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Recent shootings were the cause for removing the links

Electronic Arts, better known as EA, has pulled the links to real weapon sales sites from its "Medal of Honor" Web page. EA's "Medal of Honor" site has traditionally partnered with weapons companies, since the game features these real weapons available for purchase.

The reason behind this is pretty obvious if you've heard about recent shootings in the U.S. The most recent occurred in a Newtown, Connecticut elementary school where 26 children and school staff were killed by gunfire. Before that, a man shot and killed many people in an Aurora, Colorado theater.

Due to these recent tragedies, the National Rifle Association pointed the finger at movies and video games for adding to the culture of violence in the U.S.

"There exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people," said NRA vice president Wayne LaPierre.

"Medal of Honor" was originally published by EA Games in 1999, where much of the series takes place in World War II. The newer versions mainly focus on modern warfare.

Back in 2010, the "Medal of Honor" was banned from the military due to multiplayer Taliban characters featured in the game. Just last month, seven Navy SEALs were charged and punished for releasing confidential information to EA during the making of "Medal of Honor: Warfighter." The seven Navy SEALs consist of two Senior Chief Special Operators and five Chief Special Operators, which all received letters of reprimand and a cut of half their pay for two months.

Sources: BBC News, SeattlePI



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Ridiculous...
By Jeff7181 on 12/27/2012 1:21:23 PM , Rating: 3
Remove the ads because EA is morally opposed to guns, fine. But remove the ads because of the shooting? F*&%king ridiculous.

I can't express how irritating all these reactions are. People are losing their minds and on their way to changing the Constitution because some nut job killed a bunch of people/kids. And the only reason it's happening is because all of the anti-gun zealots saw an opportunity to push their agenda, and the masses will follow because (as demonstrated by the recent election) they lack forethought.




RE: Ridiculous...
By spamreader1 on 12/27/2012 2:36:33 PM , Rating: 1
ditto


RE: Ridiculous...
By bupkus on 12/27/2012 3:38:19 PM , Rating: 2
</sarcasm>

Sentimental twits

</sarcasm>


RE: Ridiculous...
By Armageddonite on 12/28/2012 9:26:40 AM , Rating: 3
You put an end tag at beginning and end...just saying. :p


RE: Ridiculous...
By Boze on 12/27/2012 2:53:59 PM , Rating: 2
The masses will follow because they are afraid and they have no sense of scale.

26 people died that day.

Every 7 seconds someone in United States dies, from something. Car accident, electrical shock, old age, heart disease, aneurysm, etc.

Where is the outrage for them? There is none. Because those deaths are all commonplace. We've become accustomed to them. No one is accustomed to 26 people being shot to death by 1 crazy psychopath.

And therein lies the problem. People fail to understand the concept of outliers. With such an enormous population, people are going to be murdered constantly in this nation. Its not a failing of the Constitution, or of federal, state, city and local laws. Its just good old-fashioned human nature.

Its only been a few hundred thousand years since we became Homo sapiens sapiens. Yet people think we're going to shake off our evolutionary bonds immediately.

Its not forethought that people lack. Its emotional control. Sometimes bad shit happens, and there's no reason for it. The universe gave you a shitty hand.


RE: Ridiculous...
By 91TTZ on 12/27/2012 3:00:22 PM , Rating: 2
I completely agree. People are bad at figuring out probability especially when they learn about stuff on the news.


RE: Ridiculous...
By bupkus on 12/27/2012 3:41:46 PM , Rating: 2
26 irrelevant data points on the curve of a graph. </sarcasm>


RE: Ridiculous...
By kyuuketsuki on 12/27/2012 4:08:04 PM , Rating: 2
Don't be an idiot. It's not about marginalizing a tragedy, it's about pointing out that some idiot going to a school and shooting people doesn't necessarily point to some massive failure of the government or prove that guns are an evil that must be abolished.

26 people dead is sad, no question. We should know what happened and what can be done to prevent a similar tragedy in the future (although the answer may be that we can't do anything, short of living in a police state, but that just makes for different tragedies). It doens't mean there's some epidemic of gun violence or violence at schools that we must immediately use as an excuse to throw the constitution out the window.


