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HIS's budget dual-link DVI card

HIS PCIe/AGP hybrid concept

The AGP bridge chip

Dual dual-link DVI and HDMI
x1 PCIe, HDMI and AGP/PCIe hybrids

Hightech Information Systems, also known as HIS, had a couple of interesting new products at its Computex suite this year. The first of three new products is a new graphics card based on the ATI X1300 Pro GPU. It features 512MB of HyperMemory which in reality is only 256MB of physical memory -- the other 256MB are utilized from the system memory. While the specifications of the X1300 Pro card are nothing special, it sports a PCI Express x1 interface with one dual-link DVI connector. If priced similarly to other X1300 Pro based cards, expect the dual-link DVI equipped X1300 Pro to cost south of $100. Board manufacturers only offered X1600 based cards as the lowest model with dual-link DVI, with the HIS X1300 Pro HIS may have a product for an untapped market for users that want a 30” display but don't care about 3D performance.

Users that want an AGP graphics upgrade but fear incompatibility when building a new PCI Express based system may be interested in another new HIS product. The new HIS X1600 Pro Dual DVI Dual Interface card offers compatibility with PCI Express and AGP equipped systems. The ATI Rialto bridge chip provides AGP compatibility while a couple of internal switches allow the switching between PCI Express and AGP interfaces. Samples shown at the show required a few jumpers changed to switch between PCI Express and AGP but HIS stated shipping models will have an auto switching system. Aside from the dual interfaces the X1600 Pro based card has the usual 500MHz core clock and 800MHz DDR2 memory with a 128-bit interface. CrossFire compatibility is retained in PCI Express mode while a single dual-link DVI port is added into the mix.

Home theater PC aficionados will be interested in the last of three new HIS products. Packing support for dual dual-link DVI, HDMI, component video, S-Video, and composite video outputs the X1600 based card has the output capabilities of a perfect HTPC graphics card. The low profile form factor makes it ideal for low profile HTPC cases. Because of the low profile size and video outputs it occupies two expansion slots. There is one minor detail with the video output capabilities though -- users have to pick between having dual DVI outputs or one DVI and one HDMI since the rightmost DVI and HDMI output are shared.

HIS employees stated the card will be HDCP compliant and have audio output capabilities. The card will have a S/PDIF audio pass-through for those that prefer to use an external sound card. It is unknown which audio codec will be used, though it wouldn’t be surprising to see the same Sigmatel audio codec used in the Sony VAIO XL2 Media Center. Typical X1600 features such as AVIVO with H.264 hardware acceleration is supported. 

Pricing and availability information is unknown at the time.

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PCI-E x1
By bighairycamel on 6/8/2006 7:13:16 AM , Rating: 2
From what I have seen (and I haven't done much research) this is the world's first PCI-E x1 ANYTHING.

RE: PCI-E x1
By bighairycamel on 6/8/2006 7:14:43 AM , Rating: 2
Except I didnt bother to read LoogieXX's post above me.

RE: PCI-E x1
By LoogieXX on 6/8/2006 7:45:55 AM , Rating: 2
I was just about to flame you and then I read your second post :)....

Words to the wise... read then flame. !

By hwhacker on 6/8/2006 7:52:23 AM , Rating: 2
While the concepts are all right and good, and I especially think the 1x card is interesting (if not slightly pointless other than more displays considering any pci-e board will have a full 16x slot for an adapter), I wonder why nobody went beyond concept with the dual agp/pci-e cards long ago, when transition was most prevalent, and on a decent-level card (XL-type or newer x1700's)...Not ATi's terrible (x700-x1600) mid-range. AGP is/was never existant on either new AMD/Intel platform, it's essentially dead. I can't see many who would grab an x1600 at this point in time...It'd serve little use, as the x1600 is pretty crappy to begin with, and would be worse when you'd want to upgrade If used just for display adapter, then why not use intergrated graphics?

As for the HDMI card, when are they actually going to put this on a card anyone wants to buy? Why so much attention to the x1600 noone wants? Am I only one that sees it that way? Either add it in the later x1700 parts, or decent current parts...Or like I said, if just for a display adapter, why not an x1300. The x1600 just doesn't make any sense to me other than the fact it's slightly higher-end than the x1300 and still incredibley cheap.

RE: x1600....bleh
By LoogieXX on 6/8/2006 7:57:57 AM , Rating: 2
I like the idea of a 1x card for Physics.. getting a 1300/1600 for that bit. And leaving my precious 16x slot for the regular graphics

RE: x1600....bleh
By OvErHeAtInG on 6/8/2006 12:26:25 PM , Rating: 2
other than the fact it's slightly higher-end than the x1300 and still incredibley cheap.

Umm... exactly. X1600 (Pro in particular) does play games just fine. It's also great for an HTPC setup since it decodes H.264 in hardware, and provides DVD playback quality on par with a high-end DVD player. Remind me why no-one cares again?

RE: PCI-E x1
By deeznuts on 6/8/2006 12:38:23 PM , Rating: 2
There is also a tv tuner card that is pcie 1x.

RE: PCI-E x1
By Myrandex on 6/8/2006 11:27:36 AM , Rating: 2
Oh yea don't mention the PCIE 1x TV Tuner that I have had for a couple of months now based off of ATI's Theater 550 Pro chipset... Then also a quick search has PCIE SATA cards and I believe ethernet cards are available too.

RE: PCI-E x1
By deeznuts on 6/8/2006 12:38:48 PM , Rating: 2
Damn, didn't scroll down far enough lol.

