad, they turn it on and they see your labs, wave forms, imagery etc...right now. Not after Mcafee, Adobe, "applying user settings" happens.

This is reality, not a freakin game. Physicians need data to save lives, not 90 seconds of delay everytime they log in.


By Smilin on 10/25/2010 5:07:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Think about your Dr. in the ICU logging to a PC when you just coded


Ok that argument just plain insults the reader. If I code what is he logging into a PC for? What is he going to surf up to WebMD and figure out what to do? Thank God he has an iPad and not 24 years of education. /eyeroll

If I find my Physician storing my data on an iPad, his mobile phone (of any brand) or other equally insecure platform then I'll find a new physician. BTW what healthcare system do you work for? I'm quite serious and I want to know if it's mine.

Right now my doc does his business on a laptop in each room that connects to a virtualized app. The delay in him accessing his information lasts as long as it takes him to provide credentials.


By themaster08 on 10/23/2010 12:05:49 PM , Rating: 4
reader 1 is reincarnated in Tony Swash.

Seriously, dude, you need to calm down a little, take a step back, and see how blinded you've become.

Apple is a company. A company that manufactures and markets consumerable electronic devices. A company that does this to make money, not to benefit society. A company just like any other company.

They're not a religion.


RE: I thought they would at least try....
By acer905 on 10/22/2010 2:53:14 PM , Rating: 2
Do you even realize that this type of device is the standard in the medical world? It has been for years, long before Apple even thought about an iPad. Simply put, this is not for you. It is not a toy for average consumers. It is a productivity device, the successor in a long line of productivity devices.

Here are my predictions:

You will continue to be a troll

This will sell in the field that it was designed to

HP will continue to produce devices for the field that this sells in

Nobody will care about your stupid predictions


RE: I thought they would at least try....
By Tony Swash on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
By acer905 on 10/23/2010 11:32:04 AM , Rating: 3
Lack of any legacy support

Need to recreate the wheel pointlessly

Shiny toy for gimmick loving consumers

When productivity and efficiency are concerned, the sort of change you want is not reasonable, and will not happen. Time is money, using what you have saves time, therefore no sensible business will switch.


By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 2:56:39 PM , Rating: 2
Yawn..

HP has long stated..

WebOS tablets = consumer device

Windows 7 tablets = business device

If you want an HP iPad competitor, you will have to wait for a WebOS tablet.

I don't think they will have a problem selling these devices. The only issue I could see is if you HAVE to buy it bundled with Windows 7, and you can't use your existing Windows licenses that most business's will already have.


By phatboye on 10/22/2010 3:14:23 PM , Rating: 5
obvious troll obviously likes to troll


RE: I thought they would at least try....
By Smilin on 10/22/2010 5:06:49 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
This thing is so bad I thought initially it was a spoof. Particualrly this really cool feature.....

http://www.engadget.com/photos/hp-slate-hands-on/#...

It allows the OEM, SN, PN and others to be hidden but easily accessed. HP has done this on their servers for some time.

quote:
My crappy iPad doesn't even have an Ctrl+Alt+Del button :(


You mean your iPad doesn't have a hardware button to send a non-maskable interrupt to the CPU and hand control to a security process. Meh, you're using an oversized cellphone for an OS that runs everything as root. I wouldn't expect it to be concerned with multiuser security...HIPA legislation is though :P

quote:
Or a stylus :( :(

I know. This device will allow both multitouch and precise selection with a pointing device. A clear weakness of the iPad. Windows 7 also can tell the difference between a pen tip and a hand resting on the screen to hold said pen. I suppose you can still fingerpaint with your iPad but good luck with handwriting recognition.

quote:

This thing will tank.

Doubt it. There is a lot of pent up demand from consumers that want a real computer instead of a cell-phone-sans-phone. Thank the iPad for whetting their appetite I suppose.

quote:

iPad will sell over 25 million in 2011.

I expect it will do very well. They don't have the production to handle 25 though. Once they do they'll need to take it global to reach that number.


By themaster08 on 10/23/2010 12:12:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It allows the OEM, SN, PN and others to be hidden but easily accessed. HP has done this on their servers for some time.
I'm sure Tony is well aware of this considering his experience of IT in the enterprise market.

</sarcasm>

quote:
I expect it will do very well. They don't have the production to handle 25 though. Once they do they'll need to take it global to reach that number.
When other tablets start to saturate the market, Tony will be back with his excuse that market share means nothing.


RE: I thought they would at least try....
By tcjake on 10/25/2010 11:08:26 AM , Rating: 1
If you want to pretend to be in the healthcare IT industry as least spell HIPPA correctly.

Also, who in their right mind would use a iPad/tablet device as a multiuser device?

What physician in the ICU do you know that says here use my device I have nothing else to do after rounds?

Your obviously an IT "support" guy, not a heathcare IT leader. Always roadblocks, never working solutions.


By Smilin on 10/25/2010 11:31:09 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
If you want to pretend to be in the healthcare IT industry as least spell HIPPA correctly.


OH Man that's rich. Did you ever think maybe it was a typo and not me trying to "pretend I'm in the healthcare industry". I mean really, you took a missing letter and jumped waaaaayyyy over there to some conspiracy instead of thinking, "Hm. He had a typo on der intarwebz."

