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Universal's American Gangster to be next big HD DVD exclusive
HD DVD still believes that there is still much territory to be claimed

Even with the tide apparently shifting in Blu-ray Disc’s favor, the HD DVD camp isn’t about to relent in the on-going high-definition format war. HD DVD still commands a significant portion of exclusive content and the most affordable hardware, giving the format a fighting chance – and nobody believes in HD DVD more than Universal Studios executive vice president Ken Graffeo, who also serves as the co-president of the HD DVD Promotional Group.

The HD DVD Group was rather mum on Warner’s surprise announcement right before CES to go Blu-ray Disc exclusive and cancelled its Sunday press conference. Graffeo, speaking to BetaNews, explains, “We heard about the whole move when everyone else did – when a lot of us were on planes flying to CES in Las Vegas ... If we had our press event on Monday, it would have been different, but because it was right there on Sunday and we heard Friday afternoon we couldn't even get to everybody ... The entire flow of the presentation would have had to been changed. When we found out at the last minute, we had to regroup and say ‘Toshiba, what are you doing?’ and we didn't have any answers.”

With HD DVD losing movie releases from Warner Bros. starting June, the HD DVD landscape could change drastically – something that the Promotional Group doesn’t yet have an answer for. “To be very honest with you, we have not addressed that yet,” Graffeo admitted. “Warner is still releasing HD DVD titles up until May. Warner has always been in two formats, and prior to Paramount's switch, they had been in two formats, so now that Warner is exclusive... we just haven't addressed it yet.”

One of the first rumors from Daily Variety to hit following Warner’s move was that Universal and Paramount were both poised to make the switch to Blu-ray Disc, but Graffeo refutes such reports. “I want to say that none of those rumors were substantiated. Nobody ever talked to us. I know nobody talked to Paramount ... This is business as usual for us and there are no plans to make any changes.”

One part of HD DVD’s new strategy is on lower prices and selling the hardware’s ability to upscale regular DVD movies. Graffeo explained the logic behind the new push, “Consumers right now are buying upconverting players – they are outselling the next-gen players combined by 10 to 1 every month. They are affordable because they are under $200 – the average price is $85 – and consumers want to see their movies better. So pricing is very important.”

As part of Toshiba’s new promotional plan, HD DVD hardware across the board dropped in price. Introduced on January 13, the price of the entry-model HD-A3 is $149.99, the HD-A30, with 1080p output, $199.99, and the high-end HD-A35, $299.99. Graffeo, along with the entire HD DVD Group, hopes that the entry-level HD-A3 will entice a whole new group of consumers.

“We saw that on DVD: as soon as price point went under $200 and as soon as it started getting close to $100 players really started taking off because you're hitting very consumer-friendly prices,” he said. “If you want to hit the mass market, you have to be consumer-friendly in price. If you want to be a niche electronic, you're going to be high priced.”

It is the HD DVD Promotional Group’s belief and hope that sales of its players and software will grow exponentially as the mainstream consumer experiences high-definition movies. “1 million units starts word of mouth – people get exposed, people see it. When you're dealing with 200,000, you're at the early adopters and that's not really going to spread.”

Even with the latest sales numbers leaning in Blu-ray Disc’s favor, the overall high-definition market is still insignificant compared to standard DVD sales. According to Graffeo, 35 percent of households have HDTVs, but only 12 percent receive HD programming, and an even smaller percentage have a high-definition movie player. For this reason, Graffeo feels that HD DVD still has a lot of potential.

The Group most recently announced that it has sold over 750,000 HD DVD players total just after Thanksgiving shopping week. With holiday sales added, current day numbers could be near 1 million, giving Graffeo a reason to expect a spike in HD DVD uptake.

“That's why HDTVs finally started taking off, because consumers walked into their neighbors' houses and said ‘Look at that flat thing on the wall,’ that's great. You saw in November and December, everyone was aggressive with pricing. You could see how consumers are willing to buy HD movies when you get to an affordable price,” he said. “Most people are very happy with their DVD, but when they see a 1080p movie, it blows them away.”



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Dropping the prices won't help.
By reader1 on 1/25/2008 5:35:38 PM , Rating: 5
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We saw that on DVD: as soon as price point went under $200 and as soon as it started getting close to $100 players really started taking off because you're hitting very consumer-friendly prices


This situation is very different. Those DVD players played all movies but studio exclusivity forces people to buy two players or hybrids that are twice as expensive. Also, DVD was never in danger of being discontinued while HD-DVD is. Those two things make the low prices irrelevant.




RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By 9nails on 1/26/2008 1:04:12 AM , Rating: 5
Well said. Not to mention that DVD's major competitor was the analog VHS tape deck with inferior quality and longevity issues. When DVD's hit $100, the first thing I heard from many people was "Look, I don't have to rewind!" Many people got a boon when they rented a video and didn't have to first rewind the tape to watch it. But soon after, the pizza stuck to DVD's wore off the honeymoon. But the DVD had many other strengths and shortly after people realized those strengths and mass adoption ensued.

I'm not yet taking side, but I hear it from many that quality upsampling DVD player can camouflage the differences between DVD and HD DVD. That doesn't bode well for High Def when superior image is the format's major improvement over it's previous gen competition.

Blu-Ray is going to win simply because of the PS3's inclusion of the drive. If I were in the HD camp, I'd knock down Microsoft's door to get a HD drive into every Xbox 360 for little to no cost just to off-set this fact.


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By djdjohnson on 1/26/2008 2:58:48 AM , Rating: 2
In the end, though, game consoles don't make up a large percentage of all available movie players. Once the price of movie players is low (as HD-DVDs are starting to get now) is when the mass market starts to consider owning one. The number of people who watch movies far exceeds the number of people who play video games.