RE: Ridiculous...
By bupkus on 12/27/2012 5:46:41 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
although the answer may be that we can't do anything, short of living in a police state
Yes, indeed, you're hand guns and rifles will single-handedly stop the roll out of a police state. Never mind the possibility of the entire nation going on strike including the police. Thank god for your little pea shooters. Those swat teams and attack helicopters haven't a chance.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Asetha on 12/28/2012 7:57:26 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed, they don't, considering that there are about 200,000 police on duty at any given time, and 200 million+ guns owned by citizens.


RE: Ridiculous...
By WinstonSmith on 12/28/2012 9:38:43 AM , Rating: 2
"Yes, indeed, you're hand guns and rifles will single-handedly stop the roll out of a police state."

No, what he meant was that short of living in a police state where all private guns are confiscated, there will be no stopping gun violence.


RE: Ridiculous...
By V-Money on 12/28/2012 12:33:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No, what he meant was that short of living in a police state where all private guns are confiscated, there will be no stopping gun violence.


What's even funnier is that even if this unlikely scenario ever were to happen people would just use other form of weapons like bombs or napalm, they are surprisingly easy to make. Then when a maternity ward or nursery gets obliterated by some other psychopath and there is no way to stop it (hard to defend against a bomb) the only silver lining these clowns have is that "well, it wasn't a gun massacre".

More to the point though, owning weapons is guaranteed in the constitution, and whether you like it or not, watching movies or even going to school is not. My point being there are risks in everything that we do in life, if you aren't willing to take them, then don't. As a previous poster mentioned, there are psychopaths and there will be unfortunate events like this, but banning guns isn't the solution. If we go that route we might as well ban cars that go over 75MPH, meals that are greater than 400-600 calories depending on your size, all fast food and desserts, and television/computers/forms of stationary entertainment. All of those cause more deaths than guns, its the only logical solution right.


RE: Ridiculous...
By bupkus on 12/28/2012 3:00:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If we go that route we might as well ban cars that go over 75MPH, meals that are greater than 400-600 calories depending on your size, all fast food and desserts, and television/computers/forms of stationary entertainment. All of those cause more deaths than guns, its the only logical solution right.
Yes, it is indeed a slippery slope.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Webreviews on 12/28/2012 5:24:08 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Yes, it is indeed a slippery slope.


We should ban slippery slopes. Very dangerous those things.


RE: Ridiculous...
By FlyBri on 12/27/2012 4:49:00 PM , Rating: 2
I think it's actually pretty nearsighted to say that some people who want gun reform have no sense of scale. While it's true many people in the U.S. die almost every other second from something, looking just at gun violence and gun homicide statistics, they clearly show that we have a much larger problem with it here in the U.S. compared to other developed nations.

And your comment about there being no outrage for people dying of car accidents, electrical shock, old age, heart disease, aneurysm, etc. is just IGNORANT. Why is there not as much outrage at those compared to what happened in CT? Because what happened in CT was a deliberate act of aggravated violence on other innocent human beings -- big difference there you are completely failing to acknowledge.

And the only thing in your list that you can make any kind of argument for (if you wanted to) is the example is car accidents. But even with that, constant new regulations and advances in car safety have helped reduce fatalities.

And many people aren't failing to understand the concept of outliers -- it's actually you who fails to understand the concept. As I said, look at the statistics -- and not just overall numbers (as you so simply suggested that people are looking at), but how many gun homicides per 100,000, for example. That way, you are looking at things proportionately -- comparing apples to apples. Looking at those statistics, you can see there is a serious issue that needs to be dealt with.

So, while I believe there are arguments that can be made on both sides of this issue, your argument just falls flat.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Asetha on 12/28/2012 9:04:00 AM , Rating: 2
The statistics are heavily skewed by a concentration of gun murders in several small areas of key cities. 78% of all murders occur in 3% of the counties, all of which have been struggling with drug gang wars. Areas in which gun ownership is the highest (# of guns pp) have the lowest gun murder rates, 75% of which are zero. Gun ownership rates are not correlated to gun murder rates. An easy figure of gun murders/100k are meaningless unless you break that data down.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Just Tom on 12/30/2012 1:00:21 PM , Rating: 1
The highest murder rate in the nation is Louisiana followed by Mississippi followed by New Mexico followed South Carolina followed by Alabama. With the possible exception of New Mexico and drug gangs none of these states are known for rampant gang violence. None have robust gun laws.

