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HP seems to be shying away from Microsoft and hanging out with Google instead

Hewlett-Packard's (HP) CEO said that former partners like Microsoft and Intel have now become its competition, and HP has been buddying up with companies like Google instead.

HP CEO Meg Whitman used to tout the importance of HP's partnership with Microsoft. In fact, she said last year that HP had to "stick with" Windows 8 and that she was "a believer" in the new operating system.

But her tune has changed. Ever since Microsoft starting making its own hardware (the Surface tablet) and recently bought Nokia's devices and services division, HP is shying away from the Windows maker. And Microsoft isn't the only one -- Whitman said Intel is now a partner-gone-competition as well with its cloud computing and computer security solutions for the enterprise.

HP CEO Meg Whitman

"HP’s traditional highly profitable markets face significant disruption," said Whitman "Wintel devices are being challenged by ARM-based devices. ...  We are seeing profound changes in the competitive landscape. ... Current partners like Intel and Microsoft are turning from partners to outright competitors."

According to Whitman, the new game plan is "multiple operating systems, multiple architectures and multiple form factors," adding that HP is "moving quickly to produce the devices that customers want."

HP is in a financial slump when it comes to its PC business, which saw a 20 percent slip in revenue last May. In July, Gartner found that Lenovo passed HP as the top worldwide PC vendor for Q2 2013 with 12,677,265 shipments. HP came in second place with 12,402,887 for the quarter. 

HP is looking for new opportunities to climb back to the top, and partnering with Google has been one strategy. In fact, HP just announced its new Chromebook 11 yesterday, which is a $279 laptop as part of Google's Chromebook series. 

Source: Business Insider



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A good plan but...
By retrospooty on 10/10/2013 4:30:07 PM , Rating: 4
According to Whitman, the new game plan is "multiple operating systems, multiple architectures and multiple form factors,"

THat is a great plan, I am all for it. HP's problem is that they cant do it with 1/2 assed products. They need to make them good, non-restrictive and priced right. Typically, HP will make something 1/2 assed with limitations put in place and then price it like a premium product.




RE: A good plan but...
By augiem on 10/10/2013 7:48:34 PM , Rating: 2
All of HP's consumer products for the last 1.5 decades have been half a**ed. I don't see this ever changing.

I'll bet you anything the big slump in HP's PC sales is partly from lost confidence in the aftermath of Apotheker's brilliant bungle(s).

HP needs to hurry up and die.


RE: A good plan but...
By Samus on 10/11/2013 2:17:59 AM , Rating: 2
Why don't they resurrect webOS or at least make an Android phone with a webOS skin/launcher if they want to be a competitor to their 'enemies'?

I just think its such a joke when Dell, Lenovo, Apple and practically every single one of HP's competitors in the PC market make phones, when HP doesn't.

What the hell kind of vision is that? Ignoring mobile these days is like owning an ice cream truck and never cruising around the playlot.


RE: A good plan but...
By mxnerd on 10/12/2013 10:52:28 PM , Rating: 3
No one cares about WebOS.

We already have Windows Phone/iOS/Android for mobile market. and Windows Phone is a distant 3rd.

If Nokia or BlackBerry can't survive, why do you think another OS will save HP?


RE: A good plan but...
By Argon18 on 10/11/2013 11:31:03 AM , Rating: 3
HP's consumer products are usually pretty crap, for a variety of reasons.

They do have a robust enterprise portfolio though, with several in-house OS's to choose from, HP-UX, OpenVMS, and MPE/ix.

They killed their only two in-house CPU's though, the DEC Alpha, and the PA-RISC. Both of which were amazing products. DEC Alpha being fully 64 bit since its inception in the early 90's, and running at 500 Mhz when the best from intel was 200 Mhz. PA-RISC was notable for its per-clock-performance. PA-RISC at 442 Mhz was beating 1Ghz+ chips from other vendors. But as always, HP F'ed it up, killing both in favor of the Itanium. Now HP is the sole Itanium vendor, everyone else has abandoned it.


RE: A good plan but...
By name99 on 10/11/2013 11:43:51 AM , Rating: 2
Steve Jobs said (to me personally :-), along with a few thousand other people, at the 1997 WWDC)
"People think focus means saying yes to the thing you've got to focus on. But that's not what it means at all. It means saying no to the hundred other good ideas that there are. You have to pick carefully. I'm actually as proud of the things we haven't done as the things I have done. Innovation is saying no to 1,000 things"

Now Meg says the future is "multiple operating systems, multiple architectures and multiple form factors,"
Good luck with that plan --- but I'd bet on Steve's philosophy over Meg's.

It's precisely in this sort of situation --- "beleaguered company" struggling for relevance --- that we see that what Jobs made look easy isn't quite so obvious to other CEOs.


RE: A good plan but...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2013 11:35:27 AM , Rating: 1
Its not a straight comparison...Dont forget, for as much money as Steve's philosophy made Apple in the past decade, it nearly ended Apple in the previous decade. The difference being great product decisions. Like them or not, Apple has made some great product decisions in the past decade, making many products that alot of people want... HP is the exact opposite. It's not about focusing on one product or plan, its about making good products that people want. If Apple made more products, like larger screen iPhones with more features people would want them. If HP made less products , still no-one would want them. HP is stuck in the 1990's, just like Palm and RIMM were. They need to MASSIVELY speed up development time and fire every single person in charge in their various product development areas and start over because none of them is worth shit.


