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HP saw more than 28.2% market growth, while Dell, the second overall PC manufacturer, saw -6.9% growth last quarter

Hewlett-Packard extended its lead in PC world market sales in the first quarter, as Dell falls further behind. The first calendar quarter of 2007 saw HP also post record operating profits. According to a report published by IDC, HP's current PC shipment unit share has reached 19.1 percent, 3.9 percentage points over the closest competitor.

"HP is addressing the needs of consumers, small and midsize businesses and enterprise customers with the industry's broadest portfolio of products available through the purchase channels of their choice," said Todd Bradley, executive vice president, HP Personal Systems Group.

Acer, which has jumped past Lenovo to earn the third spot, had impressive growth numbers.  Acer's main key to success was EMEA, which represented around 60% of the company's shipments in the first quarter.

IDC and Gartner reports show that personal computer sales for Dell continued to fall in the first quarter for overall global sales. Dell worldwide shipments fell 6.9 percent since the first quarter of 2006, IDC reports indicate. Overall, the U.S. market has been the biggest problem for Dell -- PC shipments dropped 14.4 even though the overall PC market grew a total of 3.6 percent.

HP's increasing domination can be attributed to several key factors.  One of the main reasons is the company's renewed efforts to launch low cost PCs that can attract consumers who need a low-cost, efficient PC. 

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Lost cost pc?
By aftlizard01 on 4/21/2007 2:21:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
One of the main reasons is the company's renewed efforts to launch lost cost PCs that can attract consumers who need a low-cost, efficient PC.


Pehaps a mistake?




RE: Lost cost pc?
By Kuroyama on 4/21/2007 2:29:48 PM , Rating: 5
Come on, I hate it when people complain about grammar on Dailytech. it's clear that the article meant "launch lost cause PCs", a reference to Dell's bland clunky laptops that even someone looking for a low-cost laptop would most likely avoid.


RE: Lost cost pc?
By aftlizard01 on 4/21/2007 5:50:45 PM , Rating: 2
Hey I could have been rude about it and called it what it was.I decided to ask it in question form because I could have been wrong and it could have been a new selling point or something.


RE: Lost cost pc?
By Kuroyama on 4/21/2007 6:25:18 PM , Rating: 2
I was making a bad joke. Read my response again.


RE: Lost cost pc?
By aftlizard01 on 4/21/2007 6:32:21 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, oops my bad. I totally glossed over the 'lost cause' pc. That was smart, perhaps to smart :-|


RE: Lost cost pc?
By MADAOO7 on 4/22/2007 3:24:47 AM , Rating: 3
you mean, "perhaps too smart.....lol


RE: Lost cost pc?
By MADAOO7 on 4/22/2007 3:25:31 AM , Rating: 2
you mean, "perhaps too smart".....lol


RE: Lost cost pc?
By Axbattler on 4/21/2007 8:20:22 PM , Rating: 2
Is that why they just edited it to 'low cost'?
I see people pointing those mistakes, as contributors to (and improving) DT.. as long as they do so in a civilised manner.


HP...
By daftrok on 4/21/2007 2:36:11 PM , Rating: 2
HP is on a roll right now! First their printers, then their servers, and now their PCs. I'm starting to compare their slim PCs right now. From what I can see, HP's s3000e (AMD) series versus Dell's Dimension C521 (AMD), the Dell's is fifty dollars cheaper, however HP has a more powerful processor (Sempron 3600+ versus Sempron 3400+) and gives you the option to upgrade it up to AMD Athlon(TM) 64 X2 4200+ (dual-core - 2.2GHz) for just 90 dollars more. Though Dell's PCs are slightly cheaper in some cases, they don't have many upgrade options for their lower end PCs.

This is also the case with Dell's Dimension E520, offering a meager Celeron D® Processor 336 (2.80, 533 FSB) and NO upgrade option whereas HP's a6000y series starts with Intel(R) Celeron(R) D 360 (3.46GHz, 533MHz FSB) AND lets you upgrade to Intel(R) Pentium(R) D 925 (3.0GHz, 4MB,800MHz FSB). What is also interesting is that HP starts at 329.99 whereas Dell starts at $459.