There is in fact a positive correlation. From wiki, the data is easy to find if you don't trust wiki,

quote:
States in the highest quartile for gun ownership had homicide rates 114% higher than states in the lowest quartile of gun ownership.[81] Non-gun-related homicide rates were not significantly associated with rates of firearm ownership


There has been no causal link established between gun ownership and homicides. But to say that areas with more guns have lower murder rates is just plain wrong.


RE: Ridiculous...
By WinstonSmith on 12/28/2012 9:37:14 AM , Rating: 3
"While it's true many people in the U.S. die almost every other second from something, looking just at gun violence and gun homicide statistics, they clearly show that we have a much larger problem with it here in the U.S. compared to other developed nations."

Worldwide in 2010, there were a total of five school murder rampages, all in China, all carried out with KNIVES and BATS. A total of 21 children were killed and 85 wounded. School rampages, as tragic as they are, are EXTREMELY rare events and with no ARMED security present, they can be horribly carried out successfully with only knives and bats.

There were 38,364 suicides in the US in 2010. The CDC states that suicide is the leading cause of violent death in the US. There have been 14,612 murders in the US in 2011 of which 9,903 involved firearms, about half of those involving African-American males between the age of 14 and 25.

So, unless you are an African-American male in that age group, you are nearly EIGHT TIMES more likely to intentionally KILL YOURSELF than you are to be killed by someone else using a firearm and the statistical odds that you or anyone else is going to be killed with an AR-15 "assault rifle" are absolutely MINUSCULE.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Rasputin814 on 12/27/2012 10:14:37 PM , Rating: 2
except those every 7 seconds, somebody is dieing of something like a car accident, a terminal sickness. This is preventable. For those who are against strict gun laws, I want to ask you, have you guys left the country before? I almost always feel safer when traveling to a foreign city than in my home city in philadelphia. I'm not afraid that some crazy on the street might pull a gun on me if i say anything that might remotely offend him.


RE: Ridiculous...
By room200 on 12/27/2012 3:25:06 PM , Rating: 3
Really? Anti-gun zealots? Wasn't it the head of the NRA who got on television last week and blamed videogames?


RE: Ridiculous...
By marvdmartian on 12/27/2012 4:30:42 PM , Rating: 2
Just more knee jerk political correctness, is all this is. No worse than the stories of investment groups suddenly deciding to sell off their shares of the company that made the weapon used in the school shooting.

Sadly, it seems to be the direction the entire country has been headed into, for the past few years. Never mind common sense, so long as you're politically correct!


RE: Ridiculous...
By dark matter on 12/27/2012 7:10:17 PM , Rating: 1
You sound like a proper nutjob yourself mate. I'd be happy to see your right to an assault rifle taken away.

If you react like that because a company decides to follow PR advice, so not to attract attention to itself, then God help anyone in your path if you get really pissed at something.

Relax, take a deep breath. Jerk.


RE: Ridiculous...
By MZperX on 1/2/2013 11:56:55 AM , Rating: 2
Project much? Actually, you sound like an unstable person what with being glad about the prospect of people losing their rights? That's pretty sick you know. Would you be glad about us losing our right to free speech, or the right to worship as our conscience dictates, or the right to not be subjected to warrantless search & seizure? Or perhaps you would rejoice about people losing their right to vote? See what your statements above make you sound like? A pretty disturbed individual... The 2nd Amendment is no less important than any of the others. That's why it's in the Bill of Rights and that's why it will stay there. Millions of our countrymen and women fought, bled, and died to protect it for us and future generations. Or are you saying their lives were meaningless?