HD-DVD/Blu-ray are both in a tough spot, though, because a decent upscaling DVD player image is pretty good, and Toshiba/Sony are going to have a tough sell to convince consumers to replace their DVD players with something that is only mildly better in their minds. Especially when any content purchased for those players is considerably more expensive and won't work on the players they already have.

The transition to HD from SD discs is, for all intents and purposes (because of consumer perception), evolutionary, where VHS to DVD was revolutionary. I don't envy either the position that either HD-DVD/Blu-ray are both in. I could maybe see people buying HD-DVD over an upscaling DVD player if the price difference is small even if the amount of available content isn't large (and this might be the only way that HD-DVD could be saved at this point), but double/triple/quadruple the price is a tough blue pill to swallow.


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By JoshuaBuss on 1/26/08, Rating: 0
By JoshuaBuss on 1/26/2008 12:20:38 PM , Rating: 1
I noticed I was rated down.. remember we're comparing this based on people who buy units to watch movies rented or bought at home.. that's a different statistic from people who 'see movies' in general..


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By Oroka on 1/26/08, Rating: 0
RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By gramboh on 1/26/2008 1:08:56 PM , Rating: 3
Upscaling is not even close to the same quality as HD on a decent TV. The problem is, if most HD sets out there are uncalibrated 720p entry level LCD's, the difference will not be as apparent.


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By blaster5k on 1/27/2008 11:39:08 AM , Rating: 3
Very true. I've found that upscaling looks closer to HD on 720p displays. On 1080p sets, it's obvious that the picture is blurry -- especially on movies filmed in aspect ratios that fill up the whole screen.

Anyone with a decent, calibrated set who claims that upscaled DVDs look like HD probably hasn't seen HD content to compare with. Either that, or they're watching from so far away that they might as well have an SD TV.


By robinthakur on 1/28/2008 6:14:33 AM , Rating: 2
I've got a 40" Samsung latest LCD set and watching blu Ray from my seating position running in 1080p/24 is actually hardly different from watching the equiavlent dvd from the same position upscaled. I think that If you were looking a big screen you might see the difference better but on 40" at about 5ft away, little to no difference I can see...Mayb e I'm going blind :(


By wallijonn on 1/29/2008 12:28:01 PM , Rating: 2
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Anyone with a decent, calibrated set who claims that upscaled DVDs look like HD probably hasn't seen HD content to compare with.


It depends on the up-converting player and the source movie. In the case of "The Chronicles of Riddick" the difference is subtle (usually greater sharpness, and in dark scenes there is no "molting") when watching through my Oppo 981HD. If one watches the last Star Wars movie (Episode III) the source is superb and looks great up-converted. But many SD films aren't mastered correctly and look awful on HDTV. And, no, it isn't just a matter of bit rate.

As far as up-converting goes, most people will let the HDTV do the up-scaling for them. You and I, who know how much better HDM looks, will look at their display and walk away in disgust; they will look at it and be quite pleased. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.


By neilrieck on 1/30/2008 10:01:33 PM , Rating: 2
I've got a Toshiba A30 connected to a 61" JVC (D-ILA) and can tell you that the upscaling feature on all manufactured DVDs I've tested is nothing short of fantastic. (Although you do have to use the on-screen maintenance panel of the A30 to tell it to go to 1080p; it defaults to only 1080i.) Now I need to point out that a ripped-DVD I received from a buddy at work is total crap. I guess it's a case of garbage-in garbage-out. You can't upconvert crap.


By neilrieck on 1/30/2008 10:39:30 PM , Rating: 2
You are correct. Game consoles (on both sides) were only being used to sway the opinions of studio execs. In the end the only thing that should have really mattered to them are media sales and rentals. Now I will admit that studios are biasing media sales and rentals by only publishing their product (entertainment) in one format or the other. That is why I thought it made more sense for them to develop hybrid format discs.


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By MADAOO7 on 1/27/2008 1:13:39 AM , Rating: 3
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But soon after, the pizza stuck to DVD's wore off the honeymoon.
What?


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By Pale Rider on 1/26/2008 4:53:02 AM , Rating: 5
Dropping the prices WILL help.

There are lots of folks who are staying out of this "war" because the prices on both sides are too high.

You start offering HD-DVDs for $20 or less and offer a decent player for $75.00 and I'll go out and buy tomorrow.

As it stands right now, both sides are too high priced and folks are staying out of it until one side lowers their prices considerably. People didn't start buying DVDs in earnest until there were $75.00 players and sub $20.00 movies.


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By DigitalFreak on 1/26/08, Rating: -1
RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By Davelo on 1/26/2008 2:59:04 PM , Rating: 2
If nobody buys Warner's BRDVDs because Joe Sixpack shopping at Walmart refuses to shell out $500 for a Blue ray player, watch how fast the studios jump ship. It's all about the bottom line especially in a down economy.

VHS beat Beta not because it was the better format. VHS was cheaper.


RE: Dropping the prices won't help.
By shabby on 1/26/2008 12:07:17 PM , Rating: 2
The only thing that will help is for one format to die off. How can any sane movie buff buy either format when the movies they love are on both formats?
This is the reason i haven't bothered buying hd players, unless theres a cheap combo player they can both go to hell.


By omnicronx on 1/26/2008 12:50:29 PM , Rating: 3
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How can any sane movie buff buy either format when the movies they love are on both formats?
Do what i did, buy a ps3, then go get a cheap HD-DVD player. I went to BB yesterday and saw 3 openbox models. The A-30 usually sells for 350 here, and it was open box for 140.99 and the A-3 was only 100 ;)

I am having a field day on ebay getting all the HD-DVD titles I can.


By Shining Arcanine on 1/26/2008 6:57:13 PM