Even in the gaming department, after specifications to match both computers as much as possible, we have: -Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor E6400 (2.13GHz)
-2GB DDR2-667MHz dual channel SDRAM (2x1024)
-320GB RAID 0 (2 x 160GB SATA HDDs)
-16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
-19-inch LCD Wide Flat Panel Monitor (Dell's is 19 inch E197FP Analog Flat Panel )
-640MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS, 2 DVI, TV-Out (Dell's is 768MB nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX)
-Sound Blaster Audigy X-Fi, 24-bit Xtreme Fidelity

HP also offers:
FREE UPGRADE! ATSC-NTSC TV tuner w. PVR, FM,remote
15-in-1 memory card reader, 3 USB, 1394, audio

And the price? HP is 1979.99 and Dell's is $2609. Granted Dell offers a more powerful video card, but hardly worth 600 dollars more. HP is becoming very competitive and can seen easily on their customization pages. Its no wonder HP is taking the lead.




RE: HP...
By johnadams on 4/21/2007 2:50:01 PM , Rating: 2
Is HP's continued news of success over Dell in anyway way attributed to the foundation laid by Carly Fiorina?


RE: HP...
By TomZ on 4/21/2007 3:02:17 PM , Rating: 5
More likely because of her departure.


RE: HP...
By EndPCNoise on 4/21/2007 6:14:02 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone have the feeling this guy might be an HP salesman?


RE: HP...
By daftrok on 4/21/2007 6:31:22 PM , Rating: 2
Haha, no I'm not. Just bored and I'm supporting what I bought.


RE: HP...
By Samus on 4/22/2007 1:22:05 AM , Rating: 2
Carly did a decent job of OEM contracting and keeping prices down, but everyone hated her because of her practice of outsourcing, crummy employment benifits, and all that legal mumbo jumbo we read about that got the whole company in hot heat with the FTC.


IdeaStorm project
By crystal clear on 4/21/2007 2:49:59 PM , Rating: 2
They refuse to let go the XP-not good news for MS & Vista.

Read this-

Like most computer makers, Dell switched nearly entirely to Vista-based systems following Microsoft's mainstream launch of the operating system in January. However, the company said its customers have been asking for XP as part of its IdeaStorm project, which asks customers to help the company come up with product ideas.

"We heard you loud and clear on bringing the Windows XP option back to our Dell consumer PC offerings," Dell said on its Ideas in Action page. Users get to vote on various suggestions, and the notion of bringing back XP got 10,000 "points," making it among the most popular requests but well below top picks such as adding Linux or OpenOffice.org to its PCs.

http://news.com.com/2100-1046_3-6177619.html?part=...




RE: IdeaStorm project
By glenn8 on 4/21/2007 5:54:02 PM , Rating: 3
How is it not good news for MS when they own XP? They'll still make money I'm sure. Also not everyone wants Vista now the same way not everyone wanted XP when it launched, but you know it'll eventually dominate the market.


RE: IdeaStorm project
By crystal clear on 4/22/2007 2:51:21 AM , Rating: 1
1)I would never take the buyers for granted-You never know how they respond to a new product.

Example-
Sony is desperately trying to increase its sales for
PS3 only to find PS2 is selling even better.(see D.T. article)Lets not go into the question "why".
(You have guys who bought PS3 for non gaming purposes,
I have a PS3 with Linux loaded as its O.S.)

MS is pushing at all levels to have buyers switch over to Vista ,only to find the buyers prefer XP.

Conclusions-
All the money spent for marketing,advertising,promotions
for what-only to find THE BUYER prefers/buys your earlier
product,whilst you are investing heavily in sales of your latest product.

For every computer with XP sold means one less Vista sold.
Buyers/users dont upgade frequently.Dont take them for granted that they will eventually upgrade to Vista,it could be after 3 yrs who knows.
There are others who simply postpone their purchases,as they
know early buyers/adapter get their fingers burnt.(frustrating times-lack of drivers etc)

2) When XP was launched conditions were different from what is today & the future.I repeat all what you know...

you have-

Macs that are slightly more expensive but give you the freedom to load XP if you want.Dual O.S. in short.