RE: Ridiculous...
By WinstonSmith on 12/28/2012 9:48:38 AM , Rating: 2
"People are losing their minds and on their way to changing the Constitution because some nut job killed a bunch of people/kids."

They can't lose what they don't have. The educational system doesn't train people properly in the learned skill of critical thinking. That sort of thing comes from familiarity with the sciences, subjects far too many avoid because they're "too difficult."

Add to that a sensationalist, profit-driven media that, like vultures with an agenda, milk everything and only encourage copy-cat events, and you end up with thoughtless, knee-jerk reactions from herds and "fixes" that fix nothing.

"Imagine how stupid the average person is. Then realize that half of them are even stupider than that." - George Carlin


RE: Ridiculous...
By Spookster on 12/28/2012 1:59:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
"There exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people," said NRA vice president Wayne LaPierre.


Yeah it's called the NRA. Considering 74% of the NRA funding comes from the firearms industry that sounds about right.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Donkey2008 on 12/29/2012 3:15:04 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
...(as demonstrated by the recent election) they lack forethought.

...(as demonstrated after the last election) the people who voted for the loser are still whining.


Not a smart move
By Beenthere on 12/27/2012 1:25:17 PM , Rating: 2
It was never a smart move to have links to gun stores in a video game but many video game makers aren't exactly rocket scientists nor scrupulous.

That being said I suspect that eventually people will come to understand that violent video games do have a negative effect on people with mental issues. If nothing else it may desensitize them to violence and make it appear in their minds to be an acceptable solution to an issue.

The knee-jerk reaction to guns and the NRA's proper recommendation of armed security in all schools, illustrates how clueless many in the media and the general public are regarding violence and guns. Until legislators and the general public buy a clue about violence, nothing positive will happen. You could outlaw all guns and they'd still be readily available to most anyone who wanted one.




RE: Not a smart move
By kyuuketsuki on 12/27/2012 3:56:44 PM , Rating: 2
So you claim videogames have a negative affect on people with "mental issues", then go on to talk about a "knee-jerk" reaction to guns? So someone with "mental issues" being in possession of a gun is cool, but some fantasy violence isn't? Gimme a break.

I'm not for banning guns or any such nonsense, by the by, but the NRA is full of idiots as demonstrated by the vice-president trying to deflect criticism aimed at his organization toward another convenient scape-goat instead of making a reasoned defense. And the proposal for armed volunteers at schools will go over great... until one of them with an itchy trigger-finger blows some kid's head-off, or has a beef with some students who give him crap and is the one to go on a rampage.


RE: Not a smart move
By Rukkian on 12/27/2012 5:04:24 PM , Rating: 2
Or until you know somebody has to actually pay for all of those armed guards!

As for the banning of assault weapons, I have no problem banning them, as I do not feel there really is a need to have them, but I also do not think that would make any difference in this type of situation. Somebody with 2 semi-auto 9mm handguns with extra clips could do just as much if they wanted.


RE: Not a smart move
By MZperX on 1/2/2013 12:24:45 PM , Rating: 2
Rukkian posted "... I have no problem banning them, as I do not feel there really is a need to have them, ..."

Well, I guess it's very fortunate then that what you "feel" has no significance when it comes to the U.S. Constitution, right? The law is not about "feelings" and this is precisely why we call demands for gun bans a knee-jerk reaction (as opposed to reasoned thoughts). A ban would solve nothing; it would have zero impact on reducing these tragic occurrences. So why ban anything then? Because politicians with ambitions of ever increasing power do not like the idea of an armed people. It's a pesky obstacle to them.


More trouble...
By Beenthere on 12/28/12, Rating: 0
RE: More trouble...
By DukeN on 12/28/2012 10:00:38 AM , Rating: 2
No, dimwit.

Subways and trains weren't designed to kill people.

Perhaps some of the most efficient killing machines (ie semi-automatic rifles, etc) should be regulated in terms of sale, or not be available for "public" consumption.


RE: More trouble...
By Kepler on 12/29/2012 12:09:09 AM , Rating: 2
If the president, senate, congress, etc...all have their security details give up their weapons, I'll start discussing giving up mine.

