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HDD shortage to be felt in early 2012
HDD shortage could affect Facebook and Google

The catastrophic flooding in Thailand has lead to some high tech firms in the U.S. warning that production of critical components for computers and other technology such as hard drives (HDD) will be reduced. For now, the industry hasn't really felt the pinch of the HDD shortage resulting from closed factories in Thailand.
 
It might seem like the only firms that will be hard hit in the tech sector by the flooding will be HDD makers like Seagate, Western Digital, and computer manufacturers that need the HDDs for data storage. Several other industries will be hard hit though.
 
The New York Times points out that any industry where storage is important to growth will be affected. That includes massively popular websites Facebook and Google.
 
To grow, online properties like Facebook and Google need a tremendous amount of storage space. Companies that run cloud storage services like Apple and Microsoft could be affected as well.
 
Gartner research VP John Monroe said, "You really can’t grow and expand the Internet without the expansion of storage hard drives. There are an awful a lot of ramifying impacts that are being incompletely considered here."
 
The expectation is that 50 million fewer HDDs than normal will ship over the next two quarters. Analysts believe that consumers won't feel the strain of the shortage until 2012.
 
Monroe added, "By the first quarter of next year, all worldwide inventories of hard drives will be sucked dry. This is a crisis of escalating dimension for many I.T. revenue streams."
 
Analysts also say that to keep the price of computers consistent PC makers will have to secure discounts for other components to offset the increased cost of storage. Things like graphics chips and DRAM will have to get cheaper.
 
There are HDD facilities in other countries like China, Malaysia and others, but many of them are operating at 90-98% capacity already.

Source: NYT



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Affect vs Effect
By BioHazardous on 11/7/2011 2:09:09 PM , Rating: 5
When in doubt, use both apparently.

The title should be 'affect' btw. You got it right in the article itself though...




RE: Affect vs Effect
By magreen on 11/7/2011 2:35:26 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, they should effect change around here.


RE: Affect vs Effect
By Paj on 11/8/2011 7:59:16 AM , Rating: 2
... although these posts will probably have no effect.


SSD's?
By Spuke on 11/7/2011 1:47:05 PM , Rating: 2
Are there any SSD's manufactured outside Taiwan?




RE: SSD's?
By Flunk on 11/7/2011 2:53:11 PM , Rating: 5
Yes, but even if there weren't the Flooding is in Thailand .


Nice
By Church of Dirac on 11/7/2011 2:09:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Analysts also say that to keep the price of computers consistent PC makers will have to secure discounts for other components to offset the increased cost of storage. Things like graphics chips and DRAM will have to get cheaper.


I hope RAM and graphics cards get cheaper, but it's just wishful thinking. Prices of computers will just get jacked up to compensate for the increased prices of hard drives. On the other hand, we might see widespread use of small SSDs in low end computers. 32-64GB would be sufficient for most users (not enthusiasts obviously). Then again, this might be another push towards the end of the PC and towards more tablets.




RE: Nice
By dark matter on 11/8/2011 7:38:49 AM , Rating: 4
32Gb isn't large enough at all for anything like Windows 7.

You're looking at 128Gb Minimum really if that is the only drive.


More than hard drives
By Sivar on 11/7/2011 6:14:33 PM , Rating: 2
We've been unable to even estimate the damage to our submerged clean room facility. We do little for the hard drive industry, but 98% of smart phones in the world use at least one chip of ours, and most of our implanted medical electronics in the U.S., infrared optics used by the military, automotive, and aviation control systems will be affected (effected?).




RE: More than hard drives
By titanmiller on 11/8/2011 5:55:50 PM , Rating: 2
Affected. Is it really that hard?


huh
By sprockkets on 11/7/2011 7:27:03 PM , Rating: 2
Well, that explains why the prices of a 500GB WD Black Notebook HD went from $70 to a whopping $130 in the past couple of weeks on newegg.




RE: huh
By StevoLincolnite on 11/7/2011 8:22:17 PM , Rating: 2
I was watching the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb drives. They were around $55 here in Australia. Now they are at over $140.
The 500gb model was $39 and now has climbed to over $110.

It's craaaaaap! I like my fast, large and cheap storage. D:


Time for SSD.
By quiksilvr on 11/7/2011 1:46:55 PM , Rating: 2
This multi-billion dollar corporations need to invest in enterprise SSDs. This will decrease the costs of SSD significantly and we can finally begin to phase out mechanical storage.




RE: Time for SSD.
By Shig on 11/7/2011 2:25:44 PM , Rating: 1
I agree about SSD's, but it's really the time for innovation to blossom. These tech companies have some of the smartest engineers in the world and when resources start declining some really cool new ideas will come up, at every level of the data center.


It won't take that long...
By rttrek on 11/7/2011 6:28:26 PM , Rating: 2
I priced some WD Caviar Black 2TB and Hitachi 3TB drives last week. In a few days they went up $40 and $100 respectively! Now they're both hard to find in stock.




Someone's clueless
By dgingerich on 11/7/2011 6:36:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Analysts believe that consumers won't feel the strain of the shortage until 2012.


Drives have already gone up significantly, almost double for some capacities, and these guys are saying we won't feel it until 2012? We're already feeling it. I had plans that are totally trashed now. I'll live with my 750's for a while longer. I'm sure it's going to get worse. I just hope it's not much worse.




Simple Solution
By MWink on 11/8/2011 3:51:17 AM , Rating: 2
There's a really simple solution that should keep Google, Facebook, etc. from running out of storage anytime soon. They could just delete some of the data they've mined from their users!

Also I've just started to realize how out of date most banner ads are. I've been seeing plenty of banner ads advertising hard drives for nice low prices but if you click on them, the drive is actually 2-3 times the price in the ad.




Affect != Effect
By mckirkus on 11/7/2011 2:29:23 PM , Rating: 1
"HDD Shortage Could Effect Cloud"

Crap like this is why you're getting evicted from Anandtech.




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