Dell sells you computers loaded with Linux plus others who offer you the same.(worldwide basis)
Big Govt org/private org/Business sector switching to Linux
(these are big buyers).
By the way Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop/Server edition released on April 16/07.(free ofcourse)
Lets not go into that & stick to the topic.

In short-
The choices put forward to the buyer is much more greater
& very competetive.They(sellers)all want your money !

In such an envoirnement Vista has to compete not only with XP but also with Linux & Tiger/leopard & maybe Solaris who knows.

You cannot predict consumer behaviour & their decisions to
buy this instead of that.
Times have changed & will continue to do so-its very hard to predict the end results.


RE: IdeaStorm project
By TomZ on 4/22/2007 5:22:23 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
MS is pushing at all levels to have buyers switch over to Vista ,only to find the buyers prefer XP.

Buyers prefered Win2K and Win98 compared to WinXP when it was first introduced. In fact, you still have some people and companies today with those preferences. Therefore, the fact that not everyone wants Vista right now is not surprising. But the majority do.


RE: IdeaStorm project
By aftlizard01 on 4/21/2007 5:57:56 PM , Rating: 3
HP is growing at a wild rate and doesn't bother with the XP versus Vista debate, you get Vista and that's it. Yet this fact is overlooked while Dell is scratching their collective heads and throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks, and this is somehow an indictment of Vista? Dell's issues began before Vista, giving the consumer the option of what OS to have may be good but it probably isn't going to fix what is ailing them.


RE: IdeaStorm project
By crystal clear on 4/22/2007 6:32:45 AM , Rating: 2
1)In the United States, Dell held on to the No. 1 ranking with 26.8 percent of the market, down from 32.4 percent. HP gained on Dell in the United States, claiming 24.2 percent of the market compared with 20 percent a year ago.

1)Dell last year lost its No. 1 PC market-share ranking for the first time since 2003 as a resurgent HP sold more computers in retail stores. Dell only sells directly to customers via the phone or its Web site.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?typ...


Quality leads to quantity
By zaki on 4/21/2007 6:05:44 PM , Rating: 2
Dell must realize that making cheap ass products wont get too many people excited about their products. They need to invest some good money into their design department, stop using cheap materials, learn a lesson from hp, asus and sony.

The only reason why people buy sony laptops is because of the looks and build quality (not the batteries :) ). Performance wise Dell was leading for a long time because they were skimping on other parts and putting in high end stuff into cheap cases and such. But now that HP has become with its configurations, pricing, and design, I think dell has to upgrade their game.

They dont need to look far for inspiration, their monitors are undeniably better designed than any of their other products. But good doesnt cut it, they'll have to make their computers look more attractive and stop posing themselves as a cheap ass alternative to everything.




RE: Quality leads to quantity
By zaki on 4/21/2007 6:07:19 PM , Rating: 2
*correction* .... HP has become agressive with its ....


RE: Quality leads to quantity
By INeedCache on 4/21/2007 6:11:59 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with most everything you said. Dell has been skating by for years using cheap parts. Their latest batch of new machines has continued the tradition. I do some warranty work for them and I've already replaced a bunch of failed motherboards in desktops and laptops. And those Hi-Val optical drives, please. The one thing I will disagree with you is I don't see the build quality you spoke of with Sony laptops. I think they are decent machines, but way overpriced for their worth.


RE: Quality leads to quantity
By zaki on 4/21/2007 6:17:24 PM , Rating: 3
they are indeed overpriced (no one can contest that) but their designs are much better than most of the other choices, i do agree their actual quality is a bit lacking (know this from experience) but people pay for sony, and they keep making them the same way. at least they are creative with their market, they have what i think is the biggest choice of different laptops, the only thing that sucks is that the configurations are very limited.


RE: Quality leads to quantity
By Talcite on 4/22/2007 1:37:44 AM , Rating: 2
Sony's build quality is NOT superior. I personally have worked with 2 Sony laptops that my grandfather bought. They suck. Firstly, they came loaded full of crap adware and borderline spyware. Secondly, the paint job is coming off one of the laptops. Finally, the Toshiba my grandfather also bought works much better and cost about 1/2 as much as the Sony did. Sony should stick to camcorders or whatever they do. Their LCD monitors aren't exactly quality either.