There is no reason the political elite should be allowed to protect themselves, but not me.


RE: More trouble...
By Donkey2008 on 12/29/2012 3:45:53 AM , Rating: 2
That is an excellent point. Although do you get death threats everyday like most high-profile politicians?


RE: More trouble...
By MZperX on 1/2/2013 12:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
You are calling others dimwits while displaying a lack of intelligence yourself. Nice. First of all the call to ban subway trains was obviously made in jest to illustrate the utter stupidity of banning firearms.

Secondly, you clearly have no idea about the right to keep and bear arms, its history, and the profound practical and philosophical importance it has. So, you have a choice of staying quiet and learning about the subject before attacking others, or continue to spout off and make yourself look like a buffoon...


Unrealistic + extremist = NRA
By Armageddonite on 12/28/2012 9:24:26 AM , Rating: 2
Violence in media is a symptom of a violent society, not an underlying cause. It may contribute to some degree in cases where individuals are already predisposed to violence, but it doesn't have anywhere near as much effect as say...growing up in a gun-crazy hyperconservative community. I can say this, having several relatives who went that path, some of whom now live in their own militant isolationist households in the northwest US. These are people who hardly ever watched TV and never played video games.




By Armageddonite on 12/28/2012 9:31:38 AM , Rating: 2
..and I should probably add, almost all are staunch NRA members and supporters


RE: Unrealistic + extremist = NRA
By MZperX on 1/2/2013 12:33:36 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, because all the NRA does is advocate for crime and violence. Do you remember those NRA pamphlets about various carjacking techniques, and how to hold up banks, and how to walk up to total strangers and smash their face into the concrete, and how to throw molotov cocktails at marching bands... Oh, wait me neither.


(...sigh)
By just4U on 12/27/2012 1:01:15 PM , Rating: 2
I would think that with opponents claiming it's video games and such that are causing violent behavior it would have been a very poor move on EA's part to even have such links (ever..) on their web site.

What were they thinking?




RE: (...sigh)
By integr8d on 12/27/2012 1:25:36 PM , Rating: 3
At one point, EA probably thought it would be cool to do this. Then someone from the PR department had an epiphany, "What happens if a whacko pulls another Sandy Hook and the police find our game in his house? What happens if he left the game on, with the address of the gun store on the tv (we'll assume it's a tv, because any sane person would be playing on PC) and there's a receipt next to his game controller for the gun he just bought there?"

It has nothing to do with corporate responsibility. It has to do with minimizing liability.


...
By Quadrillity on 12/27/2012 2:11:47 PM , Rating: 2
These games are rated for mature adults only for a very good reason. What a bunch of pansies we have turned into...




RE: ...
By dark matter on 12/27/2012 7:12:00 PM , Rating: 2
Or what a bunch of moaning, complaining pussies.


How dare they!
By DukeN on 12/27/2012 4:43:06 PM , Rating: 2
Fine, so more people will die from guns this year than car crashes.

How dare these capitalists make a politically correct move to save face!?!

You can only get to my gun-store links over my dead body! (or through the mouse in my cold-dead-hands!"

[\sarcasm]




Where Ma Peeps!?
By Stuka on 12/28/2012 2:36:44 PM , Rating: 2
Where have all the moderate people gone? Every organization is rife with egomaniacs which believe their cause is the holiest.

I have a dream where people realize that everything is just a single piece in a puzzle. You can be green, an animal lover, a laissez-faire capitalist, carry a gun, be pro-choice, and god-fearing all at the same time. Nothing is inherently exclusive of the others.

The fact Peppy l'Peu here feels the need to scapegoat entertainment is beyond me. The NRA needs to stop making statements. Stick to the old tenets of constitutionality and right to self-preservation, and then stop talking.




dickhead
By Nik00117 on 12/29/2012 9:58:41 PM , Rating: 2
Hey dickhead of a writer Medal of Honor was NOT banned from the Military. Medal of Honor was banned by AAFES which is the company which runes the on post stores FOR the military. If your military you can OWN medal of honor you just can't buy it from AAFES.

It's the same thing as Wal-mart banning Eminem CDs.




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