RE: PCI-E x1
By Saist on 6/8/2006 2:19:49 PM , Rating: 2
Problem is, PCIe ethernet cards aren't cheap. For example, Zonet's PCI gigabit network adapter runs about $13 from Newegg:

A Dlink PCIe ethernet gigabit adapter runs $91 from Newegg :

That's probably why you don't see very many PCIe devices around. They are horribly out of the price-range of the standard PCI devices they were supposed to replace.

First PCIe1x card ?.. NOT !
By LoogieXX on 6/8/2006 5:22:45 AM , Rating: 3
Matrox has had one on the market for at least 6 months

By Lonearchon on 6/8/2006 7:24:52 AM , Rating: 2
I have also seen an Nivida Quadro with an 1x interface it was on newegg a while a good priced at around 500 i haven't seen it there recently

RE: First PCIe1x card ?.. NOT !
By mlittl3 on 6/8/2006 1:30:28 PM , Rating: 2
I just sent the following email to Anh. I hope he reads it and changes the story. Kind of presumptious to assume that the first PCIe 1x card he sees must be the first.

Hi Anh,

It would be nice if you would change your caption under the first photo in this article. Currently it reads "The world's first x1 PCIe video card". We need to give credit where credit is due. Matrox came up with a 1x PCIe video card quite some time ago.

Just because you don't know about a product doesn't mean it doesn't exist and it is very important to not misinform readers. Here is a link to story about the card posted on 7/14/05.

I hope that clears things up.

Mark Little

RE: First PCIe1x card ?.. NOT !
By Anh Huynh on 6/8/2006 2:38:35 PM , Rating: 3
I just noticed the image captions, thanks.

It is a budget priced dual-link DVI capable graphics card though

RE: First PCIe1x card ?.. NOT !
By mlittl3 on 6/8/2006 4:14:10 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks, Anh. You are the greatest!

By Acanthus on 6/8/2006 1:47:29 PM , Rating: 2
Doesnt anyone else think that PCI-e 1x on a hypermemory card that uses system memory for graphics memory is a joke?

Its the one case where you need all the bandwidth you can get...

By beemercer on 6/8/2006 3:25:22 PM , Rating: 3
mmmm.... bottleneck

By mechwarrior1989 on 6/8/2006 10:00:28 PM , Rating: 2
Well it's already got 256mb of onboard memory so it's probalby never going to have to utilize the hypermemory portion of the card considering it's a x1300 and all. I guess they're just leaving that option open.

By beemercer on 6/11/2006 2:24:23 AM , Rating: 3
Good point, what games even use 512mb of memory

By Athlex on 6/8/2006 5:03:48 AM , Rating: 2
Full marks for creativity. The AGP/PCI-E graphics card is really cool- it'd be great for hardware troubleshooting. Reminds me a little of Asus' PhysX concept card from a while back which had PCI-E x1 and PCI connectors.

RE: Nice!
By phaxmohdem on 6/8/2006 7:38:21 AM , Rating: 2
Now if they could only incorporate that flexible technology into an x1900XT/XTX card... Some users such as myself are stuck with higher end AGP cards like an x800XL and would love that upgrade path... If they can AGP a x1600 GPU, why not a x1900??

RE: Nice!
By Trisped on 6/8/2006 3:01:08 PM , Rating: 2
x1900 is a little to big to do that with. Besides, if you are staying with AGP you would be better off with the 1600 or waiting for the 1700 which should have an AGP option. (according to the 2006 road map posted yesterday)

RE: Nice!
By rupaniii on 6/8/2006 8:29:40 AM , Rating: 2
Brings me back to the old Verite' based cards with PCI and that new fangled AGP 1x interface :)

By piroroadkill on 6/8/2006 5:13:49 AM , Rating: 2
"users that want a 30” display but could care less about 3D performance."

The phrase is NOT "could care less" it is "couldn't" or "could not" "care less".

RE: hurr
By dug777 on 6/8/06, Rating: -1
RE: hurr
By dug777 on 6/8/06, Rating: -1
RE: hurr
By rupaniii on 6/8/2006 8:31:07 AM , Rating: 2
there's also 'Couldn't care flying monkey balls about it...' a lesser known variation :).

RE: hurr
By shortylickens on 6/8/2006 8:33:30 AM , Rating: 3
Why all the hate and disconent?
Rats Ass is still perfectly acceptable.

RE: hurr
By phydeux on 6/9/2006 6:23:17 PM , Rating: 2
Well, then there's also, don't give a flying.... ooh never mind.

X1600 Pro seems a waste
By aka1nas on 6/8/2006 7:32:31 PM , Rating: 2
It doesn't make much sense to have a AGP/PCI-E hybrid for that card as they already sell an AGP version of the X1600 Pro. If you are upgrading an existing AGP system, you would just get the AGP version, if you wanted to migrate to PCI-E later after buying this card, you would probably want a card that has better performance or you would just buy the PCI-E version and a PCI-E board at the same time.

RE: X1600 Pro seems a waste
By TheStu on 6/8/2006 11:53:43 PM , Rating: 2
It doesn't entirely not make sense... If for instance, you were upgrading your system in stages... or just got a major system upgrade not too long ago but only have AGP. I mean, if someone got a 939 chip and mobo on the cheap and it has AGP, but they intend to upgrade it a little down the line to get more ports or something, then this would be ideal.

Good Stuff
By stncttr908 on 6/8/2006 8:39:54 AM , Rating: 2
Innovation is always nice, especially if it has practical uses.

By r35553h on 6/8/2006 11:36:44 AM , Rating: 2
Yay!! No more messing around with PCIe x8 for you guys because now you have a legitimate video card to play around with!

x1800 GTO version??
By Dfere on 6/9/2006 10:51:41 AM , Rating: 2
I just saw this on pricegrabber for $126. is this a joke? Is this incredibly crippled...??? Anyone?

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