But hey right back at ya. If you're going to be a conspiratorial condescending grammar NAZI at least spell HIPAA right yourself. Douchebag.


iPad killer... NOT
By headbox on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: iPad killer... NOT
By charrytg on 10/22/2010 2:01:02 PM , Rating: 2
Still, enjoy your multipurpose toy, and let others enjoy the slate if they wish to buy it. It's not for everyone, just as is the norm with all tablets.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By headbox on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: iPad killer... NOT
By borismkv on 10/22/2010 7:50:30 PM , Rating: 3
Well, when the iPad is able to integrate seamlessly with Active Directory it will probably work much better as a "Professional" device. After all, AD is the most common user and computer management system on the market. And Apple's response to it is an Open Source pile of crap.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By Alkapwn on 10/22/2010 8:13:01 PM , Rating: 2
@borismkv - I agree totally. Furthermore, there are small programs used in certain professional fields custom designed for specific purposes which never have/will be compiled for Macs.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By acer905 on 10/24/2010 9:56:01 AM , Rating: 2
It's called a Tablet PC. Has been for a decade now, nothing new here.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By weskurtz0081 on 10/22/2010 2:01:37 PM , Rating: 3
If you think an iPad will run anywhere close to the same number of business related apps as a Windows 7 based tablet.... YOU are painfully ignorant.

See... I can do that too!


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By invidious on 10/22/2010 2:03:59 PM , Rating: 5
Businesspeople don't want a tablet OS. They want to be able to use the software their business already uses on a device better suited to mobile needs.

Also sure you can do those things on your iPad but you could do them better on your macbook. And you could do them even better on a PC for half the price. But since your a hippie and not a business person you probably don't care about performance vs price. Which is why you bought a toy to do your "work".


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 2:05:06 PM , Rating: 3
The iPad is nothing but a toy to most people (including myself), sorry to burst your bubble.

Seriously, I can see the benefit of being able to dabble with things such as 3d modelling and 'professional level art', but lets be serious here, you are NOT more productive on an iPad than you would be on any PC.

Heck the two things you just named would be much better on a tablet like this considering the work wacom put into it.

Wacom touch input = better than anything Apple has ever conjured up, even if they are the masters of multitouch.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By headbox on 10/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: iPad killer... NOT
By Spivonious on 10/22/2010 2:12:20 PM , Rating: 5
lol, since when did watching 5-6 movies become "being productive"?


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 2:29:00 PM , Rating: 2
I know, and he calls that productive??

I can go to the moon, slingshot myself around the sun, sending myself back in time, all the while watching a movie, playing angry birds, and proving String Theory. All of which was performed on my Cell phone with only my right hand.. Its more production than ALL!

FYI: I did all of this before breakfast.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By bodar on 10/22/2010 4:48:13 PM , Rating: 2
Well of course you did it before breakfast. You went back in time, cheater. You finished before you even started. Jeez...


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By PAPutzback on 10/22/2010 2:48:28 PM , Rating: 2
At what mountain range would one be, where the 3G was worth a damn.

I'd say an iPad is a toy for the geek, Android devices are a multipurpose tool and W7 is the standard for business.

Do they make a car dock for the iPad? What a pain it must be to use that for Navigation. Hunting Elk, what an R-tard.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By StevoLincolnite on 10/22/2010 4:42:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
At what mountain range would one be, where the 3G was worth a damn.


Funny thing is... At a high altitude it probably would break or simply not work anyway.

PC's have long had Spread Spectrum for this sort of problem, Apple instead just limits the maximum altitude to 10,000 feet. (That would be in a non-pressurized environment.)

Mechanical hard drives would probably fail as well due to needing a cushion of air between the heads and the platter, thus at such an altitude the air gets to thin and the heads will probably hit the platters.

So the end result is, the iPad is limited in where you can take it, you can't sit on top of a mountain and expect it to work, just how you cant sit under the sea and play scrabble on it.
... Generally if a device overheats in the sun, then your not going to want to take it anywhere "Extreme" in my opinion.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 2:19:03 PM , Rating: 2
Please try and validate your ego elsewhere, as nobody cares.

The iPad is a device for consumption for the vast majority of people who have one. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By superPC on 10/22/2010 2:27:50 PM , Rating: 3
guys will you stop feeding the trolls?


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By superPC on 10/22/2010 2:46:05 PM , Rating: 1
let's focus on what each device don't have:

ipad: no bluetooth peripherals, no USB peripherals, no camera, no LAN access (without apps), no video output (out of the box), no additional storage.

HP slate: not more than 5 hour battery life, a bit slow for some demanding software.

if you can live with all the stuff the ipad can't do then more power to you.


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By omnicronx on 10/22/2010 3:25:29 PM , Rating: 2
To be fair you can do a lot of those things with the iPad, just not OOB..

Jailbreaking is your friend :)


RE: iPad killer... NOT
By weskurtz0081 on 10/22/2010 3:31:10 PM , Rating: 3
Oh, I didn't realize you couldn't do all that on a 13.3' notebook with 10 hours battery life (oh, AND running Windows 7). Who's the sheeple?


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