RE: A good plan but...
By ResStellarum on 10/13/2013 11:42:59 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Now Meg says the future is "multiple operating systems, multiple architectures and multiple form factors," Good luck with that plan --- but I'd bet on Steve's philosophy over Meg's.


Too be fair, I don't think that would work for any other company except Apple. HP couldn't offer its enterprise users or regular consumers what they want if it only made a narrow set of products.


Meg
By ClownPuncher on 10/10/2013 3:15:39 PM , Rating: 5
Shut up, Meg.




RE: Meg
By retrospooty on 10/10/2013 3:25:10 PM , Rating: 3
LOL... Perfect!


RE: Meg
By Mitch101 on 10/10/2013 4:39:09 PM , Rating: 2
6 for the family guy reference that fits this perfectly.


RE: Meg
By Motoman on 10/10/2013 8:42:27 PM , Rating: 2
[stands and salutes]


RE: Meg
By bah12 on 10/11/2013 1:55:32 PM , Rating: 2
Awesome!


Painted into a corner.
By drycrust3 on 10/10/2013 4:20:04 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Current partners like Intel and Microsoft are turning from partners to outright competitors.

My recollection is HP decided Tablets were an anathema, that it was beneath HP's dignity to make them. Microsoft, having spent billions on making a tablet operating system were then left with little option but to make their own tablet.




Aaaannnddd...
By Belegost on 10/11/2013 2:45:27 AM , Rating: 3
In other news, my neighbor's 15 year old son, (The Great Fletcherini) has announced that David Copperfield and Cris Angel are his competitors.

Seriously, HP has been amateur hour for years now. They have floundered around like a fish on the sidewalk, talking up lots of big plans and following through on exactly jack and sh!t. And Jack went home long ago.

At this point MS and Intel may have forgotten who HP even is.




Meanwhile ...
By InsGadget on 10/10/2013 7:50:35 PM , Rating: 2
Dell is coming out with some compelling new Windows 8.1 tablets, which should do pretty well. One company bitches and goes the cheap route, the other bucks up and engineers a competitive product that people will actually want. Hummmmmm ...




hurray for Google
By kleinma on 10/10/13, Rating: -1
RE: hurray for Google
By retrospooty on 10/10/2013 3:26:25 PM , Rating: 2
Dont hold back, let it all hang out man, tell us how you feel.


RE: hurray for Google
By kleinma on 10/10/2013 3:33:46 PM , Rating: 2
Did I mention that HP makes crap?


RE: hurray for Google
By ClownPuncher on 10/10/2013 3:49:01 PM , Rating: 3
Chromebooks are crap regardless of manufacturer, and the ChromeOS is also crap.


RE: hurray for Google
By synapse46 on 10/10/2013 3:53:05 PM , Rating: 2
It does seem to serve atleast one purpose, it gives OEMs like HP something to cling to.


RE: hurray for Google
By retrospooty on 10/10/2013 3:54:09 PM , Rating: 2
OK, but if HP made it then it's a full step crappier.


RE: hurray for Google
By puter_geek_01 on 10/10/2013 4:42:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
OK, but if HP made it then it's a full step crappier.


So you're saying it has an extra creamy filling of crap?


RE: hurray for Google
By GulWestfale on 10/10/2013 5:01:22 PM , Rating: 2
well, i for one have always enjoyed HP sauce on my steak. goes well with fries, too. sucks on apples, though.


RE: hurray for Google
By ClownPuncher on 10/10/2013 6:03:07 PM , Rating: 2
Use Sriracha on apples. Oddly good.


RE: hurray for Google
By GulWestfale on 10/10/2013 7:26:52 PM , Rating: 2
i once confused sriracha with ketchup. not good. buuuut, BBQ sauce on fries instead of mayo is actually quite good, and you save a ton of calories.


RE: hurray for Google
By augiem on 10/10/2013 7:45:13 PM , Rating: 2
Who eats mayo on fries?? Yuck.
BBQ > Ketchup, but oddly ketchup doesn't have a whole lot of salt per serving. I started using it more often trying to cut down on salt. I'm not sure if it has MSG though.

Trader Joe's Organic ketchup. If "spices" means MSG, does "organic spices" mean organic MSG? Must be good for ya!


RE: hurray for Google
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/10/2013 9:03:19 PM , Rating: 2
Ketchup and mayo with my fries please, mmmmm!


RE: hurray for Google
By GulWestfale on 10/10/2013 10:06:42 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_5_5?url=sea...

from my homeland... the only proper way to eat fries&grilled sausages.


RE: hurray for Google
By augiem on 10/11/2013 12:29:41 AM , Rating: 2
Looks good! I would try it were it not so expensive for a sauce! O_o


RE: hurray for Google
By ClownPuncher on 10/11/2013 11:06:10 AM , Rating: 2
Most regular ketchup has a lot of corn syrup in it. Use Sriracha for everything.


RE: hurray for Google
By SpartanJet on 10/10/2013 9:58:25 PM , Rating: 2
I've never kept a HP product (other than my crappy $99 HP touchpad) but Ive bought a bunch of HP laptops that all had QC issues and were promptly returned. Perfect couple for Google and their """"FREE"""" OS.


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