RE: Quality leads to quantity
By zaki on 4/22/2007 9:20:15 AM , Rating: 2
well the laptop that i've had for the last 4 years has come open on one of the front corners, the button is chipping a little, but this it has taken extensive use. I also prefer toshiba quality to sony, but you are misreading, i said the "DESIGNS" are better, not the materials, as in the set up everything is convenient and doesnt take away from the look of the laptop.

my laptop could easily pass off as a new design, try showing me a toshiba from 4 years ago that still looks like good.


Dell's Past
By jeffbui on 4/22/2007 11:38:57 AM , Rating: 2
I remember when Dell used to mean quality. (Just rip open the case of one of their Pentium II machines and look at the giant heat sink they use to increase cooling) They still might be surviving off of that brand legacy but in reality, quality is and has been out of the window for quite some time now. Their products are mediocre and generate no desire. There isn't even a Dell product that I would want to purchase. Their high end XPS line looks tacky, like some 1337 gamer kid designed it and is overpriced. Now that they cut the coupons, low price isn't even a key factor. Let's not talk about their support either.




RE: Dell's Past
By DLeRium on 4/23/2007 4:25:00 AM , Rating: 2
Dell used to have pretty good quality. Sure IBM always had the lead, but Dell was great. Support was great too. Dell also had a huge lead in their manufacturing strategy. They used "cells" or really just teams to build computers. Instead of the traditional Henry Ford assembly line style that HP and what was then Compaq used. Dell kicked some serious ass. Teams of 2 building computers was far more efficient and better in quality control than an assembly line.

Dell offered customizability, and everything a consumer could want. It pioneered the PC market at the time.

But once all the other competitors saw what Dell did, who couldn't match them? Everyone else started offering customized PCs. Everyone else began to convert away from assembly line. Dell had an efficient supply chain, but anyone can do the same. Once you're there, everyone can offer everything Dell has. At that point, what makes Dell special?

Of course, once everyone realizes that, then sales go down. Then HP is not all so bad because you too can customize your PCs. Dell sales continue to plummet. Then what? You see their coupons cut, more people go WTF? Support gets cut... its a downward spiral. Who knows how they'll reverse it at this point.


Finally...
By FreakyD on 4/21/2007 6:32:29 PM , Rating: 2
It's only expected that Dell would have this happen. HP has just about every possible configuration of PC imaginable while Dell is really lacking in innovation. Laptops are seeing such high growth, yet Dell low-priced laptops are heavy and suffer from flimsy construction. HP has a much broader range of laptops, even a low-end consumer grade as well as a business level tablet. Just recently we saw Dell bring AMD products to their lineup... only after Intel came out with the Core lineup and interest in AMD processors fell. So slow to adjust to consumer wants in an industry that changes quickly.

I think a lot more people have had some Dell quality and support issues lately than HP.




Our way or the highway
By viperpa on 4/21/2007 6:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
It's not surprising that HP is taking the lead with all of Dell's problems and blunders recently. Dell turned into a our way or the highway company. For example, Dell use to give you the option of getting a monitor or not with your PC. Now they only give you that option with the higher end PC's. Also Dell customer support sucks period. Dell's PC's always use to be higher than everyone else. When you think your invincible, you think you can pretty much do what you want.




Dell's lack of innovation
By ATC on 4/21/2007 8:21:21 PM , Rating: 2
I think almost all agree that the PC industry is seeing a huge growth in portables and notebooks while at the same time witnessing mediocre sales in Desktops.

And right now, Dell's notebook line up lacks innovation, quality and other differentiating features that other companies are simply coming in and taking a chunk of their market share in notebooks away from them.

Little things like the aesthetics, features and quality go a long way in selling notebooks. HP, Sony, Toshiba and others are doing it. Dell on the other hand has simply been asleep at the wheel.




DELL DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!
By vze4z7nx on 4/21/07, Rating: -1
RE: DELL DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!
By themadmilkman on 4/21/2007 6:57:42 PM , Rating: 2
So, how much did you just get paid for that post?


RE: DELL DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!
By vze4z7nx on 4/21/07, Rating: 0
RE: DELL DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!
By BucDan on 4/22/2007 10:37:59 PM , Rating: 2
asus.....for the win!!.... they have quality and the cases look alot better than dell and hp...


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